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How do you connect with any BATs?

Forum PM
18
15.25%
Hunting BATs who are lurking in #mod
31
26.27%
in-game PM
40
33.90%
Others
29
24.58%
Total votes: 118
Topic Starter
minyeob
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Atmey
I tried in game chat #mod (no pm)
nobody gave a damn.
Xgor

Atmey wrote:

I tried in game chat #mod (no pm)
.....I have gotten some BAT mods that way but it's very uncommon....
fartownik
I usually send in-game message (but first I'm looking at BAT's signature, if there's any warning to not PM, I'm not doing this), if possible I post in queue topic.
Ekaru
I PM a BAT occasionally, though it's usually to talk about something else and rarely a mod request, unless they told me to PM them.

I also use #mod, though that really only works when a BAT is free, Hito is doing Trivia modding, or I know a BAT really well.

In-game PM is used a bit, mostly on one BAT though, because we've known each other for a year or so.

I used to use queues, but stopped, since it's too much effort.

Oh and I also talk to them in #osu. The amount of mod requests varied. A year ago, before #mod, it was more frequent and I was more successful due to less mappers, no #mod, patience, and pure dumb luck. Now I'm just lazy, but fixing that.
kino77
Since BATs' queue always been locked
I send pm to them after my map was ready(that enough star and more than 2 guys said "nothing found" in my map thread)
But its not really working...
So I catch them in game,if they were not AFK,I will pm them in game.
Seems like I prefer pm,I don't know why:D
GladiOol
forum pm

Though 50% change they won't respond or just don't mod and ignore you at all.
Pasonia
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Lesjuh
I usually ask (spam) them in chat until they actually promise me to mod it <3
Teara
I prefer PM'ing ingame. 7/7 times my forum PM's never got a reply and got ignored.

I can only name a few bats that aren't jerks and actually respond, even to say "No, sorry they are too busy at the moment, maybe some other time."

I can also name a few bats out of those that tell you "Sure, they will take a look". But never do ^^

and some that actually do.
Mogsy
I usually monitor chat to see who's active and try to PM them at a time when it's not annoying for me to do so. I check their sigs first, though, to see if there are any special conditions I should meet before asking them or to see if they're active at all.
anonymous_old
I know several BAT members so it's pretty easy to get mods from them.

Just be friendly with people and you'll end up being friendly with a BAT member.

inb4 strager isn't friendly
Teara

strager wrote:

I know several BAT members so it's pretty easy to get mods from them.

Just be friendly with people and you'll end up being friendly with a BAT member.

inb4 strager isn't friendly

[random]Lies, you're a cute cuddly teddy bear~[/random]

but strager just gave a good tip.. being friendly normally works... normally.
mm201
If you build it...
GladiOol
So the moral will be, kissing ass with BAT's will get your map modded? lol nothxbai
bmin11
Monitor Chat's. I wait until some good BATs to mod, like Starrod (don't see him often), JJJ, Larto, etc...
anonymous_old

Gladi wrote:

So the moral will be, kissing ass with BAT's will get your map modded? lol nothxbai
No.

I am friends with people.

We have fun together.

Right, Larto?
foulcoon
I usually just call in favors.

Oh wait I haven't had a map in pending for ages.
awp

Gladi wrote:

So the moral will be, kissing ass with BAT's will get your map modded?
While it has been stated, and eventually proven, that the above statement is a fallacy, I wonder...

will being a douche bag make it harder for your map to get modded? That, I don't know.
lukewarmholiday
I dunno awp my maps usually get modded pretty quickly when I start requesting.
DJPop
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Kytoxid
Mostly via PM. Sorry for all the BATs I've bothered, and thanks to all the BATs that have been awesome. :P
Mogsy

Gladi wrote:

So the moral will be, kissing ass with BAT's will get your map modded? lol nothxbai
Being nice != kissing ass
arien666
I feel sorry to use PM.
So I use #mod :3...

inb4, Taiko-only maps seems IMPOSSIBLE TO BE RANKED
Topic Starter
minyeob
Accroding to poll's result, we proved that Forum-PM is the worst method cause they ignore that >_>

And
Why all you guys are ignoring about this minor question
<And how often do you send mod requests to BATs?>
Is it hard to answer?

Anyways it might be fun if you guys tell what BAT say when you give mod requests to them.
(Cause I haven't sent any mod request to BATs via in-game PM)
Mashley
I bug my friends in #osu or vent until they mod my maps :p
Mystearica

Gladi wrote:

So the moral will be, kissing ass with BAT's will get your map modded? lol nothxbai
right on bro

thank god someone out here isn't fucking retarded, gj Gladi.

if this shit had a reputation feature i'd give you mad props for that right there, fucking truth.
Ephemeral
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Azure_Kite
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Mogsy
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Jarby
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MegaManEXE
People who aren't friends with BATS: takes 2 months to get map ranked even when it has 50+ priority for 3 weeks

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9107

People who are friends with BATs/are BATs themselves: takes less than a week to get map ranked as soon as it has 8 priority

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10125

Or even less than 8

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10286

(No offense intended to the maps I chose, just randomly picked examples to illustrate a point)
Vanmonky
No matter by what I contact the BATs, they will always ignoring me. Believe me, the only PM I got from BAT is only Loginer's. I sent 10 PM to 10 BAT, but only 1 PM form 1 BAT that response to me.

@ MegaManEXE

I agree!!!!! A new noobish mapper like me who don't have any friend in osu! can take 1 year to get the map ranked.
eee
First, once I bump into a signature that is taking requests, I do what it says, may it be forum pm or in game.
If not, I just ask in game when I'm very desperate.
Also, this "friendship with BATs" should stop. I understand not looking at the maps of annoying players, but that doesn't mean all BATs are the nicest people in the game.
Wojjan
I just get a lot of SP, and someone always comes around to check in the end.
anonymous_old

MegaManEXE wrote:

People who aren't friends with BATS: takes 2 months to get map ranked even when it has 50+ priority for 3 weeks

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9107
A map needs generally follow the guidelines, meet the ranking standards, and be noticed and checked out by at least two BAT members to become ranked. (It also needs 8 SP and other minor things like that.) I think your thought (BAT looking at map == map gets ranked) is incorrect.

MegaManEXE wrote:

People who are friends with BATs/are BATs themselves: takes less than a week to get map ranked as soon as it has 8 priority

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10125
Because the map generally follow the guidelines, meets the ranking standards, and was noticed and checked out by at least two BAT members pretty quickly due to connections.

MegaManEXE wrote:

Or even less than 8

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10286
JJJ made a mistake. Under the current rules (as far as I know) 8 SP is required before a bubble.

minyeob wrote:

Accroding to poll's result, we proved that Forum-PM is the worst method cause they ignore that >_>
I don't see how the poll proves anything...

minyeob wrote:

And
Why all you guys are ignoring about this minor question
<And how often do you send mod requests to BATs?>
Is it hard to answer?

Anyways it might be fun if you guys tell what BAT say when you give mod requests to them.
(Cause I haven't sent any mod request to BATs via in-game PM)
As often as I need. That is, when I feel my map is bubble-worthy or needs some special attention (e.g. check if something is rankable because of modder disputes).
MegaManEXE

strager wrote:

MegaManEXE wrote:

People who aren't friends with BATS: takes 2 months to get map ranked even when it has 50+ priority for 3 weeks

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/9107
A map needs generally follow the guidelines, meet the ranking standards, and be noticed and checked out by at least two BAT members to become ranked. (It also needs 8 SP and other minor things like that.) I think your thought (BAT looking at map == map gets ranked) is incorrect.

MegaManEXE wrote:

People who are friends with BATs/are BATs themselves: takes less than a week to get map ranked as soon as it has 8 priority

http://osu.ppy.sh/s/10125
Because the map generally follow the guidelines, meets the ranking standards, and was noticed and checked out by at least two BAT members pretty quickly due to connections.
Not my point.

Aren't BATs supposed to look at stuff by priority?

Siriru's map had 50+ priority and was on the front page (or second page when there were too many bubbles) for 3 weeks and not a single BAT gave it any attention, while stuff with far less priority was bubbled and ranked. It's not like JJJ made a wall of mods in his post, and it had already undergone a decent amount of modding, so there clearly couldn't have been THAT much wrong with the map preventing it from being ranked.

I don't have a problem with BATs giving attention to their friends' maps/other BATs' maps if they have fairly low SP, I think if anyone was a BAT they'd help out their friends a bit too. But when something has 50 SP for 3 straight weeks and not a single BAT looks at it just because the beatmap creator has no BAT connections, there is something wrong here.
anonymous_old

MegaManEXE wrote:

Not my point.

Aren't BATs supposed to look at stuff by priority?
No.
MegaManEXE
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anonymous_old
You're confusing an aim with a duty.
Ephemeral

strager wrote:

MegaManEXE wrote:

Not my point.

Aren't BATs supposed to look at stuff by priority?
No.
Priority is pretty meaningless then.

I have no problem with the 'never ask bat, never get ranked' approach the system currently takes as if maps ever begin to get ranked with minimal communication between the BAT and the mapper, then problems will only arise later on as a consequence.

It makes perfect sense to me that you have to talk to the BATs and get known as active members of the immediate community if you want to contribute. People complaining about that need to stop being so antisocial and start hanging out more. Remember that you map for the community, not for yourself.
anonymous_old

Ephemeral wrote:

Priority is pretty meaningless then.
Not really.

All I'm saying is that priority does not NEED to be a factor for a BAT when they decide to mod a map (excepting the 8 SP rule).

Ephemeral wrote:

Remember that you map for the community, not for yourself.
More like, if you want a map ranked, it needs to be made for the community, not yourself.

You can chose to map for your personal reasons.
Ephemeral

strager wrote:

Ephemeral wrote:

Priority is pretty meaningless then.
Not really.

All I'm saying is that priority does not NEED to be a factor for a BAT when they decide to mod a map (excepting the 8 SP rule).

Ephemeral wrote:

Remember that you map for the community, not for yourself.
More like, if you want a map ranked, it needs to be made for the community, not yourself.

You can chose to map for your personal reasons.
You sure are pedantic.
Jarby
Spinsmith was part of a beatmapping I made in the first place, hence September getting bubbled so quickly. Secondly, I simply liked the song Tigerlily and wanted to see the beatmap of it, priority be damned, but I would have waited longer to mod it if it weren't so well-made. It's not as if I was modding these maps because they were requested to be or because of the mappers that created them.
K2J
Just hang around in #mod, usually, using in-game PMs to remind/pester if they've expressed interest before. Forum PMs are usually last resort, since I know those are a lot less personal.

In short, I'm usually just lucky.

EDIT:

strager wrote:

More like, if you want a map ranked, it needs to be made for the community, not yourself.

You can chose to map for your personal reasons.
Ranking is a process to get a map accepted by the community anyway, so of course you're going to have to sell your map to them. You might think that techno-electric airship-hoppin' music is serious jizz, but others might not.
peppy
I won't speak for everyone, but for what it's worth:


The current PM system really annoys me, but I don't have the time to improve on it at the moment, either.
RemmyX25
I thought you were going to forward your inbox for me to deal with >__>
Hanyuu
i tried to talk with a BAT member in the in game chat once. i asked him if he could look for my map but i got no answer and i thought he would remember the beatmap and look for it later. but he did not look for the beatmap and i was thinking i was only annoying when i ask again to look for my map. and then maybe he would never look at it or refuse to look because i ask again. so i dont contact the BAT for my beatmaps anymore.
I just wait and let them die or maybe i am lucky again and one of my map get ranking and i dont even notice it :)

but i have voted for "in game chat" because it is the way i would connect with a BAT member
awp
everybody knows the best way to connect with a BAT is a good right hook to the jaw
Pasonia
Dude that's connecting a bloody punch, not networking -.-
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