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Not adding "ZUN" in remixed song's tags.

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Winek
888 posts
Joined September 2013
Topic Starter
Winek
Dunno if i must add some rules change or whatsoever.

Let me explain myself.

What is the problem?

Each time when reasearching ZUN songs, i keep getting invaded with remixes. In my general opinion, there is far enough remixes, and I really prefer originals. The beauty of instrumental *-* So let me give you a screen:
SPOILER
I know I already downloaded a few ZUN's songs, so some might not appear.

Why do you want this?

I prefer originals songs. I'm not saying every remixed song should have no relation whatesoever with Touhou ; Just not adding ZUN inside it. Leaving the source as Touhou is fine, as well as the stage/boss/orignal music in the tags. But not "ZUN". ZUN is the original composer, who made the original songs. Those remixed songs, i do belive that they are not originals. They should be seperated in two, originals and remixed. This is not like parodised song, who are completely changed, where you can add the original artist in the tags. Most Nightcores mixes and Speed up versions offer the title like this:
Original Composer - Song Name (Remix)
But for MOST and grand part of touhou maps you have something like
Remixer - Song Name
This is clearly why i want "ZUN" not to be in remixed songs anymore.

How would it works?

Simple. Remove "ZUN" from tags. Nothing more. Like i stated upper ^ The source "Touhou" and tags "Boss name/Stage/Original Music" can stay in.

What would it changes

Like stated in the screenshot, It would makes research easier. I'm getting tired that ZUN get always mixed up with senya and other remixer. I never said I dislike remixes, before people complain about that. I'm not asking to remove them.

Thanks for taking time reading this before spouting nonsense. Also, I know my grammar isn't the best. But please don't start correcting all of this subject.

I think I provided enough information. Now, I'd like feedbacks on this suggestion.
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Nwolf
2,607 posts
Joined September 2012
Nwolf
just sort by artist : P
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,420 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan
Weird logic. Just avoid all songs which has not ZUN as artist, problem solved.
Winek
888 posts
Joined September 2013
Topic Starter
Winek

Stefan wrote:

Weird logic. Just avoid all songs which has not ZUN as artist, problem solved.
I don't see where it's weird. REDALiCE, DARK PHOENiX, senya and other remixers are not mixed in together. Tho, ZUN, even if he is the original composer deserves to be isolated from all the remixes. If i reasearch "ZUN" it's because i want original songs. If I research "Touhou" it's because I want them mixed together. I think the source "Touhou" is enough for it.
Rei Hakurei
1,983 posts
Joined February 2011
Rei Hakurei
yes. to prevent confusion. (agrees)
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Zare
1,512 posts
Joined March 2012
Zare
ZUN is the original composer of the Touhou songs. All remixes and reinterpretations are based on his work, so it just makes sense to add him.
Disagreeing with OP.
Jenny
2,200 posts
Joined November 2010
Jenny
Let's hypothize a little: If we now got a band founded (and their songs mapped in osu!) that call themselves "Powermetal", should all DragonForce maps be disallowed from carrying their genre in the tags because it'd "confuse" people?
As mentioned before, just look at the artist instead of making it hard for people to find said remixed songs by entering the original artist - tags are supposed to consist of things related to the song and the original creator obviously is one of these.

also, applying a bit logic usually helps


But yeah, if you're "confused", just sort by artist, really.
Stefan
Global Moderator
10,420 posts
Joined January 2011
Stefan

Winek wrote:

I don't see where it's weird. REDALiCE, DARK PHOENiX, senya and other remixers are not mixed in together. Tho, ZUN, even if he is the original composer deserves to be isolated from all the remixes.
by that logic EVERY Remix is affected by that. And we have to do this with every Remix, Mash-Up, Cover, v2 Songs, etc.

Winek wrote:

Stefan wrote:

If i reasearch "ZUN" it's because i want original songs.

Stefan wrote:

Just avoid all songs which has not ZUN as artist
I am not sure what's so unclear by that post. Every Track which appears in the Game series is an original by ZUN. The only case where ZUN won't stand would be at Jun'ya Ota, an alias by him. If you want originals, avoid songs by IOSYS, senya, Demetori, DARK PHOENiX and so going on. That's not really hard.

Jenny wrote:

If we now got a band founded (and their songs mapped in osu!) that call themselves "Powermetal", should all DragonForce maps be disallowed from carrying their genre in the tags because it'd "confuse" people?
Same goes to Genres, Sources and whatever else. People should be able to differ Originals from Remixes by obvious reasons.
Winek
888 posts
Joined September 2013
Topic Starter
Winek
Well, since most of you are on the "no" side, I guess it's a "no". Give up.
TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
8,431 posts
Joined March 2010
TheVileOne
We don't have rules about what people can use as tags. As long as it is in some way relevant to the subject matter it is fair game. A remix by ZUN is certainly related to ZUN, and is thus necessary to have a tag. If this were not the case, then people who want to find ZUN remixes would not be able to by searching ZUN.
Loctav
Popcorn Fairy
4,496 posts
Joined February 2009
Loctav

Zare wrote:

ZUN is the original composer of the Touhou songs. All remixes and reinterpretations are based on his work, so it just makes sense to add him.
Disagreeing with OP.
Fully agreeing with Zarerion. /thread
CXu
osu! Alumni
3,558 posts
Joined March 2009
CXu
A feature request for search only artist/source/tags or whatever would probably make more sense.
Ephemeral
Inland Empire
3,946 posts
Joined April 2009
Ephemeral

CXu wrote:

A feature request for search only artist/source/tags or whatever would probably make more sense.
Marking this as denied accordingly. There's no need to add an RC amendment for this.
Winek
888 posts
Joined September 2013
Topic Starter
Winek

Ephemeral wrote:

CXu wrote:

A feature request for search only artist/source/tags or whatever would probably make more sense.
Marking this as denied accordingly. There's no need to add an RC amendment for this.
that was sure late
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