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Ph0X
1,043 posts
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Ph0X

strager wrote:

Anyone who believes Firefox is a good browser doesn't know anything.
Instead of bashing on FF, pull out some actual arguments.

BagnoGamer wrote:

+2
-2 for you. WMP is shit. Even more bloated and slow than Winamp.

nardi11011 wrote:

While slightly off-topic, I think this would be a good place to ask something I've always wondered: Why do people seem to like Winamp so much? The interface and features aren't anything special and to me it gives off that "bloated commercial app" kind of vibe. I think I'd even rather use Windows Media Player (seriously).
Well personally, the Winamp I used was nothing like this. Old versions were quite dece and very straigh forward.
Now I'm more into foobar2k because it's way more customizable, but I do admit that it's quite much more work to get it really like I want it to be. I would never recommand it to an average user.
bagnz0r
bagnz0r

Ph0X wrote:

BagnoGamer wrote:

+2
-2 for you. WMP is shit. Even more bloated and slow than Winamp.
Sorry but you didn't understood me. +2 to his post for this part:

nardi11011 wrote:

While slightly off-topic, I think this would be a good place to ask something I've always wondered: Why do people seem to like Winamp so much? The interface and features aren't anything special and to me it gives off that "bloated commercial app" kind of vibe.
I'd never use WMP/Winamp, I'd rather die.
The_Priest_In_Yellow
319 posts
Joined September 2008
The_Priest_In_Yellow
From "top must have programs" to software zealotry. Well done, could've never guessed (!)
nooodl_old
73 posts
Joined August 2008
nooodl_old
@Lybydose:

Ph0X wrote:

Preferably not games (WoW, osu!, etc).
Also, starting topics like this is asking for "omg my program is better than yours, photoshop sucks balls hahahaha". BagnoGamer's fault though (yes, you)
bagnz0r
bagnz0r
@noodl:
No, I just continued what others started.

Well, I'm going to re-post my list. (yes)
- Google Chrome (Amazing web browser, faster and lighter than Firefox)
- Thunderbird (Mail client)
- Pidgin (IM)
- Songbird (Audio player)
- GIMP (Everyone knows)
- 7-Zip (Archiver, better than WinRAR. And yet, it's free.)
- Media Player Classic (...)
anonymous_old
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nooodl wrote:

@Lybydose:

Ph0X wrote:

Preferably not games (WoW, osu!, etc).
preferably (adv.) more readily or willingly; in preference; by choice; in a preferable manner
lukewarmholiday
2,148 posts
Joined June 2008
lukewarmholiday
Firefox is a semi memory hog for people whose computer is still in the stone age.(me)

It is also prone to memory leaks.

Still more tolerable than IE.
Ph0X
1,043 posts
Joined March 2009
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Ph0X

nooodl wrote:

@Lybydose:
Also, starting topics like this is asking for "omg my program is better than yours, photoshop sucks balls hahahaha". BagnoGamer's fault though (yes, you)
Not really :\
My main goal was to find more useful apps that could actually be nice to have, which is why I was trying to avoid browsers or obvious programs everyone have.

lukewarmholiday wrote:

Firefox is a semi memory hog for people whose computer is still in the stone age.(me)
It is also prone to memory leaks.
Still more tolerable than IE.
Meh firefox without addons runs pretty low, but I guess if you want even lower, you'd have to go with Chrome, which runs really fast and smooth.
anonymous_old
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Ph0X wrote:

I guess if you want even lower, you'd have to go with Chrome, which runs really fast and smooth.
My task manager says otherwise.

Chrome has a single tab open (Wave). Opera has ... 28 tabs open right now (I cleaned recently), many with Flash shit and shit.

Ph0X
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bagnz0r
bagnz0r




Still much less memory usage than Firefox. As far as I remember, Opera had some problems with CSS3 lately...
Atmey
415 posts
Joined October 2008
Atmey
I would use chrome over FF, but there few add-ons I got used to, chrome have adblock now, I just need autopager.

I use jetAudio, mainly because of the minimalistic full screen hud and the toolbar mode. WMP classic looks awful and the new WMP controls suck, no space bar pause/play, right/left rewind forward. I used to use the core media player but it is not supported/updated anymore, I think the picture looks better in it and the new WMP. winamp does not support all formats (mkv/ogm). VLC is ugly and delays when pause/play, rewinding and forwarding also breaks the picture. I love Totem for linux, too bad there is no windows equivalent.
Ph0X
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Ph0X

Atmey wrote:

I would use chrome over FF, but there few add-ons I got used to, chrome have adblock now, I just need autopager.

I use jetAudio, mainly because of the minimalistic full screen hud and the toolbar mode. WMP classic looks awful and the new WMP controls suck, no space bar pause/play, right/left rewind forward. I used to use the core media player but it is not supported/updated anymore, I think the picture looks better in it and the new WMP. winamp does not support all formats (mkv/ogm). VLC is ugly and delays when pause/play, rewinding and forwarding also breaks the picture. I love Totem for linux, too bad there is no windows equivalent.
What about foobar2k?
Default looks pretty... minimal to me, not very slick but :P
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6263 ... 030931.png

If not, there are very minimal skins around
http://lassekongo83.deviantart.com/art/FooBear-65777342
http://dawxxx666.deviantart.com/art/foo ... 3-58156028
http://lassekongo83.deviantart.com/art/ ... 3-64701825

Also, I feel you about the FF thing :(
Atmey
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bagnz0r
bagnz0r

Ph0X wrote:

Atmey wrote:

I would use chrome over FF, but there few add-ons I got used to, chrome have adblock now, I just need autopager.

I use jetAudio, mainly because of the minimalistic full screen hud and the toolbar mode. WMP classic looks awful and the new WMP controls suck, no space bar pause/play, right/left rewind forward. I used to use the core media player but it is not supported/updated anymore, I think the picture looks better in it and the new WMP. winamp does not support all formats (mkv/ogm). VLC is ugly and delays when pause/play, rewinding and forwarding also breaks the picture. I love Totem for linux, too bad there is no windows equivalent.
What about foobar2k?
Default looks pretty... minimal to me, not very slick but :P
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6263 ... 030931.png

If not, there are very minimal skins around
http://lassekongo83.deviantart.com/art/FooBear-65777342
http://dawxxx666.deviantart.com/art/foo ... 3-58156028
http://lassekongo83.deviantart.com/art/ ... 3-64701825

Also, I feel you about the FF thing :(
I'd use foobar2k if equalizer wouldn't rape my CPU that much and if it'd support Last.fm radio...
Neo@lex
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Atmey wrote:

I don't know why, but I always was under the impression that foobar was for audio files, if it can play my anime/tv series episodes I would use it. gonna try it again today.
Foobar and Winamp are for music.
VLC and MPC are for videos.
For anime, the best choice is MPC with CCCP and CoreAVC. It'll play pretty much anything without much system strain.
Ph0X
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Ph0X
Yes, MPC would be best for animes.
And yes, winamp and foobar are for music, even though winamp plays videos too, but personally I think it does a shitty job at it. Not sure how the equalise rapes your CPU, I don't really notice it with my quadcores.

Also, I just remember another program that I use everything and that is extremly useful
QuickShot from imageshack tools.
It takes, saves and uploads a screenshot. Gives you the link in your clipboards. Extremly fast and easy way to show people stuff.

[big screenshot warning for people paying for bandwidth]
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/467/ ... 143510.png
awp
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Ph0X
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1. My method takes zero clicks, i take screenshot, 5second later, paste link
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3995 ... 145333.png

2. It takes one click right now, not sure what you are talking about.
Go try it, you choose file(s) and press upload and there you have your DIRECT link in a BIG yellow bar.
You probably havn't used it in a long time, it has been getting quite much better.

3. I beleive you are talking about other sites, but imageshack does not alter the image.

Also, please provide better solutions. And personally, no offence to peppy, but I beleive up.ppy.sh wouldnt be considered as an alternative for many reasons. Might be a cool thing to maybe use in this forum by this community, but I wouldn't use it as my image hosting site. Rigth now in my imageshack profile, I have around 4000 images, which I doubt peppy would let me host (forever).

I'm still open to any other solution.
Well actually, exept for this program that is BUILT to work with imageshack, I usually use imgur for most my nonrelated hosting since the link is very short and simple.
http://imgur.com/Ztm7a.jpg
anonymous_old
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On the whole browser memory usage thing:

I think Vista and 7 include caching and a whole lot of shit like that in the memory usage count for programs. XP doesn't have (as much?) caching so RAM usage is a lot less (but disk I/O is generally slower).
Ph0X
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anonymous_old
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Ph0X wrote:

Well, memory usage is not as much of a deal now. Everyone nowadays has their 4gb of ram.
What defines a good browser to me is pretty much every other speed test they usually do on browsers.

Javascript (sunspider test)
cold/warm load (for people using firefox, run this, it does an AMAZING job http://www.crystalidea.com/speedyfox )
etc

And I do these myself cuz i don't trust benchmarks other sites do ;P
Benchmarks suck. I hate benchmarks.

Video benchmarks, audio benchmarks, browser benchmarks. They all suck.

They focus on the wrong thing. The right thing to focus on is usability. If the speed of a program doesn't get in my way, I don't care. I do care if it does get in my way. This is why I don't use Firefox or IE. Other reasons, like mouse gestures, make me chose Opera over Chrome and Safari.
Ph0X
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Ph0X
Well ofcourse, also hence why I said I do my own benchmarks.
And it's also why I still use firefox when chrome is way faster.

Also, when I went to test the memory for opera up there, already it pissed me off.
I type "deviantart" and instead of finding the correct site, it took me to some random pr0n site. (digital desire or something)
try it yourself you'll see. It's so not userfriendly. Same for any other site. It would always guess the wrong site. I have no idea what it searches, but it's definitly failing.
anonymous_old
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Ph0X wrote:

Well ofcourse, also hence why I said I do my own benchmarks.
And it's also why I still use firefox when chrome is way faster.
I hope you don't really mean "benchmark" here.

Ph0X wrote:

I type "deviantart" and instead of finding the correct site, it took me to some random pr0n site. (digital desire or something)
try it yourself you'll see. It's so not userfriendly. Same for any other site. It would always guess the wrong site. I have no idea what it searches, but it's definitly failing.
I have no idea what you're doing. Are you typing in the URL bar? Typing "deviantart" and hitting Enter brings me to deviantart.com.

Then again, I normally don't do that. I'm one to type "deviantart.com" fully or just Google it if it's something I don't really remember ("is it .net? .com? .org? .sh?").

I really exploit custom searches, though. Typing "php fopen" in the URL bar brings up the appropriate PHP documentation page. "tpb" searches A Certain Site. "msdn" for MSDN. "qt" for Qt docs.

Oh, and Speed Dial. <3
Atmey
415 posts
Joined October 2008
Atmey

Ph0X wrote:

1. My method takes zero clicks, i take screenshot, 5second later, paste link
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3995 ... 145333.png
I think you will like this add-on
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4072

And I am intrested how you can paste the link in 5 seconds, it takes me at least a minute to fire up photoshop.
Ph0X
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Ph0X
Meh I have no space problem. There's alot of bookmarks that I don't even use much anymore and that could be removed.
Also, if you notice, that search bar can still lose alot of width.

The image upload tool is here:
http://reg.imageshack.us/content.php?page=quickshot
Preferably, used with a imageshack account.

Yea I usually used to go with pain because ps was too painful to open. If not, irfanview did it too.

EDIT: Speed dial sucks (bookmarkbar<3), chrome has it too, and firefox has shitload of addons to do it too.
Mystearica
Mystearica
My essentials:

blissfulyoshi
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4,755 posts
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blissfulyoshi
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Beuchi
osu! Alumni
2,288 posts
Joined February 2009
Beuchi

Mystearica wrote:

Is that Adobe CS4 Suite? I hate you T^T
Pokebis
2,047 posts
Joined April 2008
Pokebis

Mystearica wrote:

My essentials:

[Image]
Wow, I wish I could have amazing programs like xvidcore.dll, x264-encode.bat, and most of all; Logitech Mouse and Keyboard Settings.
Mystearica
Mystearica

Pokebis wrote:

Mystearica wrote:

My essentials:

[Image]
Wow, I wish I could have amazing programs like xvidcore.dll, x264-encode.bat, and most of all; Logitech Mouse and Keyboard Settings.
Wow, I wish I could have such an amazing IQ as yours, being almost borderline 0.

Not really.

Fuckoff fail troll.

If you don't know shit about what you're seeing, shut the fuck up and learn or shove it up your ass, fucking retard. You think your trolling is worth people's time? No. Go fuck yourself.
anonymous_old
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Neo@lex
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Neo@lex
I lol'd.
awp
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Larto
4,128 posts
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Larto

awp wrote:

If I continue to see this sort of nonsense from you I will bring down the axe.
DO IT
Ph0X
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Joined March 2009
Topic Starter
Ph0X

awp wrote:

If I continue to see this sort of nonsense from you I will bring down the hammer.
fixt

awp
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awp
you used the wrong hammer

lolginer has the actual banhammer; it comes with !kill and !kick faces.
Ph0X
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Ph0X
Yea, there's I'm still a lvl6 Spinner. I don't have epicgear yet.
I need lots more levels before i can get that hammer :(
Hanyuu
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Hanyuu
osu :D
MSN
firefox
fraps
winrar
gimp
µtorrent
media player classic
winmap
Azure_Kite
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3,217 posts
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Azure_Kite
top must have programs...

Telstra Turbo Connection Manager - need it for internet access
Firefox - need it for internet browsing
osu! - need it for... uh... All my rhythm gaming needs
CCCP - multimedia viewing/decoding via ffdshow
GIMP 2 - need it for Image editing
Adobe Master Collection CS3 - need it for everything else
SUPER(c) - need it for video encoding/conversion
UnrealEd - for all my Unreal Tournament modding needs
tlp.exe - need it for ROM Sprite editing when I get REALLY bored
WinRAR - need it to extract all mah zipp'd and RAR'd files
Nekogoroshi
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Nekogoroshi
Chrome
Winamp
Xfire
Photoshop
Game Maker

and notepad, the best utility that comes with windows no doubt.
Ph0X
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Ph0X

Nekogoroshi wrote:

and notepad, the best utility that comes with windows no doubt.
lol ew?
more like worst.
i'd recommand notepad++ even though you aren't a coder.
Tab support and speed alone would be enough to switch over.

EDIT: well n++ was just an option but there are pretty much any other advanced notepad out there would be better than default notepad
anonymous_old
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Ph0X wrote:

Nekogoroshi wrote:

and notepad, the best utility that comes with windows no doubt.
lol ew?
more like worst.
i'd recommand notepad++ even though you aren't a coder.
Tab support and speed alone would be enough to switch over.

EDIT: well n++ was just an option but there are pretty much any other advanced notepad out there would be better than default notepad
So you're saying notepad.exe doesn't have tab support?

And Notepad++ is faster than notepad.exe?
Ph0X
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anonymous_old
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Ph0X wrote:

Yes and yes?
Glad to see you can read :)
Glad to see you're still retarded. =]
IppE
IppE
Opera
Winamp
Photoshop
3D Studio Max
µTorrent
CCCP
PS3 Media Server

Thats pretty much it.

See any connection between last 3? :3
anonymous_old
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IppE602 wrote:

Opera
Winamp
Photoshop
3D Studio Max
µTorrent
CCCP
PS3 Media Server

Thats pretty much it.

See any connection between last 3? :3
I was liking that list until I read "Winamp".
awp
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awp

IppE602 wrote:

Opera
Winamp
Photoshop
3D Studio Max
µTorrent
CCCP
PS3 Media Server

Thats pretty much it.

See any connection between last 3? :3
Nope. For one, if "PS3 Media Server" is an application, it's unnecessary; WMP, as gay as it is, handles all this anyway. Second, if you're watching videos on your PS3, you don't need CCCP.
IppE
IppE

awp wrote:

Nope. For one, if "PS3 Media Server" is an application, it's unnecessary; WMP, as gay as it is, handles all this anyway. Second, if you're watching videos on your PS3, you don't need CCCP.
Yeah well, I don't watch all videos on the PS3 (mainly because when I use the router in my room to connect the ps3 to the pc, the pc is behind 2 routers and thus fucking port forwarding for some reason :E)

And PS3 Media Server sure is an application, it's a java app that allows you to stream pretty much all videos to PS3 over lan (so it's kinda like CCCP for PS3).
Especially handy seeing as PS3 doesn't natively support .mkv which is lame.

strager wrote:

I was liking that list until I read "Winamp".
Whats wrong with winamp :?
Mara
4,906 posts
Joined November 2009
Mara
Most of time I'm using Firefox, GIMP, mIRC, (Irssi in Ubuntu) Notepad, Audacity and of course my personal favourite, MS Paint.
qlum
481 posts
Joined October 2008
qlum
firefox
utorrent
vlc
Izarc

the only applications except games I use because I want to
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