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kors k - Insane Techniques [Osu|Taiko]

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Len
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[Beginner]

00:46:558 - ~ 00:49:435 - try this timeline? http://puu.sh/8I3qY.jpg or http://puu.sh/8I3Co.png

01:12:859 (1,2) - change slider shapes http://puu.sh/8I6hZ.jpg


[Standard]

00:37:620 - ~ 00:39:983 - try this timeline? http://puu.sh/8I3S2.jpg


[hyper]

00:21:900 (1) - use the triplet http://puu.sh/8I4iW.jpg


[Another]

?


[Extreme]

00:36:695 (1,2) - change slider shapes cuz stack on 00:37:928 (1,1) - http://puu.sh/8I4TU.jpg

00:38:339 (1) - move x76 y120 for flow http://puu.sh/8I5bq.jpg

00:40:034 - add greenline for volume http://puu.sh/8I5jM.png

00:41:524 (1) - remove nc and 00:41:626 (2) - nc

00:44:811 (1) - remove nc and 00:44:914 (2) - nc


nokds cuz nazi and troll
MMzz
Elite Mapper
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MMzz
Hi, modding the taikos because TKS asked me.~

Oni:
00:41:010 (8) - Move to 00:41:113? This rhythm feels a lot better to play and is more interactive with the melody/glitched vocals.
00:42:448 - Add a don here, then change 00:42:859 (20) - to a don. For the same reasons as above. Additionally you can add a kat at 00:42:757 to complete the stream, but I don't think it is completely necessary.
00:45:633 (40,41,42,43,44,45) - ^ Same thing can be done with these notes.
00:49:846 (66) - Finisher possibly?

Awesome diff! I just felt like this section was a little awkward to play.
Muzukashii is flawless to me. THis is more than ready to be ranked!
TKS
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2014
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TKS
@MMzz
applied all except 00:42:757
thanks for your mod!

(/･ω･)/ https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/263 ... niques.rar
iyasine
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Joined January 2012
iyasine
Tagre

Tagre wrote:

hi :) trying m4m

I'm not too good modder so if you think that something in my suggestions is shitty please, don't apply this to map

[iyasine's Hyper]
nice diff ;)
00:27:962 - i can hear a sound here. place a note above 00:28:065 (4) - head (you followed this sound here 00:29:400 (4) - )　fixed!

nothing else

Short mod but it's too good map for me ;_; Hope it will be helpful.

Natsu

Natsu wrote:

Hi

iyasine's Hyper

  1. 00:22:106 add whistle in the head? it fit a lot with the song, also I feel you're missing some more in similars parts keep it!
  2. 00:25:188 (3,4) - claps fit better the music instead of whistle, the sound in 00:25:188 (3,4) - is pretty different to 00:25:599 where the whistle fit (4) whistle → clap !
  3. 00:26:832 missing finish I guess hmm...drumset( cymbals ) frow
  4. 00:27:859 you're missing a circle here, since the sound at 00:27:859 is really important in the music, also will be consistent with 00:28:681 nice!
  5. 00:28:681 and 00:29:503 others similars beats will fit really nice with whistles IMO keep!
  6. 00:29:400 (4,5) - this spacing is so confused it looks like 1/2 but is 1/4, use a proper spacing for better playability I like this it . keep :?
  7. 00:40:907 (5,6) - same as above, this spacing is not consistent with the one you was using for this kind of patterns ^
  8. 00:44:195 (4,5) - ^, there are others similars that I feel don't play nice for a hard diff ^
  9. 00:44:811 (1,2) - swap NC , for consistency with the music and your comboing ok!
  10. 00:46:969 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - this combo is going really long compared to others, I guess you're missing a NC in 00:48:202 (4) - fixed!
  11. 01:12:654 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - same here, you're missing one in 01:14:709 nice!
  12. 01:21:078 missing NC here too fixed!
  13. 01:23:339 remove NC this one is not even necessary keep!
  14. 01:24:983 (1) - ^ ^
  15. 01:32:791 this spinner should start in 01:32:688 for consistency with the others diff, also sound a lot better IMO fixed!
  16. 02:02:174 missing NC here too, I guess decoration!
GL <3, I'm a cake D:

Hinsvar

Hinsvar wrote:

Hello; modding here!

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>iyasine's Hyper
  1. 00:13:270 (1) - Make the volume here 50% and add a whistle at the tail so the hitsound here will be more audible and fitting to the song? Right now, it's hard to feel the rhythm due to how difficult it is to hear the hitsound. fixed!
  2. 00:46:558 - Add a finish? I think it fits with the instrument here.nice!
  3. 01:00:325 (1) - Remove NC? I can't see why this has to have an NC, making 00:59:709 (1) the only object in its combo.ok!
  4. 01:06:284 - 01:12:448 - Why don't you continue making a rhythm pattern like 00:59:709 - 01:06:078 instead? There's no big change in the song rhythm-wise, so it'll only make people feel awkward while playing due to how the objects aren't really following the stronger instruments here.[/color] :(
  5. 01:22:722 (1,2,1,2) - This rhythm can be confusing to players because they can't see how much repeats are there on the sliders with repeats. Maybe change 01:22:722 (1,2) to two 1/2 sliders instead of 1/4 sliders with a repeat, and change 01:23:339 (1) to only a circle (picture of the new rhythm here)? The rhythm will be easier to follow.Ilike this it...
  6. 01:24:366 (1,2,1,2) - ^ ^
  7. 01:26:421 (5) - Move to (465,201) so the stream will look neater? fixed!
Okay, just that I guess... And I hope that was useful.

Good luck on the way 8-)

EDIT: Forever in our memory, the glorious cake.

Lanturn

Lanturn wrote:

Heya, m4m from your queue. Let's do this <3

[Hyper]
Lemme try modding this without crossing over Hinsvar or Natsu.
  1. 00:19:229 (4) - Two suggestions, either reduce it by 1/2 and add a circle at 00:19:640 - because 00:19:435 - has that big note playing, or make a custom slider with an edge that hits the white tick like this: http://puu.sh/8HFgj.jpg keep it !
  2. 00:20:873 (4) - Just a circle is fine here. No need to create a jump from a 1/4 note, and it honestly plays bad everytime even when I fully expect it.^
  3. 00:21:900 (1) - Why the 1/8? nothing in the song even uses 1/8 here.noise sound frow !
  4. 00:26:832 (1) - x251 y187 (x +1) fixed!
  5. 00:28:065 (4) - ^ fixed!
  6. 00:34:332 (4,5) - You should really just use distance snap on these since you used it on the previous (2,3)
  7. 00:40:907 (5,6) - same thing, just use distance snapping.
  8. 00:44:195 (4,5) - once more. Just go with distance snapping. Especially since this is only supposed to be a hard.
    hmm...all distance x1.7 =ω=
  9. 00:46:558 (1) - This is the one time I thought I'd expect a 3/4 slider and I was pretty surprised after playing it that it wasn't. maybe consider lengthening to to a 3/4 slider? keep it !
  10. 00:50:257 (1,2,3) - x375 y91 nice!
  11. 00:59:709 (1,1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - What is up with these new combos? Why does the very first one only have 1 combo in it? Maybe try to NC every 2 or 4 sliders as they add up correctly at the end.ok!
  12. 01:12:654 (1,3) - swap NCs | It's much better to put them on the dominant note rather than the lead-ins keep...
  13. 01:15:325 (7) - same idea as Natsu, though I recommend it here on (7) instead of at (6). This will balance 4 and 4 sliders, and also this is when you start using different shapes.some fixed!
  14. 01:26:421 (5,6) - make these touch? You can then move these off the edge like: http://puu.sh/8HHbq.jpg some fixed!
  15. 01:30:736 (5) - Try moving this to x374 y205 for better spacing. your current is a bit exaggerated, and this position evens them out at 1.30x hmm...keep!
  16. 01:44:709 (4) - Turn this into a circle to match the pattern at 01:43:065 - you don't include a 1/4 note there so it makes no sense to put one here.^
  17. 01:47:791 (3) - This note. I really really hate it. It just feels so unnatural to play, and I think the song would feel a million times better without it.I like this it...
  18. 01:53:955 (1,2) - Too exaggerated again. Highly recommend you reduce the distance between them. If any 1/4 jump, this one is the worst.^
  19. 01:58:681 (3) - x196 y222 fixed!
  20. 01:58:887 (4) - NC here so the combo isn't so long, and since it ends the unique rhythm.^

  21. 00:19:846 (5) - Try adding a clap here.no...
  22. 00:20:873 (4) - Remove clap? This double doesn't make much sense. If you are going for the double effect. It works much better at 00:19:229 (4) - on the head (make sure you add the clap from the first mod) | This is because it's the fourth measure ^
  23. 00:25:599 (5) - Standard whistle would work much better here. try taking off the custom set for this ^
  24. 01:05:667 (5,7) - try removing the whistles from these, or at least turning the volume down for them. kind of overloaded when you have this many in a row.fixed!
  25. 01:46:969 (5) - Even if you try a lead-in effect here to the next pattern, It still works out better to maintain your current pattern (so swap whistle for clap)keep it !
This diff plays somewhat nice, but there are a lot of forced jumps that I feel are unneccesary, and a lot of the streaming patterns feel too complex for a hard difficulty. To me, I think this diff could be toned down quite a bit, but hey, it works as it is. When comparing it to the next difficulties, I guess this fits fine.

Cool mapset.

Andrea

Andrea wrote:

~General~
  1. Try to use the same colors in every difficulty if possible to have some consistency.
  2. Same goes for the kiai time, but they're both optional things, since you've got guest difficulties.
~iyasine's Hyper~
  1. 00:37:825 (5,6) - This small pattern would be better if stacked together, this small spacing distance could be confusing imo.fixed!
  2. 00:49:229 (8) - Add a new combo here to emphasize the voice effect change in the music.ok!
  3. 01:00:325 (1) - Remove this new combo from here, it's not needed.ok!
  4. 01:14:709 (6) - Add a new combo here otherwise it will be too long, better to split it in 2 parts.fixed!
Good luck everyone~

Fast

Fast wrote:

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[hyper]

00:21:900 (1) - use the triplet http://puu.sh/8I4iW.jpg keep it !

nokds cuz nazi and troll

Thanks modders ! http://puu.sh/8JkGi
captin1
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Topic Starter
captin1
ok my computer restarted and i lost like 90% of the mod response i was working on, so i'm giving up on it, sorry. Thank you so much for your mods though, very appreciated and I'll be checking your maps very soon
fanzhen0019
Elite Mapper: Aspirant
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Joined July 2010
fanzhen0019
HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT
Azer
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Joined December 2012
Azer
ww
Lanturn
osu! Alumni
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Joined March 2012
Lanturn
Windows Updates too stronk
MMzz
Elite Mapper
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Joined June 2009
MMzz
Taikos are good to go!~
captin1
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Joined February 2011
Topic Starter
captin1
thanks!
TKS
Former osu!taiko Champion: 2014
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Joined July 2011
TKS
!?
welcome back MMzz san \o/
Irreversible
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Joined December 2011
Irreversible
[General]

Check aiMOD and make sure there is everything fixed what needs to be fixed.
I think the video is not on point. You can see it here: 01:26:010 (1) - (where the smilies appear, it doesn't go too well with the music)

[Beginner]

00:15:325 (3) - A bit picky here, but I actually prefer http://puu.sh/955br/cbf36b6ce0.jpg for flow reasons.
01:12:859 (1) - The last bit of the slider looks a bit weird. Why not making it either more straight or just a curve?
01:26:832 (3) - Quite strong beats imo, why not making them a clickable action?
01:29:914 (1) - I think CTRL +H on the slider shape would benefit the flow.
01:39:161 (1) - It's really close to the slider before, mind moving it a bit to the left?
Actually, 01:39:161 (7,1,2,3) - I have a suggestion for this, it would bring in a cool pattern http://puu.sh/955vo/a5d2e5b1cb.jpg (01:38:339 (6,7) - would be the same shapes then) Because the current angle is pretty tight and yup, that would soften it a bit up.
02:02:174 (1) - Sure this is correctly snapped?

Neat.

[Normal]

00:52:311 (4) - Not sure if suitable for a normal, maybe just put 1/2?
01:20:257 (1) - That's quite unaudible.. mind making it a bit louder?
01:27:243 (3) - NC ? xD

Hm.. acceptable.

[iyasine's Hyper]

00:25:188 (3) - NC because lyrics emphasis.
01:22:722 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1,2,3) - I'm hoping that you can make this part a bit easier (with longer sliders and stuff) for the reason to keep the spread more balanced. There are quite many 1/4 so far, and I think these kind of rhythms are just too hard yet. I hope you get this!
01:58:065 (1,2,3) - Same here, this is insane level not hard.

Really nice.

[Another]

00:21:078 (4) - NC to indicate the part.
01:27:243 (7) - NC because cool.
01:57:654 (2) - Cool!

I like.

[Azer's Extra]

00:14:811 (6,7) - Probably 99% of the osu community hates to play circle 1/4 jumps, please get rid off them, since I'm really not willing to support them. They play .. "extraordinarily bad". Yeah, I'm not the best player, but I've asked some.
00:19:024 (2) - The spacing would look cleaner at 268 264 - also it would flow better with the next slider. Speaking of the next slider, I think it doesn't really suit this 00:18:613 (1) - due to it's shape. Maybe make just a clean looking blanket curve?
00:20:667 (2) - This sound sounds more like a slider to me, due to it's ongoing noise.
00:21:078 (1,1,1,1) - Maybe curve them a bit? Looks more interesting to me than simple straight 1/4.
00:26:626 (3) - I suggest 40 248 to keep the timeline DS consistent, and also for the flow.
00:26:832 (1) - Blanket would be appreciated here.
00:27:551 (4) - There is a thumbrule which says no 1/4 sliders starting on the blue tick. Most of the time, I'd like to see this applied - so yeah, it goes for this one too. I don't think letting it end on the white tick is too genius, because you simply ignore the downbeat here.
Goes for all 1/4. If you deny it, I want at least a really good reason.
00:40:394 (3) - http://puu.sh/956Q0/d723984fb8.jpg Please use this rhythm for the already mentioned points.
01:17:791 (1,2,3,4) - How about some whistles?
01:32:585 (1) - Start on the white tick, not on the one after, since you actually have no beat on that one.
01:49:332 (2,3) - Yeah.. circle jump
02:01:352 (1,2,3,4) - Go for this pattern if you want more flow in it, maybe make it a bit neater, than the provided screen. http://puu.sh/9578n/09d0e3b493.jpg

Could be done way cleaner, can't really judge about it, since aesthetics are very important to me. Please take care of the rhythm in the first kiai (well, it SOMEHOW works but still, in this diff I'd like to see it different since it's not consistent over the diff), the second kiais rhythm is done good. Also, please get rid off the circle jumps, since you didn't use them consistently anyway..

[HanzeR's Extreme]

<3

00:25:188 (2) - NC
00:32:072 (2,3) - I honestly don't like the flow here, could you think of something else here? http://puu.sh/957nb/0a37c98189.jpg ?
00:28:476 (1,2,3,4) - I'd actually like to see this rhythm, but then again, I think the circle at the end here works really good for this tension break. http://puu.sh/957pF/8806987df6.jpg
00:41:524 (1) - I hope you can just simply stack with slider start of 1.
01:21:078 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 01:22:722 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - I'm a bit unsure about those and you know why.. think about it..
01:25:599 (1,1) - <33
01:27:243 (1,1) - <3333
01:27:448 (1) - blanket? XD
01:28:681 (3) - http://puu.sh/957Cl/de940c23a8.jpg How about this rhythm? I think her voice should be clickable, in order to get the best possible feeling. Screen starts 01:28:270 - .

what the **** was that. Looks really clean and fun tho. If you can play it ! xD


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Azer
World Cup Organiser
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Azer

Irreversible wrote:

[Azer's Extra]

00:14:811 (6,7) - Probably 99% of the osu community hates to play circle 1/4 jumps, please get rid off them, since I'm really not willing to support them. They play .. "extraordinarily bad". Yeah, I'm not the best player, but I've asked some. i play them just fine but i changed it '_>'
00:19:024 (2) - The spacing would look cleaner at 268 264 - also it would flow better with the next slider. Speaking of the next slider, I think it doesn't really suit this 00:18:613 (1) - due to it's shape. Maybe make just a clean looking blanket curve? changed, but kept the weird slider as it, i like how it reflects the synth.
00:20:667 (2) - This sound sounds more like a slider to me, due to it's ongoing noise. never looked at it that way, i dont know how it slipped past me. remapped.
00:21:078 (1,1,1,1) - Maybe curve them a bit? Looks more interesting to me than simple straight 1/4. changed
00:26:626 (3) - I suggest 40 248 to keep the timeline DS consistent, and also for the flow. changed
00:26:832 (1) - Blanket would be appreciated here. woops
00:27:551 (4) - There is a thumbrule which says no 1/4 sliders starting on the blue tick. Most of the time, I'd like to see this applied - so yeah, it goes for this one too. I don't think letting it end on the white tick is too genius, because you simply ignore the downbeat here.
Goes for all 1/4. If you deny it, I want at least a really good reason. I'm following the synth here, this is the rhythm pattern it uses and there is nothing wrong with starting sliders on a blue tick in this particular situation, especially since its an extra. Difficulty should also be within the rhythm. It is a rhythm game after all.
00:40:394 (3) - http://puu.sh/956Q0/d723984fb8.jpg Please use this rhythm for the already mentioned points. I don't see why I should. What does this accomplish besides simplying the map and making it more boring/lowering the rhymtical difficulty? This isn't a basic pop song with basic rhythm, it has variation in it's rhythm everywhere and for the reasons stated earlier I'm not changing this.
01:17:791 (1,2,3,4) - How about some whistles? hmmm I prefer having nothing to not overhitsound this part, I want it to be a transition and not whistle spam
01:32:585 (1) - Start on the white tick, not on the one after, since you actually have no beat on that one. doing that would remove the hitsound on the whitetick and play nothing instead.
01:49:332 (2,3) - Yeah.. circle jump these make sense and are only placed on these particular parts in the song where the high pitched synth plays
02:01:352 (1,2,3,4) - Go for this pattern if you want more flow in it, maybe make it a bit neater, than the provided screen. http://puu.sh/9578n/09d0e3b493.jpg im not sure if im seeing that correctly (mspaint op) but the difficulty spike this would introduce isnt something i like at all

Could be done way cleaner, can't really judge about it, since aesthetics are very important to me. Please take care of the rhythm in the first kiai (well, it SOMEHOW works but still, in this diff I'd like to see it different since it's not consistent over the diff), the second kiais rhythm is done good. Also, please get rid off the circle jumps, since you didn't use them consistently anyway.. their "inconsistant use" was justified above...
diff
osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: Insane Techniques.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 500
PreviewTime: 25085
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.5
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LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
Title:Insane Techniques
TitleUnicode:Insane Techniques
Artist:kors k
ArtistUnicode:kors k
Creator:captin1
Version:Azer's Extra
Source:beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA
Tags:dj_orange bemani konami hanzer iyasine tks tksalt azer
BeatmapID:396761
BeatmapSetID:155288

[Difficulty]
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CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:8
ApproachRate:9
SliderMultiplier:2.1
SliderTickRate:4

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captin1
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Irreversible wrote:

[General]

Check aiMOD and make sure there is everything fixed what needs to be fixed. everything is fine, it's just bugging out
I think the video is not on point. You can see it here: 01:26:010 (1) - (where the smilies appear, it doesn't go too well with the music)

[Beginner]

00:15:325 (3) - A bit picky here, but I actually prefer http://puu.sh/955br/cbf36b6ce0.jpg for flow reasons. okie
01:12:859 (1) - The last bit of the slider looks a bit weird. Why not making it either more straight or just a curve? yeah
01:26:832 (3) - Quite strong beats imo, why not making them a clickable action? would have to rearrange more than I'd like, so I'll keep this, it's fine for me
01:29:914 (1) - I think CTRL +H on the slider shape would benefit the flow. yep
01:39:161 (1) - It's really close to the slider before, mind moving it a bit to the left?
Actually, 01:39:161 (7,1,2,3) - I have a suggestion for this, it would bring in a cool pattern http://puu.sh/955vo/a5d2e5b1cb.jpg (01:38:339 (6,7) - would be the same shapes then) Because the current angle is pretty tight and yup, that would soften it a bit up. cool
02:02:174 (1) - Sure this is correctly snapped? yes actually

Neat.

[Normal]

00:52:311 (4) - Not sure if suitable for a normal, maybe just put 1/2? I really don't see what's wrong with it, it's a click and hold action, not like actually playing 1/4
01:20:257 (1) - That's quite unaudible.. mind making it a bit louder? yep
01:27:243 (3) - NC ? xD did on 4 instead

Hm.. acceptable. normal has always been my weak point :?

[Another]

00:21:078 (4) - NC to indicate the part.
01:27:243 (7) - NC because cool.
01:57:654 (2) - Cool!

I like. yay all done

[HanzeR's Extreme]

<3 hanzer is ded again rippppppp

00:25:188 (2) - NC kkk
00:32:072 (2,3) - I honestly don't like the flow here, could you think of something else here? http://puu.sh/957nb/0a37c98189.jpg ? works well
00:28:476 (1,2,3,4) - I'd actually like to see this rhythm, but then again, I think the circle at the end here works really good for this tension break. http://puu.sh/957pF/8806987df6.jpg yeah I think this works well as is
00:41:524 (1) - I hope you can just simply stack with slider start of 1.
01:21:078 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - 01:22:722 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - I'm a bit unsure about those and you know why.. think about it..
01:25:599 (1,1) - <33
01:27:243 (1,1) - <3333
01:27:448 (1) - blanket? XD looks alright to me o.o
01:28:681 (3) - http://puu.sh/957Cl/de940c23a8.jpg How about this rhythm? I think her voice should be clickable, in order to get the best possible feeling. Screen starts 01:28:270 - . cool

what the **** was that. Looks really clean and fun tho. If you can play it ! xD
call me
thanks!
Ez2dj_7144
Ez2dj_7144
key sound
In electronic sound into the sound of the whistle is not right in

7k Extreme
Extreme means very great in degree or intensity. not found heavy note
Irreversible
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what about iyasine? D:
captin1
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seems he's afk, so tried to fix what you said without changing too much
Irreversible
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HEYO!
SHAKE THAT!
~right now~~

bubbled!!

..oh you like that ;)
captin1
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awesome!

tomorrow is my birthday so i hope i can get it ranked then ><
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HYPEEE
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Giralda wrote:

HYPEEE
LunarSakuya
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LunarSakuya
god bless america

General
- add "azerfrost" to tags since that's his previous name


Beginner
00:20:257 (1) - try Drum clap
00:21:078 (3) - whistle on slider body could fit the bgm here~
00:46:558 (1) - on the head, consider switching to Soft addition. Gives the Finish on the tail a "lift" while the bgm maintains a similar feeling imo
01:06:284 (1) - whistle on tail, the note here jumps out a bit and makes a nice transition into the whistle on the next slider
01:07:928 (1) - Delete NC
01:09:572 (1) - whistle on head
01:11:215 (2) - ^ and tail
01:12:859 (1) - whistle on tail
01:16:147 (3) - whistle on head and NC
01:51:078 (5,6) - perhaps whistle on slider bodies
sry about the hitsound mod lol. Nice patterns w

Normal
00:21:900 (4) - consider NC to match your other diffs
00:28:065 (4) - whistle on tail like in Beginner? If you apply, i suggest you follow the whistle hitsounding in Beginner then for this part
00:52:311 (4) - think you meant Finish on the tail
01:06:284 (1,2,1,2) - consider this rhythm or similar:
SPOILER
i thought it might be interesting to make the sliders catch the more emphasized points in the music
01:12:859 (1) - same for this area if you like
01:27:654 (1) - May be better to just make this into a 1/1 slider to follow a similar flow to 01:26:010 (1) - .
01:49:024 (1) - Finish

Another
00:21:078 (1,2,3,4) - i feel there's more potential to make this stand out more. Like a gradual spacing out:
SPOILER
something like it matches the crescendo in the bgm
00:28:270 (6) - perhaps pull this away from the stack and move it downwards for some circular flow
SPOILER
00:42:654 - i feel like something needs to be here...like there's a small gap during play
00:49:229 (6) - Finish in tail i guess
01:47:380 (1,2) - consider pointing this couple upwards
SPOILER
The oval flow from the previous combo makes it tempting to dive into & pass this as a more quicker rhythm. The clash in direction flow could make it more easier to read as a sudden change into the antijump

HanzeR's Extreme
00:44:606 (8) - consider Ctrl + G to create a mini drop-down flow to the next note
01:38:544 (1,2) - why not have these touching like at 01:36:900 (1,2) - ?

Azer's Extra
00:33:407 (1) - Finish on head sounds nice
00:37:620 (4) - maybe keep this curved to create a pinwheel pattern
01:25:599 (1,2) - I think it'd be neat to separate these to make the vocals & combo stand out
01:27:243 (1,2) - yeah like this

O~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
captin1
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LunarSakuya wrote:

god bless america murica

General
- add "azerfrost" to tags since that's his previous name ehhh i'll ask him but probably not needed


Beginner
00:20:257 (1) - try Drum clap
00:21:078 (3) - whistle on slider body could fit the bgm here~
00:46:558 (1) - on the head, consider switching to Soft addition. Gives the Finish on the tail a "lift" while the bgm maintains a similar feeling imo I would lose the normal whistle from doing that, and I think it sounds better with it
01:06:284 (1) - whistle on tail, the note here jumps out a bit and makes a nice transition into the whistle on the next slider
01:07:928 (1) - Delete NC
01:09:572 (1) - whistle on head
01:11:215 (2) - ^ and tail
01:12:859 (1) - whistle on tail
01:16:147 (3) - whistle on head and NC
01:51:078 (5,6) - perhaps whistle on slider bodies did for 5 but not 6, and then added to similar places in this section
sry about the hitsound mod lol. Nice patterns w ww

Normal
00:21:900 (4) - consider NC to match your other diffs
00:28:065 (4) - whistle on tail like in Beginner? If you apply, i suggest you follow the whistle hitsounding in Beginner then for this part
00:52:311 (4) - think you meant Finish on the tail
01:06:284 (1,2,1,2) - consider this rhythm or similar:
SPOILER
i thought it might be interesting to make the sliders catch the more emphasized points in the music hmmmm no thanks, don't like how that sounds personally since the melody line is represented well with these sliders imo
01:12:859 (1) - same for this area if you like
01:27:654 (1) - May be better to just make this into a 1/1 slider to follow a similar flow to 01:26:010 (1) - .
01:49:024 (1) - Finish

Another
00:21:078 (1,2,3,4) - i feel there's more potential to make this stand out more. Like a gradual spacing out:
SPOILER
something like it matches the crescendo in the bgm cool did somethin similar
00:28:270 (6) - perhaps pull this away from the stack and move it downwards for some circular flow would break the consistency of this pattern
SPOILER
00:42:654 - i feel like something needs to be here...like there's a small gap during play
00:49:229 (6) - Finish in tail i guess
01:47:380 (1,2) - consider pointing this couple upwards
SPOILER
The oval flow from the previous combo makes it tempting to dive into & pass this as a more quicker rhythm. The clash in direction flow could make it more easier to read as a sudden change into the antijump i love you

HanzeR's Extreme
00:44:606 (8) - consider Ctrl + G to create a mini drop-down flow to the next note
01:38:544 (1,2) - why not have these touching like at 01:36:900 (1,2) - ?

O~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=w=
Azer
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Azer

LunarSakuya wrote:

god bless america

General
- add "azerfrost" to tags since that's his previous name pls no
Azer's Extra
00:33:407 (1) - Finish on head sounds nice k
00:37:620 (4) - maybe keep this curved to create a pinwheel pattern k
01:25:599 (1,2) - I think it'd be neat to separate these to make the vocals & combo stand out k
01:27:243 (1,2) - yeah like this
wee
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LunarSakuya
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~~~Happy Birthday~~~


god save the captin
captin1
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thanks! :D
kisata
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kisata
basically, congrats

edit: i'm weird
Fycho
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Fycho
Happy birthday!
Lanturn
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Lanturn
Oh, nice. Congrats!

Happy Birthday?
ignorethis
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ignorethis
extreme is so cool.
Satellite
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Satellite

Fycho wrote:

Happy birthday!
AllStar12
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AllStar12
Congrats! \^^/

Edit: Your birthday today?! Happy Birthday!! \:D/
Zero__wind
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lol that last slider in (_̅_̅_̅_̅_̲̅м̲̅a̲̅я̲̅i̲̅j­̲̅u̲̅a̲̅n̲̅a̲̅_̅_̅_̅()ڪے~
and that diff's timing is wrong lol

Happy birthday
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Zero__wind wrote:

(_̅_̅_̅_̅_̲̅м̲̅a̲̅я̲̅i̲̅j­̲̅u̲̅a̲̅n̲̅a̲̅_̅_̅_̅()ڪے~

HanzeR
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HanzeR

Zero__wind wrote:

lol that last slider in (_̅_̅_̅_̅_̲̅м̲̅a̲̅я̲̅i̲̅j­̲̅u̲̅a̲̅n̲̅a̲̅_̅_̅_̅()ڪے~
and that diff's timing is wrong lol

Happy birthday
Maybe try smoking more and pass it over here
Nwolf
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Nwolf
the taiko diffs are pure awesomeness

gz : D
Blueprint
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Blueprint

ignorethis wrote:

extreme is so cool.
TKS
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TKS
omedetou!
iyasine
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iyasine
AFK sorry...

Happy birthday captin :D
Dexus
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Dexus
Audacity

This song is 26ms late
captin1
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captin1
so....what? the offset is correct, if you're trying to imply that it's not
and the mp3 is directly from the iidx 21 ost, so there's not a problem with it being possibly edited either

looking in audacity isn't the best way to tell the offset, actually using human ears will be far more effective, so i suggest you stop wasting your time by spamming all of these threads with offset checks that are completely wrong
Dexus
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Dexus
It's because of people like you that almost all the maps in osu! are timed wrong.
captin1
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captin1
Try editing the map to the timing that you're suggesting, and then play the map. You'll find that then that it will feel completely wrong

Audacity is NOT the best possible way to find the offset. Trust me, I've tried it myself, and it's extremely off from what the best offset in the client will be. I'm not the expert, but I can speculate that it's due to differences in how Audacity and the osu client interpret the mp3 file
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
wow dexus those are some

insane techniques

you use to find offset
Dexus
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Dexus
So I sampled a wrong spot, it's -16ms. You can check for yourself if you'd like. This method doesn't work 100% of the time but it's a lot better than using your ears. Most of the time when I get a wrong offset I just sample a different spot and it ends up being correct.

Audacity
EmingK
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Dexus wrote:

This method doesn't work 100% of the time but it's a lot better than using your ears.
People don't play osu! with Audacity, they use their ears. So we do timing with ears.
A good timing targets accurate hit during gameplay. Therefore, if you can hit accurately with the beat, the timing is well done.
The "true" offset?
who cares
Fycho
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Fycho

Dexus wrote:

So I sampled a wrong spot, it's -16ms. You can check for yourself if you'd like. This method doesn't work 100% of the time but it's a lot better than using your ears. Most of the time when I get a wrong offset I just sample a different spot and it ends up being correct.

Audacity
This map's timing is fine for me. please NEVER trust Audacity's offset anytime, always trust your own ear and playing! Stop your meaningless behaviour.
Sellenite
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Sellenite

Dexus wrote:

This method doesn't work 100% of the time but it's a lot better than using your ears.
do you play osu with audacity、goldwave、adobe audition、cool edit、format factory ？xD
mintong89
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mintong89

Dexus wrote:

So I sampled a wrong spot, it's -16ms. You can check for yourself if you'd like. This method doesn't work 100% of the time but it's a lot better than using your ears. Most of the time when I get a wrong offset I just sample a different spot and it ends up being correct.
As EmingK, Fycho and Sellenite said, we're using our "feel" to playing osu but not Audacity. The software such as Audacity is totally useless even the offset is right because "feel" is more important between with "correct offset". Please test yourself before you decide anything, and learn how to accept your mistake. I can tell you -16 ms is wrong with my three years mapping experience, and you want to know, if you put a song into the osu it'll slightly delay the song (it'll automatic +ms I mean).
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MMzz
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MMzz
We do not use third party software to obtain offsets and timing.
This game is timed by ear and played by ear, not robots.
There is no need to argue about this.

Don't let this thread get out of hand.
EasyMillions
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Can't wait :D
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