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Mwallx
lol another month
Topic Starter
PyaKura
Tomorrow(tm)
Mwallx
OD9 too harsh,struggle to S sigh
Topic Starter
PyaKura
I'll consider reducing it to 8,8 or 8,7 but no lower
richardfeder
Sorry for the laziness lateness. Here's the mod.

PyaKura wrote:

I'll consider reducing it to 8,8 or 8,7 but no lower
9 is totally fine in my opinion.

I think the EX diff is excellent overall, but there are some minor issues that I would like to address. I will list some of them but I strongly recommend you to go over the chart and check every detail on your own. You know your chart better than me.
1) Layering issue. It seems that your layering is not very consistent. I have no idea if this is intended, but I do think consistency is very important in BMS style chart.
For example: 00:23:002 (23002|2,23002|5,23169|1,23169|4) - should be three notes / 00:25:336 (25336|2) - 00:26:669 (26669|5) - should not exist /
01:18:002 (78002|6,78002|4,79002|2,79002|4,79336|4,79336|3) - three notes...

2) Overnote issue. Make sure that there is not a single ghost note in your chart. Notes like 01:21:614 (81614|2) - 01:26:280 (86280|2) - should not exist. Also place like 01:37:752 (97752|2,97752|0,97752|5) - is also overnote

3) Under map. eg 01:17:086 - Add notes.

And the following are pattern suggestions. Remember that these are just suggestions.
1) I am poor at English and I really don't know how to put it on words, but personally I really don't like your pattern at 00:32:002 - . It just doesn't look nice for me. I definitely won't try to put piano on one hands while letting the other hand don't drums, and also stair pattern doesn't fit drum very well.

2) 01:04:002 - to 01:06:669 - : simplify the pattern. Make it the same as 00:56:002 - to 01:02:669 -.This is a wrong place for adding layers: Pay attention to hithat and you will notice that the pace at this part is still pretty slow. From 01:06:669 - hithat starts to appear and make you feel more intense and that is the place you want to add more layers, but do keep the pattern simple before 01:06:669 - .

3) 01:17:336 - double stairs are great but can you diversify the pattern? I recommend you to follow the flow of piano and try to make some "interesting" pattern rather than double stairs all the way to the end(Sorry I know I phase it really bad but i don't know how to express my ideas...)

4) 01:57:336 - ded. Do you want to try trill?

5) About EX and EX-test, I prefer EX. But I do think EX-test's pattern is legit. You can use more pattern to express the music instead of solely relying on jacks, but a few nice jacks won't hurt overall.

That's all. Good luck requalifing this!
Topic Starter
PyaKura
Aaah there we go. I'll go through your mod asap, will edit this post a bit later. I just woke up lol.
Topic Starter
PyaKura

richardfeder wrote:

Sorry for the laziness lateness. Here's the mod.

PyaKura wrote:

I'll consider reducing it to 8,8 or 8,7 but no lower
9 is totally fine in my opinion. Keeping OD9 after all.

I think the EX diff is excellent overall, but there are some minor issues that I would like to address. I will list some of them but I strongly recommend you to go over the chart and check every detail on your own. You know your chart better than me.
1) Layering issue. It seems that your layering is not very consistent. I have no idea if this is intended, but I do think consistency is very important in BMS style chart.
For example: 00:23:002 (23002|2,23002|5,23169|1,23169|4) - should be three notes Fixed and shifted the notes around a bit to make those two new notes fit in.
00:25:336 (25336|2) - 00:26:669 (26669|5) - should not exist / these represent the background low pitched long synth sounds, but since I didn't want any LN in there.. yeah well
01:18:002 (78002|6,78002|4,79002|2,79002|4,79336|4,79336|3) - three notes... actually this should be two notes, I removed the three notes chords in this part, thanks for pointing this out. (three notes chords mid stream start here 01:26:669 - )

2) Overnote issue. Make sure that there is not a single ghost note in your chart. Notes like 01:21:614 (81614|2) - 01:26:280 (86280|2) - should not exist. I'm aware of these but it creates an inconsistency gameplay-wise. If the stream of notes didn't suddenly stop on a 1/6 snap I would have taken that into consideration. So yeah for the sake of flow I decided to keep them.
Also place like 01:37:752 (97752|2,97752|0,97752|5) - is also overnote Replaced with what I did for the EX test diff. Drums now use 2 notes, piano uses 1 note.

3) Under map. eg 01:17:086 - Add notes. Didn't feel like it was necessary but fixed either way.

And the following are pattern suggestions. Remember that these are just suggestions.
1) I am poor at English and I really don't know how to put it on words, but personally I really don't like your pattern at 00:32:002 - . It just doesn't look nice for me. I definitely won't try to put piano on one hands while letting the other hand don't drums, and also stair pattern doesn't fit drum very well. Errr I tried to change it so the patterns use both hands but I'm not too sure... Changed anyway.

2) 01:04:002 - to 01:06:669 - : simplify the pattern. Make it the same as 00:56:002 - to 01:02:669 -.This is a wrong place for adding layers: Pay attention to hithat and you will notice that the pace at this part is still pretty slow. From 01:06:669 - hithat starts to appear and make you feel more intense and that is the place you want to add more layers, but do keep the pattern simple before 01:06:669 - . Since you are not the first one to make this remark I'll change that.

3) 01:17:336 - double stairs are great but can you diversify the pattern? I recommend you to follow the flow of piano and try to make some "interesting" pattern rather than double stairs all the way to the end(Sorry I know I phase it really bad but i don't know how to express my ideas...) uh idk this long part screams to use double streams, I have a hard time inserting aesthetics in the whole thing especially when it is heavily mapped according to pitch relevancy and playability. Changed some note placement here and there.

4) 01:57:336 - ded. Do you want to try trill? Used EX test's burst instead

5) About EX and EX-test, I prefer EX. But I do think EX-test's pattern is legit. You can use more pattern to express the music instead of solely relying on jacks, but a few nice jacks won't hurt overall. Dropped the idea

That's all. Good luck requalifing this! Thanks !
Once again thanks for taking your time to go through the whole diff ! :)

edit : woopsies that's actually a double-post lel
stryver12
when BN check?
Topic Starter
PyaKura
Ask zenny CCCCC:
ArcherLove
1~7 = collumn
nm

00:11:836 - add LN? till 00:13:336 - I suggest at 1
00:18:669 (18669|0) - move to 7
00:44:002 (44002|3) - I think move this to 2 and add at 6 (1 for piano 1 for whistle)
01:05:752 (65752|2,65919|2) - move 1 to red and white line? blue line seems hard to NM player..
01:43:502 - add to 4
02:08:756 - add to 6
Topic Starter
PyaKura

ArcherLove wrote:

1~7 = collumn
nm

00:11:836 - add LN? till 00:13:336 - I suggest at 1 I like that, helps differentiate it from the rest of the diffs
00:18:669 (18669|0) - move to 7 why not
00:44:002 (44002|3) - I think move this to 2 and add at 6 (1 for piano 1 for whistle) I'll keep this similar to other diffs
01:05:752 (65752|2,65919|2) - move 1 to red and white line? blue line seems hard to NM player.. might be true, done
01:43:502 - add to 4 nah 65423 is a bit awkward to hit
02:08:756 - add to 6 ok
Wow I didn't expect a mod so soon, as simple as it is. Thank you ~
Niks
shot one star~ ****
Topic Starter
PyaKura
wew thank you i'm blessed by a korean guy ~
stryver12
Why remove EZ diff? :(
Topic Starter
PyaKura
Song is unsuited for an EZ diff because of the long piano parts and I didn't want it to be a 1/1 rhythm fest.
Evening
IRC
16:58 Evening: o you died
16:58 Evening: was going to say
16:59 Evening: are you still going end tim
16:59 PyaKura: i am
16:59 Evening: who is ranking
16:59 PyaKura: just bng is such a mess atm i'm not bothering
16:59 Evening: i'll probably do another check on it before the bubble later
16:59 PyaKura: might ask usagi
16:59 Evening: i think i'll do forum since your internet is huhuahuhw
17:00 PyaKura: my internet is cool now
17:00 Evening: oh ok
17:00 PyaKura: i was in china at the time
17:00 Evening: i'll check it after i do a irc mod then
17:00 Evening: which is in a bout like 1 hour
17:00 PyaKura: oh ok
17:00 Evening: should be fast anyways
17:00 PyaKura: i'm pretty here all day long so just poke me whenever
17:01 Evening: did you get jhlee to test
17:01 PyaKura: pretty much*
17:01 PyaKura: well he basically like everything that is hard apparently lol
17:01 PyaKura: or that he knows he'll probably do better than everyone else
17:01 Evening: lmao
17:01 Evening: well
17:57 Evening: okay
17:57 Evening: are u dead
17:57 PyaKura: i'm not
17:57 PyaKura: why
17:57 Evening: nothing
17:57 Evening: totally not poking you for end time
17:58 PyaKura: c:
17:59 PyaKura: lemme check something first
18:00 PyaKura: since I'm on my desktop I'm not sure I have updated the map on my laptop
18:00 PyaKura: I mean as in uploaded the update
18:00 Evening: the ending doesn't look dumb
18:00 Evening: i think you updated it
18:01 PyaKura: just starting up oss on my laptop sec
18:01 Evening: yea i can actually pass EX
18:01 Evening: as in for the bubble check
18:02 PyaKura: oh cool
18:02 Evening: you need to give me circles song if you can find it if i bubble this
18:02 Evening: i want circles sings
18:03 PyaKura: D:
18:03 Evening: jk
18:03 PyaKura: you'll probably be able to grab it when nekodex releases it publicly
18:03 Evening: i'm checking the other diffsz
18:03 Evening: mm yea
18:03 PyaKura: uuh
18:03 PyaKura: I need to resurrect map first
18:03 PyaKura: it's graved lol
18:04 Evening: is it updated
18:04 Evening: i mean the laptop thing
18:04 Evening: w/e
18:04 PyaKura: august 10
18:04 PyaKura: should be updated
18:05 PyaKura: give me a sec
18:05 PyaKura: i'm logging out 1 min
18:05 Evening: ok
18:06 PyaKura: yup, it's updated
18:06 Evening: sooo
18:06 Evening: you good for irc now
18:06 *Evening is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391015 Cres - End Time [The End [IN]]]
18:06 PyaKura: redownloading on my desktop
18:06 Evening: oh ok
18:07 PyaKura: ok ready
18:07 Evening: 01:16:669 (76669|6,76669|4,76669|0,76752|5,76752|3,76836|4,76836|2,76836|6,76919|1,76919|3,77002|4,77002|0,77002|2) - so first thing is that
18:07 Evening: uh
18:07 Evening: probably too hard
18:07 Evening: maybe
18:07 Evening: this is harder than that of ex
18:08 PyaKura: is it?
18:08 PyaKura: ok um
18:08 Evening: your level of playing should be around this level so it shouldn't be a problem to come up with a pattern that you can confortably FC
18:08 Evening: yea your EX is anti bracket http://puu.sh/k5aTc/f4b61cd9ad.jpg
18:09 Evening: which feeellls much better just saying
18:09 PyaKura: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3652547
18:09 PyaKura: how about this
18:09 Evening: that's mmmmmmm
18:09 Evening: nice
18:09 Evening: 01:15:502 (75502|3,75836|3) - hmmm
18:09 Evening: what do you think about this on 6
18:10 PyaKura: if those were to move i'd prefer on 1
18:10 PyaKura: to avoid too much 1/2 jacking i guess
18:10 Evening: oh ok
18:11 PyaKura: do I move them ?
18:11 Evening: uhh do you have problems with this pattern
18:11 Evening: cause im basing it on if you can actually FC this comfortably
18:11 Evening: ^:)
18:12 PyaKura: this whole part is FC'able yes
18:12 Evening: oh cool then
18:12 Evening: nevermind about the moving
18:12 Evening: 01:57:336 - the whole ending is uh
18:12 Evening: a big mindblock for me
18:12 Evening: idk how people do this
18:13 PyaKura: lol there are times I breeze through it and others that huh
18:13 Evening: do you use left thumb
18:13 PyaKura: not really at all I guess
18:13 PyaKura: no
18:13 Evening: ?_ ? ? ? ?? ?
18:13 Evening: ctrl+Hing it for me is better
18:13 Evening: idk
18:13 PyaKura: let me try
18:14 PyaKura: yes definitely
18:14 Evening: cause i don't really want thumb bias aaa
18:14 PyaKura: Ctrl H'd
18:14 PyaKura: me neither
18:15 PyaKura: guess I can Ctrl H only midway
18:15 PyaKura: Ctrl H'd completely atm
18:15 PyaKura: defintely feels better to play
18:15 Evening: this is a pain to map i can imagine
18:16 Evening: oh jesus how do you make a pattern that plays well with this snap
18:16 PyaKura: it's difficult to balance between the diff I want to give this and the potential density it can be
18:16 PyaKura: lol
18:17 PyaKura: mmmh
18:17 Evening: mhmhmhm
18:17 PyaKura: I think I have a similar case on perditus paradisus
18:17 PyaKura: do you have the map ?
18:17 Evening: 01:57:336 - was thinking of uhh
18:17 Evening: uh yea
18:17 PyaKura: the pattern over there feels a bit better
18:17 PyaKura: sec
18:17 Evening: 01:57:336 - was thinking of having a 123 gallop constant on the left hand
18:18 Evening: then 567 doing the rest of the stuff
18:18 PyaKura: in perditus
18:18 PyaKura: starting from 01:48:479 -
18:18 PyaKura: i'll see your suggestion
18:18 Evening: ok i don't have it on this computer
18:18 Evening: uh
18:18 *PyaKura is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/716507 iconoclasm - perditus paradisus]
18:18 Evening: only had it on the desktop
18:18 Evening: which stopped working
18:18 Evening: deskstopped
18:18 PyaKura: o rip
18:19 PyaKura: uuuh
18:19 PyaKura: 123 gallop
18:19 Evening: perditus is slow so i guess it kinda worked
18:19 PyaKura: is it 1232123 or 123123123
18:19 Evening: 123123123123123
18:19 PyaKura: ok
18:19 Evening: 123212321 is probably jhlee level
18:20 PyaKura: for 1/6 right
18:20 Evening: yea
18:20 PyaKura: so basically a simplified version of what I did with EX
18:20 Evening: kinda
18:20 PyaKura: with stair-ish 1/4
18:21 Evening: 01:59:669 - you can probably do a sweep to the right at the end
18:21 Evening: for the finish
18:21 Evening: using a 1/6 1/4 stair thing /we
18:21 Evening: w/e*
18:21 Evening: oh god this gallop is hard
18:22 PyaKura: lol
18:22 Evening: i think you can try switching hands after like 4 repeats on that
18:22 Evening: omg
18:22 Evening: i fced it mmmm
18:23 Evening: http://puu.sh/k5bkD/02a04e9fbd.jpg kinda what i did
18:23 Evening: http://puu.sh/k5bkU/ba9d23bfe5.jpg
18:23 Evening: though it is really easy to fuck up
18:24 PyaKura: lol wait i try
18:24 Evening: i have bad accuracy on this but idk of any other pattern that is better actually
18:25 PyaKura: I do better on the old one lol
18:25 PyaKura: better accuracy and combo
18:25 Evening: sooo which one
18:26 PyaKura: well based on what I just did
18:26 PyaKura: old one
18:26 Evening: eh yea idk about the old one lol
18:27 Evening: i probably need more onions about this
18:27 Evening: i don't really want mindblockable patterns =\
18:27 PyaKura: the 1/6 should be running around more
18:27 PyaKura: 1/4 can be repetitive I think
18:28 PyaKura: like 12321 is easily doable
18:28 Evening: yea
18:28 Evening: might wanna ask if a double diff is possible
18:28 Evening: like a mirror diff
18:29 PyaKura: huuh
18:29 Evening: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/301204 taiko had a mirror diff
18:30 Evening: so you can just fully bias the thumb
18:30 Evening: like god damn this is fun
18:30 Evening: http://puu.sh/k5byl/8c6cdfd27d.jpg
18:31 PyaKura: yes lol
18:31 Evening: idk
18:31 Evening: ask qats later
18:31 PyaKura: I can just give half the bias to left thumb users
18:31 PyaKura: cheap solution
18:31 Evening: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
18:31 PyaKura: but eeeeeh
18:31 Evening: well
18:31 Evening: do it and update it x)
18:31 Evening: i'll see
18:31 Evening: i prefer the easy pattern haha
18:33 PyaKura: copying whats in your last screenshot
18:33 PyaKura: and ctrl H in half
18:33 PyaKura: lol
18:33 Evening: o
18:35 PyaKura: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3652612
18:35 PyaKura: rofl
18:35 Evening: uhwowoa ho god
18:35 Evening: ew
18:35 Evening: just move the 246 chord to 147
18:35 Evening: that can work i gues...
18:36 PyaKura: done
18:36 Evening: uhh can let me eats
18:36 Evening: i need to eats
18:36 PyaKura: sure
18:36 Evening: i very hunger
18:36 Evening: ok
18:36 Evening: thank
18:36 Evening: brb like 15 mins
18:36 Evening: in should be ok nwo
18:36 Evening: now*
18:36 PyaKura: sure
18:36 Evening: IN*
18:37 PyaKura: meanwhile i'll update like that
18:43 PyaKura: ok I got 750k 93,44% and I felt like it was a bad play
18:44 PyaKura: but that's basically 50k more and 1,5% more than my old highscore on the old version
18:58 Evening: ok i undied
18:58 PyaKura: wb undead
18:58 Evening: where were we
18:58 PyaKura: i updated IN
18:58 Evening: o right
18:59 PyaKura: with bias for both thumbs
18:59 Evening: w ow ; _ ;
18:59 PyaKura: check and see if it's ok :c
18:59 Evening: i haven't done the middle right
18:59 PyaKura: not yet
18:59 Evening: the middle sounds weird ( still )
18:59 PyaKura: oh and I have to rename the diffs as well
18:59 PyaKura: yes
19:00 PyaKura: you had suggested some diff names which sounded nice
19:00 Evening: yeaaa that should be ok
19:00 PyaKura: cool
19:02 PyaKura: what were the diffnames again
19:02 PyaKura: there were prologue/interlude/epilogue
19:02 PyaKura: and I forgot the last one
19:03 Evening: prologue interlude epuh
19:03 Evening: ieyagwqe
19:03 Evening: w8
19:03 Evening: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3652672 a y l m ao
19:04 PyaKura: are you for real m8
19:04 PyaKura: lmao
19:04 Evening: wat
19:04 Evening: just pick 4 x)
19:04 PyaKura: preface sounds good
19:04 Evening: im ranking that also so mmm
19:05 PyaKura: lol
19:05 PyaKura: rip originality
19:05 Evening: become bn and give bubble
19:05 PyaKura: If I wasn't so lazy I'd be bn lol
19:06 PyaKura: I like modding but it just happens like twice a year
19:06 Evening: well
19:07 Evening: yea IN is solid
19:07 Evening: i mean
19:07 Evening: HD
19:07 Evening: middle
19:07 Evening: w/e
19:07 Evening: thing
19:08 PyaKura: yes
19:08 PyaKura: ok
19:08 PyaKura: i get it
19:08 PyaKura: ;-;
19:08 Evening: ok
19:08 Evening: okokok
19:08 Evening: imma eat your head off
19:08 PyaKura: !!
19:08 PyaKura: D':
19:09 Evening: you updated right
19:09 Evening: just checkin
19:09 Evening: inb4 i bubble and you didn't update =(
19:09 PyaKura: i updated IN yes
19:09 PyaKura: rest is left untouched so far
19:09 Evening: oki
19:10 Evening: uhhh sooo
19:10 *Evening is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391014 Cres - End Time [The Beginning [NM]]]
19:10 PyaKura: yes
19:10 Evening: 01:43:336 (103336|5,103419|4,103586|1,103669|2) - idk about these 1/4 stuff lol
19:10 Evening: i think like beginners will probably enjoy constant stream
19:10 Evening: of 1/2
19:10 Evening: not complex patterns stuff
19:10 Evening: i mean complex rhythms
19:10 PyaKura: mmmh good point
19:11 Evening: 01:48:002 (108002|2,108086|4,108336|3,108502|2,108669|5,108752|1,108836|4,109086|2,109169|4) - probably keep to 1/2
19:11 PyaKura: i thought maybe a little variation here would add more diversity
19:11 Evening: or 1/1 stuff
19:11 PyaKura: kkk
19:11 Evening: mmm yea variation is good i guess but uhh
19:11 Evening: 1/4 broken stream is kinda ? _ ?
19:12 Evening: it feels like a weird rhythm out of no where
19:12 PyaKura: yes
19:12 PyaKura: get what you mean
19:12 Evening: oki
19:12 Evening: now i eat your face off
19:12 PyaKura: 01:48:002 (108002|2,108086|4,108336|3,108502|2,108669|5,108752|1,108836|4,109086|2,109169|4) -
19:12 PyaKura: do those r eally feel out of place?
19:12 Evening: the rhythm is just complex lol
19:13 Evening: not sure how beginners will like it
19:13 PyaKura: hence the 1/1 break before it
19:13 PyaKura: mmm
19:13 Evening: like in the piano, 01:48:086 (108086|4) - this feels like it's early by 1/4
19:14 PyaKura: wait wtf
19:14 Evening: 01:49:086 (109086|2) - and this is late by 1/4
19:14 PyaKura: this note isn't even supposed to be there
19:14 PyaKura: uuh good catch
19:14 Evening: a
19:14 Evening: well
19:14 Evening: uhm
19:14 Evening: thanks
19:15 PyaKura: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3652716
19:15 PyaKura: not even like this ?
19:15 PyaKura: i mean the drums are still obvious
19:15 Evening: aa
19:15 Evening: i meant like
19:15 Evening: 01:49:086 (109086|2,109169|4) - this and 01:48:002 (108002|2,108086|4) -
19:15 Evening: is kinda weird in rhythm
19:16 PyaKura: 01:48:002 - this one is no more
19:16 PyaKura: can't I just keep one ? :c
19:16 Evening: uheheuheue ok
19:16 Evening: bms drum beats are weird
19:16 PyaKura: :|
19:17 Evening: eh ok
19:17 PyaKura: well considering they are pretty much always on 1
19:17 Evening: just update
19:17 PyaKura: lol
19:17 PyaKura: do I change the diffnames now
19:17 Evening: uh sure
19:17 Evening: cause imma bubble after
19:17 Evening: ? _ ?
19:17 PyaKura: ooooo ok
Evening
double post/bubble
Topic Starter
PyaKura
it happens




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after a year and a half
Lirai
go go
Elementaires
wow
ovnz
do it
Mwallx
lol
CharlisMadCut
so kool
Demane
no way...
¨
I believe
Topic Starter
PyaKura
yeah yeah soon
hopefully
Tidek
Why that LN is used only in NM difficulty?

Topic Starter
PyaKura
because why not

more seriously it's to differentiate it from the other diffs, nothing more nothing less
Topic Starter
PyaKura
Bubble pop/Update because of hitsounds-related issues (being checked by ExUsagi atm)
Arzenvald
put re-download notice since the hitsound has changed
log
16:33 PyaKura: oi unago
16:55 ExUsagi: oy
16:55 ExUsagi: sorry long reply. what's up pya?
16:57 PyaKura: yo no problem
16:58 PyaKura: so uh do you feel like taking in end time's qualify request in your todo list?
16:58 PyaKura: actually
16:58 PyaKura: blocko was supposed to do it but he's been rarely online due to university
16:59 ExUsagi: is someone checked the map yet?
16:59 ExUsagi: *have
16:59 PyaKura: if i remember correctly he has started checking by himself but had never finished
16:59 PyaKura: uh zenx bubbled it
17:00 PyaKura: we went over patterns and hitsound volume, difficulty spread as well (had to rework IN diff)
17:01 PyaKura: the only thing i am not 200% sure is hitsound placement since when we fixed them using the hs copier they went a bit all over the place but it looked fine to us
17:04 ExUsagi: rip hs coppier
17:05 ExUsagi: not submitted?
17:05 *ExUsagi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391016 Cres - End Time]
17:05 ExUsagi: oh
17:06 PyaKura: diff rename
17:06 ExUsagi: re-downloading
17:06 ExUsagi: i don't like how osu!direct stopped downloading without notification
17:07 ExUsagi: are you even using normal hitsound
17:08 ExUsagi: omg
17:08 ExUsagi: why people use so many hitsounds ;w;
17:08 ExUsagi: *like to use
17:08 PyaKura: lol
17:08 *ExUsagi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/511109 Daft Punk - Something About Us (Love Theme from Interstella 5555)]
17:09 ExUsagi: try something like this : clap finish whistle
17:09 ExUsagi: not samples
17:09 PyaKura: i've always hitsounded with samples xD
17:09 ExUsagi: i never hitsound my map with samples
17:09 ExUsagi: :T
17:10 ExUsagi: orz its too hard to check hitsound consistency with sampled map.. like seriously
17:11 ExUsagi: read: lazy and not worth.. i could give you a hitsound diff, then you can copy it through all of your diff
17:11 PyaKura: orz
17:11 ExUsagi: it would works better, i'v done this many times and they were go ranked :V
17:12 PyaKura: well if you feel like doing it
17:12 ExUsagi: of course
17:12 PyaKura: i guess i'm fine with it
17:12 PyaKura: sorry ;-;
17:13 ExUsagi: neeh it would help you to get rid with the hitsound problem
17:16 PyaKura: so
17:16 PyaKura: all i will have to do is use the hs copier over all diff ?
17:26 ExUsagi: yes
17:26 ExUsagi: actually
17:26 ExUsagi: this song is least-hard to hitsound than i thought
17:26 ExUsagi: and really simple
17:27 PyaKura: yes it's pretty straight forward
17:27 PyaKura: most of it is synth + piano which are not really hitsoundable
17:27 ExUsagi: good thing you use bms style
17:31 ExUsagi: first, set all hitsound to drum custom 1
17:31 ExUsagi: in all diffs http://puu.sh/koDUq.jpg
17:31 PyaKura: how do I do that again?
17:31 ExUsagi: there
17:31 PyaKura: oh okay yeah
17:31 ExUsagi: f6, ctrl + a, audio tab, choose drum & tick custom
17:32 ExUsagi: then go to your folder, remove all of your custom hitsound in there
17:32 ExUsagi: and replace with these hitsound...
17:32 ExUsagi: wait
17:32 PyaKura: setting all hs to c1
17:33 PyaKura: 1 sec
17:33 ExUsagi: http://puu.sh/koDXE.rar
17:33 ExUsagi: d1 please
17:33 ExUsagi: o3o
17:33 ExUsagi: c1
17:33 ExUsagi: what
17:33 PyaKura: custom 1
17:33 ExUsagi: yes
17:33 ExUsagi: lel
17:33 PyaKura: ok done
17:33 ExUsagi: also
17:34 ExUsagi: how to reset those sampled hitsound (in orange bar)
17:34 ExUsagi: that's the most important part
17:35 PyaKura: ctrl + a the notes and then click Reset?
17:35 ExUsagi: idk
17:35 ExUsagi: lol
17:35 PyaKura: or just reset without selecting anything
17:35 PyaKura: lol
17:35 ExUsagi: i guess it will removed as you copy the hitsound
17:36 PyaKura: i can also alt + click the editor playfield
17:36 PyaKura: and then click reset in there
17:36 PyaKura: iirc it works too
17:36 ExUsagi: yes
17:37 PyaKura: ok then i just copy hitsounds with the hs copier ?
17:37 ExUsagi: yus
17:39 PyaKura: wow I've lost the copier lol
17:39 PyaKura: brb re-dl it
17:41 ExUsagi: orz
17:45 PyaKura: ok
17:45 PyaKura: can I update now?
17:45 ExUsagi: sure
17:45 ExUsagi: i'll redownload
17:46 PyaKura: this will pop the bubble btw
17:47 ExUsagi: yes
17:47 ExUsagi: i'll rebubble if necessary
17:47 ExUsagi: since the hitsound is just no
17:48 PyaKura: okay lol
17:48 PyaKura: updated
17:49 *ExUsagi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391014 Cres - End Time]
17:50 *ExUsagi is watching [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/548945 Cres - End Time [Afterword [EX]]] <osu!mania> |Autoplay| |7K|
17:51 ExUsagi: have you switch everything to Drum?
17:52 PyaKura: oh my bad
17:52 PyaKura: i'm stpudi
17:52 PyaKura: stupdi
17:52 ExUsagi: it still normal and soft xD
17:52 PyaKura: dipehzpificugsgfsdwk
17:52 ExUsagi: LOL
17:52 ExUsagi: xD no
17:52 ExUsagi: this why recheck always required
17:54 PyaKura: should be ok now
17:55 ExUsagi: wew
17:55 ExUsagi: do you fine with the curent hitsound?
17:56 PyaKura: yeah no problem with me
17:56 *ExUsagi is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/548945 Cres - End Time [Afterword [EX]]]
17:56 ExUsagi: 00:23:169 (23169|0) - add w in all diffs
17:56 PyaKura: listened with 100% effect sound and music sound
17:57 ExUsagi: that normal-whistle <3
17:57 ExUsagi: i took that from your folder anyway
17:57 PyaKura: done
17:57 PyaKura: xD
17:58 PyaKura: update again or is there anything else to add
17:58 PyaKura: ?
17:58 ExUsagi: still checking
17:59 ExUsagi: this will flows better http://puu.sh/koF2M.png
17:59 ExUsagi: 01:32:919 (92919|2,93002|0,93044|1,93086|2,93169|0,93211|1,93252|2,93336|0) -
17:59 PyaKura: EX diff ?
17:59 ExUsagi: yes
17:59 *ExUsagi is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/548945 Cres - End Time [Afterword [EX]]]
18:00 PyaKura: after several feedback they said it felt good symmetrical
18:00 PyaKura: (originally it was like you suggested)
18:01 ExUsagi: o_o
18:01 ExUsagi: i don't remember i suggested that
18:01 ExUsagi: 01:49:502 (109502|1,109502|4) - until 01:57:002 (117002|4,117002|5) - do you think those W is synced x__x i guess you can remove them all
18:01 PyaKura: also some players said it was easier to roll from left to right and others from right to left
18:01 PyaKura: so, this way nobody can say anything xD
18:01 ExUsagi: rip dc
18:02 ExUsagi: i don't use spacebar, so it will be easier to roll from right to left lol (fit with the piano pitch as well)
18:02 PyaKura: what do you mean from 01:49 to 01:57??
18:03 PyaKura: and yes I know it respects pitch relevancy but it's more important to be playable by most possible users
18:03 ExUsagi: 01:49:669 (109669|6,110502|0,111002|4,111502|5,111669|4,111836|1,112336|0,112669|2,113002|5,113669|2,114169|3,114502|3,115002|6,115336|1,115669|1,115836|1,116336|2,116669|3,117002|4) -
18:03 ExUsagi: these whistle
18:03 ExUsagi: View > Show Sample Names
18:03 ExUsagi: you'll see the hitsound in those notes
18:04 PyaKura: yes i think i'll remove them
18:04 PyaKura: i'm not particularly mapping to drum there
18:04 PyaKura: xD
18:04 ExUsagi: those notes are spessificaly for pianos
18:04 ExUsagi: yeah
18:04 ExUsagi: i didn't notice that when i make the hitsound
18:04 ExUsagi: <(")
18:05 ExUsagi: in all diffs
18:05 ExUsagi: aand update it, i'll ready for rebubble
18:08 PyaKura: re-updated !
18:09 ExUsagi: those stuff are fixed in all diffs right?
18:10 PyaKura: should be yes
18:10 PyaKura: mmmh wait a sec
18:10 PyaKura: slight inconsistencies, lemme fix
18:10 PyaKura: 01:49:336 - here
18:11 ExUsagi: 00:23:919 - i missing something here as well
18:12 PyaKura: ah yes
18:12 PyaKura: fixed in all diffs
18:12 ExUsagi: ok
18:12 *ExUsagi is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391014 Cres - End Time [Prologue [NM]]]
18:12 ExUsagi: last suggestion
18:13 ExUsagi: 01:14:669 (74669|0) - this 1/4 would be better to not exist, since you don't map the easy diff
18:13 ExUsagi: but its up to you
18:13 ExUsagi: since its layered correctly
18:14 PyaKura: well since it's relatively simple (from side to center) stairs i think beginners who have played a few days or week can manage
18:14 PyaKura: it's not really a 100% beginner diff after all
18:15 ExUsagi: ok
18:15 PyaKura: oh btw 02:00:002 - there is no drum there
18:15 ExUsagi: it means no change
18:15 PyaKura: yes
18:15 ExUsagi: 02:00:002 (120002|2) - click the Auto button
18:15 ExUsagi: in sampleset
18:15 ExUsagi: and change to normal
18:16 PyaKura: wat wat where
18:16 ExUsagi: left top
18:16 ExUsagi: below sampleset
18:16 PyaKura: oh
18:16 PyaKura: i see
18:16 ExUsagi: there's Auto
18:16 ExUsagi: and change to normal, while the note selected
18:16 PyaKura: okay
18:16 PyaKura: i do that in all diff wait a sec
18:16 ExUsagi: ok
18:17 PyaKura: fixed
18:17 PyaKura: upload again?
18:17 ExUsagi: update again
18:17 ExUsagi: xD sorry, this is what i always do for bubble check
18:18 ExUsagi: last time i made reikosaka upload 13 times
18:18 PyaKura: it's okay xD
18:18 ExUsagi: for requalify check x__x
18:18 PyaKura: LOL rip
18:18 PyaKura: well it's better this way than leaving errors
18:19 PyaKura: updated
18:19 ExUsagi: wait a sec
18:19 *ExUsagi is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391014 Cres - End Time [Prologue [NM]]]
18:20 ExUsagi: your map is beyond more better than most 7K pending maps around.. x__x just saying
18:20 ExUsagi: 01:05:836 (65836|5) - move to 01:05:752 -?
18:20 PyaKura: Well yeah I hope so, it's been online for nearly 2 years LOL
18:20 ExUsagi: 01:06:002 (66002|4) - ^
18:21 PyaKura: oh
18:21 PyaKura: nice catch
18:21 ExUsagi: don't forget to replace the hitsound here 01:06:002 (66002|2) -
18:21 PyaKura: uhoh wait
18:22 PyaKura: i think that was zenx suggesting to not use too many "complex" 1/4 rhythm
18:22 ExUsagi: you said you don't really put this diff for beginner
18:22 ExUsagi: :V so i just follow your word lol
18:22 PyaKura: yes i did
18:22 ExUsagi: the flow itself feels odd
18:22 ExUsagi: since you layer the synth consistently
18:23 PyaKura: yes i have to agree on this one
18:23 ExUsagi: i even surprised that pocket-gao uses jackhammer in normal diff on his 8K map
18:23 ExUsagi: and got qualified
18:23 ExUsagi: means QAT doesn't really mind with the complex pattern as long as its fit
18:24 PyaKura: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/3729573
18:24 PyaKura: should be okay like that
18:24 PyaKura: it's spreaded out on both hands
18:24 ExUsagi: ok
18:24 ExUsagi: 01:07:336 - missing something?
18:25 ExUsagi: just imo but this 01:06:669 (66669|2,66669|5) - until 01:09:336 (69336|5,69336|1) - feels doesn't fit with the music flow..
18:25 ExUsagi: you know what to do
18:26 ExUsagi: (ps : don't let the star rating went above 2.0)
18:26 PyaKura: oh i think it's because i focus on hihats and synth
18:26 ExUsagi: oooh
18:27 PyaKura: basskick is left out in this part
18:27 ExUsagi: remove all whistle hitsound then
18:27 ExUsagi: a bit tad off with those hitsound
18:27 PyaKura: 01:09:002 (69002|4,69169|2,69336|5) - I'm leaving those
18:28 PyaKura: they fit to transition with the following patterns where I follow those bassdrum lol
18:28 ExUsagi: ok
18:28 ExUsagi: 01:13:502 - add at 7?
18:28 ExUsagi: 01:12:169 (72169|3) - because this
18:29 PyaKura: uh yes
18:29 PyaKura: added on 4 instead though
18:30 PyaKura: didn't see this one
18:30 ExUsagi: 01:46:752 (106752|1,106919|3,107252|5) - remove
18:30 ExUsagi: 01:49:086 (109086|2) - idk with this o.o is this kick bass or?
18:31 PyaKura: uuuuh D:
18:31 ExUsagi: xD its just suggestion..
18:31 PyaKura: i'll keep it the way it is
18:31 PyaKura: also from 01:49:086 (109086|2) -
18:31 PyaKura: to
18:31 PyaKura: woops
18:32 PyaKura: 01:48:002 - to 01:49:336 -
18:32 PyaKura: it's bassdrum
18:32 ExUsagi: add w
18:32 ExUsagi: lol
18:32 PyaKura: already done
18:32 PyaKura: i knew it xDD
18:32 ExUsagi: lol
18:32 ExUsagi: self check will be better when i checking
18:33 ExUsagi: ok nm done
18:33 *ExUsagi is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391016 Cres - End Time [Interlude [HD]]]
18:33 ExUsagi: 00:13:336 (13336|4) - add 1 more note for kick
18:33 PyaKura: i'm also fixing that part in other diff
18:33 PyaKura: wait a sec
18:33 ExUsagi: okay
18:35 PyaKura: added the note
18:36 ExUsagi: 00:31:669 (31669|2) - to 1?
18:37 ExUsagi: this patterns in kiai
18:37 PyaKura: 2-1-2-1 is meh imo
18:37 ExUsagi: @u@
18:37 ExUsagi: ok no change then
18:38 ExUsagi: 01:57:614 (117614|5,117725|5,117947|1,118058|1,118280|5,118391|5,118614|1,118725|1) - imba jack
18:38 PyaKura: 01:25:169 -
18:38 ExUsagi: o.o what's with that?
18:38 PyaKura: you added 1 W too much
18:38 PyaKura: xD
18:38 PyaKura: no bassdrum there
18:38 ExUsagi: oh ok
18:39 ExUsagi: when i thought that part has kick x_x
18:39 ExUsagi: did zenx check the snapping conflict?
18:39 PyaKura: and for the jacks mmmh
18:40 PyaKura: what do you mean snapping conflict?
18:40 ExUsagi: different snapping on 2 different diff
18:40 PyaKura: ooh
18:40 PyaKura: well there was this problem and I couldn't solve it
18:40 PyaKura: so he fixed the snaps himself lol
18:40 ExUsagi: o_o
18:40 ExUsagi: ok
18:40 ExUsagi: as long as you refers the bms snapping
18:41 ExUsagi: aaand i guess those jacks is fine
18:41 PyaKura: those jacks are hidden ssshhhh
18:41 PyaKura: as long as the player has the speed he won't notice :^D
18:42 ExUsagi: ok
18:42 ExUsagi: lol
18:42 PyaKura: in the old EX diff I had 1/8 jacks
18:42 PyaKura: THAT was problematic
18:42 PyaKura: LOL
18:43 ExUsagi: oh rip
18:43 ExUsagi: 01:22:336 (82336|5,82377|3,82419|2,82461|0,82502|4) -
18:44 ExUsagi: snapping conflict
18:44 *ExUsagi is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391015 Cres - End Time [Epilogue [IN]]]
18:44 ExUsagi: IN with HD
18:44 ExUsagi: this is undankable
18:45 PyaKura: 01:22:502 (82502|3,82558|2,82614|1) -
18:45 PyaKura: in HD diff
18:45 ExUsagi: yes that too
18:46 ExUsagi: daaamn
18:46 PyaKura: i don't see the snapping problem at 01:22:336 - o_o
18:46 ExUsagi: the IN has 1/8
18:46 ExUsagi: the HD has 1/6
18:46 ExUsagi: LOL
18:47 PyaKura: WHAT
18:47 PyaKura: really xD
18:47 ExUsagi: File > Open difficulty
18:47 ExUsagi: As Reference
18:47 ExUsagi: open HD & IN at the same time
18:47 PyaKura: LOL
18:47 PyaKura: Yes you are right
18:47 ExUsagi: :^) i am
18:48 PyaKura: fixed
18:48 PyaKura: i can't believe I put 1/8 in there wtf
18:48 ExUsagi: who cares, QAT passes my diff with 1/6 snapping
18:48 ExUsagi: where there's only 1/4
18:49 PyaKura: lolwat xD
18:49 ExUsagi: oboro
18:49 ExUsagi: i don't see any other unsnapes
18:50 PyaKura: i have never noticed lol
18:50 ExUsagi: 01:57:614 (117614|4,117725|4,117780|5,117891|5,117947|4,118058|4,118114|5,118225|5,118280|4,118391|4,118447|5,118558|5,118614|4,118725|4,118780|5) - FUC DIS JAC
18:50 PyaKura: okay
18:50 ExUsagi: lul
18:50 ExUsagi: why don't you make 7654 7654 / 4567 4567 stairs in all part
18:51 PyaKura: Okay so this pattern is a long story
18:51 PyaKura: even zenx tried to map it in a way it doesn't suck to play
18:51 PyaKura: he couldn't xD
18:51 PyaKura: that was the best thing we could do
18:51 ExUsagi: wait
18:51 PyaKura: those are 1/6
18:52 PyaKura: can't do 4 notes stairs
18:52 PyaKura: i like when the pattern "resets" on white lines if you see what I mean
18:52 ExUsagi: oh my
18:52 ExUsagi: yes
18:52 PyaKura: in repeatable parts of a song I mean
18:55 ExUsagi: how
18:55 ExUsagi: rip
18:55 ExUsagi: orz
18:55 ExUsagi: dc
18:55 ExUsagi: wut
18:55 ExUsagi: dc
18:55 ExUsagi: rip
18:56 PyaKura: wat
19:00 ExUsagi: why this part
19:00 ExUsagi: so hard
19:00 ExUsagi: to map
19:01 PyaKura: i know right xD
19:01 PyaKura: it's hard to map it so it's not too easy and not too hard xD
19:03 ExUsagi: i don't even know if this is good or not
19:04 PyaKura: if it was lower bpm it would not have been a problem
19:04 PyaKura: i have the exact same case in my perditus paradisus map but it plays fine because it's lower bpm
19:04 ExUsagi: http://puu.sh/koHKz.png
19:05 ExUsagi: those grace should be straight-forward played.. but idk
19:05 ExUsagi: at least there's no jack
19:05 PyaKura: looks hard to control
19:05 ExUsagi: ^
19:05 ExUsagi: that's the problem
19:05 PyaKura: with 1/6 and 1/4 switching hands every few notes
19:05 ExUsagi: keep then
19:05 ExUsagi: lol
19:06 PyaKura: dw i had a similar pattern before
19:06 ExUsagi: ok
19:06 PyaKura: where there was no jacks
19:06 *ExUsagi is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/548945 Cres - End Time [Afterword [EX]]]
19:06 ExUsagi: oh
19:06 PyaKura: but it was too hard to play correctly
19:06 ExUsagi: better to keep that wy then
19:06 ExUsagi: *Way
19:07 ExUsagi: 00:35:669 (35669|5,35836|6,36002|4,37002|4,37169|5,37336|3) - i don't like how the other diffs doesn't follow this 5 6 4 rhythm
19:07 ExUsagi: :U
19:07 ExUsagi: other than that.. i have no idea with this diff
19:08 PyaKura: uh no idea either
19:08 PyaKura: i don't remember why i changed the other diffs like that
19:08 ExUsagi: ayy
19:08 PyaKura: heard something along the lines of "it's too similar" or something
19:09 ExUsagi: fix it in other diff, and update it once again, i'll check the snapping consistency in EX diff
19:09 ExUsagi: then i can sleep
19:09 PyaKura: LOL
19:09 PyaKura: okay
19:10 PyaKura: fixed
19:11 PyaKura: moved around the notes in IN diff so it's "not too similar" as in the EX diff
19:11 ExUsagi: ok
19:11 PyaKura: but i kept pitch relevancy so it's cool
19:11 ExUsagi: ok
19:13 *ExUsagi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391015 Cres - End Time]
19:13 ExUsagi: still pending
19:13 ExUsagi: e.e
19:13 PyaKura: do I update ?
19:13 ExUsagi: have you update it?
19:13 PyaKura: Lol
19:14 PyaKura: no I didn't
19:14 ExUsagi: ok then, EX diff is pretty much ok
19:14 ExUsagi: ;;
19:14 PyaKura: thought you were checking snaps
19:14 PyaKura: ok updated!
19:14 *ExUsagi is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391016 Cres - End Time]
19:14 ExUsagi: re-downloading again
19:15 PyaKura: http://puu.sh/koIa0.png mfw this is over 160 updates LOL
19:16 ExUsagi: ok
19:17 ExUsagi: 01:26:336 (86336|5,86419|4,86502|3,86586|2) -
19:17 *ExUsagi is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/391015 Cres - End Time [Epilogue [IN]]]
19:17 ExUsagi: in and ex has different snapping
19:17 PyaKura: where
19:17 ExUsagi: 01:26:336 (86336|5,86419|4,86502|3) - around this 3
19:17 PyaKura: oh
19:17 PyaKura: mb
19:18 PyaKura: didn't see your link
19:18 ExUsagi: 01:27:669 (87669|2,87752|3,87836|5) - around this three too
19:18 ExUsagi: most of them are correct in 1/6 right?
19:18 PyaKura: 01:26:336 - 01:26:336 (86336|5,86419|4,86502|3) - yes those should be 1/6
19:19 PyaKura: and yes those too
19:19 PyaKura: fixed
19:19 ExUsagi: 01:42:752 (102752|1,102919|3) - remove in IN
19:19 ExUsagi: there's no 1/4
19:20 ExUsagi: 01:45:836 (105836|4,105919|6,106002|5) - 1/6 in ex, 1/4 in in
19:20 ExUsagi: 01:47:086 (107086|4) - remove in in
19:20 ExUsagi: *in IN
19:20 ExUsagi: omg y u name your diff like that
19:21 ExUsagi: and last thing : 01:50:669 (110669|0,110669|5) - in IN diff, i thought you don't follow the kick
19:21 PyaKura: :'D
19:21 ExUsagi: that's all
19:21 PyaKura: ok wait a sec xD
19:22 PyaKura: 01:45:836 (105836|4,105919|6,106002|5) - in IN diff actually I think those sounds I wanna map are 1/8
19:22 PyaKura: not sure
19:22 ExUsagi: heu
19:22 PyaKura: or 1/6
19:22 PyaKura: I can't figure it out lol
19:22 PyaKura: do you hear 1/4 or 1/6
19:22 PyaKura: I mean 1/8 or 1/6
19:22 ExUsagi: heu i don't know
19:23 ExUsagi: check bms ver?
19:23 PyaKura: BMS is all over the place lol
19:23 PyaKura: there are even 1/12 snaps
19:23 PyaKura: ?????????
19:23 ExUsagi: x_x
19:23 ExUsagi: check in 25%
19:23 PyaKura: i'll go with 1/6
19:24 PyaKura: that's what I'm doing
19:24 PyaKura: lol
19:24 ExUsagi: ok
19:24 ExUsagi: make sure all diff has same snapping
19:26 PyaKura: should be alright now
19:26 PyaKura: i'll just check the burst parts again
19:26 PyaKura: 1 sec
19:26 ExUsagi: ok
19:26 ExUsagi: ;w; self check please, i got many stuff to check at once
19:26 *ExUsagi is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/723304 nora2r - VISION [BASIC]]
19:26 PyaKura: sure
19:32 PyaKura: updated
19:32 PyaKura: should be okay now
19:32 ExUsagi: lemme rebubble now then

we've fixed bunch of errors, including hitsound revise in all diffs, patterns, and snapping conflict.. rebubbled \w/
puxtu
dude gratz
lemonguy
Afterworld [EX]
01:59:558 (119558|1) - I believe this is a wrong snap and that it should be on a 1/6 beat like the rest of the notes?
Topic Starter
PyaKura
Weird, it is correctly snapped on my side. (And somehow your timestamp still highlights the note).
Evening
uh i qualified this accidentally ( i mean it's ready but i didn't expect there to be a slot )
Okoratu
Evening

Okoratu wrote:

Zen
p/4541762
what?
so it's broken? lol
uhm woops
Okoratu
Nah its working as intended, congrats xD
Evening

Okoratu wrote:

Nah its working as intended, congrats xD
Uh....

sorry starry :<
Elementaires
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Arzenvald
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