This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 19 января 2010 г. at 19:57:32

Artist: Exile
Title: Indestructible
Source: Street Fighter IV
Tags: Street Fighter IV 4 Amodeus EEeee Exile Indestructible Next Door
BPM: 105
Filesize: 13961kb
Play Time: 03:24
Difficulties Available:

1. EEeee's Hard (4,98 stars, 598 notes)
2. Hard (4,37 stars, 318 notes)
3. Insane (4,8 stars, 486 notes)
4. Normal (4,18 stars, 259 notes)
5. X EZ (1,41 stars, 96 notes)

Download: Exile - Indestructible
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My 3rd beatmap.

Thanks to Atmey and dumpsterdiver for awesome skin
And all modders and BAT`s who helped me

TDM, Mafiamaster, Andre and EEeee and all other <3 u guys

Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions, you don't have to fix, your choice.
Orange: You don't have to fix too, but is better if you do it.
Red: You have to fix this for sure!

Starts Suggestions:

- Set a preview point on all diff's.
- You need an easier difficulty.

[Hard]

02:21:71 (10) - New combo.
03:03:71 (3) - ^
03:12:86 (4) - ^
03:17:43 (3) - ^

[Insane]

00:13:43 (10) - Add a break after this note?
00:41:28 (10) - New combo.
01:22:28 (14) - ^
02:48:00 (8) - ^

Holly cow, i was gonna map this, may i make a diff? and no i can't map normals and easy wells, if i may make a hard style EEeee diff, holla at ur boy

Hard
01:38:00 (7) - this isn't space properly, but it does look nice were it is, add new combo to this note

Insane
wow, i like it :3

Overall
set a preview point to the map
and hmm, AI mod is saying no BG, also i don't see BG in the song select screen? weird

well anyways, dang i love this song/map, thanks for getting it out there

Fixed.

Hey EEeee, sure, you can make your own diff

I`ll make a preview, don`t worry bout this.

And yeah, need help with easy diff ((

I don`t even know how to map such thing

- Skin is fucking awesome. Really.
- Sliderball should IMO be changed a bit - the "ball" center should correspond with image center. It'd fit nicer. Also, without skin.ini to fix it, it behaves wrong after hitting reverse arrows. Consider deleting it and using one that works on this map
- BG needs to be scaled/cropped to max. 1024x768, I did it for you (attachment at the end). I only scaled "Street Fighter" logo.


Place timing sections that change hitsounds set or volute 1/4 *before* the note it's mean to change - if player clicks note too early, he may get wrong sound. (Unless maybe it's already fixed.)

[Normal]
00:06:861 - what are these two inherited sections for?
02:15:28 (1) - shouldnt it start 1/4 earlier?
02:55:14 (4,5) - IMHO it'd feel better as one slider with 5 repeats.

[Hard]
It doesnt have BG set.
00:06:861 - what are these two inherited sections for?
01:28:86 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - it's kinda hard to tell whether (7) or (8) is the slider. I suggest some remapping.
02:15:28 (1) - shouldnt it start 1/4 earlier?
02:55:14 (4,5) - like Normal. IMHO it'd feel better as one slider with 5 repeats.


Well, that's all. Nice map, man.


And here's the BG:

Thank you much, Matma_Rex

Nice Beatmap!!!

Starred

Starred

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Hard
00:43:43 (2,4,6) - clap the beats, whistle the slider
00:45:71 (7,2,3) - finish the red beat, clap the blue one and the slider's end
01:11:71 (spinner) - finish here
01:11:71 (1) - clap the repeat of the 1st slider and the 2nd slider's start and end, end the 3rd one with finish
01:33:71 (4,5,6) - whistle on the 1st slider's start, on the 2nd slider's end and on the beat
01:53:43 (7) - clap the repeat on this slider
02:42:28 (9,10) - whistle the beat, finish the slider's end

Insane
00:07:00 (2,4,6,8) - whistle here
00:09:28 (2,4,6,8) - ^
00:11:57 (2,4,6,8) - ^
00:56:00 (3,5,7) - clap 3rd and 5th beats, finish the other one

A good beatmap with a nice skin like this needs MORE hitsounds...
try to set more of them ^^

OFfset: 6865-6867?

[Normal]

Choose a preview point ( timing> set current position as preview)

Add claps on white ticks from the start to 00:45:718, like:
00:27:432 (1,2,3) Clap at the start
00:28:575 Clap at the end
00:30:289 Clap
00:30:575 Clap at the end
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From 00:46:003 to 00:52:289 add whistle on red ticks, like:

00:46:003 whistle
00:46:575 whistle at the start
00:47:146 ^
00:47:718 ^
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00:54:289 Clap at the start
00:57:432 clap
00:58:289 finish at the start
01:00:860 clap
01:01:146 remove the clap
01:01:432 clap at the start; remove the clap at the end
01:02:003 (2,3,4) clap at the start
01:03:146 add also a finish at the end
01:13:432 (1,2) whistles at the start
01:15:718 ^
01:16:575 whistle
01:18:003 (1,3) ^
01:19:432 remove the clap at the end
01:20:860 whistle at the start and at the end
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01:26:860 to 02:24:003:

As above ( the rythm is the same)
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02:25:146 whistle at the start+clap at the end
02:25:718 (2,3) clap at the end
02:26:860 whistle at the start+clap at the end
02:28:003 ^
02:28:860 clap at the starts
02:29:432 whistle
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02:34:860 to 02:43:146

Add claps on red ticks
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02:45:432 remove clap
02:45:718 add a clap to the start
02:47:146 clap at the end
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02:47:860 to 03:19:575

claps on white ticks

01:28:860 spacing.

[Hard]

For the hitsounds: the same suggestions wrote in [Normal]
Don't use only finish and sometimes the clap. Follow the rythm also with whistles.

For the ramaining of the song:
No problems found.

Starred!

General
Skin is awesome. =]

The follow circle for the slider needs to point in the direction it moves. Is this possible?

Normal
Stacked sliders like 00:52:057 (1,2,3,4) and 01:06:000 (1,2) shouldn't be in a Normal.

Otherwise, fine.

Hard
Fine.

Insane
Woo!

IMO this feels like a borderline Hard-Insane. Increase Overall Difficulty to push it into the Insane region? It's great as it is but not as Insane as it could be (without going overboard). =]

Needs more Finish. Places like 01:05:071 (9) work well with Finish.

01:22:028 (1,2,3,4) - Use timing sections to increase volume and stuff, yanno.
01:33:071 (2,4,6) - Eh what.
03:20:057 (5,6) - Move timing sections BEFORE the note. Otherwise, if you hit the note too early, you'll hear the stuff from the previous timing section.

(Uh... why is there a Post Icon selection on WIP/Help maps? o_O)

Wow... this skin is awesome.

Offset: Armin is right, it's 6866.

Also, why is there a green timing point on top of a red timing point that isn't a kiai? Can't you just make it a single red timing right there? (because the only reason I know for having both a red and green timing point at the same time is when the start of the song is both the kiai and the start of the beat)

can you full-submit? plz the file is corrupted

Starred ^.^
:3

[Skin]

1. Sure, it's a great skin, but didn't you took it from an existing skin already? There's one in the forums, and you just copied every file there (you even copied unused files!). This is not really effective for the filesize. You must first download the latest version, and set it as the preferred skin (Song Setup -> Storyboarding). You can place a download link in the Author's Comments so everyone knows where to download it.

[Kiai Time]

00:54:865 - IMO this is a weird place to use Kiai.

[Normal]

01:06:000 (1,2) - Please reduce the number of repeats (2) has, right now it's impossible to know it'll have more than one repeat.
01:11:072 (1,1) - Try to NOT use notes right after a spinner. This is one of the cases where I noticed this more, but there are several other cases here.

[Hard]

1. Delete the first Inhereted section.
2. Background isn't set for this difficulty. You need to reinsert it.
3. Offset isn't the same as the other difficulty.
4. The difficulty is very similar to [Normal]... I don't think this will get easily ranked.

01:02:057 (2,3) - Please redo these sliders, some lines are missing.

~ ~ ~

The normal difficulty was fine, but there are a few problems with hard. Please fix what you can and I'll recheck later.

ok HARD mod is gogo

OVERALL

offset if different for each map, please make them the same
re,apply the background for hard, then full upload the map again, the bg is not showing on the preview

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[Normal]

00:30:000 (4,5,6,7) -  i kno its nazi but it look horridly odd, grid level to 3 then line these upto (3)
00:48:029 (1,2) - they overlap but non of the others do, again on grid level 3 fix this
01:06:058 (2) - like gens says, its pretty much impossable to tell what to do here, seen as its a normal diff
01:28:086 (4) - its begging for a new combo there XD
02:06:000 (2) - ugly placing

put grid on 3 and go through your map, you will see theres is lots of nazi probs if you wanna fix them, you dont HAVE to but if you do it will make your map look much better
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[hard]
......................except from upto 00:23:071 it feel like im playing normal again >_>, you will need to either make another diff or make this one harder for it to ever get ranked most likely :/

01:06:057 (2) - again same is normal, seems wierd

no more probs i could find but after playing this again it feels easier than your normal diff, really i think you need to go through this map and "harden" it
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will star once the problems are fixed since its a nice map

Aww, too bad you've mapped the english version, the japanese one is so much better. Spacing and combos are alright but the patterns are boring imo. I don't like it how you've added the kiai time sections and remember, you should always place them on a note! You should also remove the first timing section with the 600 BPM on [Insane], otherwise the sliders are fucked up. Btw. there are skin elements which aren't used (menu-back.png for example) so you might remove them and you should credit the skin creator.

Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions.
Orange: I think you should fix this.
Red: You must fix this.

Starts Suggestions:

All seems ok.

[Hard]

This is a Normal btw D:
It's ok

[Insane]

00:34:086 (8) - New combo

Starred~

Hard
Insane

Very nice skin.
The cursor is unplayable, because it goes to the top-left for me, not the middle. Put skin.ini in the folder so this doesn't happen.

I'll mod later, but for now~

Download: Exile - Indestructible (Amodeus) [X EZ].osu

Done for the most part, might need a few hitsound adjustments but I think it's pretty good

Star for awesome song too.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, Normal wasn't included in the .osz file. (for me anyway)

[Hard]
Hitcircle size 2 ticks bigger

overall difficulty 1 tick harder

[Insane]
nothing

c _ L

Starred

[Hard]
01:28:580 (x) - Place note here

Good song! STAR

It seems like the map is missing two of the difficulties? I only receive hard and normal when I attempted to look at this map. Try full-submitting this map to see whether if that fixes it. If not, I'll hit up on the support team to see what's up... XD

Anyway, about the actual map itself... I actually had Mystearica look on it as well, so part of this modding post will be coming from her.

[Normal]

Well, we both generally agreed that the claps and whistles seem kinda random... it is suggested that the claps are put every other beat to create a solid basis for the map, if you are to use them... and the whistles generally don't fit, especially on the cases like:

00:46:008 (1,2,3,4,5) - Myst had suggested generally removing all the whistles and then keeping that finish on the end, and I agree with her on that one, it does sound better without the whistles

Same case with...

00:48:294 (1,2,3) - An interesting concept that Myst gave me when we were modding this map is that since this combo's number of beat should be the same as the previous combo, since they share the exact same rhythm. This means 3 repeats one less and whistles are removed with a finish ending it.

Those are just some examples, but generally, the hitsounds do need work... though by no means are they unbearable. It is just that it could be better.

00:50:580 (1,2,3) - This could also share the same rhythm with the combos before it... so, you could use the same hitsound setup on it by adding an extra beat on the red tick.

[Hard]

This map sounds better than normal, in my opinion... with the lack of whistles present.

The claps are... well... a little bit scattered. For example, I think the claps in the beginning is used correctly, however, places like:

00:31:437 (10) - Just a finish is really suffice here.
00:35:437 (10) - Same thing with the end of the slider, the clap seems misplaced here
00:38:294 (5) - You have a clap here... and that sounds fine... but...
00:39:723 (5) - Makes me wonder why is there no clap here then!

One of the point of clap hitsounds is that you have to really make sure you got a rhythm with them... clapping is supposed to be rhythmic after all... you don't hear people clapping just once in real life either.

Anyway, generally, from what I have seen, this map is of ranking standards... but it could definitely be improved. I could only give a star for now anyway, since I haven't seen the other two difficulties.

Overall this is a pretty enjoyable map, but it could still use some improvement.
Easy
I'm noticing the same clap/whistle thing that MaxwellDemon pointed out.

One example would be at 00:27:437, where the first two and last two beats use the clap sound, while all but one of the other beats use the whistle. I'd personally recommend using the clap on 1 and 3, and then using claps on 00:29:723 and 00:30:865, along with removing the clap from 00:31:437 (and possibly making that a finish)

besides various similar hitsound issues, the only problem I noticed was the slider at 02:05:437, which seems a bit too close to the previous spinner for an easy difficulty (although changing this is really up to you, since it doesn't exactly make the map impossible to pass or anything)

Normal
-00:56:580 would probably sound better with a clap
-the beat at 01:19:151 seems a tiny bit too close to the previous note.
Other than that, the majority of the random clap sounds seem to have been fixed, but I did not see the earlier version of the map, so I can't say for sure.

Hard
The spacing of the notes in the opening of the song have almost random spacing, even though most of the notes are the same distance apart.
Other than that, this difficulty is fine

Insane
No problems. :3

Note to other BATs: please refrain from ranking this map untill EEeee adds his difficulty, which he tells me will be very soon. If a week passes after this post, EEeee's difficulty isn't posted, and the map is suitable for ranking, then go ahead.

HEY!!! RE-DOWNLOAD THIS!!! added/fixed a lot of stuff

make sure mine has the same offset as urs, and make sure preview point is set in mine

Download: Exile - Indestructible (Amodeus) [EEeee's Hard].osu

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

[Overall]

Timing: BPM: 105,00 - Offset: 6.876 (Remember to resnap all notes.)

[Difficulties]

[X EZ]

01:22:029 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:57:072 (2,3) - Adjust this spacing. Is different from 01:57:015 (1,2).

[Normal]

00:52:058 (1,2,3,4) - I found this pattern too hard to read correctly for a normal difficulty.
01:01:072 (1,2,3) - Adjust this spacing.
01:11:072 (1) - End kiai at the end of this spinner. Just a suggestion.

[Hard]

Set a preview point.

01:37:072 (7,8) - Spacing.
02:15:029 (1) - Never start spinners on blue ticks if not necessary.

[Insane]

01:20:000 (8) - New combo.
01:53:043 (6) - Slider repeat is partially hidden.
02:01:000 (1) - Never start spinners on blue ticks if not necessary.
02:25:015 (1) - Starting from here, soft section? Suggestion.
02:43:043 (1) - And here restart normal section.
03:18:086 (4) - New combo.

[EEeee's Hard]

Add EEeee on the tags.

02:22:000 (4) - New combo due to jump.
02:50:000 (10) - New combo.

fixed

This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Indestructi-Bubble!

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Alrighty, almost everything looks good but there's still one thing.
In EEeee's difficulty, the credits say "Beatmap by Amodeus" ;_;

What you can do is check the "Diff Specific" box in the other difficulties (under Design). Then delete the credits SB from EEeee's.
OR you can make an SB saying "Beatmap by EEeee" ;P

Awesome!
Rebubbled!

Still need a little bit of fine-tuning, unfortunately.

All the problems seem to relate to the Storyboard (or skin). XD

OK, so bear with me here...

Storyboards have a max dimension of 640x480, unless a scrolling image, where it can be 800x600. Therefore, I would like you to resize the following images:

credits.jpg
credits E5.jpg
go.png

For easiest results, simply halve the sizes or something (You know, go into Photoshop, size down the image by 50% or something). If you do that, you can simply go into all your Scaling commands and double them.

For example:

Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"go.png",320,240
 F,0,163437,164008,0,1
 S,0,163437,164008,0.1,0.6439999
 F,0,164008,164151,1,0

will become:

Sprite,Foreground,Centre,"go.png",320,240
 F,0,163437,164008,0,1
 S,0,163437,164008,0.1,1.2879998
 F,0,164008,164151,1,0

I haven't tested this myself, but it should work (I needed to do this for a storyboard I made myself).

In addition, you need to make the go.png Object that starts at offset 163437 difficulty exclusive to everything besides [X EZ]. (The go.png at 2:43)

Speaking of difficulty exclusive stuff, why not have your Amodeus credits in [X EZ] and [Normal]?

Next up, the following skin items are unneeded, at least to my memory. o3o

menu-back.png
star.png
selection-tab.png

A very enjoyable map otherwise. I had fun playing all the difficulties. Sorry about the long message...

Sorry for the delay. ;x;

General
I suggest renaming Normal to Medium and Insane to Hardest (the equivalent SFIV difficulties). Also, the slider ball doesn't flip when it reverses. This should be fixable by placing the SFIV skin's skin.ini file in the beatmap folder, but osu! seems to ignore it for some reason.

[X EZ]
00:54:875 to 01:10:298 - 15 seconds of nothing but spinners seems a little dull to me. Don't you think you could spice things up a bit?

[Hard]
00:09:999, 00:11:875 and 00:12:733 - Distance between previous and current slider is too short.
00:49:447 (3) - If possible, move it a little to the left to center the following hit circle between this slider and the next one.
01:55:733 and 02:04:875 - Move these sliders. It feels weird to have one slider's start point overlap with the previous slider and have another slider right afterwards without any overlap.

Pop.

Loginer wrote:

General
I suggest renaming Normal to Medium and Insane to Hardest (the equivalent SFIV difficulties). Also, the slider ball doesn't flip when it reverses. This should be fixable by placing the SFIV skin's skin.ini file in the beatmap folder, but osu! seems to ignore it for some reason. (What this is saying is that the slider ball doesn't change direction after reversing. Its still facing the same direction as when it first started. The skin.ini file needs to be fixed to correct this.)

[X EZ]
00:54:875 to 01:10:298 - 15 seconds of nothing but sliders spinners seems a little dull to me. Don't you think you could spice things up a bit? (What Loginer means is that having just spinners and breaks in this time frame shows some lack of creativity. Try using some sliders and a few notes to mix it up.)

[Hard]
00:09:999, 00:11:875 and 00:12:733 - Distance between previous and current slider is too short.
00:10:876 (5,6,1) - Too close together.
00:11:876 (2,3) - ^

Pop.

Also, to add on...

[Hard]

02:18:018 (3,4,5,6) - Not evenly spaced.
00:49:447 (3,1,2,3) - Do a recheck on the spacing here. The spacing between the note and the slider looks a bit off.

I also noticed some slight spacing fluctuations in this difficulty as well. If you're fighting with setting the spacing properly, try using the Alt + shift for finer adjustments.

very good map

rank it

star

Including the entire Street Fighter 4 skin is extremely redundant. You should probably remove pretty much all of it, since you set it as the preferred skin anyway, so people who have the skin will see it. If you'd rather include some elements so people who don't have the skin installed will see it, that's fine, but definitely go in and delete all the menu stuff and results screen stuff, since none of that appears at all in the map. Huge waste of space and it makes the map a much larger filesize than it needs to be.

You should remove the second "Fight!" SB element from the osb and make it difficulty-specific, so it doesn't appear in Easy. THe Credits E5 image doesn't seem to exist in the version I downloaded.

(ahh, looks like these were mostly pointed out already. I'm useless Still, you should be able to delete much more of the skin than Starrodkirby suggested)

fixed

[Hard]

00:01:587 (1) - What the..... where did this note come in from? Did it used to be at 00:16:875?
02:18:304 (5) - Need to make this closer to (4) so that the three notes look even together.

Not sure why the slider ball isn't flipping. You might have to doublecheck the skin coding again and see what's up with it.

@whymeman: I know my English isn't perfect, but was my post really so hard to understand that you felt the need to reword everything I said? It really grinds my gears when people pull crap like that.

whymeman wrote:

General
I suggest renaming Normal to Medium and Insane to Hardest (the equivalent SFIV difficulties). Also, the slider ball doesn't flip when it reverses. This should be fixable by placing the SFIV skin's skin.ini file in the beatmap folder, but osu! seems to ignore it for some reason. (What this is saying is that the slider ball doesn't change direction after reversing. Its still facing the same direction as when it first started. The skin.ini file needs to be fixed to correct this.)

No, what this is saying is "The skin.ini file isn't doing shit". I'm pretty sure this is a bug of some sort, so just let peppy worry about it.

Anyway, I've only checked the old problem areas, but you seem to have fixed all but one problem.

Loginer wrote:

General
01:55:733 and 02:04:875 - Move these sliders. It feels weird to have one slider's start point overlap with the previous slider and have another slider right afterwards without any overlap.

To clarify, this is what it currently looks like.
And this is what I think it should look like.

Skin.ini does nothing when placed in a map folder. This isn't a bug, it's a feature that has been requested a few times but not implemented.

It rocks!

Ranked!

Good song and map.

I want to say this map needs -10ms.