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It's something similar to real-time mapping, and it's very much not advisable...
It'll also take extensive work to add a seperate real-time mapping mode or something...
It'll also take extensive work to add a seperate real-time mapping mode or something...
I assume you have never made charts/maps in other rhythm games? Using record mode (ie. real time mapping while the song plays) is a good way to lay down the basics of the map, from which you then continue with the normal editing. Recording is by no means good by itself, but combined with normal editing it speeds up and eases map creation for some people. Not everyone likes to use it or is able to use if efficiently, but for those who can it makes the process so much better.Zekira wrote:
It's something similar to real-time mapping, and it's very much not advisable...
I still support user-mappable keyboard shortcuts for the editor. And yes, I support this as an addition to mappable shortcuts.
The idea I like out of this would be to make click+drag when placing hitcircles to automatically switch to creating a slider. That'd be neat.
There's an idea~awp wrote:
The idea I like out of this would be to make click+drag when placing hitcircles to automatically switch to creating a slider.
Don't know how about you, but I always map by tapping 20-seconds parts of map, then scrolling back and fixing misplaced notes, doing spacing work, adding hitsounds, combos etc. But I always start by letting music play and tapping.Zekira wrote:
It's something similar to real-time mapping, and it's very much not advisable...
Also, dowant easier creating of sliders.
Eh, I'm not sure about this. It would make mapping easier, but that's a blessing and a curse (see maps that are technically correct but have no soul because people just rushed them out carelessly)...
Also, wouldn't it be weird if you were mapping while Distance&Grid Snap was on or something? I mean, it would be very disorienting --- if you turn them off then chances are they are erroneous
+1 support
Think about it, we can already do what nazenaze suggests, but we can do that only using mouse.
Since i heard of people placing beats while playing the song in editor (actually i do that too) using Z/X or whatever keyboard key could be a great help (also, my mouse buttons are kinda hard to press and i'd love to see this implemented >.<)
Think about it, we can already do what nazenaze suggests, but we can do that only using mouse.
Since i heard of people placing beats while playing the song in editor (actually i do that too) using Z/X or whatever keyboard key could be a great help (also, my mouse buttons are kinda hard to press and i'd love to see this implemented >.<)
This is how I tried to map the first time I tried to make a beatmap~ Unfortunately I realized it couldn't work like that so I ended up making a really bad beatmap. If I had real-time mapping I could probably not need to press the rewind button all the time while mapping. Its like an instant rough-draft~ If you did it this way distance-snap could also be used in this. I honestly don't see why this wasn't there in the first place.
I hate pausing all the time just to map and rewinding all the time lags me when I map.
The on and off combined with distance snap really murdered my beatmapping style.
+support and serenity
I hate pausing all the time just to map and rewinding all the time lags me when I map.
The on and off combined with distance snap really murdered my beatmapping style.
+support and serenity
This could really be useful for experienced mappers so that they can place beats faster.
ME on the other hand... I'm so slow and never have any ideas ;A;
ME on the other hand... I'm so slow and never have any ideas ;A;
Wow, really nice idea. +support
I agree to drag slider part. It would be neat if certain keys works for x0.5 and x2 distance snaps to make jumps easier
A slider that looks like it was made in mspaint.awp wrote:
The idea I like out of this would be to make click+drag when placing hitcircles to automatically switch to creating a slider. That'd be neat.
You can already sort of do this by placing circles after hitting Play in the editor. The results are not pretty.
I'm changing my opinion on this to negative. Care more about your maps; faster is not always better. Any system to easily place objects while the song is playing would result in one or more of the following:
- The system being too slow to be efficient; nobody uses it
Poor recognition of note placement requires a lot of reworking of every single section
Every map made using the system ends up looking the same, and probably ugly
I've seen some mappers tap our just the beat for the notes (not spacing) while playing the song in the editor.
That's exactly how I map - tap to create "sketch" of placement of notes on timeline, then go back and place them graphically, add hitsounds, combos, fix anything that I tapped wrong. Ability to use z/x or to hold key to make slider would be just an improvement to already existing system.strager wrote:
I've seen some mappers tap our just the beat for the notes (not spacing) while playing the song in the editor.
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bumping, cause I still miss that feature :C
Mainly it's just like making keyboard to work the same way as mouse in the editor - just instead you can use two buttons, so I dont know why it should be rejected.
Mainly it's just like making keyboard to work the same way as mouse in the editor - just instead you can use two buttons, so I dont know why it should be rejected.
If you can play with z/x why not map with it? 
If you could map with z/x you could sketch out the movement of the beatmap too.
It provides a great way for beginners to map based on movement because having to pause and rewind and apply notes distracts you from that.
If you could map with z/x you could sketch out the movement of the beatmap too.
It provides a great way for beginners to map based on movement because having to pause and rewind and apply notes distracts you from that.
Just click with the mouse for now. Same thing, really. z/x already have bindings in the editor.
Clicking with mouse and, worse, with only one button sometimes forces you to pause or switch to 50% to place fast streams/stacks. Maybe make right button work like left one, instead of adding new combo marker? Or (yeah, I know you hate them) add a toggle?peppy wrote:
Just click with the mouse for now. Same thing, really.
If this was added, it would be a toggle, yes. No promises.
i love the idea with the slider 
ADD IT!
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ADD IT ALREADY!
ADD IT!
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ADD IT ALREADY!
mapping in realtime is usually sloppyMatma Rex wrote:
Clicking with mouse and, worse, with only one button sometimes forces you to pause or switch to 50% to place fast streams/stacks. Maybe make right button work like left one, instead of adding new combo marker? Or (yeah, I know you hate them) add a toggle? ;)
besides, just use the mousewheel ???
I really like this idea!
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This is the important thing we need and it should be exist. I'm bumping this one for more opinions hopefully.
+1 Support
+1 Support
+1 support your bump, a feature like this could be very useful indeed!