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Nobuo Uematsu - Calm Before the Storm

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Shulin
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 06 January 2015 at 19:43:19

Artist: Nobuo Uematsu
Title: Calm Before the Storm
Source: Final Fantasy X
Tags: silence sin masashi hamauzu junya nakano macalania woods ffx ps2 ps3 playstation square enix
BPM: 85
Filesize: 5887kb
Play Time: 02:49
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (2.18 stars, 248 notes)
  2. Normal (1.5 stars, 141 notes)
Download: Nobuo Uematsu - Calm Before the Storm
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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SuuYaa
This is the best Final Fantasy song to be mapped so far! (In my opinion)

You rock! Please make more! <3
Topic Starter
Shulin
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it :D
Sky Trias
Hey .. From #Modreqs

[Normal]
  1. 00:21:073 (5) - Repeat ?
  2. 00:30:250 - add a note
  3. 01:05:897 (2,3) - Ctrl + G and 01:06:603 (3,4) - Ctrl + G ?
  4. 02:17:191 (2) - move this to 02:16:838
  5. 02:17:897 - add a note
[Hard]

  • All Good :)
Hope This helping you , And GL :D
Topic Starter
Shulin

Sky Trias wrote:

Hey .. From #Modreqs

[Normal]
  1. 00:21:073 (5) - Repeat ? Hm, no I want some gaps in the rhythm
  2. 00:30:250 - add a note ^
  3. 01:05:897 (2,3) - Ctrl + G and 01:06:603 (3,4) - Ctrl + G ? That's cause an anti jump xD
  4. 02:17:191 (2) - move this to 02:16:838 Yeah I've done this ^^
  5. 02:17:897 - add a note Done
[Hard]

  • All Good :)
Hope This helping you , And GL :D
Thank you for the mod :)
kazumikos
Nice song, modding this at night... it feels like a party

[Hard]

  1. 01:19:309 (8) - imo finish at end works better than at 01:20:897 (1) -
  2. 01:58:838 (7) - long combo, cut it here?
  3. 02:39:779 (5) - same thought about finish
  4. *sniff
[Normal]

  1. 00:35:191 (2) - look not perfect lol how abt this?
  2. 01:20:720 (6) - well I think you know
  3. 01:49:661 (6,1) - how about this?
  4. 01:54:250 (4) - delete note?
  5. 02:16:838 (2,3,4,5) - this pattern makes me feel kinda lost, how about making 02:17:897 (3,4) - into a slider, and then a slider at 02:18:956 (4) - ?
All are just suggestions. Your map is too good already >_>
Topic Starter
Shulin

kazumikos wrote:

Nice song, modding this at night... it feels like a party

[Hard]

  1. 01:19:309 (8) - imo finish at end works better than at 01:20:897 (1) - Not sure I agree but I'll think about it xD
  2. 01:58:838 (7) - long combo, cut it here? Yep, done
  3. 02:39:779 (5) - same thought about finish I'm thinking! xD
  4. *sniff
[Normal]
  1. 00:35:191 (2) - look not perfect lol how abt this? I tried but just send me the .osu =P
  2. 01:20:720 (6) - well I think you know I do
  3. 01:49:661 (6,1) - how about this? Done something similar
  4. 01:54:250 (4) - delete note? Nahhh
  5. 02:16:838 (2,3,4,5) - this pattern makes me feel kinda lost, how about making 02:17:897 (3,4) - into a slider, and then a slider at 02:18:956 (4) - ?[/color] Okay did a different pattern
All are just suggestions. Your map is too good already >_>
Thanks kazumi hope you didn't fall asleep ;)
FlobuFlobs
Wow nice, good luck with the map <3 Star'd
Topic Starter
Shulin
Thanks FlobuFlobs!! :D
Pereira006
I didn't notice bancho is back lol and HI!!!!!!!!!!

[normal]
hitsound:
  1. 00:26:720 (2) - I'm sure you are missing add finish in end slider, because I can see you have done other pattern hitsound example 00:18:250 (2), so I think this is missing. Also there melody very high that I can hear
  2. 00:55:309 (1) - missing add clap in start slider but finish stay is same I explain was 00:26:720 (2)
  3. 01:03:779 (1) - ^ same
  4. 01:12:250 (1) - ^ same
  5. 01:25:132 (b) - missing add break ? like hard ?
  6. 01:56:720 (2) - Missing add finish in start slider and clap in end
  7. 02:00:956 (2) - Missing add finish in start slider
Gameplay:
  1. 00:00:250 (1,2) - just sugeestion Can you better blanket ? like this this http://puu.sh/bRayc/6c3fe98e48.jpg is better than this blanket IMO
  2. 01:25:132 (T) - could be remove this timing, because this don't have to do....
[Hard]
Song setup
  1. I feel the Od could be -1 is more better than +1 ÎMO
Hitsound:
  1. 00:29:897 (1) - missing add finish in end slider, you did before pattern and other diff's
  2. 01:41:897 (1) - I feel, in start, really need add clap, there melody and piano are really high, could be add clap in start
  3. 01:52:485 (3) - Missing add clap in start slider, because pattern before have done and this don't have, so I think you missing this one
  4. 02:02:367 (5) - missing add clap is same I did explain before like 01:52:485 (3) and normal diff
Gameplay:
  1. 01:25:132 (T) - could be remove this timing, because this don't have to do.... (same normal)
  2. 00:46:838 (7,1) - could be put new combo color in (7) and remove in (1) because, in 00:46:838 I feel melody and piano is change so is better a lot
  3. 01:41:191 (4,5,1) - the (5) is really don't fit with this music, the melody is kindy super weak Can't hear that IMO, so (4,5,1) need change ryhthm part, for better this http://puu.sh/bRfzC/09c341a806.jpg or remove note that (5) or change you own IMO
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The gameplay is really good and just suggestion, but hitsound is high suggestion so you better check carefully, is just missing your pattern
Any question ask me
I wish good luck your map
Topic Starter
Shulin

Pereira006 wrote:

I didn't notice bancho is back lol and HI!!!!!!!!!!

[normal]
hitsound:
  1. 00:26:720 (2) - I'm sure you are missing add finish in end slider, because I can see you have done other pattern hitsound example 00:18:250 (2), so I think this is missing. Also there melody very high that I can hear Fixed
  2. 00:55:309 (1) - missing add clap in start slider but finish stay is same I explain was 00:26:720 (2) I've decided to remove the clap from the finish so this is consistent now
  3. 01:03:779 (1) - ^ same ^
  4. 01:12:250 (1) - ^ same ^
  5. 01:25:132 (b) - missing add break ? like hard ? Fixed, added break
  6. 01:56:720 (2) - Missing add finish in start slider and clap in end For emphasis I've decided to add finish and whistle at the start for this kiai part; the end is missing a clap so I can emphasize the next note (if that makes sense lol)
  7. 02:00:956 (2) - Missing add finish in start slider Done, I haven't added a finish to 02:02:367 (3) - because I think it's too much
Gameplay:
  1. 00:00:250 (1,2) - just sugeestion Can you better blanket ? like this this http://puu.sh/bRayc/6c3fe98e48.jpg is better than this blanket IMO Done
  2. 01:25:132 (T) - could be remove this timing, because this don't have to do.... Why not xD
[Hard]
Song setup
  1. I feel the Od could be -1 is more better than +1 ÎMO Yeah, -1 OD done
Hitsound:
  1. 00:29:897 (1) - missing add finish in end slider, you did before pattern and other diff's Added finish at the end
  2. 01:41:897 (1) - I feel, in start, really need add clap, there melody and piano are really high, could be add clap in start Done
  3. 01:52:485 (3) - Missing add clap in start slider, because pattern before have done and this don't have, so I think you missing this one Added
  4. 02:02:367 (5) - missing add clap is same I did explain before like 01:52:485 (3) and normal diff Wasn't 100% sure on this one but I guess it works so added
Gameplay:
  1. 01:25:132 (T) - could be remove this timing, because this don't have to do.... (same normal) Done
  2. 00:46:838 (7,1) - could be put new combo color in (7) and remove in (1) because, in 00:46:838 I feel melody and piano is change so is better a lot Done
  3. 01:41:191 (4,5,1) - the (5) is really don't fit with this music, the melody is kindy super weak Can't hear that IMO, so (4,5,1) need change ryhthm part, for better this http://puu.sh/bRfzC/09c341a806.jpg or remove note that (5) or change you own IMO I think this is fine because it fits the rhythm well and even though the melody is weak it's still there xD
The gameplay is really good and just suggestion, but hitsound is high suggestion so you better check carefully, is just missing your pattern
Any question ask me
I wish good luck your map
Thanks for the thoughtful mod! I've been through the hitsounds and hopefully they're more consistent now, I've tried to tailor it to each part of the song so whilst the hitsounds are not 100% consistent it's better ^_^
Lust
hit me up when you are ready to move this forward
Lust
double post because why the hell not

[General]
  1. Be sure to delete the .osb in the folder, since you are not using one
  2. A song like this doesn't really need a kiai IMO. Just makes a calm song look flashy and it doesn't quite sit right with me
[Normal]
Pretty diff! Most of this is just consistent spacing errors that should be ironed out especially when taking into consideration that this is the lowest diff
  1. 00:00:250 (1,2) - The spacing is a bit too large here to be in the easiest difficulty. Lower the spacing to be consistent with the other patterns (1.40x). You can also make a perfect blanket out of the slider, it would make the pattern more clean IMO
  2. 00:10:838 (3,4) - Opportunity to make a perfect blanket here if you so chose. You can use 4's approach circle to assist you with this
  3. 00:21:073 (5) - I think tacking a clap at the end of this slider would be appropriate to the music
  4. 00:22:132 (1,2,3) - Maybe you can squeeze by with this one, but tbh I feel like these are a bit too far apart spacing wise
  5. 00:31:661 (2) - Same clap suggestion as 00:21:073 (5) -, a clap on the end would work well
  6. 01:03:779 (1,2,3) - Neat pattern here! Stuff like this I can appreciate
  7. 01:20:897 (1) - I'd recommend moving this spinner to 01:21:073. Gives newer players time to react to the spinner as well as giving a nice audio cue
  8. 01:43:309 (3,4) - The spacing between these objects is too large. To fix this I'd recommend you making a perfect blanket pattern with 01:41:897 (1,2,3) - and it should end out with 1.4x spacing
  9. 01:46:132 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Stacking may not be the best idea. With this bpm and AR this could be slightly hard to read for newer players. This is a cool pattern though, and honestly I don't really mind so its up to you here
  10. 02:23:544 (4,5) - These are a bit too close and 02:23:897 (5,1) - these are a bit too far
  11. 02:24:250 (1,2) - Another pattern that could really benefit from reduced spacing. 1.56x is way too much
[Hard]
Really clean and neat looking hard. Nothing really to say here!
  1. 01:33:426 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1) - This was really cool, I miss patterns like these
Call me back!
Topic Starter
Shulin

Lust wrote:

double post because why the hell not

[General]
  1. Be sure to delete the .osb in the folder, since you are not using one Done
  2. A song like this doesn't really need a kiai IMO. Just makes a calm song look flashy and it doesn't quite sit right with me Well if the song is to have kiai that's the best place imo, so I thought about it and played with it both on and off and I think I agree with you so I removed the kiai =P
[Normal]
Pretty diff! Most of this is just consistent spacing errors that should be ironed out especially when taking into consideration that this is the lowest diff
  1. 00:00:250 (1,2) - The spacing is a bit too large here to be in the easiest difficulty. Lower the spacing to be consistent with the other patterns (1.40x). You can also make a perfect blanket out of the slider, it would make the pattern more clean IMO Snapped with x1.4, I think I improved the blanket not sure lol
  2. 00:10:838 (3,4) - Opportunity to make a perfect blanket here if you so chose. You can use 4's approach circle to assist you with this I think I improved it
  3. 00:21:073 (5) - I think tacking a clap at the end of this slider would be appropriate to the music Done
  4. 00:22:132 (1,2,3) - Maybe you can squeeze by with this one, but tbh I feel like these are a bit too far apart spacing wise I resnapped it with x1.4
  5. 00:31:661 (2) - Same clap suggestion as 00:21:073 (5) -, a clap on the end would work well Done
  6. 01:03:779 (1,2,3) - Neat pattern here! Stuff like this I can appreciate Thanks ^^
  7. 01:20:897 (1) - I'd recommend moving this spinner to 01:21:073. Gives newer players time to react to the spinner as well as giving a nice audio cue Okay I've changed this and 02:03:250 (1) - and I've also changed it on Hard
  8. 01:43:309 (3,4) - The spacing between these objects is too large. To fix this I'd recommend you making a perfect blanket pattern with 01:41:897 (1,2,3) - and it should end out with 1.4x spacing I've reduced the spacing a little but it was pretty much at x1.4 already, any closer and I feel the pattern will be really ugly and harder to read / play. Hopefully the blanket has been improved a little too
  9. 01:46:132 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Stacking may not be the best idea. With this bpm and AR this could be slightly hard to read for newer players. This is a cool pattern though, and honestly I don't really mind so its up to you here I think it should be manageable since the rhythm is straight forward the only other stack in the map is also 1/1, that and I wanted to move away from a triangle pattern like 00:46:838 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - here
  10. 02:23:544 (4,5) - These are a bit too close and 02:23:897 (5,1) - these are a bit too far Fixed
  11. 02:24:250 (1,2) - Another pattern that could really benefit from reduced spacing. 1.56x is way too much I fixed this while doing the last one, it should all be x1.4 now
[Hard]
Really clean and neat looking hard. Nothing really to say here!
  1. 01:33:426 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4,5,1) - This was really cool, I miss patterns like these Thanks

    Only thing I've changed in Hard is that spinner I mentioned in Normal 01:21:073 (1) -
Call me back!
Thanks for the mod Lust :D
Lust
Looking good, Bubbled!
Topic Starter
Shulin
Thanks :D
Hinsvar
Hello! Random bubble check.

...I am honestly not sure if this should be bubbled right now, though. The map can be slightly be more polished. It is pretty okay-ish as is, and definitely rankable, but the amount of mods is too low for a bubbled map.

No, I am not saying that mod amount correlates to the quality of the modded map, but it'd be nice to get more opinions before this is bubbled, right? This looks pretty rushed to me, honestly.

Well, after saying that, let's begin the mod.

*Bolded = Unrankable or very, very strongly suggested; red = Highly suggested or questionable (still weaker than the bolded ones); black = Minor suggestions/rants; blue = Notes/advices to avoid/fix repeated problems. Also note that hitsound suggestions on a diff may apply on similar parts of the song and the other diffs of the mapset.

>General
  1. Consider decreasing the BG's filesize? 825 KB seems to be very bloated for a background file, IMO...
  2. Use a custom silenced soft-sliderslide for the entire song? The current slider slide's sound is unfitting with how calm the song is, so it'd be better if the soft-sliderslide were silenced. Use the silent hitsound file in the Ranking Criteria wiki page for this!
  3. Try 240ms for the offset (-10ms from the current one)? The objects seem to be a little off overall, IMO.
  4. 02:11:544 - 02:49:661 - Would be cool to add a (or keep the, based of what I've seen from Lust's mod) kiai time here since the music does get stronger there. Up to you, though, since this is indeed a calm song, but the increase of the power in the music here is noticeable.
>Normal
  1. 00:00:250 (1,2) - Uh, what are you trying to make, exactly? If you want to make a blanket, it can be done better. Right now, it looks kinda weird. (While we're here, some blankets are off in this diff, and probably the Hard diff too. Review every blanket pattern please!)
  2. 00:19:309 - Not sure why would you place a finish here... The instrument that plays on this tick doesn't even resemble a cymbal. Try removing the cymbal and use a whistle instead. That fits way better. (Applies for similar cases.)
  3. 02:23:897 (5,1) - Try to make (5) follow (1)'s curve as if you're making a blanket pattern by moving (1) to (120,352)? That'd look nicer.
>Hard
  1. 00:39:073 (1,2,3) - Umm, I know it isn't that noticeable, but the spacing is inconsistent, and I don't think the inconsistency is necessary for any reason here.
  2. 02:28:485 (1) - Don't you think it'd flow better if the slider was made to be like this? But okay, this'll break the flow (a little) to 02:29:191 (2) so you might have to readjust the notes a little.
So yeah, this is a pretty simple and nice map (not that there's anything bad with it), but I'd like to see more feedback on the quality of this map in the form of mods from experienced modders, preferably around 2-3 or so, and of course preferably detailed and helpful ones. It's pretty much okay to bubble at this state, but it'd be nicer to see opinions from more people. Also, the blanket patterns can still be improved; that's a problem that appears a lot throughout the mapset.

I hope you don't feel annoyed by this (sorry if you do), but I'd just like to make sure we don't rush things...

Get back to me once you're done with the mods (and make sure you do it before November 29th).

Good luck on the way! 8-)
kazumikos
Some maps get like tons of mods and still not ready for bubble, some are worth being ranked even without a single mod. There is a reason for that, don't you think? I'm not trying to specific this map to the latter case or anything, I just don't agree with your point that "the amount of mods is too low for a bubbled map". If the map deserves a bubble for its quality then it should be bubbled. Or else why would we bother practicing to make our maps perfect anyway? To shorten the amount of mods and time needed before ranking, no?

Getting more mods may seem reasonable but in many cases the mappers have to compromise with the mod just to get over it. Lots of mods do not guarantee the map getting any better, especially when the definition of "quality map" and "helpful mod" varies from person to person.
Lust
Are you kidding me? What is the point in prolonging the pending state of this map because YOU feel like it needs more opinions when it is clearly already ready? Thats a fucking joke. Hell you did not even point out anything that was even remotely significant. BG is too high in file size? Shit the world is going to end. The blankets are messed up? Does the mapper even care for blankets? Behavior like this is sickening.

Seems to me you just popped this bubble to take advatange of the new BAT ranking system, and if this is the case - shame on you.
Hinsvar
Ugh, I know this will happen.

I would let this map pass and rank it if it was so perfect I can't mention any problem. The problem is... there are a few right now. With such a low amount of feedback, and since I can still see some room for improvement (although admittedly not much, but it's there), I would like to hear a little more opinion. I don't ask much because I do know and realize the map's quality, but I still ask because it can be made a little better before bubbling.

There, that's my reason. Again, I already said that mod amount =/= map quality. (Sounds contradictory due to the way I act here, I know, but I'm not talkint about this map.)

I do understand your concern though. Thanks for the words; glad to know another person that cares for stuff like this.

EDIT: Posted this before I saw Lust's post. No, I'm not doing this because of the bonus. I know that the stuff I mentioned was pretty minor, and some might even seem to be extremely trivial, but I can still see this improved a little. I'm not trying to say that it's wrong for you to bubble this by popping your bubble, but I believe this can be better.

And uh, I asked Natsu and Lexia's opinion before doing this just to make sure. This is not based on my belief alone.

I'm sorry for causing you guys to lash out and rant at me. It's okay anyway; don't worry.
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