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anaxii
1. Accuracy is overrated and doesn't represent the true skill of a player.

2. People with farm maps in their top plays are not necessarily bad at the game.

3. A player who cares about PP is a player who doesn't really enjoy the game.

4. Touchscreen players deserve more recognition.

5. HR should have a bigger score multiplier than HD.

6. You cannot be a good player if you are a one trick.

7. Relax and Autopilot should have their own global rankings for them on Stable because they're useless on their own.

8. A bad player is a player who compares themselves to others.

9. Sometimes, playing less osu! can make you good at the game.

10. Osu! should have a story mode to teach neophytes how to play the game.
WitherMite
OT trends are leaking
Topic Starter
anaxii

WitherMite wrote:

OT trends are leaking
We're taking over G&R now
Stomiks
90% of these are popular opinions
Topic Starter
anaxii
Baited
Stomiks
Not sure what you mean by that
15C
these are cold ass takes
AccountWontWork
1. tame
2. known
3. not really
4. no
5. literally everyone wants that
6. no
7. decent
8. not really
9. true
10. actual good idea
Stomiks

AccountWontWork wrote:

10. actual good idea
Yeah pretty much agree on that since it's expected that most players are gonna be like in the single digits-puberty age so I don't really expect them to figure it out in an instant
muyabells
> 1. Accuracy is overrated and doesn't represent the true skill of a player.
It only represents the consistency of a player.

> 2. People with farm maps in their top plays are not necessarily bad at the game.
Warm take. I have a slight hatred for farm maps.

> 3. A player who cares about PP is a player who doesn't really enjoy the game.
People can enjoy the game however they want.

> 4. Touchscreen players deserve more recognition.
Cold. I think everyone respects touchscreen players after Bonk's appearance.

> 5. HR should have a bigger score multiplier than HD.
HD should be a mod that increases score multiplier as the AR decreases.

> 6. You cannot be a good player if you are a one trick.
I wholeheartedly disagree with this, since mrekk exists. =~=

> 7. Relax and Autopilot should have their own global rankings for them on Stable because they're useless on their own.
Agreed.

> 8. A bad player is a player who compares themselves to others.
Agreed. (me.)

> 9. Sometimes, playing less osu! can make you good at the game.
With balance, yes.

> 10. Osu! should have a story mode to teach neophytes how to play the game.
A story mode would certainly be interesting. We can finally use the mascots of this game!
Topic Starter
anaxii

muyabells wrote:

> 4. Touchscreen players deserve more recognition.
Cold. I think everyone respects touchscreen players after Bonk's appearance.
I'm not talking about respect but about recognition. The few players who know about touchscreen respect them of course, but it's still not a playstyle that most osu! players would think of first.

muyabells wrote:

> 6. You cannot be a good player if you are a one trick.
I wholeheartedly disagree with this, since mrekk exists. =~=
But mrekk also plays with HR, HD and NM sometimes. It's just that HDDT is big PP.
Romurujouzu
> 1. Accuracy is overrated and doesn't represent the true skill of a player.
> It only represents the consistency of a player.
Consistency is skill; high accuracy means a player is very comfortable with a map, so I think its very good at representing skill floor (assuming the map isn't low OD and/or sotarks-tier farm). But its true that it doesn't represent skill cap.

> 2. People with farm maps in their top plays are not necessarily bad at the game.
As long as they have non-farm maps too.

> 3. A player who cares about PP is a player who doesn't really enjoy the game.
Caring as in its the only reason why someone plays a map? Definitely. Caring as in someone wants their impressive plays to be rewarded? No, that's why people haven't switched to lazer yet.

> 6. You cannot be a good player if you are a one trick.
You cannot tell me Peter FamilyGuy is not a good player.

> 8. A bad player is a player who compares themselves to others.
Not really.
Topic Starter
anaxii
Guys, a one trick is a player who only plays with a specific mods combination without using others mods. Mrekk and Peter FamilyGuy (Aetrna) are not one trick at all because they play with others mods too, it's just that almost all their top plays are HDDT.

A one trick is a player who's only good with only one specific mods combination.
kaedori
pretty much every aetrna score has dt in it ;ike legit i've never seen them play anything other than speed
Stomiks

haxyie bf wrote:

pretty much every aetrna score has dt in it ;ike legit i've never seen them play anything other than speed
It's like the one thing he's known for. I can't imagine not living up to it imo.
Topic Starter
anaxii

haxyie bf wrote:

pretty much every aetrna score has dt in it ;ike legit i've never seen them play anything other than speed
He's a speed player so obviously, most of his plays are DT because it increases the BPM, but he can also plays with NM and HR speed if he wants.
Rezq Gokou

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

it's still not a playstyle that most osu! players would think of first.
except, if they play osu!lazer on their phone/pad. It's good, definitely better than my playstyle lol
Topic Starter
anaxii

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

it's still not a playstyle that most osu! players would think of first.
except, if they play osu!lazer on their phone/pad. It's good, definitely better than my playstyle lol
Yeah sure why not! But your playstyle is goated tho
Rezq Gokou

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

it's still not a playstyle that most osu! players would think of first.
except, if they play osu!lazer on their phone/pad. It's good, definitely better than my playstyle lol
Yeah sure why not! But your playstyle is goated tho
you praise me too much, I'm not even good
Topic Starter
anaxii

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

it's still not a playstyle that most osu! players would think of first.
except, if they play osu!lazer on their phone/pad. It's good, definitely better than my playstyle lol
Yeah sure why not! But your playstyle is goated tho
you praise me too much, I'm not even good
Awww no worries, you'll be the best touchpad player as Stomiks said before :D
kujubuo
1. Accuracy is overrated and doesn't represent the true skill of a player.
depends on what you mean? if you are saying a person who has bad acc doesnt mean is a bad player its kinds correct, but yeah bad accuracy means you cant really aim or you cant really tap

3. A player who cares about PP is a player who doesn't really enjoy the game.
that is a pretty shit take ngl
Topic Starter
anaxii

kujubuo wrote:

depends on what you mean? if you are saying a person who has bad acc doesnt mean is a bad player its kinds correct, but yeah bad accuracy means you cant really aim or you cant really tap
What I mean is that you can have a bad hit accuracy and be good at the game, or a good hit accuracy and be washed even if both players have the same global ranks.

kujubuo wrote:

that is a pretty shit take ngl
Ewwww disgusting PP farmer 🤮
kujubuo

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

kujubuo wrote:

depends on what you mean? if you are saying a person who has bad acc doesnt mean is a bad player its kinds correct, but yeah bad accuracy means you cant really aim or you cant really tap
What I mean is that you can have a bad hit accuracy and be good at the game, or a good hit accuracy and be washed even if both players have the same global ranks.

kujubuo wrote:

that is a pretty shit take ngl
Ewwww disgusting PP farmer 🤮
you are exactly right about accuracy
Aizuuya
1. True, as an acc player it is overrated. 15k player who loses to 80k players in multi because I cant combo shit and all I have is acc.

2. So fucking true I hate everyone who thinks otherwise.

3. Not necessarily. Sometimes that could be true, but most of the time isn't. If they really didn't enjoy the game they wouldn't be playing.

4. So true getting acc on touchscreen is crazy and reading is pretty hard

5. Yes please add this into the game now peppy

6. Again not really true, being good at one skillset means you are a good player. Just not in regards other than that skillset.

7. Don't have an opinion on this

8. Sometimes this can be the case but comparing yourself to others can push you to improve, and just because they do doesn't make them a bad player. I can guarantee there are many players who compare themselves to others that are better than you.

9. True. Playing too much can give you hand injuries and such, and breaks will make you come back stronger than before.

10. osu! story mode could honestly be pretty cool the more I think about it
Voidedosu

Aizuuya wrote:

10. osu! story mode could honestly be pretty cool the more I think about it
Just a more in-depth explanation of streams, jumps, what makes a map a stream/tech/jump map, basic stream/jump patterns at low/moderate bpms, and map suggestions.

Though it sounds like a pain to storyboard it all like the new tutorial, I think it'd be worth the investment.
Rezq Gokou

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

10. osu! story mode could honestly be pretty cool the more I think about it
ngl, makes me wanna map it
Behrauder
I used google translate for almost everything, sorry.

1. Accuracy is overrated and doesn't represent the true skill of a player.
Accuracy is not overrated, but doesn't represent the true skill of a player, since other skills are also important.

2. People with farm maps in their top plays are not necessarily bad at the game.
What does it mean to be bad at the game? If hypothetically someone in the top 50 only has farm maps in the top plays, and he decides to play a marathon map, he will play infinitely better than anyone else, I cannot simply say that he is bad, of course this does not only apply to who is in the top 50.

3. A player who cares about PP is a player who doesn't really enjoy the game.
There is no right way to enjoy the game, someone who only cares about seeing the pp going up can enjoy it so much that he can enjoy the game more than anyone else.

4. Touchscreen players deserve more recognition.
You said "it's still not a playstyle that most osu! players would think of first.", but I tried to play osu!lazer on my year-old A23, and it's just awful to play. For someone to consider playing on mobile, it has to be playable first, but if someone becomes good at it, that person will be recognized for it.

5. HR should have a bigger score multiplier than HD.
I think so but I'm not sure.

6. You cannot be a good player if you are a one trick.
Again, what does it mean to be a good player? if hypothetically someone in the top 50 who never played anything but NM decides to play DT, he will be infinitely better than anyone in DT, being a good player is subjective, and if you train with NM, you will consequently improve in all mods too , of course, you don't necessarily need to have NM as the default for this.

7. Relax and Autopilot should have their own global rankings for them on Stable because they're useless on their own.
this encourages insecure people who doubt their ability to play the game to use these mods and be content with it. as long as these two mods don't give pp, not even in a separate rank, those same people will take a break and come back again instead of being stuck using these mods forever.

8. A bad player is a player who compares themselves to others.
If a player is skilled in osu! and he only got where he is by comparing himself to others, and he's perfectly happy with that, and enjoying the game, which is extremely possible, I wouldn't automatically classify him as a bad player.

9. Sometimes, playing less osu! can make you good at the game.
I say from experience: yes, whenever I'm not playing osu!, I imagine a song in my head and start tapping the 2 fingers as if I were in Autopilot mode, on a difficulty impossible for me to play in the game, always keeping the pace, I used to do it especially in months when I played very little osu!, and I always came back better, but now I just can't stop doing it, and the result? It improves me even without me playing, this helped especially with streams and accuracy. but of course that's not what you meant, anyway, here's the tip. ;)

10. Osu! should have a story mode to teach neophytes how to play the game.
I liked the idea.
Stomiks

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

10. osu! story mode could honestly be pretty cool the more I think about it
ngl, makes me wanna map it
I wonder how'd you go about it. I have the idea of using breaks to explain the story and the osu characters and the gameplay being the... gameplay.
Rezq Gokou

Stomiks wrote:

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

10. osu! story mode could honestly be pretty cool the more I think about it
ngl, makes me wanna map it
I wonder how'd you go about it. I have the idea of using breaks to explain the story and the osu characters and the gameplay being the... gameplay.
I'm going to make the concept first, then maybe I will make a thread in Beatmap Projects and also make the music...
muyabells

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

muyabells wrote:

> 6. You cannot be a good player if you are a one trick.
I wholeheartedly disagree with this, since mrekk exists. =~=
But mrekk also plays with HR, HD and NM sometimes. It's just that HDDT is big PP.
Too overrated.
Topic Starter
anaxii

Stomiks wrote:

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

10. osu! story mode could honestly be pretty cool the more I think about it
ngl, makes me wanna map it
I wonder how'd you go about it. I have the idea of using breaks to explain the story and the osu characters and the gameplay being the... gameplay.
Ngl in my opinion, I wanted an osu! story mode like it's one world with several maps inside. Each maps will explain a specific mechanic of the game so the neophytes can understand more instead of making one map for everything. There would be 4 worlds for each game modes.

It would also be an opportunity for the mascots (Pippi, Yuzu, Mocha and Mani & Mari) to introduce themselves and teach the new players how to play the game.
Stomiks

Rezq wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

10. osu! story mode could honestly be pretty cool the more I think about it
ngl, makes me wanna map it
I wonder how'd you go about it. I have the idea of using breaks to explain the story and the osu characters and the gameplay being the... gameplay.
I'm going to make the concept first, then maybe I will make a thread in Beatmap Projects and also make the music...
That's pretty hype. Love to see it happen if you can.
Rezq Gokou

Stomiks wrote:

Rezq wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

10. osu! story mode could honestly be pretty cool the more I think about it
ngl, makes me wanna map it
I wonder how'd you go about it. I have the idea of using breaks to explain the story and the osu characters and the gameplay being the... gameplay.
I'm going to make the concept first, then maybe I will make a thread in Beatmap Projects and also make the music...
That's pretty hype. Love to see it happen if you can.
I still succ at mapping and music making though, so don't place your expectation too high (except someone want to help me)
Romurujouzu

Rezq wrote:

I'm going to make the concept first, then maybe I will make a thread in Beatmap Projects and also make the music...
You know a story mode is already in development right? https://github.com/ppy/osu/discussions/22270
kujubuo

Romurujouzu wrote:

Rezq wrote:

I'm going to make the concept first, then maybe I will make a thread in Beatmap Projects and also make the music...
You know a story mode is already in development right? https://github.com/ppy/osu/discussions/22270
average rekunan w
Topic Starter
anaxii

kujubuo wrote:

Romurujouzu wrote:

Rezq wrote:

I'm going to make the concept first, then maybe I will make a thread in Beatmap Projects and also make the music...
You know a story mode is already in development right? https://github.com/ppy/osu/discussions/22270
average rekunan w
I'm waiting pog
-Crazy Frog
1. this does not even make sense
2. nobody thinks they are bad
3. that is not true at all and you have no idea what it means to enjoy something
4. only if they make cool scores
5. cold take
6. cold take
7. yes
8. not true
9. breaks can help but you won't become good at the game by playing less
10. there is already a tutorial
Topic Starter
anaxii

-Crazy Frog wrote:

10. there is already a tutorial
osu! tutorial is not osu! story mode
Behrauder

Behrauder wrote:

7. Relax and Autopilot should have their own global rankings for them on Stable because they're useless on their own.
this encourages insecure people who doubt their ability to play the game to use these mods and be content with it. as long as these two mods don't give pp, not even in a separate rank, those same people will take a break and come back again instead of being stuck using these mods forever.
I think what I said about the 7 was a hot take.
Topic Starter
anaxii

Behrauder wrote:

Behrauder wrote:

7. Relax and Autopilot should have their own global rankings for them on Stable because they're useless on their own.
this encourages insecure people who doubt their ability to play the game to use these mods and be content with it. as long as these two mods don't give pp, not even in a separate rank, those same people will take a break and come back again instead of being stuck using these mods forever.
I think what I said about the 7 was a hot take.
I swear you've got hotter takes than me LMAOOO
Happy Satoko
This isn't a community-based game, it has volunteers who work for free, which is completely different. No matter how unpopular, everything is ultimately decided by peppy, who is an out of touch grifter. The game will die if he doesn't pass the torch to someone else.
Rezq Gokou

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

10. osu! story mode could honestly be pretty cool the more I think about it
ngl, makes me wanna map it
I wonder how'd you go about it. I have the idea of using breaks to explain the story and the osu characters and the gameplay being the... gameplay.
Ngl in my opinion, I wanted an osu! story mode like it's one world with several maps inside. Each maps will explain a specific mechanic of the game so the neophytes can understand more instead of making one map for everything. There would be 4 worlds for each game modes.

It would also be an opportunity for the mascots (Pippi, Yuzu, Mocha and Mani & Mari) to introduce themselves and teach the new players how to play the game.
I can't map other gamemodes though, so if I make one i will just make one explaining map types.
Lp9
Mapping increases your reading skills

source: it worked kinda for me xd
Topic Starter
anaxii

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Rezq wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

10. osu! story mode could honestly be pretty cool the more I think about it
ngl, makes me wanna map it
I wonder how'd you go about it. I have the idea of using breaks to explain the story and the osu characters and the gameplay being the... gameplay.
Ngl in my opinion, I wanted an osu! story mode like it's one world with several maps inside. Each maps will explain a specific mechanic of the game so the neophytes can understand more instead of making one map for everything. There would be 4 worlds for each game modes.

It would also be an opportunity for the mascots (Pippi, Yuzu, Mocha and Mani & Mari) to introduce themselves and teach the new players how to play the game.
I can't map other gamemodes though, so if I make one i will just make one explaining map types.
You can just make one for standard, no need to do the others game modes!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Lp9 wrote:

Mapping increases your reading skills

source: it worked kinda for me xd
It also worked for me YEP
jaredlol123

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

1. Accuracy is overrated and doesn't represent the true skill of a player.

2. People with farm maps in their top plays are not necessarily bad at the game.

3. A player who cares about PP is a player who doesn't really enjoy the game.

4. Touchscreen players deserve more recognition.

5. HR should have a bigger score multiplier than HD.

6. You cannot be a good player if you are a one trick.

7. Relax and Autopilot should have their own global rankings for them on Stable because they're useless on their own.

8. A bad player is a player who compares themselves to others.

9. Sometimes, playing less osu! can make you good at the game.

10. Osu! should have a story mode to teach neophytes how to play the game.
Reason for #10 is weird, you can learn about the game through the tutorials and guides. But a story mode would be interesting, it doesn't have to be specifically about osu.
Topic Starter
anaxii

jaredlol123 wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

1. Accuracy is overrated and doesn't represent the true skill of a player.

2. People with farm maps in their top plays are not necessarily bad at the game.

3. A player who cares about PP is a player who doesn't really enjoy the game.

4. Touchscreen players deserve more recognition.

5. HR should have a bigger score multiplier than HD.

6. You cannot be a good player if you are a one trick.

7. Relax and Autopilot should have their own global rankings for them on Stable because they're useless on their own.

8. A bad player is a player who compares themselves to others.

9. Sometimes, playing less osu! can make you good at the game.

10. Osu! should have a story mode to teach neophytes how to play the game.
Reason for #10 is weird, you can learn about the game through the tutorials and guides. But a story mode would be interesting, it doesn't have to be specifically about osu.
Yeah, I also wanted an osu! story mode so new players can know the lore.
Stomiks

Happy Satoko wrote:

This isn't a community-based game, it has volunteers who work for free, which is completely different. No matter how unpopular, everything is ultimately decided by peppy, who is an out of touch grifter. The game will die if he doesn't pass the torch to someone else.
lmao he probably could just shut the game down after he's done just like push
Topic Starter
anaxii

Happy Satoko wrote:

The game will die if he doesn't pass the torch to someone else.
The worst thing is that it's totally true...
Aireunaeus

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

8. A bad player is a player who compares themselves to others.
literally me 😭😭😭😭
Jacques Chirac
except the 3rd one I see nothing hot there
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