[resolved] Glitch: Replay timings

kozuka

Joined June 2013

kozuka 2014-01-02T04:14:47+00:00

Kinda hard to tell from the screenshots but if you watch the replays it's definitely inhuman. I saw rrtyui's replay before you posted this and was also confused... assumed it was just a replay glitch (had no idea about this multiple of 100bpm thing).

As for whether it's a glitch or hack on www's part I have no idea but it's definitely not how www would have timed his presses.

Icyteru

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Icyteru 2014-01-02T04:23:00+00:00

Kyou-kun wrote:
[AirCoN] wrote:
Hmm, I have seen a hack that produces inhuman looking timing bars, but it looks nothing like the image you linked, since it's not "perfect" enough. It does have some odd spacing, but afaik, if you're accurate enough, it's possible to be consistently early/late.
No human would get results like in those replays, Pony Swag especially. Note that there are some spaces that are never filled in.

AFAIK, that's because the blue lines are only for the last combo or so, and fade pretty quickly, so it's a limited sample.

On the other hand, if the spaces are never filled in the for the entire map, than it's probably a bug/hack.

EDIT: After looking at your SS in full resolution, it does indeed look like a replay/visual bug. It could also be due to how input/replay compression works as well

JappyBabes

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JappyBabes 2014-01-02T04:55:56+00:00

rrtyui is hacker omg !!

01:04 woc2006: lol, because that graph has a bug
01:05 woc2006: only triggered by bpm 200/150/100
01:05 woc2006: and airman is bpm 200

if other BPMs then idk man

winber1

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winber1 2014-01-02T04:57:47+00:00

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XGeneral2000

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XGeneral2000 2014-01-02T04:58:36+00:00

I'm tempted to say it's a bug, if only for the fact that assuming WW's other human-looking scores are legit, it hardly seems worth hacking scores on maps like those, which should be well within his abilities.

Perhaps it's as AirCoN suggested, which is that the bug is related to replay compression (rounding on hit timing). Although, assuming that the Pony Swag and Shinto Shrine replays are part of the same bug as the Airman replays, it doesn't seem to be restricted to only maps with BPM multiples of 50 (since Pony Swag is 120/180 and Shinto Shrine is 160/240).

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Icyteru

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Icyteru 2014-01-02T04:59:32+00:00

JappyBabes wrote:
rrtyui is hacker omg !!
01:04 woc2006: lol, because that graph has a bug
01:05 woc2006: only triggered by bpm 200/150/100
01:05 woc2006: and airman is bpm 200
if other BPMs then idk man

How do you get/what's the overlay?

pielak213

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pielak213 2014-01-02T05:03:35+00:00

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Icyteru

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Icyteru 2014-01-02T05:19:31+00:00

Btw, other replays on airman don't have the same bug, including shizuru's.

jesse1412

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jesse1412 2014-01-02T05:22:17+00:00

It's a bug we raved about this when the old Chinese graph maker was flying around.

pielak213

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pielak213 2014-01-02T05:22:22+00:00

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skibblesx

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skibblesx 2014-01-02T06:03:04+00:00

you guys are so cool I wish I could be half as smart as you

Zeraph

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Zeraph 2014-01-02T06:03:58+00:00

skibblesx wrote:
you guys are so cool I wish I could be half as smart as you

are you a fan? i am a fan.

Soulg

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Soulg 2014-01-02T06:06:44+00:00

first one yes, no idea what im looking for in the second so looks normal to me (because i dont know what normal would be)

but why would he hack this score if he's been legit all this time? what would be so special about that map for him to hack it, last i checked it's not incredibly difficult.

or he's been cheating forever and we are just now finding out (except problably not)

edit: just saw that this replay is from june 2012, what

Kert

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Kert 2014-01-02T06:30:30+00:00

Doesn't it happen because of the difference between keyboard connection? usb / ps/2 ?
I have similar "inhuman" timing bars when I play on my old usb slim kb
But this doesn't happen on my ps/2 numpad

JappyBabes

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JappyBabes 2014-01-02T06:31:23+00:00

Kert wrote:
Doesn't it happen because of the difference between keyboard connection? usb / ps/2 ?
I have similar "inhuman" timing bars when I play on my old usb slim kb
But this doesn't happen on my ps/2 numpad

01:07 woc2006: the graph is based on internal timing and affected by hardware
01:08 woc2006: like soundcard

could be

Ippikiryu

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Ippikiryu 2014-01-02T06:44:41+00:00

ITT we collectively decide that everyone is hacking

skibblesx

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skibblesx 2014-01-02T07:57:50+00:00

Zeraph wrote:
skibblesx wrote:
you guys are so lame oh my god
you are a massive faggot.

I've come to that conclusion like 4 years ago when I started dating guys :^)))

but lmao you guys need to not nit pick everyones scores holy crap

Ippikiryu wrote:
ITT we collectively decide that everyone is hacking

Almost

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Almost 2014-01-02T08:10:49+00:00

skibblesx wrote:
but lmao you guys need to not nit pick everyones scores holy crap

And you need to not tell people what to do holy crap.

skibblesx

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skibblesx 2014-01-02T08:14:19+00:00

Almost wrote:
skibblesx wrote:
but lmao you guys need to not nit pick everyones scores holy crap
And you need to not tell people what to do holy crap.

Nah :^)

Either way you're tearing apart peoples scores on an internet game about clicking circles with ranks that change nothing in life

It's like when people get upset over reddit upvotes

Soulg

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Soulg 2014-01-02T08:23:07+00:00

and you're getting upset with what other people are choosing to do with their free time.

It's like when people get upset over reddit karma* FIXT

skibblesx

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skibblesx 2014-01-02T08:39:03+00:00

Soulg wrote:
and you're getting upset with what other people are choosing to do with their free time.

It's like when people get upset over reddit karma* FIXT

No but it's fun taking screen shots and showing how ridiculous you guys are to people :^)

Also Karma is the ratio balance between upvotes and downvotes between content contributions and comments.
So it plays either way

**tryhardsattheirfinest**

But it appears I am derailing this topic enough for you guys to not chew on other peoples scores

Mission accomplished

Mamoru Senpai

Mamoru Senpai 2014-01-02T09:19:13+00:00

skibblesx wrote:
Soulg wrote:
and you're getting upset with what other people are choosing to do with their free time.

It's like when people get upset over reddit karma* FIXT
No but it's fun taking screen shots and showing how ridiculous you guys are to people :^)

Also Karma is the ratio balance between upvotes and downvotes between content contributions and comments.
So it plays either way
**tryhardsattheirfinest**

But it appears I am derailing this topic enough for you guys to not chew on other peoples scores

Mission accomplished

First world problems.

Soulg

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Soulg 2014-01-02T09:49:12+00:00

not sure if trolling or actual superiority complex

doesnt matter free post for postcount

Ralrak

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Ralrak 2014-01-02T10:08:17+00:00

pielak213 wrote:
^it's a special client (not sure if allowed to give out)

How do you obtain said "special client"?
I'm interested in stats ^.^

Wishy

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Wishy 2014-01-02T10:32:54+00:00

Contacts I guess.

Anyways I find this quite interesting, iirc there was some shitstorm about many top players having cheated on some very specific scores, would be nice to see some real answer to this, for the sake of curiosity.

AmaiHachimitsu

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AmaiHachimitsu 2014-01-02T12:01:15+00:00

pls stop talking about cheetahs it's prohibited Lady Gaga Mango

Omgforz

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Omgforz 2014-01-02T13:31:55+00:00

I thought that "inhuman" timing bar is normal. I get that on every DT score I do.
But maybe that's just because I suck at accuracy. huehuehue

silmarilen

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silmarilen 2014-01-02T14:05:55+00:00

doubt about wubwoofwolf

gladi/jesse we need you

Weed

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Weed 2014-01-02T14:37:31+00:00

glitch

D33d

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D33d 2014-01-02T14:43:02+00:00

It's been a known glitch for years.

Icyteru

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Icyteru 2014-01-02T15:19:06+00:00

But the timing bar was only introduced a while ago...

Rewben2

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Rewben2 2014-01-02T15:50:57+00:00

wubwoof and rrtyui confirmed hackers

timing bars are lies

their liveplays are also faked

AmaiHachimitsu

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AmaiHachimitsu 2014-01-02T16:30:38+00:00

Rewben2 wrote:
wubwoof and rrtyui confirmed hackers

timing bars are lies

their liveplays are also faked

Amai #1 legit player

mad Lou

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mad Lou 2014-01-02T17:28:15+00:00

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:
Amai #1 legit player

Yuno legit #1

WubWoofWolf

Former osu! Champion: 2017

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WubWoofWolf 2014-01-02T18:00:24+00:00

Anyone wants a candy? @.@

WolfCoder

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WolfCoder 2014-01-02T18:13:56+00:00

What if I told you... the machine reading your input was inhuman?

WubWoofWolf

Former osu! Champion: 2017

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WubWoofWolf 2014-01-02T18:21:40+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT_Oi0Bj1BU

This is my inhuman liveplay of this <3

skibblesx

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skibblesx 2014-01-02T19:09:26+00:00

WubWoofWolf wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT_Oi0Bj1BU

This is my inhuman liveplay of this <3

gg everyone lockthread trash

fuckin try hards

ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS ASK HIM 8DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Gigo

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Gigo 2014-01-02T19:28:10+00:00

skibblesx, are you ok? I'm kinda worried about your mental health. Here, let's try an exercise - breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out... There, are you feeling better? Good, now go drink a beer... actually you don't sound old enough for that... go drink a glass of milk, relax and enjoy life.

Soulg

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Soulg 2014-01-02T19:29:25+00:00

brings great shame to me and my country

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[resolved] Glitch: Replay timings

Kyou-kun wrote:

[AirCoN] wrote:

JappyBabes wrote:

skibblesx wrote:

Kert wrote:

Zeraph wrote:

skibblesx wrote:

Ippikiryu wrote:

Ippikiryu wrote:

Ippikiryu wrote:

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Ippikiryu wrote:

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skibblesx wrote:

Almost wrote:

skibblesx wrote:

Soulg wrote:

skibblesx wrote:

Soulg wrote:

pielak213 wrote:

Rewben2 wrote:

AmaiHachimitsu wrote:

WubWoofWolf wrote:

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