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ABINGDON BOYS SCHOOL - howling

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deadbeat
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, 6 November 2009 at 2:43:43 a.m.

Artist: Abingdon Boys School
Title: HOWLING
Source: Darker than Black
Tags: darker than black anime howling
BPM: 166
Filesize: 1762kb
Play Time: 01:25
Difficulties Available:
  1. Easy (1.68 stars, 95 notes)
  2. Hard (4.99 stars, 289 notes)
  3. Normal + (4.45 stars, 170 notes)
Download: Abingdon Boys School - HOWLING
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Map now looks like map and a combo burst has been added... Thank you Ema Skye for the combo burst and all that have modded and a major thanks to Card N'Force and Azure_Kyte for their major modding and thank you Ichigo-Sora for hitsound placement
Last edited by deadbeat , edited 87 times in total.
Mengjun_old
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I see you're mapping an a.b.s. song too! I gotta say, though, the timing is kinda off. If I may suggest a timing:

BPM: 166
Offset: either 1121 or -325, whichever you prefer. I'd recommend the negative offset, since that works more nicely with the visual effects when played in the osu! music player in the main menu in my opinion.

Use this timing to place your beats more correctly as well.
deadbeat
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wow. someone downloaded my map. anyway. my computer REALLY REALLY bad at timing cause it keeps jumping back so i just work with what i can do. gonna try get someone to help me timing thou
Card N'FoRcE
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deadbeat wrote:

special thx to Card N'Force for making beatmap making sound so complicated
:<
Wow, seems like i was doing a bad thing by trying to explain you how mapping works D:

Timing seems ok now.

- Easy:
00:06:99 (1) - move 1/4 before
00:10:51 (6) - make the slider 1/4 longer
00:12:68 (1,2,3,4) - kinda weird spacing?
00:21:27 (4) - move 1/4 before
00:22:71 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Please, check carefully where you place beats in the timeline. There are a lot of 1/4 mistakes.
00:27:59 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - ^ here and in the rest of the map too.
00:33:65 (2) - move 1/4 after
00:34:73 (3) - wrong spacing, it's too close
00:37:62 (7) - move 1/4 after
And the whole rest of the map has this problems. Please try to fix by yourself after fixing the ones above.

- Normal:
Here too, the list of "Move 1/4" would be so long so i won't write them all down. Anyway, most of the map in not playable right now.

- Hard:
Same as normal.
Please, try to carefully check every beat D:
I know it's a pain, but that's what happens when you change timing D:
deadbeat
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dam you timing change. i should prob get the timing checked b4 i add the beats. i'll get on it right now and does anyone else see anything wrong?
Azure_Kite
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[Easy]
00:10:51 (6) - Shorten to 11:60
01:23:89 (1) - Lengthen by 1/4 beat (effectively 1/2 beat cause of the reverse)
01:24:97 (1) - Extend to the next red tick.

[Normal]
I think you need to manually remake all sliders and resnap the notes.

[Hard]
Same as Normal.

Good job so far, with a little work, especially with distance snapping, this could be a fantastic beatmap. Starred
deadbeat
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deadbeat
does anyone else see any problems with the map
Azure_Kite
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Azure_Kite
Here's another mod to help you :3
Green = Suggestion Red = Fix this


[Easy]
00:10:69 (6) - try moving this back to 00:10:51 and shortening to 00:11:06.
00:11:96 (7) - Try moving back to 00:11:60, and adding a beat at 12:14
00:23:53 (2) - Move to 00:23:16 and place a beat at 00:23:71.
00:27:50 (1) - Try moving to 00:27:32 and placing a new beat at 00:27:68. Also, make the 00:26:96 (7) - the beginning of a new combo, not 00:27:50 (1).
00:37:78 - Place a note here
00:41:60 (2) - move to 00:41:42.
00:42:14 (3) - Move to 00:41:96.
00:49:55 (1) - I'd probably remove this beat, make the next on a new combo, and
00:51:00 - place a note here
01:03:65 (1) - Move this forward to 01:03:83
01:05:45 (1) - reverse another time
01:11:78 (2) - move to 01:11:60 and place a new beat at 01:11:96 and 01:12:11
01:15:30 (9) - move to 01:15:39



[Normal]
Distance snapping is required in this; I'd recommend 0.8 in this map.

00:14:67 (3) - move to 00:14:31
00:15:57 (1) - end at the white tick
00:19:19 (1) - Place a note here to make it sound right
00:21:36 (1) - move to 00:21:54
00:22:08 (3) - move to 00:21:90
00:22:26 (4) - Place a note here
00:23:16 (2) - Doesn't fit the music. try making it reverse at every half beat rather than 1/4 beat
00:25:87 (5) - move back 1/2 beat and reverse, or just add a beat
00:41:42 (8) - make it end at 00:42:14
00:44:76 (8) - move forward 1/4 beat and shorten the slider to reverse on every 1/2 beat, not every 1/3
00:49:55 (7) - Move forward 1/2 beat
00:50:63 (9) - move to 00:50:45
00:51:00 (10) - move to 00:50:81
00:51:36 (11) - move to 00:51:18
00:51:72 (12) - move to 00:51:54
00:51:90 - add a note here
00:54:52 (2) - place at white tick
00:56:42 (7,8,9) - move all these 1/2 beat back
00:57:50 (10) - place a note here
01:02:02 (1,1) - random combo changes?
01:02:65 (1) - place 1/4 note back (white tick)
01:10:69 (11) - end at 01:11:60
01:13:13 (4) - place 1/4 note back
01:18:10 (2,1,1) - make this just one combo
01:19:55 (2,1,1) - ^
01:21:00 (2) - new combo
01:25:33 (4) - end this at the white tick at 01:25:69, and place a note at 01:25:879

[Hard]
I'd probably recommend a distance spacing of 0.9 or 1.0. And this map definietly needs it atm.

00:09:25 (12) - Snap the end of this to (11)
00:11:24 (5) - Resnap this to the beat, also reverse an extra time
00:12:68 (9) - New combo
00:14:49 (16) - Resnap this to the timing and make sure it ends before the next beat. Resnapping the slider here pushes the end past the next beat, which isn't good
00:17:02 (9) - New combo
00:21:00 (11) - New combo
00:21:36 (13) - move to 00:21:54
00:21:72 (14) - Move to 00:21:90 (14) - and make it end at 00:22:62.
00:22:80 (15) - Move to 00:22:98
00:24:97 (5) - Make this end at the red tick
00:26:42 (10) - Move back to the red tick
00:26:60 - New beat and Combo here.
00:27:14 (13,14,15,16,17) - Move forward 1/2 beat
00:31:39 (5) - Move back 1/4 beat
00:31:84 (8) - Resize the slider so that it reverses every half beat, and end at 00:32:56
00:32:65 (7) - Move forward 1/4 beat
00:32:92 (9) - New combo
00:34:01 (12) - move to 00:33:83
00:34:19 (13) - New beat
00:35:81 (17) - New combo
00:40:87 (9) - New combo
00:41:42 (11) - Resize so it reverses every 1/2 beat
[color=#408000]00:42:14 - New beat
00:43:95 (5) - Resize to 1/4 beat per reverse and add an extra reverse
00:48:28 (5) - Resize to 1/2 beat per reverse
00:49:73 (9,10,11) - 9 = new combo and move forward 1/2 beat
00:50:63 (14,15,16) - Move forward 1/2 beat
00:52:08 (18) - Make this end on the red tick
00:53:80 (1,2,3) - Move forward 1/4 beat
00:54:79 (6,7,8) - Move all these forward 1/2 beat, and probably make
00:55:33 (8) - End at 00:55:87
00:56:78 (9,10,11) - Make 9 a new combo and move forward 1/2 beat
00:57:68 (14,15,1) - Move these forward 1/2 beat
01:00:03 (4) - New combo
01:01:12 (8) - Move forward 1/2 beat
01:01:66 (10,11) - Move forward 1/2 beat
01:02:38 (12,13) - ^
01:02:92 (14) - Move forward 1/2 beat and snap to the white tick
01:03:47 (15) - Delete this
01:03:65 (1) - Halve this, make it end on the red tick
01:04:37 (2) - Extend this; Make this end on the next red tick
01:05:81 - New note here
01:06:18 (8) - New beat, New combo
01:06:54 (2) - Extend this to the white tick
01:06:99 (3) - Move this 1/4 beat forward
01:07:26 (4) - Move this 1/2 beat forward
01:08:71 - New note here
01:11:60 (13) - New combo
01:13:04 - New beat here
01:13:40 (1,2) - Move forward 1/2 beat
01:14:13 - New note here
01:14:85 (8) - New combo
01:15:39 - New note here
01:15:84 (3) - Move forward 1/4 beat
01:18:28 (3) - Resize the slider
01:19:91 - add a new note here
01:20:09 - Here too
01:21:00 (12) - New combo
01:21:72 (16) - New note here
01:22:08 (7) - New combo
01:22:44 - New note
01:22:62 - ^
01:23:89 (4) - New combo
01:26:06 (10) - Move back 1/2 beat
01:26:87 (13) - Move forward 1/4 beat and end at 01:27:32
01:27:50 (1) - Shorten to 01:28:77
01:28:95 - New note
01:29:13 - New note
deadbeat
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oh dear. this could take a while. thanks Azure
Ichigo-Sora
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Since Azure_Kyte already did such a detailed job modding the note timings, etc., I'm just going to mod the hitsounds ^^" These are all just my opinion so you don't have to follow them if you don't want to.

[Easy]
00:10:51 (6) - Clap
00:15:57 (1) - Finish
00:21:18 (4,5,6) - Clap?
00:26:96 (1,2,3) - Clap?
00:28:95 (5) - Finish
00:33:28 (7,8,9) - Clap
00:39:07 (1,2,3,1) - Clap
00:41:42 (2,3) - Finish
00:48:47 (2) - Clap
00:48:47 (2) - Clap
00:51:72 (6) - Put a finish at the end
00:55:51 (4,5) - Whistle + Finish on 5
00:58:04 (9,10,11) - Whistle + Finish on 11
01:03:83 (1) - Whistle?
01:07:08 (3,4) - Whistle + Finish on 4
01:09:97 (5,6) - Whistle + Finish on 6
01:11:60 (2,3) - Finish
01:14:85 (7) - Finish
01:18:83 (2) - Clap
01:20:27 (2) - Clap
01:22:08 (1,2,3,4) - Clap
01:25:33 (1) - Lenghten this spinner so it ends at 01:28:95

[Normal]
00:10:51 (8) - Clap
00:14:13 (1,2,3) - Clap
00:18:47 (1) - Finish
00:21:54 (1,2,3) - Clap
00:23:16 (7) - Finish at the end
00:27:14 (8,9,10) - Clap
00:30:03 (1) - Finish at the beginning
00:33:28 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Clap
00:39:07 (1,2,3,4) - Clap
00:41:42 (8) - Finish
00:44:67 (7,8) - Clap, but only at the beginning o
00:55:51 (4,5) - Whistle
01:03:83 (1) - Finish
01:07:44 (4) - Whistle?
01:07:44 (4) - Whistle
01:15:75 (1) - Finish at the end
01:18:83 (4) - Finish
01:20:27 (1) - Finish
01:22:08 (5,6) - Clap
01:24:61 (3) - Finish

[Hard]
00:10:15 (2,3,4) - Clap
00:11:78 (6,7,8) - Clap
00:15:57 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Clap
00:18:47 (17) - Finish
00:21:00 (11,12) - Clap
00:23:53 (1) - Finish
00:26:78 (11,12,13,14,15,16,17) - Clap
00:28:95 (18) - Finish at the end
00:32:92 (9,10,11,12,13,14,15) - Clap
00:38:89 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Clap
00:48:83 (6,7,8) - Clap
00:52:08 (18) - Finish at the end
00:55:33 (8) - Whistle?
00:58:77 (2) - Whistle
01:02:74 (14) - Whistle
01:03:65 (1) - Whistle
01:07:26 (10) - Finish
01:10:33 (8,9,10) - Whistle
01:15:84 (11) - Finish
01:18:28 (3) - Clap at the end
01:20:27 (8) - Clap
01:24:61 (6) - Finish

Nice map though ^^ Have a star~
deadbeat
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I'll consider doing that once i have all the beats in place. stuff like that I'd add at the end. thanks for idea
Any other idea for the map?
Azure_Kite
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Here's how it should look like after my modding. :)

Download: ABINGDON BOYS SCHOOL - howling (deadbeat) [Hard (suggested beat timing)].osu
Card N'FoRcE
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Card N'FoRcE
- Easy:
Maybe the sliders are too fast for a Easy D:
00:11:51 (7) - move 1/4 after
00:23:80 (3) - ^
00:34:73 (9) - new combo?
00:58:77 (9) - (nazi) move 1 square to the right, it looks really ugly D:
01:11:06 (1) - remove new combo
01:11:60 (2) - new combo
01:25:33 (1) - how about making this end at 1:28:771?

- Normal:
00:37:62 (14) - misleading spacing
00:43:77 (3) - please place this one better, it makes 4 and 5 confusing
00:47:38 (1,2,3) - imho these three beats feel weird. Try moving them all 1/2 after; if youy like how it sounds, please move them in the field to fix spacing
00:58:95 (1) - remove new combo
01:00:03 (2) - new combo
01:02:65 (2) - move 1/2 before

- Hard:
00:21:90 (4) - It's too close, maybe?
And i'm actually unsure about these two: 00:09:07 (12) - 01:13:77 (3)
I got them in my first try but i'd say they are kinda wrong xD (just to let you know, anyway. Wait for BATs)

Actually, i think many of your New Comboes shoud be fixed, but the maps plays kinda good, so there's no need.
Star for the progresses made, please be sure to fix what i mentioned ^^
deadbeat
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thanks. I've got them done so now hopefully the map is good enough for playing
jericho2442
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deadbeat
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yea. video doesn't work cause i got rid of it cause it was way too big :(
Thunderstorm
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deadbeat
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K. I'll see what i can do
Matma Rex
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Matma Rex
[Overall]
Offset probably shouldn't be negative. Set it to 397.
Use smallest grid (level 3). You can chage it in View -> Grid level.

After changing to grid lv. 3 scan whole song on Easy and Normal and fix little spacing problems, like 00:30:03 (1,2,3) in Easy or 00:34:01 (3,4,5,6) in Normal. I am not mentioning them all, they're tiny, and should be fixed only because it'll look nicer :)

[Easy]
00:21:00 (x) - add note here.
00:20:63 (3,4,5,6,7) - and the fix spacing.
00:22:62 (1,2,3,4) - looks ugly.
00:25:69 (6,7) - spacing.
00:27:68 (3,4,5) - spacing.
00:32:02 (6) - move 1/2 earlier and fix spacing.
01:14:13 (4,5,6) - spacing.

[Normal]
Some combos are too long - IMO they should not be longer than 8, 9 notes.
01:27:32 (1) - end it at 01:28:771.
00:11:24 (1,2,3) - spacing.
00:35:81 (8,9,10,11,12) - spacing.
00:47:56 (2) - move 1/2 earlier, fix spacing.
And some combos help:
01:15:75 (1), 01:20:27 (1), 01:26:24 (1) - remove new combo
01:09:07 (6), 01:14:49 (9), 01:18:10 (2), 01:21:00 (2) - add new combo.
These are just few at the end of map - go around it and add more new combos, and remove some if some combo is really short (3 notes or less) ;)

[Hard]
Nice map, maybe a bit too cluttered, but still nice.



Star for you :)
Kinaya
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Kinaya
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Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
[Song Setup]
Capitalize the Song Title?
Unless the song is actually named with the lowercase.

(Hitsound Advice)
Hitsounds can be used to emphasize the strong parts of the song that you are mapping to.

[Easy]
Add some hitsounds
00:10:51 (6,7) - Add hitsounds here [as an example of places you can add them]
00:14:85 (4) - Move one white tick to the left?
00:22:62 (1,2) - Add hitsounds [as an example of places you can add them]
00:24:25 (4) - ^
00:33:28 (7) - Add a New Combo
00:33:65 (8) - Extend by 1 tick on 1/4 beat divisor
00:34:73 (1) - Remove New Combo
01:01:48 (3,4) - 3 on white tick 4 on red tick
01:03:83 (1) - Remove New Combo

[Normal]
Add some hitsounds
00:12:68 (6) - Extend to next white tick
00:14:49 (3) - Hitsound here [as an example of places you can add them]
00:26:96 (8) - Move to red tick after previous slider
00:27:32 (9) - Move to red tick after 8
00:27:68 (10) - Move to red tick after 9
00:28:59 (1) - Move to red tick after previous slider
00:28:77 (x) - Add a note here ( not a new combo )
00:33:65 (2) - Hitsounds here [as an example of places you can add them]
00:34:19 (4) - ^
00:34:73 (6) - ^
00:35:81 (8) - New Combo
00:37:26 (7) - Delete this note?
00:44:85 (8) - Add 2 more repeats?
00:47:74 (3,4) - Select both of these and place on previous white tick
00:48:47 (5,6) - Move these to correct spacing
00:53:53 (8) - Hitsound this [as an example of places you can add them]
00:57:86 (10) - Place on next red tick? and shorten by 3 ticks on 1/4 beat divisor
00:58:77 (11) - Add 2 more repeats and place on previous red tick
01:02:74 (2) - Move to previous white tick

[Hard]
Add hitsounds here too
You might need to use distance snap
00:20:63 (10) - Delete
01:21:90 (6) - Spacing is too far

Nice try though~
EEeee
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EEeee
Easy
00:33:65 (2) - end 1/4 back on the white tick

Normal
00:18:83 (2,3,4,5,6) - spacing seems a bit weird, seems to go off at 2, just make sure this pattern is okay
00:31:66 (5,6) - space these properly, 5 isn't spaced with 4, 6 isn't with 5, fix it
00:34:19 (4) - space this, and make sure the whole pattern is fixed afterward
00:56:42 (6) - new combo
00:58:04 (10) - new combo

Hard
00:22:98 (5) - space this
00:58:22 (2,3,4,5) - try to fix this pattern,3 seems to be too close and then uhhh just check if u can fix it
01:14:49 (7) - space this at 1.0x

^^ nice map
do u wanna move it to pending :P
deadbeat
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Your the boss
Please tell me if anything wrong or could be changed. Will gladly listen
Fallen-Creed
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Fallen-Creed
I quite like it.

I'll give you a star.

Fallen-Creed
Senbon
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Senbon
[Overall]
  • - Strange placement, but that's not necessarily bad per se... just don't place stuff randomly all over the map. Look for clean patterns and sequences to work it.

[Easy]

  • * Please work on spacing, this is Easy and it's pretty difficult with all the thirds and such you have. Use Distance snapping whenever you can.

    * 00:21:99 (7) - What is this snapped to on the time line? I snapped it 1/4 tick back, sounds okay there. But personally, I'd just remove it.
    * 00:51:72 (6) - I'd end this repeat earlier.
    * 00:56:78 (4) - New combo?
    * 01:01:84 (3,4) - This doesn't work well. You should fill in the blanks before it.
[Normal]

  • * 00:13:77 (7) - New combo.
    * 00:14:13 (1) - Remove new combo.
    * 00:56:42 (1) - ^
    * 00:56:78 (2) - New combo.
    * 00:58:04 (1) - Remove new combo.
    * 01:06:18 (2) - Possibly combine this slider with (3)?
    * 01:07:44 (4) - Shorten to white tick.
    * 01:08:71 (5) - New combo.
    * 01:09:07 (1) - Remove new combo.
[Hard]

  • * I do not recommend working in 1/6th divisor for the WHOLE song... since the other difficulties are in 1/4th, use that.

    * And because of that there are a few time line errors...

    * 01:19:73 (2) - I don't like the clap spam..
deadbeat
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OK. I gonna take a quick guess at that I'm not DS(distance Snapping) very well since I keep getting told I when I all ready have
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deadbeat
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Done and looks like the fixes left are getting a lot smaller. If u do find something that could/should be changed. Please tell or just star if you think its good enough
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deadbeat
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mmmm. i dunno
Mafiamaster
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Your offset is still at 351. Wasn't suppose to be changed to 397?

Resnap all notes afterwards and move all your notes and sliders to their correct places.

There are 3 .osb files in the folder for this map. There is no SB so it would be best to delete them.
deadbeat
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Mafiamaster wrote:

Your offset is still at 351. Wasn't suppose to be changed to 397?
Nah. x3ns0r told me to change it earlier.
Mismagius
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Mismagius
Suggestions~

[Easy]

00:12:64 (1) - finish?
00:41:37 (4) - new combo?
01:23:84 (6) - add clap at start and end, but not at the reverse arrow
01:25:29 (1) - finish at 01:28:905? // add finish?

[Normal]

00:21:13 (x) - add note here, with whistle?
00:35:04 (7) - reverse? if you accept this suggestion, fix spacing later
[mega suggestion]
00:44:80 (8) - -1 revert, and then:
00:45:71 (x) - add note with clap
00:46:07 (x) - ^
00:46:25 (x) - ^
00:46:61 (x) - ^
00:46:79 (x) - ^
00:46:97 (x) - ^ and then fix spacing.
[/mega suggestion]
00:53:48 (8) - add finish?
01:03:24 (4) - whistle?
01:24:56 (3) - remove clap and add finish?

[Hard]
00:41:01 (1,2,3) - what about remove all to put a reverse slider like (3), but that goes 00:41:01 - 00:41:736?
00:41:91 (x) if you accept ^, add note with clap here
00:42:64 (7) - clap here?
00:43:36 (4) - ^

no more things for me~
star!
deadbeat
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mmmm. I did most of it, but some of the things didn't kinda seem right. I may be wrong. I did edit it somewhere between 2:30-3am so I may have heard badly.
minyeob
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Sorry for my late response orz

[Normal]
01:03:78 (1) - How about extending 1/2 beat? (Suggestion)
01:05:41 (1) - I think this is too close from (2).

[Hard]
00:44:98 (1) - Decrease the length by 1/4 beat, please(to white tick)

Frankly Speaking, circles' placements are not good.

Anyways, starred.
deadbeat
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Yea. I'm not very good at beat placement. Am trying thou, I'll get better over time
Mystearica
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Well...I played through this and I'm sorry to say that I honestly could not make sense of what you were trying to map to...sorry.
deadbeat
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mmmmm........well thats not good :cry:
WyndII
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WyndII

animask wrote:

[Song Setup]
Capitalize the Song Title?
please.
EDIT: oh god, map dont have sense of rhythm.. sersly, most parts like :

in Hard

00:11:19 (5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - lol

00:21:85 (4) - the use of slider in thispart makes no sense coz of sound of the slider ticks

00:31:79 (7) - Hidden repeating slider, move the slider somewhere that you can see the arrow thing

00:48:96 (2,3,4,5) - cant find any sense here lol

00:56:19 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - ^
deadbeat
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Oh dear.....i really don't think this map isn't going well....Maybe i should try something else or just give up.....
Blackiris
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Yeah, well... playing this map to the rhythm is impossible... I guess that re-mapping it will be the best solution.
Uhm - nevertheless, star for you, since you're trying hard and it's DtB op ;)
deadbeat
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mmmmm.....yet another bad rhythm comment...not good
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deadbeat
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Thanks...Remapping does seem to be the best idea...gonna try one more thing first...if it does work then f**k
ignorethis
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Be sure to resnap to the new BPM and offset I suggested <3

Star'd
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Yea..they saved me...now to get the placement/flow right
Gens
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[General]
  1. You need to fix the artist/name properly. The other ranked map has "Abingdon Boys School" as artist, it doesn't needs to be all caps.*
  2. Please capitalize the Source correctly. The tags can be however you want, but the source can't. It should be "Darker than Black".
  3. Lower the hitvolume a bit, please.
[All Difficulties]
  1. This might need more hitsounds. If you think you suck at adding hitsounds, you can request a "hitsound mod" in #mod.
[Easy]
  1. Slider Velocity is way too high! And even more for an Easy difficulty! You need to lower it to get it ranked.
  2. I believe you have done a good start. However, there are many perfectionist (nazi) mods out there, so be sure to recheck everything with Distance Snap OR AIMod (Ctrl-Shift-Alt to activate).
  3. Do not use 1/4 in an Easy difficulty if you can!
00:33:29 (1,2) - Check the spacing.
00:37:62 (7) - Please try to not do this next time! Right now, it's impossible to know how many repeats this slider has.
00:41:05 (1,2) - I can't find anything that matches these beats. Be sure to follow the steady rhythm you had before (at around 00:34:73).
01:06:71 (2,3) - Move these 1/4 forward. Also move (3) 1/2 forward after that.
01:08:34 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) - Move 1/4 forward.
01:16:29 (7,8) - Same issue as 00:37:62.
01:25:23 (1) - End this spinner at 01:28:93.

[Normal]
  1. This is too hard for a [Normal]. You can call it "Normal+", if you don't want to remap it (again).
00:47:29 (3) - This beat should be 1/4 forward.
00:55:24 (3) - This one should be 1/4 backward.
00:55:87 (5) - This one should be 1/2 backward.
01:06:17 (2) - You should extend this slider by 1/2.
01:07:25 (4) - This slider sounds weird, move it 1/2 forward.
01:16:29 (7) - 1/6ths are kinda weird at this point.
01:27:31 (1) - End this spinner like in [Easy].

[Hard]
  1. The BPM is different from the other difficulties! Please make it the same.
00:41:06 (1,2) - I know you halved the BPM, but the spacing must not change.
00:43:95 (6,7) - Check the spacing.
00:54:97 (2) - Shorten this slider by 1/4.

~ ~ ~
* Many people have had problems changing the artist/name, so I'll give you some instructions.

How to change the artist/name properly:
SPOILER
1. - Make sure you have the previous artist/title you were using before attempting to do this.
2. - Check back the menu if it says "Latest version but not approved".
3. - Enter to the editor again in any difficulty.
4. - Change the artist/title in that difficulty, and save.
5. - Now Full Submit - without going back to the menu.
6. - Wait...
7. - Once it's done, fix the artist/title in the other difficulties.
8. - Now a Standard submission will do.
9. - Done! Make sure you fix the thread title too; it isn't fixed by the BSS.

~ ~ ~

I might have missed something... so I'll need to re-mod it again later.
Anyways, you still need to work on this beatmap. Nice work you have done so far, though.
Luneko
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Luneko
Hi ^^

|Blue = Suggestion | Red = Change plz | Green = Design |


[Easy]
00:14:499 (5) - Replace with a slider
00:31:844 (4) - ^


[Normal]
00:14:499 (4) - Replace with slider
00:22:088 (4) - 1 grid down
00:36:452 (4) - 1 grid right
00:40:878 (2) - 1 grid up xD
01:09:064 (1) - 1 grid left xDDD
01:21:712 - (3,4) - 1 grid right


[Hard]
00:14:499 (2) - 1 grid up
00:31:483 (1) - 1 grid right
00:39:071 (1,2) - ^
00:43:046 (1,2) - 1 grid left
00:47:383 (1) - 1 grid left


Nice beatmap overall!
Have a Star
deadbeat
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Yay...a map that does point out how bad the rythem is >.<...so that problem must be fixed
Alice
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Slider tick a bit too high??

Easy
00:10:52 (6) - I don't think both sides needs clap.
+This slider is a bit far from previous notes.
00:13:41 (2,3,4,5) - Not sure but they are a bit out of map.
00:20:64 (3,4,5) - ^
00:23:89 (3,4) - ^
00:43:04 (3,4) - huurrrr~ even if it's really distant in the timeline please let them be wayyy farther :/
00:59:30 (5,6) - DDD: out of map!
01:12:31 (3) - Inconsistent and confusing spacing :/
01:25:23 (1) - Finish?

Normal +
00:10:52 (8) - Remove clap in the first reverse (00:10:70)
00:14:31 (3) - Remove clap.
00:58:94 (5,6) - Might be me but sounds out of place :/
01:27:31 (1) - I'd better add a note here and start slider 1/2 after or something

Hard
00:13:23 (4) - The fact it's 1 grid too up makes this not really natural but nevermind
00:14:49 (2,3,4) - aggghh :3 (Out of map.)
00:15:67 (5) - Sounds strange, hard to catch o_o maybe stack it with 4's end?
00:23:53 (1,2,3) - Realign them with a more clear spacing?
00:26:06 (10) - align with 7 = 1 grid down.
00:26:42 (1,2,3) - same than 00:23:53. You need to use grid2. You do small (but ugly D: ) errors with grid 3 (as looots of people don't worry lol :/)
00:44:85 (1) - Feels out of place.. Either redo startpoint and add notes before either delete it and redo this part with notes&sliders.
00:50:27 (4,5,6,7) - select them all and move 1 grid down..
00:56:95 (5,6,7,8) - spacing is a bit painful around here (especially 7,8) but alright I think. Can be played naturally..
01:02:46 (6,1) - Very unnatural with the rhythm
01:03:28 (2,3,4) - out of map :/


You need hitsound mods, I think. I'm not good with this so I can't really help.
deadbeat
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Ok, i'll do those mods soon ^-^ done ^.^ i hope
blissfulyoshi
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I do not under stand how you added new combos, so I am not modding combos.

Suggestions for all diffs:
Lower hitsound volume. The hitsounds overpower the music and sometimes make it inaudible. I also suggest you add a separate volumes for the chorus and the intro.
Add kiai to the chorus?


Easy:
00:23:89 (3) - distance snap (probably caused by the note being too close to the edge)
00:44:49 (5) - distance snap

Normal:
00:47:38 (3) - spacing

Hard;
resnap all notes since quite a few of your ending notes are not snapped

Star.
Andrea
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Andrea
Mod Info's:

Green: Suggestions, you don't have to fix, your choice.
Orange: You don't have to fix too, but is better if you do it.
Red: You have to fix this for sure!

Starts Suggestions:

All seems fine.

[Easy]

00:24:097 (4) - New combo.
01:17:037 (8) - This slider is a bit hard for new players. I suggest to change.
01:25:023 (1) - Never start spinners on blue lines.

[Normal +]

00:54:097 (2,3) - Spacing.
01:16:029 (7) - Sounds bad.

[Hard]

00:15:094 (6) - New combo due to jump.
00:41:005 (1,2) - Spacing.
deadbeat
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sweet... Grazie. and it looks like list of fixes is getting small again ^.^
DJPop
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DJPop
No MV? D:

Set overall volume to 80 (8th line).

~Easy~
00:28:095 (4) - move up 1 frid
00:31:084 (4) - move left 1 grid
00:37:098 (7) - new combo
00:39:043 (1) - remove new combo
01:14:084 (5) - new combo
01:25:041 (1) - on white tick

~Normal+~
00:48:010 (5,6,7) - move right 1 grid
01:00:003 (1,2) - move down 1 grid
01:10:051 (5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - move up 1 grid

~Hard~
00:27:086 (1) - not align with (5) & (2)
00:34:055 (6) - new combo
00:57:068 (9) - not align with (8)
01:02:046 (6) - on red tick
01:04:036 (3,4) - not on the same level with (2)
01:17:055 (5) - move left 1 grid
01:24:024 (3) - move right 1 grid


+Star
Shulin
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Shulin
Easy

Increase hit circle size by one.

00:14:049 (5) - Finish the end of this slider.
00:22:044 (1,2,3) - This are not aligned, was this intentional? If not then put them in line.
00:31:084 (4) - Finish end of slider.
00:44:049 (5) - Add some hitsounds to this slider, clap every third beat, or anything really.
00:54:061 (1) - Clap the end?
01:24:096 (4) - Finish.

- You might also want to add some hitsounds to the other returning sliders.

Normal +:

00:14:049 (4) - Finish?
00:55:051 (4) - Right one for symmetry unless this was intentional.
00:58:076 - Add a beat here.
01:20:098 (1,2,3) - Down one square to be symmetrical with 01:20:026 (3) -

Hard:

00:08:053 (6,7,8,9) - Move all this one square right, unless you intended to have a jump at 6.
00:15:067 (5) - I personally don't like this note being here, I would just have the slider return on it, but this is up to you.
00:21:000 (1) - Right one for symmetry.
00:24:097 (5,6,7,8) - These are a little off grid, not sure how far is too far...
00:44:049 (7) - Left one.
01:13:040 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - Move the whole combo one left if you want symmetry.

Overall
I think you could add a few more hitsounds, experiment and see what you like. Also I think your map might benefit from some curved sliders and some interesting patterns, the way it's laid out is fine as it is though if you want to keep it that way.

Star!
deadbeat
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i think i spoke too soon >.< and thanks for those mods....
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deadbeat
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bring on the next mods
Ema Skye
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Hi =)

Easy :
01:07:257(2) : just suggestion, but i think it feels better on the next red tick, however it's just my opinion =)

Normal+:
00:22:268 : i'd had a 5th note here because this passage feels very confuse to me
00:22:991 : ^ 8th note this time between the note and the slider, same remark, i just thinks it fits better with the lyrics
01:07:257(4) : hum, i don't feel at ease with that slider ... i'd personnaly make this begin here 01:07:438 and end it here 01:07:980, i think it feels better but that's just the way i see it ...
01:10:329(5,6) : i don't really understand why wouldn't you make this fit with the lyrics, i think it would feel much better if the both of them were a red tick before

Hard:
00:28:773(5) : move one grid up, it will be ligned with the 4
00:40:878 : i would had a note here, but do what you want of course ^^
01:01:295(1) : i'd move it one grid up (a litttle bit nazi, sorry ^^)

So, i think it's all, i just reproach you to be a little confusing in the Normal+ diff, sometime it fits with the lyrics, sometime not at all, but otherwise, your map is cool, the song too. Maybe a comboburst to add ? it would be cool ^^

Bye =) + star ^^
Ema Skye
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Ema Skye
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Jinxy
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Jinxy
[Easy]
Nazi : 00:39:043 (2,3,4) - Lower by 1 grid
00:41:005 (1) - Move this 1/2 a beat back

[Normal+]
01:07:043 (4) - Too near to (3)

[Hard]
Nazi : 00:13:077 (7) - Lower by 1 grid
Nazi : 00:16:066 (5) - Too far from (4)
Nazi : 00:23:053 (1,2,3) - Spacing weirdness.
00:29:067 (3) - You don't have to change this, but having a longer repeat slider after a short one messes me up.


Cool map and song, starred.
Kurai
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Hi~

[Easy]
00:37:098 (1) - Move 1/1 earlier
00:39:007 (x) - Add note

[Normal +]
00:13:041 (x) - Add note ?
00:13:059 (x) - ^
01:09:060 (x) - ^
01:15:074 (x) - Add note
01:16:011 (8) - Move 1/2 earlier and add 2 repetition

[Hard]
Good :D

☼Star☼
ztrot
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IRC timing fix bpm166 flat offset 6,890
after you fix I'll bubble
deadbeat
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Kurai_ wrote:

Hi~

[Easy]
00:37:098 (1) - Move 1/1 earlier
00:39:007 (x) - Add note

[Normal +]
00:13:041 (x) - Add note ?
00:13:059 (x) - ^
01:09:060 (x) - ^
01:15:074 (x) - Add note
01:16:011 (8) - Move 1/2 earlier and add 2 repetition

[Hard]
Good :D
REALLY unsure about those....I think the mods like moving notes that much and adding that many notes is long gone
Mafiamaster
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Delete the .osb file from the folder.
Resize combo burst's height to 767 px

Normal~
  1. 00:21:347 (1) - Remove new combo.
  2. 00:41:408 (3) - Align with 1 and 2.
  3. 01:27:311 (1) - Add a finish on this spinner like you did with Easy.
Hard~
  1. 00:15:926 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Fix your spacing. 2,3, and 6 are too far from 1,4,5.
  2. 00:26:588 (2,3) - Move closer to 1.
  3. 00:37:070 (4,5) - Move closer to 3.
  4. 00:39:239 (2,3) - Move closer to 1 and 4.
  5. 00:40:143 (7) - Move closer to 6.
  6. 01:00:383 (8) - New combo.
  7. 01:00:564 (1) - Remove new combo.
  8. 01:08:697 (4,5) - Move closer to 3.
  9. 01:17:552 (5) - Move this slightly farther away from 4 like 2 and 3.
deadbeat
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I didn't think i'd be ranked just yet...oh well..fixes fixed^.^
Mafiamaster
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Ok.
minyeob
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Ranking new mapper's map is awesome.
Cafif
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Cafif
This is probably one of the 3 worst beatmaps i have ever played, timing is off, random notes added and notes missing, just wtf.
deadbeat
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yeah, this is a really terrible map. mapper should just stop mapping. it's that bad D:
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