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GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
"The day brightens.
You see a dead body. And some alcohol bottles near him.
Yup. He's dead, all right.
No mistakes on that one!"

pieguy1372, over-drinker, was killed Night 2.

Your dear mod wrote:

You are over-drinker.

You can't live without alcohol and you are always drunk, perhaps a bit too much.

Powers:
  1. During the night, you can choose a person to visit and drink with.
  2. Targeted person will be roleblocked.
  3. HOWEVER, since you sometimes drink to lose your sanity, there will be 25% chance that you will end up visiting DIFFERENT person. You will be notified at the start of next day if such happens.
Win Condition:
- You win when all the anti-town factions are eliminated.
Day 3 has begun.

The deadline is November 19, 11:00 AM EST.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Votecount 3-1
Not Voting: Tsukasa, Kytoxid, Sakura, Lincolm
Sakura
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Sakura
And then you wonder why I wanted you to cop Lincolm instead?

Anyway, scum's within Lincolm or Tsukasa.
Sakura
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Sakura
Which means they'll cross vote, Neither kyto nor me should vote anyone at this point since it's MyLo.
Kytoxid
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Kytoxid

Sakura wrote:

And then you wonder why I wanted you to cop Lincolm instead?

Anyway, scum's within Lincolm or Tsukasa.
I think it's Tsukasa. Otherwise, Lincolm could have just day-shot a townie yesterday (probably pieguy, to prevent a roleblock) and night-killed another for the win.
Sakura
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Sakura
then why would scum Tsukasa kill pieguy if lincolm was confirmed town?
Kytoxid
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Kytoxid

Sakura wrote:

then why would scum Tsukasa kill pieguy if lincolm was confirmed town?
My theory is that after yesterday's events, basically everyone had Tsukasa + RB pegged as the scum team. If she went with another kill and, say, killed you for being IC, it really wouldn't shift any pressure off her and she'll probably still get lynched today.

Killing pieguy is a move that confuses the town with WIFOM and thus increases her chances of survival in the confusion. It also removes the one PR that could prevent her from winning if she does secure a mislynch.

I'm running a bit low on sleep, so let me know if this makes no sense or something is unclear. Basically, when you feel stuck in a corner, you're more likely to do crazier things to get yourself out.
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
pfff...

And I had to examine pie...

Vote: Linc
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
If I was scum

I would have

Shot you or saku

faked cop on pie

and win.

Why would I not shoot any of the confirmed?
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Erm... fake cop on lincolm.
Sakura
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Sakura
That's why I said either Lincolm or Tsukasa is scum.

This is a team game I can very well be seeing Lincolm hit RB to bus and killing pie to lay doubt to Tsukasa's cop claim, with pieguy as RB it's not a 100% sure win.

Tsukasa could also have killed pie for the WIFOM that you just presented.

I'd use occam's razor but i doubt it'll work twice =/
Sakura
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Sakura
Although if Lincolm had killed pie then there was no way for town to win if Lincolm was scum... hmm.
Sakura
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Sakura
ftr what result did you get on pie Tsukasa?
Sakura
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Sakura
Here's a theory of what happened:

Pieguy attempted to roleblock Tsukasa.
Since his ability gives him a 25% chance of visiting a random other target, he failed.
Tsukasa's kill went through to pieguy.

There's literally no scenario where I see Tsukasa not being RB'd from pieguy's PoV and Tsukasa just got lucky.

If Lincolm is scum and he shot RB, then he's trolling as shooting pieguy would be a win
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Didn't have any result

Because there would be a flip.

And it would be a waste of PM space
Sakura
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Sakura
That's a lie, usually you get a result even when someone flips, and I mostly wanted to see whether you were Insane or Sane cop.

Vote: Tsukasa
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Oh sure.

I lied

On Lylo
Lincolm
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Lincolm

Sakura wrote:

This is a team game I can very well be seeing Lincolm hit RB to bus and killing pie to lay doubt to Tsukasa's cop claim, with pieguy as RB it's not a 100% sure win.
Instead of killing town and win, I rather killing my scummate. Pffff...... Where is your Oscam's Razor?

Because I rather you control the roleblocker instead the cop. Pffff..... Seriously, if RB was scum, then Pieguy 99% is town. If not, then we already lose right now.
=

Sakura wrote:

then why would scum Tsukasa kill pieguy if lincolm was confirmed town?
Pieguy get killed is pretty obvious. His power can confirm someone as town when there is 1 scum left at game, at the 5P night (1 is IC), this is killing scum. Why this is weird? I don't get with asdfasdfasf your thought...

=

I doubt Kytoxid is Godfather. It is way too lucky in small game like this. Though Tsukasa said he got no result, by meaning he got roleblocked (though the way it's being writen is weird also), but it isn't confirmed.

Vote : Tsukasa

Sorry
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Votecount 3-2
Tsukasa (L-1): Sakura | Lincolm
Lincolm (L-2): Tsukasa
Not Voting: Kytoxid
Kytoxid
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Kytoxid
I guess we've reached a conclusion then.

Vote: Tsukasa
GuyInFreezer
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Votecount 3-3

Tsukasa (Lynch): Sakura | Lincolm | Kytoxid
Lincolm (L-2): Tsukasa
Not Voting: None
GuyInFreezer
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"So Tsukasa got lynched.
Guess what he's flipping?"

Tsukasa, Person who forgot to lock the door and cover the window while watching adult videos, was lynched Day 3.

SPOILER

Your dear mod wrote:

You are Person who forgot to lock the door and cover the window while watching adult videos.

The role name says it all!

Powers:
  1. Not all of the people who watches adult videos are lowlifes. You're actually a cop!
  2. Since you're so open, whoever visits you will learn that you are a cop and you are watching [REDACTED]
Win Condition:
- You win when all the anti-town factions are eliminated.


Sakura, Person who just can't handle rage-inducing game, was endgamed.

SPOILER

Your dear mod wrote:

You are Person who just can't handle rage-inducing game.

You just simply rage too much from the rage-inducing games. When you rage, you just have to throw something to quench your rage (like your game console!)

Powers:
  1. You will see the gauge at each vote count. Nobody knows what it does except you.
  2. The gauge will increase whenever certain condition is met. You won't know the condition.
  3. Once the gauge is filled, you will rage and throw your role PM to your mod, somehow confirming yourself as town.
Win Condition:
- You win when all the anti-town factions are eliminated.


Lincolm, Paradox Grammar Nazi, was endgamed.

SPOILER

Your dear mod wrote:

You are Paradox Grammar Nazi.

You are that person who is a grammar nazi but use wrong grammar yourself.

Powers:
  1. You may dayvig whoever using wrong grammar once in a game.
  2. Your post must be grammatically incorrect in some way.
Win Condition:
- You win when all the anti-town factions are eliminated.


Kytoxid, Sleepy Bus-Driver, has won the game by achieving his win condition!

SPOILER

Your dear mod wrote:

You are Sleepy Bus-Driver.

Your job is to drive the bus for your dear mafia family. But since you do stuff til the late night, you are always sleepy at the day.

Powers:
  1. During the night, you can choose two people to drive.
  2. Driven target will have their place switched. (I.E. If you drive A and B, and cop checks A, he will get a result on B instead.)
  3. HOWEVER, since you are sleepy, you have 25% to mess up and drive someone else instead. If such happens, you will be notified who you didn't drive, but you won't know who you drove instead.
  4. [REDACTED]
  5. [REDACTED]
Win Condition:
- You win when your faction overwhelms town or nothing can prevent it from happening.

Mafia Team of Raging Bull and Kytoxid has won the game!
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GuyInFreezer
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Actions

Day 1:
The gauge fills, revealing Sakura's alignment

Night 1:
pieguy1372 roleblocks Raging Bull (Sucess)
Raging Bull nightkills Sakura (Failed via roleblock)
Kytoxid drives Kytoxid and pieguy1372 (Sucess)
Tsukasa investigates Kytoxid (Innocent via investigating pieguy instead)

Day 2:
Lincolm dayvigs Raging Bull (Sucess)

Night 2:
pieguy1372 roleblocks Tsukasa (Sucess, received a message)
Tsukasa investigates pieguy1372 (Failed via roleblock)
Kytoxid drives Kytoxid and Sakura (Success)
Kytoxid nightkills pieguy1372 (Success)

Mechanics Explained

1. Cop received a result of "Your target is [result]" instead of "[Name] is [result]" to hint the existence of some kind of redirection.

2. Bus drive had a 25% chance of failing, and so did roleblocker.

3. Sakura's bar filled whenever someone posted something that implied suspicion on Sakura.

4. Raging Bull would not have gotten an ability from Sakura nor Lincolm.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
The "message"

You visit Tsukasa's house.
You see his windows wide open.
Out of curiosity, you decide to peek at the windows.
Looking around the room, you find the cop badge, uniform, etc. You assume that he's a cop.
But what interests you more is the computer screen that Tsukasa is staring at.
... adult videos?!
You can not unsee.
You end up watching the screen through the windows for the whole night.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Dead QT
http://quicktopic.com/50/H/hWvLCyTxWhCt
Lincolm
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Lincolm
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

It is bus driver. Glad I was correct about Tsukasa, sad the last stage it was me and him.

Seriously, I'm day-vig and how the fvck I'm not confirmed town. You guys, seriously....
And why there is 1 scum 6 town theory? It is too town sided :o

Sorry Tsukasa.
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
Mod Notes

SOOOOOOOOOOOO many minor mod mistakes X.x
At least, I didn't screw up anything game-breaking.
The title accursed us all! :P

Anyway, how I balanced it.

2:5 is usually very hard to balance 2:5 is weakly scumsided by the nature, but can't do 1:6 since it's immensely townsided.

The focus of the mafia powers were the information misdirection, while the focus of the town powers are the "hidden cards."

Bus Driver screwing up the cop result was the good examples of what mafia was capable of.
Given the setup, town could mess with mafia's plan.

Lightning rod, for an example, could screw up the power of both mafia and nightkill/night action plan.
Dayvig is an another "surprise motherf***er" for mafia.
Conditional IC and the chance of roleblock fail was to prevent town from being too powerful.
Cop's reflexive reverse-rolecop could've gone either way: telling mafia who cop is and telling town who cop (town) is.

Bus driver's chance of failing and role-stealer having not much choices to steal power from was to prevent mafia from being too powerful.

So, it was basically kinda OP mafia vs kinda OP town.

Oh, also, I balanced all this in 10 minutes. Isn't that awesome?

I could comment on the game itself, but I would rather let pieguy yell at you guys. :P
Lincolm
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Lincolm

GuyInFreezer wrote:

but can't do 1:6 since it's immensely townsided.
Seriously, they bought it. I mean, they didn't want confirm me! This make me raging in day 2!
GuyInFreezer
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GuyInFreezer
UPick Choices

-Sephibro
1 Drinking too much (X)
2 Thinking that i have enough money when i go shopping while i actually dont
3 Signing up for this game

-Kytoxid
- submitted a class assignment late
- spilled mango juice all over the floor
- fell asleep at the wheel (X)

-Raging Bull
Woke up late for work because I forgot to set an alarm
Fail a physical activity test because I got lazy and didn't want to work out
Taking a wallet that looks like yours but really is someone elses and you only notice it once you come back home. (X)

-Tsukasa
1) Forgetting to lock my door and cover the window when I watch *stuff* (X)
2) [REDACTED] :roll:
3) Delete system 32 on your PC

2.1) Watching Boku no Pico

-Lincolm
1. This sentence is mistaken grammar. (Because I like paradox) (X)
2. I'm delaying the game because I like to sending as the last person.
3. I'm following what they said because that is a mistake and I need to do a mistake.

-Irreversible
1) Getting caught while cheating in an important exam
2) Getting an electroshock while changing the lamb bulbs (?) xDD (X)
3) Using mud instead of shampoo to wash my hair?

-Sakura
Rage throwing a videogame console controller out of the window. (X)
Breaking a window with a baseball bat.
Tripping on the dance floor when you're the lead dancer.
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
Conf town sakura confirms scum as town gg
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
WTF

KYTO DAMN YOU KEEL U
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
Dem busdrivers...

GG
Kytoxid
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Kytoxid
:P

I think I played terribly but the bus driver role was just ridiculously strong.

RB, you okay with posting the scum QT?
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
I cry that I was right ;w;
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull

Kytoxid wrote:

:P

I think I played terribly but the bus driver role was just ridiculously strong.

RB, you okay with posting the scum QT?


Sure
Kytoxid
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Kytoxid
Scum QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/aacASN4jXswX
Sakura
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Sakura
I've hated scum bus drivers since touhou pyp IV and I still do... :<
Sakura
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Sakura
Re: Stuff

I doubted Tsukasa's claim because he said he got no result because the target died, I was thinking of the possibility of him being an Insane cop (Instead of kyto being GF lol), and never crossed my mind that pieguy roleblocked him.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
I fucking called the scumteam on D1

also Kyto you messed up your claim you terrible liar. :cry: everyone else claimed a person, but his claim was "unreliable bomb". I noticed this as soon as RB flipped and then was like "wait what the hell" and tried to think of any possible explanation for Kyto being mafia, but I wasn't expecting a bus driver in a 2:5 game. at least I wasn't too far off when I said that Tsukasa's cop investigation might have been wrong

probably you all could have figured out it was a mafia bus driver if Tsukasa got the damn hint from his result PM and then noticed this >_< srsly Tsukass </3

that's why you shouldn't question my gut feeling /runs
pieguyn
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pieguyn
also sry but I was facepalming throughout all of D3. srsly, how the hell did no one notice either of the things I pointed out >_<

gg

GuyInFreezer wrote:

I could comment on the game itself, but I would rather let pieguy yell at you guys. :P
<3
Sakura
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Sakura
I basically thought Tsukasa might have been Insane because neither Lincolm nor Tsukasa added up as scum, but he went and said "I got no result because my target died" you always get a result even if your target dies, my fail was not considering the possibility of Tsukasa getting Roleblocked.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
I was thinking about an insane/naive cop too, but I wasn't expecting any of that in a 2:5 game cause 2:5 is scum sided already @_@

the getting a result even if your target dies thing seems personal preference and not necessary for me. I don't think I would have done that angle. (tho if it was really cause he was roleblocked, I'm surprised there wasn't a "no result" pm or smth 0.0)
Lincolm
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Lincolm
I know when I'm scum I usually delay my winning, but not by shooting my scummate. Why no one confirm me as town, except the scum, seriously I want to know.

Sane/Insane/Naive/Paranoid/Random Cop usually considered bastard role? I don't think in non-bastard game they will give this when everyone role is normal. (Like mine, it is normal day-vig, but with restriction)
Sakura
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Sakura
Bus-Driver is non-normal, but an Upick isn't a normal game.
Sakura
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Sakura
Also this made me lol:
2) Getting an electroshock while changing the lamb bulbs (?) xDD (X)
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
I was actually surprised that Kyto is Innocent.

I was SUPPOSED to investigate linc D1
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa

Sakura wrote:

I basically thought Tsukasa might have been Insane because neither Lincolm nor Tsukasa added up as scum, but he went and said "I got no result because my target died" you always get a result even if your target dies, my fail was not considering the possibility of Tsukasa getting Roleblocked.
I... Actually never thought that pie roleblocked me.

I was like "Oh pie flip. Maybe that's why I didn't get a PM"
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa

GuyInFreezer wrote:

UPick Choices


-Tsukasa
1) Forgetting to lock my door and cover the window when I watch *stuff* (X)
2) [REDACTED] :roll:
3) Delete system 32 on your PC

2.1) Watching Boku no Pico
*still whistling*
Raging Bull
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Raging Bull
funny because i thought the plan was for pie to role block you to confirm you as a cop.
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa
He saw my hentai D:
pieguyn
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pieguyn
it was delicious

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