oh and just a note, dont expect me to post in this thread again. do w/e you will with me or my corpse and stuff.

Okay, I have a few bits of info to share at the moment.

1. Due to a slight error on my part, I am resending some role PMs. I did not specify something specifically in some of them, and in another I actually sent the wrong role. If you recieve a PM, you know who you are.

2. Please avoid talking about this game outside the thread. Also remember that any conversation outside MAY be fake as well, in the event some discussion does happen. But please, remember this thread only.

ffffffffffff sfg wifom stop it my brain is hurting

@strager: Like I've said before, the problem I have with cops with sanities in short games is that they have to be figured out before we can make anything of it. I mean yeah it still might be useful and there might only be one mafia, but who knows ._.

OK here's my vote count, everyone make sure your vote is correct here

Lucidity (2) - strager, 0_o Will be lynched if tie remains (I think)
strager (2) - Echo, adam
adam (2) - Derekku, SFG

Not Voting - Lucidity

EDIT: Also, mafia: Kill SFG tonight, since if she doesn't die we will probably lynch her tomorrow, and none of us want a shared win ^_^

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strager wrote:

Right, so if a Cop is killed before D3, we know their sanity. No need to self-invstigate and waste a Day.

*facefloor* Oh God wow am I that stupid? I completely forgot that a cop can investigate themselves arghhh sorry. (But oh wait adam investigated SFG first which does NOTHING for me)

Seeing as SFG is no longer claiming cop, I think it's safe to say that adam is sane since he is the only claimed cop now..

EDIT: also SFG, claiming a role that's a target for night kills probably isn't the best jester strategy

0_o wrote:

Seeing as SFG is no longer claiming cop, I think it's safe to say that adam is sane since he is the only claimed cop now..

Unless she really is just pulling a shitty move and is really mafia ugh so confusing.

Well, one of my previous posts got vanished, but deadline is extended to 7:15 AM tomorrow morning.

Also, trying to fix stuff and finish up, so I can't give a votecount atm. Please do an unofficial votecount or check for yourself at the moment. I have no time currently, I'm sorry.

geez this is just the kind of crazy role Subi would get


welp im not a jester anymore. guess he didnt want me to give up. sooooo....well my new role HAS to be town-known for it to work so i HAVE to claim it.

Claim: Pressured doctor

i can protect people at twilight, but only if at least half of the town pm's me during twilight telling me who to protect. I have to forward the pm's to LadySuburu so he can confirm it.

the pm must only contain the person i am to protect, and can only be sent once per person, so think carefully x_x if two of you (im the third for the majority atm) agree is the only time i can protect someone. if i get more than that i have to follow the majority.

information is public because i have no choice dont flame me for it plz

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

geez this is just the kind of crazy role Subi would get


welp im not a jester anymore. guess he didnt want me to give up. sooooo....well my new role HAS to be town-known for it to work so i HAVE to claim it.

Claim: Pressured doctor

i can protect people at twilight, but only if at least half of the town pm's me during twilight telling me who to protect. I have to forward the pm's to LadySuburu so he can confirm it.

the pm must only contain the person i am to protect, and can only be sent once per person, so think carefully x_x if two of you (im the third for the majority atm) agree is the only time i can protect someone. if i get more than that i have to follow the majority.

information is public because i have no choice dont flame me for it plz

what



the fuck

That's why we have to lynch her tomorrow. If she isn't mafia, the mafia will NK her because they don't want a jester win any more than we do. If she survives the night, that tells us that the mafia didn't want to kill her, and the only reason that would happen is if she is a mafia member.

EDIT: disregard all of this

So anyway.
Unvote

0_o wrote:

Derekku Chan wrote:

0_o wrote:

Seeing as SFG is no longer claiming cop, I think it's safe to say that adam is sane since he is the only claimed cop now..

Unless she really is just pulling a shitty move and is really mafia ugh so confusing.

That's why we have to lynch her tomorrow. If she isn't mafia, the mafia will NK her because they don't want a jester win any more than we do. If she survives the night, that tells us that the mafia didn't want to kill her, and the only reason that would happen is if she is a mafia member.

pay attention. i got a new role.

^ lol ninja'd again poor 0_o *hug*

EDIT: ew ninja'd by two people ._.;

i suck

mod: I'm assuming we can't tell her to protect herself?

Shouldn't PM's be sent to LS, and she protects (and perhaps tells SFG the votes or who was protected)?

Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.

And 0_o, that's WIFOMmy (is that the correct usage?). Mafia would know this and decide not to kill SFG, resulting in a wasted D2 kill. I hope you didn't see this; otherwise, you're looking pretty scummy now.

0_o wrote:

mod: I'm assuming we can't tell her to protect herself?

You can.

strager wrote:

Shouldn't PM's be sent to LS, and she protects (and perhaps tells SFG the votes or who was protected)?

Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.

thats why i have to forward them, i assume. you cant mess with forwards, thats why youre never allowed to forward in WW games ;o

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strager wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

strager wrote:

Shouldn't PM's be sent to LS, and she protects (and perhaps tells SFG the votes or who was protected)?

Seems like a poorly-planned role otherwise, as SFG can manipulate one or two votes easily.

thats why i have to forward them, i assume. you cant mess with forwards, thats why youre never allowed to forward in WW games ;o

Well, whatever. I still think it is safer to PM LS.

Mod: Should SFG's role be changed so protection votes are sent to you instead of SFG?

I feel forwarding is safe, but if enough people would prefer it the other way.., You can have a vote on it, if you want.

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0_o wrote:

strager wrote:

And 0_o, that's WIFOMmy (is that the correct usage?). Mafia would know this and decide not to kill SFG, resulting in a wasted D2 kill. I hope you didn't see this; otherwise, you're looking pretty scummy now.

If SFG was the jester then she is a third party, separate from the mafia and the town. Neither parties want the jester to win, so it would have been in both of their best interests to get rid of her.

I thought the game continued, though.

Also, does adam have to redo his investigation, or did he re-receive his results? (adam?)

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Well if we kill the Jester during a day lynch, that's still giving the town a disadvantage. ffffffff oh well inb4thereisstillajester

Hmm?
I didn't actually investigate SFG.
I just figured she was the jester...and then something else happened, but whatever that's in the past.

adam2046 wrote:

Hmm?
I didn't actually investigate SFG.
I just figured she was the jester...and then something else happened, but whatever that's in the past.

You're making yourself more and more suspicious here.

So adam how come you haven't made an investigation yet, and if you have why aren't you telling us?

0_o wrote:

So adam how come you haven't made an investigation yet, and if you have why aren't you telling us?

Seriously.

If you really are a Day Cop, you probably can't investigate during the Twilight.

Uh, then he was probably smart and investigated himself and just won't tell us for obvious reasons. God adam did you have to be so difficult

Derekku Chan wrote:

Uh, then he was probably smart and investigated himself and just won't tell us for obvious reasons. God adam did you have to be so difficult

...

You're wasting an investigation if you scan yourself. Sanities are revealed upon death, as far as I know, because roles are.

Mod: Will a Cop's sanity be revealed upon his death?

Buhhh oh fuck it I don't give a shit what the cops do anymore.

adam: Give us your results ffs

@everyone in general

when you assume, you make an ass of u and me

so please don't reply *for* anyone else

Echo wrote:

@everyone in general

when you assume, you make an ass of u and me

so please don't reply *for* anyone else

I'll say for everyone, "okay."

By the way, from LS's latest deadline post, the Day ends in six hours, 11 minutes from this post's timestamp.

Don't feel like it.
I actually like watching everyone's reactions...it's great fun, maybe you should too.

On a different note, I feel slightly uneasy about Echo :/

adam2046 wrote:

On a different note, I feel slightly uneasy about Echo :/

Hey, buddy, let's hammer him!

Also, you're seriously not helping the Town. Investigate, and tell your results now or during the Twilight. Any later and we may not get them. >_>

Since he's the only cop left, can we assume he's sane?

Echo wrote:

Since he's the only cop left, can we assume he's sane?

I wouldn't, really. We could waste a lynch doing that.

Being a Day Cop, adam has an advantage over standard Cops. I would think there'd be some balance to this.

Also, of course, we're not sure if his claim is true.

Yeah I'm done observing reactions (except for Lucy who's a bit busy sleeping...lazyarse)
So anyway I scanned myself, cause I like being alive and don't want to have to be killed just to find out my role. (seriously stop suggesting killing me, I don't want it to become a running theme for these games)
Innocent not ruling out naive just yet (I really wouldn't put it past Subi, making the games so interesting)

Also I notice a distinct lack of Echo wearing his underpants on the outside in this game which is most likely what's making me feel uneasy. (SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVIOUR OF THE TOOOOOOOOOWN)
I might vote him. (I felt another of these was required)

adam2046 wrote:

Also I notice a distinct lack of Echo wearing his underpants on the outside in this game which is most likely what's making me feel uneasy. (SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVIOUR OF THE TOOOOOOOOOWN)

Perhaps.

Deadline in a few hours.

3 and half I think.

/me is mad #forumshit got killed.

Did anyone notice that in every game since the one where I was cop (m2?) I've been mafia?

Only because you kept reminding me.

I didn't realise the deadline was during my sleepytiemz :< Luckily it got extended. As the votes stand, I'm going to be lynched? Am I really the most suspicious? D:

Mod: Vote count if possible please

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about 1 hour ten till deadline.
I think...

Lucidity wrote:

Oh, one last thing I observed is that Echo seems to be quiet and Lurking. He did it on purpose in NM3 as a Mafia Goon...Might be arrogant enough to do it again.

lol.

I actually realised that posting a lot of content isn't *that* important in the first few days when most of that content would be only suspicions anyway unless someone makes a gigantic slip.

Of course, by posting you can encourage said slip to occur, but crafting a post with even the remotest chance of doing so takes too much brainpower, especially when you have 2 assignments due in a week >.>

/me nights

I doubt 0_o and strager will change their votes, so I need help from the Aussie and Kiwi please Lynching me is not in the best interest of the town :\\\

@Echo: Don't let me go just because of the Tri-Nations game on Saturday :P

I'm already voting for strager.

(btw I never was a fan of rugby :/)

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lol ok I'm not a big fan either.

adam I see you online :@

Doesn't look like I'll be saved, so just keep an eye on 0_o and strager. Why would they vote for me...Doesn't look like there's much (if any) justification for it. My innocence will be confirmed when I die. I don't think I've acted particularly scummy either, so there's something else behind those two votes.

Moar ninja's. Yes I am imploring you.

You just don't give away much with your posts (very hard to read you)
What the hey, Vote: Echo

I'm not sure the mod will show up on time...

I only voted for Lucidity because there were 2 votes on adam, and I wasn't entirely sure that the deadline wasn't 3 minutes from that post, so basically I scrolled up and voted for the last person who got voted for, in an attempt to keep adam around.

Also, I realized now that I made a mistake, it's actually adam that will be lynched in the event of a tie right now (IM SORRY )

That said, I am more leaning towards voting Echo than strager, but I will vote for strager anyway and if Lucidity comes up and decides to change her vote to Echo, then I will too (I will be back to check in ~20 minutes)

unvote
vote strager

strager (3) - Echo, Lucidity, 0_o
adam (2) - Derekku, SFG
Lucidity (1) - strager
Echo (1) - adam

Lucidity, would you consider lynching Echo or are you going to stick with strager?

I found strager most suspicious until SFG started doing her thing. Now that she looks innocent I think I'll stick with strager -.- Don't really have anything concrete on Echo, but I do feel a scummy vibe from him? It's not something that I want to base a vote on though :\

Do votes past the deadline count even?

I'm a He btw

i wonder if this works

unvote

...dont know who to vote for

Day 1 still isn't over? After some thinking (and apparently SFG isn't a cop), I'm going to trust adam (for now). So... Unvote.

Vote Count (going from 0_o's last one)

strager (3) - Echo, Lucidity, 0_o
Lucidity (1) - strager
Echo (1) - adam

Not voting - SFG, Derekku

unvote
vote Echo

strager will still be lynched if the day ends now btw

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0_o, why do you want to lynch Echo? If we can see your reasoning we can make a better decision between strager and Echo oO

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@Derekku Chan:

Good reason to trust me? No.

Good reason not to trust me? No.

How is an appeal to emotion scummy ~_~

Maybe not "scummy" per se, but it can still raise suspicion. Especially since SFG did it earlier (blah blah I don't care what you do I'm done with this game) and LS did it in Mafia 4 (same thing as SFG). You're saying "it's a bad idea to lynch me blah blah blah" but it's all WIFOM I guess? Oh whatever, it's not like I'm gonna vote you for that anyway :p

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Also, adam, your investigations results would be reeeeeeeally helpful now.

I'm voting Echo basically out of process of elimination:

0_o is innocent.
SFG is obviously cleared
adam I am fairly certain is the cop
Derekku I have a good feeling about (probably because of the twilight brownie weirdness)
strager I don't find that suspicious, from what I can tell he's acting like he always does
Lucidity I am mildly suspicious of, but he did gain some points for resisting to change his vote to adam when the day could have ended at any time

This leaves Echo. I can't really find anything that makes me believe he is innocent. adam also pointed out his different behaviour here, which is also a factor.

EDIT: strager, adam said in the post that I linked in my last sentence that he scanned himself and got Innocent

strager wrote:

Also, adam, your investigations results would be reeeeeeeally helpful now.

Ignore that, I missed a post.

EDIT: 0_o, yeah, I noticed. ;P

Lucidity can you please change your avatar to something not female so I stop calling you "she"

0_o wrote:

Derekku I have a good feeling about (probably because of the twilight brownie weirdness)

Meh, I don't. I wouldn't mind him being lynched D1, unless he did have some aux power.

0_o wrote:

Lucidity I am mildly suspicious of, but he did gain some points for resisting to change his vote to adam when the day could have ended at any time

Wasn't adam already the one to lynch before Lucidity voted? Voting for adam wouldn't do anything, ignoring future actions (e.g. your vote on me). She did, however, allow you to get a third vote on me for L-1. SFG and Derekku retracted their votes (they probably forgot they had dangerous votes on adam). Suspiciously, after you make me the vote target, you vote for Echo. Either this was to try and cover up putting me as the highest voted player for lynching, or it was so you could level the votes and have someone decide the lynch after some more discussion. (Several players would have the opportunity to do this.)

0_o wrote:

This leaves Echo. I can't really find anything that makes me believe he is innocent. adam also pointed out his different behaviour here, which is also a factor.

So it's guilty-until-proven-innocent?

strager wrote:

0_o wrote:

Derekku I have a good feeling about (probably because of the twilight brownie weirdness)

Meh, I don't. I wouldn't mind him being lynched D1, unless he did have some aux power.

Lynching a vanilla is better than an aux, but it's still worse than lynching Mafia ;p It's best to attempt to kill Mafia instead of sacrificing townies, no?

strager wrote:

0_o wrote:

Lucidity I am mildly suspicious of, but he did gain some points for resisting to change his vote to adam when the day could have ended at any time

Wasn't adam already the one to lynch before Lucidity voted?

Not according to this: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=168449&sid=b0b9d52fa6f85dc688bde71b47a86a9d&sid=c6d55453126ea77feaf92cae138862b0#p168449. There was no official vote count though.

0_o wrote:

Lucidity can you please change your avatar to something not female so I stop calling you "she"

But Aya is my waifu :3

Lucidity wrote:

strager wrote:

0_o wrote:

Derekku I have a good feeling about (probably because of the twilight brownie weirdness)

Meh, I don't. I wouldn't mind him being lynched D1, unless he did have some aux power.

Lynching a vanilla is better than an aux, but it's still worse than lynching Mafia ;p It's best to attempt to kill Mafia instead of sacrificing townies, no?

That's what I'm trying to do. In the case that you aren't the Mafia, the loss of a Vanilla role is better than the loss of an Aux role.

Lucidity wrote:

strager wrote:

0_o wrote:

Lucidity I am mildly suspicious of, but he did gain some points for resisting to change his vote to adam when the day could have ended at any time

Wasn't adam already the one to lynch before Lucidity voted?

Not according to this: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/viewtopic.php?p=168449#p168449. There was no official vote count though.

Oh, right. Sorry.

(Fixed URL, btw.)

Lucidity wrote:

0_o wrote:

Lucidity can you please change your avatar to something not female so I stop calling you "she"

But Aya is my waifu :3

You married yourself?

I'm still busy. (Plus, sleep.)

One final extention to Wed at 4:00 PM Central.

Blarghlargahalahga.

K, tons more time to discuss. \o/

cool im going to vote Lucidity because hes just playing badly and i highly doubt he has an important role other than perhaps mafia

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Lucidity wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

cool im going to vote Lucidity because hes just playing badly and i highly doubt he has an important role other than perhaps mafia

Elaborate.

if we have a cop and a doctor, any more pro-town roles in a game this small would make the town far too powerful
that means you are 1. a normal townie 2. a neutral role 3. mafia

if youre a jester then sucks for us if we lynch you. not crossing out that possibility. if youre a different neutral role we want to get rid of you. if youre a townie, its better than hitting aux, and if youre a mafia we want you dead anyways

savvy?

strager wrote:

Suspiciously, after you make me the vote target, you vote for Echo. Either this was to try and cover up putting me as the highest voted player for lynching, or it was so you could level the votes and have someone decide the lynch after some more discussion. (Several players would have the opportunity to do this.)

This was because the game could have ended at any time, and at that moment adam would have been the one lynched, so the only way to prevent that from happening would be to vote for you.

strager wrote:

So it's guilty-until-proven-innocent?

I'm pretty sure that's how this game works really =/

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Saturos-fangirl wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

Saturos-fangirl wrote:

cool im going to vote Lucidity because hes just playing badly and i highly doubt he has an important role other than perhaps mafia

Elaborate.

if we have a cop and a doctor, any more pro-town roles in a game this small would make the town far too powerful
that means you are 1. a normal townie 2. a neutral role 3. mafia

if youre a jester then sucks for us if we lynch you. not crossing out that possibility. if youre a different neutral role we want to get rid of you. if youre a townie, its better than hitting aux, and if youre a mafia we want you dead anyways

savvy?

I meant, could you please provide some examples of the bad play. At the moment I'm inclined to believe that you're basing your vote on my previous "attack" on you. (And let's face it. You were acting guilty).

Your role speculation doesn't carry a lot of merit either. Earlier in the game you were quite happy to believe that there were multiple Cops and a Doctor. Now you think that it's too imbalanced? Let's not forget that any guess on Day 1 is just that ... a complete guess. I wouldn't put too much faith in it.

I would also like to submit that we forget about a possible jester role. In a game this small he might be too likely to get lynched and win and in LS's games the Jester doesn't end the game anyway. Personally I wouldn't mind "sharing" the win with the Jester as it doesn't affect the outcome of the game at all...Anyone disagree with that?

vote count plz

<3

Vote Count

strager (2) - Echo, Lucidity
Echo (2) - adam, 0_o
Lucidity (1) - SFG
Not Voting - strager, Derekku

Lucidity wrote:

I meant, could you please provide some examples of the bad play. At the moment I'm inclined to believe that you're basing your vote on my previous "attack" on you. (And let's face it. You were acting guilty).

im basing my vote purely on the people i believe to be "cleared" and the people i believe to be valuable whether the are "cleared" or not. to be perfectly honest, when i was jester i WANTED you to attack me and was quite pleased that you noticed how guilty i was acting. why would i hold that against you now?

Your role speculation doesn't carry a lot of merit either. Earlier in the game you were quite happy to believe that there were multiple Cops and a Doctor. Now you think that it's too imbalanced? Let's not forget that any guess on Day 1 is just that ... a complete guess. I wouldn't put too much faith in it.

earlier in the game i was trying to do a very typical mafia thing - claim cop and then act sloppily on it and get caught and lynched. i justified it by saying there was a doctor, which i had no intention of believing, and i knew when adam claimed cop that he was the real cop because i wasnt really a cop. your entire reasoning here is based off of my intentionally playing badly in order to get lynched as a jester.

I would also like to submit that we forget about a possible jester role. In a game this small he might be too likely to get lynched and win and in LS's games the Jester doesn't end the game anyway. Personally I wouldn't mind "sharing" the win with the Jester as it doesn't affect the outcome of the game at all...Anyone disagree with that?

personally i strongly doubt that there is a new jester since once the presence jester is revealed, there isnt much point to the role. its meant to be a funny surprise but not much else. this is why i have no problem with lynching you btw i strongly doubt youre a jester and i also strongly doubt youre an aux, and youre the weakest remaining player.

Yeah, I don't buy that you were a Jester...

0_o and Echo shared the same reasoning as me about your fake claim, yet they're both highly respected by you...If anything strager should be classified as the "weakest" player for believing your claim to be truthful and even defending you on numerous occasions. Anyway, basing weakness on who guessed your role right is a silly measure to begin with. You're not even taking possible aux roles into account.

Anyway, I'm having doubts about the validity of your new role claim. After LS's admission of a mistake you might have grabbed the opportunity and made a new play. Congrats on getting the "Adjective" "Role" name down this time though. Here's why I think the role is fishy:

1. There is no reason for the role to exist. If who we save is based on votes from the players then what's the point in having a middleman to forward every single vote to LS? Why not send our votes to LS in the first place?
   
2. If there are 7 alive you'd need 4-7 votes (4 being highly unlikely) for any kind of majority. This could take a while to be received by you and then forwarded. Indeed, if the Mafia are sharp (or only 1 person) then they'd submit their night kill as soon as Twilight is announced. I'll go look for it later, but LS mentioned earlier in this thread that actions are carried out immediately when they're received. A doctor role that works like this would be useless.
   
3. The existence of this role makes you innocent. The need for it to be public doesn't make sense to me. Why would LS give us a publicly innocent player?
   
4. There exists the possibility that you're a 3rd party/mafia that needs a majority of our votes to kill someone. This would be a powerful twist in that we'll kill the player that we think is most valuable.

I've had a look at the supposed "confirmation" of SFG's role by LS and I don't think it's a confirmation at all. The post is here. She acknowledges that forwarding is safe. She says that we can have a vote on it and we can change to something else if we want. There's no way that she'd publicly acknowledge SFG's role though. Those posts are too general to be considered a confirmation anyway. SFG is back on my suspect list ~

Lucidity makes a good point. That role has many holes in it, making it flawed, as it is.

However, SFG could be using that to attract votes to herself if she is still the Jester.

Madness.

As I mentioned earlier, if we do have a Jester in the game I think we should just ignore it. Would everyone be OK with that?

If SFG turns out to be a Jester I think it would even benefit the town to vote her off on Day 1 as all a jester does is cause confusion and delay Mafia convictions ~_~ Sharing a win is still a win!

0_o wrote:

This leaves Echo. I can't really find anything that makes me believe he is innocent. adam also pointed out his different behaviour here, which is also a factor.

I answered for my change in behaviour here: viewtopic.php?p=168693#p168693

I am reluctant to believe SFG is some special kind of doctor. Remember in that other game where I was cop? kuwarudo ragequitted claiming townie (which was probably the truth at the time), but SFG who replaced in became mafia.

Echo wrote:

kuwarudo ragequitted claiming townie (which was probably the truth at the time), but SFG who replaced in became mafia.

Kuu was mafia. If he hadn't been, there would have only been one mafia in the game of nine players. It was me and kuu, he quit, then it was me and SFG :p

I thought it was some PM manipulation trickery on LS's part :/

Lucidity wrote:

Yeah, I don't buy that you were a Jester...

0_o and Echo shared the same reasoning as me about your fake claim, yet they're both highly respected by you...If anything strager should be classified as the "weakest" player for believing your claim to be truthful and even defending you on numerous occasions. Anyway, basing weakness on who guessed your role right is a silly measure to begin with. You're not even taking possible aux roles into account.

actually you kinda have a point on strager there. 0_o i dont really trust as much as you say i do...i just think he has a bit of a leg over you since i know how he plays. Echo, I know well enough to be able to differentiate as mafia or not by his actions once it gets to endgame, or at least i have confidence that i will know what side he is on by the time i would need to vote him were he mafia.

Anyway, I'm having doubts about the validity of your new role claim. After LS's admission of a mistake you might have grabbed the opportunity and made a new play. Congrats on getting the "Adjective" "Role" name down this time though.

hey, my original role did NOT have an adjective affixed to the front of it thankyouverymuch.

Here's why I think the role is fishy:

*There is no reason for the role to exist. If who we save is based on votes from the players then what's the point in having a middleman to forward every single vote to LS? Why not send our votes to LS in the first place?

good reason #1. if Subi suspects im cheating he can check when he is over at my place and modkill me if i lied to him. he obviously trusts me, but he ALSO left room for you guys to change it if YOU dont trust me to play a game i hold in high respect the way im supposed to. there are places to be underhanded, deceiving, misleading, yes, but im no cheater and actually rather offended that youre trying to classify me as one.

*If there are 7 alive you'd need 4-7 votes (4 being highly unlikely) for any kind of majority. This could take a while to be received by you and then forwarded. Indeed, if the Mafia are sharp (or only 1 person) then they'd submit their night kill as soon as Twilight is announced. I'll go look for it later, but LS mentioned earlier in this thread that actions are carried out immediately when they're received. A doctor role that works like this would be useless.

1. there will be six alive if we lynch someone. that means that as long as at least two people vote for the same person, i can add my vote to that and protect that person. (6/2 = 3)
2. LS said that DAY actions occur immediately. He also specifically said that TWILIGHT actions function like normal twilight - if he gets all of them in early, he'll start Day early, but other actions get precedence over NK. Nice try though.

*The existence of this role makes you innocent. The need for it to be public doesn't make sense to me. Why would LS give us a publicly innocent player?

1. I'm exactly as safe as any other role claim here is. you can choose to believe me or not and the only way for you guys to know who everyone voted to protect is to ask in-thread, in which case if i were mafia i could read it and use it anyways.
2. I did NOT make up this role, im just acting on it, so if you have complaints about it bring them to Subi kthnxbai

*There exists the possibility that you're a 3rd party/mafia that needs a majority of our votes to kill someone. This would be a powerful twist in that we'll kill the player that we think is most valuable.

ok cool, theres a lot of possibilities out there and im sure this is one of them. its also possible that im Spartacus and now that ive claimed it i can magically acquire the roles of Doctor, Cop, Ninja, and Traitor and do whatever the heck i feel like. How much do you want to think about possibility?
Oh hey heres a good one! what if im some new kind of role that mindwipes everyone that sends a pm to me and makes them my minions~ i could even minionize the MAFIA that way and instantly win. thatd be cool. Thats a possibility.
Actually i think this falls under the realm of "giving the GM ideas" so ill stop now cus i think ive made my point.

I've had a look at the supposed "confirmation" of SFG's role by LS and I don't think it's a confirmation at all. The post is here. She acknowledges that forwarding is safe. She says that we can have a vote on it and we can change to something else if we want. There's no way that she'd publicly acknowledge SFG's role though. Those posts are too general to be considered a confirmation anyway. SFG is back on my suspect list ~

congratulations, you have figured out that Subi is a good enough GM that he wont screw the game up if people start fishing for confirmations. again, i think its kind of insulting to doubt the ability of your GM but hey, you have the freedom to flame up a storm and all we'll do is edit/delete/ban things that get overly out of hand. *sarcastic round of applause*

strager wrote:

Lucidity makes a good point. That role has many holes in it, making it flawed, as it is.

However, SFG could be using that to attract votes to herself if she is still the Jester.

um no i dont expect you guys to lynch your doctor. i suppose i could be estimating wrong, but that happens a lot in this game on any strategy.

Lucidity wrote:

As I mentioned earlier, if we do have a Jester in the game I think we should just ignore it. Would everyone be OK with that?

If SFG turns out to be a Jester I think it would even benefit the town to vote her off on Day 1 as all a jester does is cause confusion and delay Mafia convictions ~_~ Sharing a win is still a win!

im NOT a freaking JESTER ANYMORE. lynching me will NOT make me win. it will just make the TOWN less likely to lose.

Echo wrote:

I am reluctant to believe SFG is some special kind of doctor. Remember in that other game where I was cop? kuwarudo ragequitted claiming townie (which was probably the truth at the time), but SFG who replaced in became mafia.

well yknow theres not much i can do with the role ive been given other than try to fly with it. put yourself in my shoes, what if YOUR role suddenly got changed into some weird thing like this. i dont see what other course of action there was other than perhaps to pretend im a townie now and ignore the ability to help the town, which i think is kinda dumb.

Your posts are quite entertaining I'll give you that. You don't read other posts well though. It's time for beddy-byes for me now, but I have a few comments which I'll post tomorrow.

Also, LadySuburu is a guy? Moar confusing nick please.

So it seems like everyone except for SFG is a guy. Ew what a sausagefest *jumps off the fagboat*

Derekku Chan wrote:

So it seems like everyone except for SFG is a guy. Ew what a sausagefest *jumps off the fagboat*

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