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Current Priority: +304
Just Miku
17 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Just Miku
During breaks in a beatmap, would you add a timer to show how long a break is?
because its slightly frustrating when EG: you take a few seconds to stretch or type something in chat and it suddenly begins because the warning sign is way too late, and you end up messing your combo. (this has happened way too many times to myself)
It wouldn't have to be too large and could be in the bottom right corner, below the key overlay.
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat

Just Miku wrote:

During breaks in a beatmap, would you add a timer to show how long a break is?
because its slightly frustrating when EG: you take a few seconds to stretch or type something in chat and it suddenly begins because the warning sign is way too late, and you end up messing your combo. (this has happened way too many times to myself)
pause, stretch, continue?
Just Miku
17 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Just Miku

deadbeat wrote:

Just Miku wrote:

During breaks in a beatmap, would you add a timer to show how long a break is?
because its slightly frustrating when EG: you take a few seconds to stretch or type something in chat and it suddenly begins because the warning sign is way too late, and you end up messing your combo. (this has happened way too many times to myself)
pause, stretch, continue?
True, but i think it would be nice to know how long a break is.
Eg: if youre doing a marathon map and want to know how long a break is.
Also, if you're playing a map and quickly want to crack your knuckles i really dont think you would pause the game.
It just seems a nice thing to have to make you aware on how long the break will be
Just Miku
17 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Just Miku
Prove me if i'm wrong but I wouldn't think it would be that difficult to implement.
Marcin
osu! Alumni
4,944 posts
Joined March 2011
Marcin

Just Miku wrote:

Prove me if i'm wrong but I wouldn't think it would be that difficult to implement.
This argument never works
Just saying
*hides*
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
Seems like a nice enough idea. A lot of similar requests have been made to this, but I don't specifically recall anything requesting a timer

It'd be nice. I've had a few times sightreading a map where I jump for the keys since I decided to take a hand break where there was less than a 1 second break

Although good maps should have breaks on full musical phrases so it should be pretty easy to gauge
Just Miku
17 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Just Miku

Marcin wrote:

Just Miku wrote:

Prove me if i'm wrong but I wouldn't think it would be that difficult to implement.
This argument never works
Just saying
*hides*
I wasn't using it as a argument to get it implemented, I was just saying.
Just Miku
17 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Just Miku

CDFA wrote:

I've had a few times sightreading a map where I jump for the keys since I decided to take a hand break where there was less than a 1 second break
This happens so much.
Shohei Ohtani
Shohei Ohtani
Also, the edit button works nicely too :P. Making multiple posts in a row is bad owo.
Just Miku
17 posts
Joined December 2012
Topic Starter
Just Miku

CDFA wrote:

Also, the edit button works nicely too :P. Making multiple posts in a row is bad owo.
Yeah, you can go and look in edit, but nobody wants to take the time for every new beatmap they play to see where breaks are in edit.
Honestly i'd rather jump straight into a map blind rather than taking the time to look at where every break is and how long that break lasts for
and sorry about the multiple posts thing, as you can see i dont use the forums very often ;)
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat
he means the edit button on each of your posts :p
bottom right in the corner. you need to place your cursor over post for the options to appear though
Yales
827 posts
Joined February 2013
Yales
It's a good idea.
Ziggo
121 posts
Joined March 2012
Ziggo
So, is this feature request dead? I really like the idea and I don't see any reason not to add it. It could maybe be done like this:

A second circle in a different color
lolcubes
osu! Alumni
4,437 posts
Joined November 2010
lolcubes
There is no reason to. If you even listen to the music you can actually expect when a break will end (unless the map makes no sense), and if you see the arrows sooner it means there is a "pre-intro" into the section that is expected to continue, usually a stream or a spinner or a pack of notes in a pattern, which still follows a somewhat expected rhythm pattern.
Also it's possible to storyboard it if the mapper wants it.
Macacito
430 posts
Joined July 2012
Macacito
good idea
XinCrin
2,846 posts
Joined January 2012
XinCrin

lolcubes wrote:

There is no reason to. If you even listen to the music you can actually expect when a break will end (unless the map makes no sense), and if you see the arrows sooner it means there is a "pre-intro" into the section that is expected to continue, usually a stream or a spinner or a pack of notes in a pattern, which still follows a somewhat expected rhythm pattern.
Also it's possible to storyboard it if the mapper wants it.
Yes , about the arrows . I would like that arrows sounds like when one "pass" or "fail" or something like that
Macacito
430 posts
Joined July 2012
Macacito

lolcubes wrote:

There is no reason to.
in osu there are many "there's no reason to" things that are implemented why would this be an exeption
jesse1412
1,457 posts
Joined January 2010
jesse1412
This could be really useful.
Flanster
5,938 posts
Joined August 2010
Flanster
This could be usefull for me for the simple fact that sometimes I come across short breaks while im playing mania. I look at the chat during the breaks and in those cases I find myself suprised as notes fall and I fail.

Supporting this!
Trianix
9 posts
Joined September 2011
Trianix
This would improve the enjoyment of the game. Support! :)
thelewa
3,537 posts
Joined August 2010
thelewa

lolcubes wrote:

There is no reason to. If you even listen to the music you can actually expect when a break will end (unless the map makes no sense), and if you see the arrows sooner it means there is a "pre-intro" into the section that is expected to continue, usually a stream or a spinner or a pack of notes in a pattern, which still follows a somewhat expected rhythm pattern.
Also it's possible to storyboard it if the mapper wants it.
"listening to the music" is never a sure-fire way of knowing when exactly a break ends. Actually, "listening to the music" is pretty much useless in this game since almost nothing in mapping follows the music in a such a way that you could intuitively know what happens next in a map. The only way for something like that to happen would be if every single note in the map were mapped, which would basically just be a long 1/4 stream. And even then, you have absolutely no way of knowing WHERE the objects will be from listening to the music.

ie. never use this argument again, it's extremely flawed and if you were to argue that YOU can tell exactly what happens in maps based on listening to the music you would only prove that you're being pretentious and trying to seem special somehow.

Also, saying that ONLY GOOD MAPS are easily readable from the music is useless. EVERY ranked map in the game is supposed to be GOOD, but they are not. The quality of ranked maps varies so much that peppy should simply implement this feature because maps that make no sense to the music are getting ranked almost every day.
Macacito
430 posts
Joined July 2012
Macacito
your avatar doesnt make sense either
raww_old
raww_old
In every break i'm waiting to see when the halfway through break mark appears, to see if i can manage to change mouse position without losing grip completely.

Ziggo wrote:

So, is this feature request dead? I really like the idea and I don't see any reason not to add it. It could maybe be done like this:

A second circle in a different color
This would be an amazing way to implement this, knowing if you can manage to take a sip of a drink etc, in breaks, is very useful.

+star
RLC
Elite Mapper
1,006 posts
Joined August 2011
RLC
This would be a nice aid for your typical map, but I think there are some cases where this may detract from the mood of the map.
An example. https://osu.ppy.sh/s/45031
The suspense of the long silent break in the middle of the map would be ruined by a timer.

If this is implemented, give mappers an option to disable it in song setup.
Macacito
430 posts
Joined July 2012
Macacito
WTF WHY WAS THAT EVEN RANKED
Acruxia
52 posts
Joined July 2013
Acruxia
i agree. some breaks are is less than 3 sec. i got trouble because i don't use z/x as tapping key, when i released my fingers and result in panic looking for the tapping keys meanwhile looking at the break arrows. also, the worst case is having a first try of a song on multiplayer.
l0li
10 posts
Joined January 2014
l0li
hello, i'm here to revive this feature request that I think deserves some attention! =)
Satyrsaw
89 posts
Joined March 2013
Satyrsaw
Good, i have hadso many issues with the breaks in so many maps, i cant even name a number. But This is one realy good Idea, Peppy has to says what he think about this. Cuz its great :D.
DJTACO
1 post
Joined February 2013
DJTACO
I like the idea of a timer, although the question is where would the timer be located, and could you edit it in a skin. Just a thought I had, and also would we keep the arrows?
gregest
809 posts
Joined February 2014
gregest
plz,stop necroposting
Oinari-sama
osu! Alumni
3,403 posts
Joined July 2010
Oinari-sama

CptBlackBird wrote:

plz,stop necroposting
"Necro" (called "Bumping" here) is preferred in the Feature Request forum rather than opening new, duplicating, topics.

I'll take this chance to ask everyone to read the Guidelines for bumping a request for future references.
Xheriux
31 posts
Joined June 2014
Xheriux
I like the idea
Karuta-_old_1
947 posts
Joined November 2009
Karuta-_old_1
Other than for marathons where you really need to reposition or stretch, I don't really think you would need this

I'd rather leave it to the beatmapper to decide whether they want to put a timer in or not, like this one
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/73958
Dephix
86 posts
Joined February 2015
Dephix
bumping
I Give Up
1,648 posts
Joined January 2014
I Give Up
Timers are cool. Have a star.
xasuma
The First Completionist
1,011 posts
Joined August 2013
xasuma
I like this a lot. If someone doesn't want it. It can always have a blank image I assume to not show it.
unboundlife
13 posts
Joined December 2013
unboundlife
I like this idea too. It's quite useful if you want to fix your hand position or take a sip from your drink. I hope this gets implemented!
PieInOblivion
124 posts
Joined November 2014
PieInOblivion
I think this could be useful, but as said before. Why not just hit pause?
But you might still want to listen to the music and stay 'In-The-Groove' and pausing kills the mood.
Cool idea, I Like It!
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-
I really like this
Especially for maps which have long breaks, especially unfinished collab/marathons, where you sometimes need to wait 1-2 minutes before the next part starts
PieInOblivion
124 posts
Joined November 2014
PieInOblivion
This is just a quick throw together, but you mean, kind of like this?
http://puu.sh/j0Ihn.jpg
Horrible job I know.

Is this kind of what you had in-mind? (Except in-game)
Bara-
11,978 posts
Joined April 2013
Bara-

PieInOblivion wrote:

This is just a quick throw together, but you mean, kind of like this?
http://puu.sh/j0Ihn.jpg
Horrible job I know.

Is this kind of what you had in-mind? (Except in-game)
The image doesn't work ;-;
Oh, please add it between [img] tags, makes it easier to read
So it'll look like this
[img]http://puu.sh/j0Ihn.jpg[/img]
PieInOblivion
124 posts
Joined November 2014
PieInOblivion
Sorry, I uploaded it, then wasn't happy with it, so I took it down, fixed it, and forgot to re-upload...
EDIT: Can't find the photo... So, 'Imagine' a small timer in the bottom of the break screen...
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