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Machiavellian
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
It also helps not being sleep deprived
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Everyone improves/progresses at their own rate. Also lots of people just play more consistently/grind harder than you do. Look at other peoples play history graphs compared to yours. People that are improving faster probably put more plays in per month than you do. Most top players are hitting well over 2k plays per month at the very least.
But this is a very individual thing and you shouldn't compare yourself to others.
But this is a very individual thing and you shouldn't compare yourself to others.
I don't think it helps that I had to learn about you in history class. Also, I personally think talent is a big part of the game. Being in optimal conditions (have enough water, food, sleep, etc.) also helps, but I think that honestly some people are just built for clicking circles. Also practicing the right things, practicing a variety and pushing one skillset at a time is a good strategy I find.
Machiavellian
I don't think this really answers my question. I play enough, I know I do. The people who are 5 digit with less hours than me usually have less plays per month than me. Also literally every top 10 player I know of has taken months or even years off and come back even better. With all of that in mind I don't think that they play more consistently is a valid argument as it seems they actually play less consistently. Also not comparing yourself to others is literally impossible when there's a humongous number right with your name that says what rank you are at all times. I want to know what they are doing differently if anything.darkness12z wrote:
Everyone improves/progresses at their own rate. Also lots of people just play more consistently/grind harder than you do. Look at other peoples play history graphs compared to yours. People that are improving faster probably put more plays in per month than you do. Most top players are hitting well over 2k plays per month at the very least.
But this is a very individual thing and you shouldn't compare yourself to others.
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
I have no room to speak when it comes to improving fast, as I'm still 5 digit with 1,380 hours and 76,620 playcount. However, as much as it pains me to say it, talent may play some role in how fast a player improves. It also may be that they're pushing themself a lot harder than you are, or maybe they just know how to play the game in a "more effective way". Or simply their playstyle is just worth more PP than your playstyle. Or simply they find the skillset they're best at and just grind it for rank.
My advice is just don't care about it, everyone improves at a different rate and everyone plays the game differently. As long as you're playing you are going to improve.
My advice is just don't care about it, everyone improves at a different rate and everyone plays the game differently. As long as you're playing you are going to improve.
Talent
Machiavellian
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
Yeah pretty much that. It's just easier to get good at something when you're still young.Machiavellian wrote:
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
Yeah because they are short/compressed so they have to travel less distance to tap XDIryN wrote:
Yeah pretty much that. It's just easier to get good at something when you're still young.Machiavellian wrote:
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
im pretty tall tho (in asian standards)manishmathur wrote:
Yeah because they are short/compressed so they have to travel less distance to tap XDIryN wrote:
Yeah pretty much that. It's just easier to get good at something when you're still young.Machiavellian wrote:
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
You are not youngIryN wrote:
im pretty tall tho (in asian standards)manishmathur wrote:
Yeah because they are short/compressed so they have to travel less distance to tap XDIryN wrote:
Yeah pretty much that. It's just easier to get good at something when you're still young.Machiavellian wrote:
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
I'm 14 (″･ิ_･ิ)っmanishmathur wrote:
You are not youngIryN wrote:
im pretty tall tho (in asian standards)manishmathur wrote:
Yeah because they are short/compressed so they have to travel less distance to tap XDIryN wrote:
Yeah pretty much that. It's just easier to get good at something when you're still young.Machiavellian wrote:
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
JesusIryN wrote:
I'm 14 (″･ิ_･ิ)っmanishmathur wrote:
You are not youngIryN wrote:
im pretty tall tho (in asian standards)manishmathur wrote:
Yeah because they are short/compressed so they have to travel less distance to tap XDIryN wrote:
Yeah pretty much that. It's just easier to get good at something when you're still young.Machiavellian wrote:
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
yeahmanishmathur wrote:
JesusIryN wrote:
I'm 14 (″･ิ_･ิ)っmanishmathur wrote:
You are not youngIryN wrote:
im pretty tall tho (in asian standards)manishmathur wrote:
Yeah because they are short/compressed so they have to travel less distance to tap XDIryN wrote:
Yeah pretty much that. It's just easier to get good at something when you're still young.Machiavellian wrote:
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
New generation is getting taller and taller oof.IryN wrote:
yeahmanishmathur wrote:
JesusIryN wrote:
I'm 14 (″･ิ_･ิ)っmanishmathur wrote:
You are not youngIryN wrote:
im pretty tall tho (in asian standards)manishmathur wrote:
Yeah because they are short/compressed so they have to travel less distance to tap XDIryN wrote:
Yeah pretty much that. It's just easier to get good at something when you're still young.Machiavellian wrote:
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
That's why they improve so fast
yeah its a lot easier to improve when youre younger, fresh mind and all thatmanishmathur wrote:
New generation is getting taller and taller oof.IryN wrote:
yeahmanishmathur wrote:
JesusIryN wrote:
I'm 14 (″･ิ_･ิ)っmanishmathur wrote:
You are not youngIryN wrote:
im pretty tall tho (in asian standards)manishmathur wrote:
Yeah because they are short/compressed so they have to travel less distance to tap XDIryN wrote:
Yeah pretty much that. It's just easier to get good at something when you're still young.Machiavellian wrote:
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
That's why they improve so fast
How tall are you bruh?IryN wrote:
yeahmanishmathur wrote:
JesusIryN wrote:
I'm 14 (″･ิ_･ิ)っmanishmathur wrote:
You are not youngIryN wrote:
im pretty tall tho (in asian standards)manishmathur wrote:
Yeah because they are short/compressed so they have to travel less distance to tap XDIryN wrote:
Yeah pretty much that. It's just easier to get good at something when you're still young.Machiavellian wrote:
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
He is 6'6AccountWontWork wrote:
How tall are you bruh?IryN wrote:
yeahmanishmathur wrote:
JesusIryN wrote:
I'm 14 (″･ิ_･ิ)っmanishmathur wrote:
You are not youngIryN wrote:
im pretty tall tho (in asian standards)manishmathur wrote:
Yeah because they are short/compressed so they have to travel less distance to tap XDIryN wrote:
Yeah pretty much that. It's just easier to get good at something when you're still young.Machiavellian wrote:
Thats what ive been thinking. It seems that younger people improve exponentially faster, like mrekk was like 12 when he started lmao. Kinda reminds me of chess where if you dont start as a child you will never be a top player(obv not the same but you get the point)IryN wrote:
Which is why I said talent lol. If I improved faster than you and we pretty much do the same thing then that means I'm just more talented, that or im more affected by adaptive neuroplasticity (ie. im younger and I build muscle memory and skill faster than you)Machiavellian wrote:
I have a decent mindset and I enjoy game but ur 10k and im 135k and we have the same hours and u have like 10k less playcount than me? Like how does that make any sense? I really don't want to think that the answer is just that you're better, there has to be more to it surely.IryN wrote:
good mindset, talent, and enjoyment. Or at the very least that's what I did and it worked for me so...
Good mindset, playing more with the right practice approach that suits and works best for them, finding proper grip/tapping technique and developing reading in right way.
So basically, dedication, rng and I guess some talent.
So basically, dedication, rng and I guess some talent.
discipline
If you want to feel better about your improvement, just look at my profile. 600 hours and around 176k with a top play of 149. You can use me to feel better about yourself if you want.
They are definitely doing something differently.Machiavellian wrote:
Do top players know something we don't? How do they get top 10 in two years and get a 300pp play four months into playing while im 6 digit 430 hours in? Not even only top players, I see people all the time that are way higher rank than me with lower playtime than me. What are they doing differently? Are they just better? Am I just less talented, or not practicing enough, or the right way? HOW DO THEY DO IT???????
"What are top players doing differently?" I think this is a great question.
I believe it comes mostly down to playing smart instead of just playing more.
I'll leave you to decide what to make of it.
children dont have jobs and less priorities so they can focus on playing more (lol)
also thisLp9 wrote:
children dont have jobs and less priorities so they can focus on playing more (lol)
💯Lp9 wrote:
children dont have jobs and less priorities so they can focus on playing more (lol)
They develop good habits early on and build on them, intentionally or not.
playing smart, i dont believe in talent so skill, foundations, etc. also take breaks it works wonders
Doesn't that mean they know something that we don't lolx-chan wrote:
playing smart, i dont believe in talent so skill, foundations, etc. also take breaks it works wonders
ye probably but only the things to do to improve like what maps to play, what to change, mindset, etc. and nothing groundbreaking since it would still take hard work, i mean we were all newbies in the game in the past as well after all (edit: i for example didn't know how to burst in the past but after watching a yt video, now i am practicing streams and 200bpm bursts are ez). Also i don't really believe everything on the site is real since players play offline anyway so a 120hr profile could be a 4 digit but in reality has been playing for 10x that amount so comparing yourself to others wouldn't really make much sense imo.manishmathur wrote:
Doesn't that mean they know something that we don't lolx-chan wrote:
playing smart, i dont believe in talent so skill, foundations, etc. also take breaks it works wonders
just enjoy the game i'd say and you'd improve without noticing it.
Health and epigenetics
I agree with that. It's a big reason on why people from developing countries are less likely to be a top player whilst most top players are from developed or mostly developed countries.Fxjlk wrote:
Health and epigenetics
and they most likely can't afford decent setups + many of them probably have to work moreIryN wrote:
I agree with that. It's a big reason on why people from developing countries are less likely to be a top player whilst most top players are from developed or mostly developed countries.Fxjlk wrote:
Health and epigenetics
I started to the game a few days ago. My main goal to play this game was practicing for fps games such valorant. But when I started playing it I was having so much fun that I got addicted to it. And to improve I think all you have to do is have fun.Machiavellian wrote:
Do top players know something we don't? How do they get top 10 in two years and get a 300pp play four months into playing while im 6 digit 430 hours in? Not even only top players, I see people all the time that are way higher rank than me with lower playtime than me. What are they doing differently? Are they just better? Am I just less talented, or not practicing enough, or the right way? HOW DO THEY DO IT???????
6 months
Have fun. Practice all your skills. Dont farm. Thats what every top player says atleast. Also people dont improve at the same rate.Machiavellian wrote:
Do top players know something we don't? How do they get top 10 in two years and get a 300pp play four months into playing while im 6 digit 430 hours in? Not even only top players, I see people all the time that are way higher rank than me with lower playtime than me. What are they doing differently? Are they just better? Am I just less talented, or not practicing enough, or the right way? HOW DO THEY DO IT???????
Just less talented
Though it can be covered by working hard
Every player in top 100 improved faster than other player
Though few are exceptions and I am talking about 1 or 2
Though it can be covered by working hard
Every player in top 100 improved faster than other player
Though few are exceptions and I am talking about 1 or 2
The top players are usually young as well and they have more time to play compared to older people, usually.
Talent, genetics, a lot of free time, and a good mindset. Unfortunately just having the latter 2 things isn't gonna make you the next osu prodigy.
Even if the average joe at a young age did the same things Mozart or Babe Ruth did as they grew up doesn't mean any of them can become the next musical or baseball legend, anyone that thinks so is on pure copium. Although you can still get to a good point with a lot of effort but you'll get walled by your natural talents eventually.
Also your mindset, especially at a young age, can depend a lot on your upbringing. If you were born to a good family that raised you well then you'll likely have a much better mindset. And also if your family isn't poor or very strict and can get you a nice setup to play on.
Simply put, you should have rerolled genetics for optimal stats before starting the life game with your current build.
Even if the average joe at a young age did the same things Mozart or Babe Ruth did as they grew up doesn't mean any of them can become the next musical or baseball legend, anyone that thinks so is on pure copium. Although you can still get to a good point with a lot of effort but you'll get walled by your natural talents eventually.
Also your mindset, especially at a young age, can depend a lot on your upbringing. If you were born to a good family that raised you well then you'll likely have a much better mindset. And also if your family isn't poor or very strict and can get you a nice setup to play on.
Simply put, you should have rerolled genetics for optimal stats before starting the life game with your current build.
no one gets top 10 in 2 years bruh
people have gotten pretty darn close. nyanpotato went from 6 digit in early 2019 to top 10 by may 2021.Seofmon wrote:
no one gets top 10 in 2 years bruh
On second thought I think it's about knowing what and when to do like when to start playing out of comfort zone and when to play in comfort zone
Should you focus on one skill set or few or many
Etc questions which many don't know including me
Should you focus on one skill set or few or many
Etc questions which many don't know including me
armrests hold you back, remove them before they remove all your skill!- Virtu - wrote:
gaming chair
arms were created free of bounds, strong, independent. don't chain them down and limit their potential by thinking you need to support them. they will never grow if they don't have to.
LOL PLAY more but dont improve. Then take a break and you're stronger than ever. Genetics? Prove it. Doing something different? Change something everyday to improve. Have you ever tried focusing? Skillcap push, try harder, stop playing. I'm beginning to feel motivated.
Daiyas wrote:
LOL PLAY more but dont improve. Then take a break and you're stronger than ever. Genetics? Prove it. Doing something different? Change something everyday to improve. Have you ever tried focusing? Skillcap push, try harder, stop playing. I'm beginning to feel motivated.
Lmao, talking to a resticted player ironically asking how others improve fastI AM VERY SMART wrote:
Daiyas wrote:
LOL PLAY more but dont improve. Then take a break and you're stronger than ever. Genetics? Prove it. Doing something different? Change something everyday to improve. Have you ever tried focusing? Skillcap push, try harder, stop playing. I'm beginning to feel motivated.