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igorsprite

NotRaffi wrote:

So its
Igor
Sam
Bambi i guess

i think idk
asian*
KeikiEnjoyer
Ah alright then
KeikiEnjoyer
My plan was to gaslight you guys + penguin but i guess that failed
Joon Yorigami
what the fuck was being angry to me all about then raffi
samX500
fun fact, even if I was more trustworthy than NotRaffi, voting me out was the better option.

We voted out 4 person
-Itz-UwU
-Asian warlord
-YyottaCat
-Bambinex

What town should have been worried about is the amount of scum left in the game. If the answer was 2, then mislynching mean't town was at risk of loosing to any scum kill.

And it turns out that it was very unlikely that if I was scum I was the only scum left because out of the 4 lynch, I contributed massively to lynching Yyotta and Bambinex, so my scumbuddies would have to have been Itz-UwU and Asian warlord.

Meanwhile, if notRaffi was scum, it was a lot more likely that they were the only scum left because they did not contribute to any of the 4 lynch very hard.

So lynching NotRaffi was not really good because even if they were scum, they still would have needed more night to actually win while in my case, it was possible that not lynching me was the end of the game.
KeikiEnjoyer
dude the game is over you can stop with the paragraphs you're writing, I ain't reading all that
KeikiEnjoyer

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

what the fuck was being angry to me all about then raffi
so its more convincing because

gaslight, girlboss, and that one other thing
abraker
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LsfAeiW3u9xPypvzqwRt64niS7YqWuHo4n-8zO38-Ao

I was sus of Igor the whole time. I should have also used my ability to end night early instead of protecting and get nk'd. I was sus of Yhuan as well.

NotRaffi was always town to me. Yyotta was always town to me. I would have voted Bambi off last day too. Ultimately scum would have won even if I were alive anyway :(
abraker
Igor did a great job acting very town like, and helped town all the way through. That's why I cleared them in beginning. It would have been possible to figure out their alignment only endgame because of this. Excellent play 9/10, it's just the behavior can be telling, but I would not made anything of it. If you acted troll like as your usually do, there wouldn't be any way of figuring it out without a role and luck.
abraker
Sam on the other hand. . . yea, I thought sam was town until very end. That was a 10/10 perfect play. I even protected them the night I died. I have no idea what I could have done differently to figure out sam was scum.
igorsprite

abraker wrote:

Igor did a great job acting very town like, and helped town all the way through. That's why I cleared them in beginning. It would have been possible to figure out their alignment only endgame because of this. Excellent play 9/10, it's just the behavior can be telling, but I would not made anything of it. If you acted troll like as your usually do, there wouldn't be any way of figuring it out without a role and luck.
but now you know that i only help the town when i'm scum :(
abraker

igorsprite wrote:

abraker wrote:

Igor did a great job acting very town like, and helped town all the way through. That's why I cleared them in beginning. It would have been possible to figure out their alignment only endgame because of this. Excellent play 9/10, it's just the behavior can be telling, but I would not made anything of it. If you acted troll like as your usually do, there wouldn't be any way of figuring it out without a role and luck.
but now you know that i only help the town when i'm scum :(
it's gonna become a mindtrick game with damn you
KeikiEnjoyer
good igor= mafia
troll igor = mafia\town
samX500
btw, Yhuan made the good decision to revive para during night 3. If they waited like abraker asked, I would have RB'd them and used their ability to revive asian warlord on the next night and on top of our scum kill, we would have won the game.

Also, I kinda need to explain what happened on night 3 because it was kinda unfair to town. Basically, Shin made a special event where they gave town two modkill during night 3. So this is how we killed two person that night. I RB'd abraker that night because I was sure he'd protect himself (the modkill didn't bypass protect) and lied about using it on Igor.
samX500
*gave scum two modkill
Penguin

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

penguin you're the sole reason of our downfall
shut the fuck up retard, at least I actually played the game.
igorsprite

Penguin wrote:

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

penguin you're the sole reason of our downfall
shut the fuck up retard, at least I actually played the game.
😂
Penguin

NotRaffi wrote:

I'm not even defending myself, me being dead and me being alive doesn't make any difference, I can't do batshit anyways
Always defend yourself as a townie.

NotRaffi wrote:

My plan was to gaslight you guys + penguin but i guess that failed
Like, this is the scummiest thing you could ever do. You're playing like a mafia on purpose? Actually defend yourself properly next time, like, holy shit. It was SOOO fucking obvious that you're just being emotional and trying to gaslight us, which is EXACTLY what mafia does when they are put on the chopping block. Instead of trying to guilt-trip us, actually try and defend yourself...

NotRaffi wrote:

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

what the fuck was being angry to me all about then raffi
so its more convincing because

gaslight, girlboss, and that one other thing
You doing that makes us more suspicious. You literally started throwing everyone under the bus and started acting like a whiny child, don't do that next time.
Asian Warlord
Just in case if you guys are wondering who last voted UwU. It was UwU that made me hammer her.
KeikiEnjoyer
bro, you and Sam will vote me anyways if I defend myself because you trust Sam enough, Igor will vote too considering he's a scum along with Sam, para is dormant, and Yhuan will vote me too eventually because of the crowd and that you 3 will ask these 2 the usual "why aren't you voting?" question, I lost the moment Sam said "NotRaffi did a killing action"
Penguin

samX500 wrote:

Also, I kinda need to explain what happened on night 3 because it was kinda unfair to town. Basically, Shin made a special event where they gave town two modkill during night 3. So this is how we killed two person that night. I RB'd abraker that night because I was sure he'd protect himself (the modkill didn't bypass protect) and lied about using it on Igor.
what the fuck shin, you're so retarded. Mafia games in Off-Topic have been SOOOO fucking mafia-sided, so you decide to give mafia two free modkills? So stupid..
Penguin

NotRaffi wrote:

bro, you and Sam will vote me anyways if I defend myself because you trust Sam enough, Igor will vote too considering he's a scum along with Sam, para is dormant, and Yhuan will vote me too eventually because of the crowd and that you 3 will ask these 2 the usual "why aren't you voting?" question, I lost the moment Sam said "NotRaffi did a killing action"
it's your job to convince us otherwise, and you just decided to give up.
Penguin
also, mafia got lucky that I didn't get to kill that stupid retard pedophile on night 1
Asian Warlord

Penguin wrote:

samX500 wrote:

Also, I kinda need to explain what happened on night 3 because it was kinda unfair to town. Basically, Shin made a special event where they gave town two modkill during night 3. So this is how we killed two person that night. I RB'd abraker that night because I was sure he'd protect himself (the modkill didn't bypass protect) and lied about using it on Igor.
what the fuck shin, you're so retarded. Mafia games in Off-Topic have been SOOOO fucking mafia-sided, so you decide to give mafia two free modkills? So stupid..
Yo chill, it's his first time hosting a game of mafia.
igorsprite
@abraker i tried to keep you alive because i like to play with you but you were too powerful, sorry :(
Topic Starter
ShinRun
There are two protection ability and one resurrection ability on the towns side so it would have taken ridiculously long for the game to end if I haven’t given mafia two free kills
KeikiEnjoyer

Penguin wrote:

NotRaffi wrote:

bro, you and Sam will vote me anyways if I defend myself because you trust Sam enough, Igor will vote too considering he's a scum along with Sam, para is dormant, and Yhuan will vote me too eventually because of the crowd and that you 3 will ask these 2 the usual "why aren't you voting?" question, I lost the moment Sam said "NotRaffi did a killing action"
it's your job to convince us otherwise, and you just decided to give up.
what am I gonna say?

"I have evidence that Sam is lying" this won't work since:
  1. he "detected my night action"
  2. I don't have proof since No Night action
  3. I thought Y'all know I was sarcastic because Yyotta is already dead
KeikiEnjoyer

ShinRun wrote:

There are two protection ability and one resurrection ability on the towns side so it would have taken ridiculously long for the game to end if I haven’t given mafia two free kills
just give them 1 kill smh my head
Topic Starter
ShinRun

NotRaffi wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

There are two protection ability and one resurrection ability on the towns side so it would have taken ridiculously long for the game to end if I haven’t given mafia two free kills
just give them 1 kill smh my head
They already have one kill
KeikiEnjoyer
I want another game because I practically did nothing this game
Hoshimegu Mio
Shin's game was literal garbage TBH.

Idea was good but it turned into a mess.
Topic Starter
ShinRun
ay dont look at me

I did say it would be chaotic and messy
Joon Yorigami

ShinRun wrote:

ay dont look at me

I did say it would be chaotic and messy
at least make it a fun chaos, not literally unbalanced
Topic Starter
ShinRun

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

ShinRun wrote:

ay dont look at me

I did say it would be chaotic and messy
at least make it a fun chaos, not literally unbalanced
I never said it was balanced
abraker

samX500 wrote:

Also, I kinda need to explain what happened on night 3 because it was kinda unfair to town. Basically, Shin made a special event where they gave town two modkill during night 3. So this is how we killed two person that night. I RB'd abraker that night because I was sure he'd protect himself (the modkill didn't bypass protect) and lied about using it on Igor.
Yea shin making stuff up on the spot is what made me hate this game later on.


^ That one wasnt too bad, I had never used it, but it really gave me a bad impression of what else might be going on



^ This made me consider whether I should quit the game of a few moments. This was a pretty damn critical piece of info that was omitted from original role description.
Topic Starter
ShinRun
Yeah I forgot to include some of the role restriction and I also had to change a few roles
Penguin
My main issue is the fact that there were mod-kills and only the mafia was told about it. Like, it completely ruined all of town's reads and suspicions because I thought there was some sort of neutral killing or two mafia kills. It quite literally just ruined the game.

It wouldn't be as bad if everyone was informed that there would be a mod-kill instead of just the Mafia. Either everyone needs to be informed that something like that will happen, or nobody.

Or better yet, just don't add dumb shit like that.

Also, IF YOU'RE TOWN, STOP ROLLING OVER AND LETTING YOUR FELLOW TOWNIES LYNCH YOU. DEFEND YOURSELF AND CONVINCE US WHY YOU ARE TOWN.

Itz_uwu_playz - didn't even try and literally voted themself out...

Mixtrik - didn't defend himself whatsoever

Yyotta - refused to give an explanation for her suspicions and didn't defend herself

Raffi - intentionally acted scumlike when "defending" themself and gave up

bambinex - actually defended himself tbf (unfortunate that shin made him super sus by including two town docs)

also, please use your abilities.. bambi and Yyotta were so suspicious due to not using their abilities.
Amianki
I was following along and I could tell town wasn't on the right track just by the double nightkill existing. That was a huge red flag that something was up.
Amianki
Oh lmao

Yeah this game was unplayable
igorsprite
at least we learned how to not mod a game :v
KeikiEnjoyer
1000th post
samX500

abraker wrote:

samX500 wrote:

Also, I kinda need to explain what happened on night 3 because it was kinda unfair to town. Basically, Shin made a special event where they gave town two modkill during night 3. So this is how we killed two person that night. I RB'd abraker that night because I was sure he'd protect himself (the modkill didn't bypass protect) and lied about using it on Igor.
Yea shin making stuff up on the spot is what made me hate this game later on.


^ That one wasnt too bad, I had never used it, but it really gave me a bad impression of what else might be going on



^ This made me consider whether I should quit the game of a few moments. This was a pretty damn critical piece of info that was omitted from original role description.
Same for me, if you noticed, I spent the second day just trying to understand what my ability did because a lot if it was not in the info description. It didn't tell me that I couldn't target the same person in a row twice, and it also didn't tell me that my target needed to use the action for me to steal it.
Sakura
I wouldn't even know how to play a Mafia game with so much hidden information and only accesible via roles, which means people would also have to trust the people giving away said information.
Hoshimegu Mio

Penguin wrote:

My main issue is the fact that there were mod-kills and only the mafia was told about it. Like, it completely ruined all of town's reads and suspicions because I thought there was some sort of neutral killing or two mafia kills. It quite literally just ruined the game.

It wouldn't be as bad if everyone was informed that there would be a mod-kill instead of just the Mafia. Either everyone needs to be informed that something like that will happen, or nobody.

Or better yet, just don't add dumb shit like that.

Also, IF YOU'RE TOWN, STOP ROLLING OVER AND LETTING YOUR FELLOW TOWNIES LYNCH YOU. DEFEND YOURSELF AND CONVINCE US WHY YOU ARE TOWN.

Itz_uwu_playz - didn't even try and literally voted themself out...

Mixtrik - didn't defend himself whatsoever

Yyotta - refused to give an explanation for her suspicions and didn't defend herself

Raffi - intentionally acted scumlike when "defending" themself and gave up

bambinex - actually defended himself tbf (unfortunate that shin made him super sus by including two town docs)

also, please use your abilities.. bambi and Yyotta were so suspicious due to not using their abilities.
What could I explain? I explained but you didn't believe me. What else could I do?
Hoshimegu Mio
Yeah you lost so now you're going to blame everything on us.
Penguin
im trying to give advice lol
Jacques Chirac

YyottaCat wrote:

Yeah you lost so now you're going to blame everything on us.
I think everyone should learn from what happened in this game and try not to make the same errors again in future games.
abraker

bambinex wrote:

YyottaCat wrote:

Yeah you lost so now you're going to blame everything on us.
I think everyone should learn from what happened in this game and try not to make the same errors again in future games.
^
Sakura

igorsprite wrote:

at least we learned how to not mod a game :v
Actually what Shin did was fine but only if any of these are true:
- Mod interference was advertised from the singups.
- Bastard Game was advertised from the singups.
- The posibility of Random Event occurance was advertised from the signups.

Outside of the game being Bastard or Mod interference being publicly known from the get go, a mod should only be there to count votes, do end of the day stuff and enforce rules.
A mod shouldnt go in the thread to confirm any role or change roles up as they go along.

* A role may change if it's in the nature of the role changing or the game is Bastard (Where mod lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated are a thing, like false roles, or roles saying they do something but then do something else that is completely different from what they state they do without the player knowing).

That being said Shin being new and wanting to try something different is fine, just next time if you plan on doing things like this, please make it publicly known OR advertise the game as Bastard (if you dont want to mention what the bastard mechanics are).
Sub_kun
game over?
igorsprite

Sub_kun wrote:

game over?
yes
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