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IOSYS - Phantasmagoria Mystical Expectation

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Dragonslayerxx
19 posts
Joined July 2008
Topic Starter
Dragonslayerxx
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Monday, January 25, 2010 at 8:43:19 PM

Artist: IOSYS
Title: Phantasmagoria Mystical Expectation
Source: Touhou Project
Tags: Touhou Project
BPM: 140
Filesize: 7259kb
Play Time: 01:29
Difficulties Available:
  1. Hard (4.49 stars, 188 notes)
  2. Normal (3.92 stars, 128 notes)
Download: IOSYS - Phantasmagoria Mystical Expectation
Download: IOSYS - Phantasmagoria Mystical Expectation (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Comments and advise welcome.
Edit 6/9: Xgor's edits + minor changes
Edit 6/14: Offset change + Timing fixes
Edit 6/20: thepianist's edits + Added some more hitsounds
Edit 6/23: Fixed a few spacing issues
Edit 6/24: al2e10's edits
Edit 6/26: Timing fixes
Edit 6/29: Starrodkirby86's, Mafiamaster's, and Tieff's edits + Timing fixes + Added Video
Edit 7/5: Gens's edits (BPM and Offset Change + Background Size)
Edit 7/6: Symbolic's and SteRRuM's edits
Edit 7/11: MarioBros777's edits
Edit 10/13: Yes's edits
Edit 7/15: Shinxyn's eidts
Edit 1/4: Random Edits
Last edited by Dragonslayerxx , edited 26 times in total.
Xgor
Elite Mapper
2,534 posts
Joined April 2009
Xgor
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
K-S-O
298 posts
Here since the beginning
K-S-O
This map could use some whistles, finishes, and claps for some added excitement.

Not a bad map overall but it needs those hitsounds.
thepianist
544 posts
Joined March 2009
thepianist
I am lolling at the fact you want me to help do some hitsounds for you...

SUGGESTIONS ONLY! :]

Your offset seems off by a 1/4 beat.

Set up so that you have two timing sections with the second one starting at 0.14.184 with inherited settings. Have the first section have soft hitsounds.

Normal:
0.00.470 (1,2) Whistle
0.01.652 (2) Clap first note.
0.03.366 (3) Clap first note.
0.04.008 (3) Finish second note.
0.05.079 (3) Clap first note.
0.06.793 (3) Finish
0.08.078 (2) Clap first, finish third
0.09.578 (4) ^
0.14.719 (1,2) Move back in timeline one blue tick. It's late.
0.15.362 (2) Clap second.
0.17.076 (4) Finish third
0.18.147 (6) Move back in timeline one blue tick. It's late.
0.21.789 (4) Finish
0.22.217 (1) Whistle
0.22.860 (2) Rawr. Dun like the overlap :]
0.23.931 (3) Whistle
0.27.894 (1) Finish
0.37.641 (1) Clap
0.38.498 (4) Clap
0.41.069 (5) End Clap
0.45.354 (2) End finish
0.46.210 (1) Clap
0.47.067 (4) ^
0.48.781 (9) No finish on first
0.51.994 (3) No clap
0.53.280 (2,3) No clap first
0.55.636 (9) Whistle
Remove break
0.58.207 (1,2) Move back timeline one blue tick
0.58.850 (3) No clap first
1.00.135 (1) No clap first
1.03.348 (5) Whistle, extend one more reverse
1.05.062 (4) Finish
1.06.883 (1) Cut slider here
1.09.561 (4) Whistle.
1.11.275 (1-5, 1-3) Move back timeline one blue tick.
1.17.487 (1) Finish.

I'll finish this laters. Ye?

*Star
al2e10
1,101 posts
Joined August 2008
al2e10
I have some opinon with your map .

[Hard]
00:18:254 (1) move to 00:18:147 ~
00:18:897 (3) move to 00:18:790
00:25:752 (1) finish to 00:28:323

It is good :D

[Normal]
01:26:378 (3) change to 01:26:270

It is a good betmap ^^
Ken Cosgrove
43 posts
Joined August 2008
Ken Cosgrove
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Starrodkirby86
osu! Alumni
3,739 posts
Here since the beginning
Starrodkirby86
Whee~

[Normal]:
00:01:65 (2) - End slider 1/4 earlier.
00:03:36 (3) - End slider 1/4 earlier.
00:05:07 (3) - End slider 1/4 earlier.
00:40:85 (5) - End slider 1/4 earlier.
00:41:39 (6) - Make the slider start 1/4 earlier, but keep the endpoint at its location...so it'd be...uh, make the slider 1/4 longer from the beginning.
01:06:24 (1) - End slider 1/4 earlier.
01:11:38 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5) - Move 1/4 back.
01:24:55 (5) - End slider 1/4 earlier.
01:29:05 (1) - End spinner at 1:32:483?

[Hard]:
00:01:65 (2) - End 1/4 earlier.
00:04:11 (4) - Move 1/4 back.
00:25:75 (1) - Extend spinner by 1/4.
01:06:88 (3,4) - Move 1/4 back...?
01:14:38 (4,5) - Move 1/4 back?
01:25:30 (1,2,3) - Move 1/4 back.

After you make these changes, there's something you should know about the timing.

I knew after a while it was pretty odd to have 1/4s the whole way throughout the song. Even though the offset is correct, it's quite difficult to work in that environment.

Try an offset around 366, then moving all your notes to where the white ticks and red ticks usually are (Just like in many other beatmaps).

Star~
tieff
Featured Artist
2,254 posts
Joined March 2009
tieff
[Normal]
00:23:28 (1,2) - Spacing?
00:23:93 (3) - Slider shound end here 00:24:57 (Red stick)
00:41:28 (6) - Slider shound start here 00:41:38 and end here 00:41:71. I think.
00:55:63 (9) - Slider shound return here 00:55:95 and end here 00:56:27.
01:05:06 (4) - New combo.
01:06:13 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:28:41 (8) - Slider shound return here 01:28:73 and end here 01:29:05.

[Hard]
00:10:22 (4) - Clap on start.
00:15:15 (2) - Slider shound end here 00:15:36.
00:21:78 (11) - New combo?
00:41:92 (1) - Maybe... Spinner shound end here 00:44:06?
00:46:10 (1) - This note shound be here 00:46:21. And remove whistle, maybe.
00:48:78 (11) - End 1/4 earlier.
00:55:63 (11) - End 1/4 earlier.
00:56:49 - Add break here? Becouse of large hp drain.
01:05:06 (4) - New combo.
01:06:24 (1) - Remove new combo.

Star'd.
Gabi
2,554 posts
Joined December 2008
Gabi
i was gonna map this but you beat me to it..... so i want to ask, could i make a difficult for this sometime?

if not, then i would just like to point out that theres a video that is really cool that you should use for this. i can get it for you if you want.
Mafiamaster
osu! Alumni
3,460 posts
Joined July 2008
Mafiamaster
BPM: 140.00 (Sounds better to me imo)
Offset: 386
Resnap and recheck all notes.
Feel free not to follow BPM and offset, they might be wrong.

Normal~
00:41:28 (6) - Shorten this correctly

Hard~
01:02:06 (8) - Shorten
01:10:02 (5) - Beats like these should be moved 1/4 of a tick back.

Songs like these are hard to get beats right on. I blame the way the singer sings :(
Well good luck!
Xgor
Elite Mapper
2,534 posts
Joined April 2009
Xgor
It's still good but it feels like normal should have a break on 00:56:496 (hard has a break around that time so why dosn't normal have it?) and hard has a bit too high hp drain!

But other then that it's still great :)

Edit:Sweet a video! :D
Gens
osu! Alumni
3,485 posts
Joined August 2008
Gens
[Overall]
- Oh god, the Background's dimensions are 1600x1200. These dimensions are off-bound, and therefore unrankable. Resize it with with Paint.NET or another GOOD image editor.
- Be sure to place a correct preview point by going to the menu Timing -> Set Current Position as Preview.

[Timing]
Timing is off. Here's what I got:

  1. BPM: 140.0
  2. Offset: 1,669
I'm sure the BPM is 140.0 FLAT, but you can use Mafia's offset or mine.

[Normal]
00:22:21 (1,2) - I wouldn't do this if I were you, doesn't sounds too good.
The rest of the diff looks cool.

[Hard]
00:10:22 (4,5) - Not properly stacked.*
00:22:22 (2,3) - ^
00:30:35 (3,4,5) - ^

Overall, yes, I think the difficulty is fine, but there are some places where the spacing changes by 1 or 2 lvl3Grids. Watch out! Maybe you can get someone to nazi this difficulty.

* You know how to re-stack something to the endpoint of a slider, right? If you don't, turn off Grid Snap and use Distance Snap 0.0x, and try to move the beat.

~ ~ ~

Sorry, but I can't star this until you fix the timing AND the background. Call me in #mod or by PMs whenever you have fixed them.
Symbolic
519 posts
Joined June 2008
Symbolic
[Normal]

00:22:24 (1) - Let this slider end 1/2 earlier.
00:44:74 (2) - ^
00:45:38 (x) - Add a note here.
00:51:38 (1) - This note is too early after spinner for Normal.
01:06:16 (3) - Let this slider start 1/2 later and let it end 1/2 earlier then.
01:06:16 (x) - Add a note here.
01:21:59 (5) - Let this slider start 1/2 later and let it end 1/2 earlier then.
01:21:59 (x) - Add a note here.
01:25:34 (1) - Put this note 1/4 earlier, sounds better imo.


[Hard]

00:21:81 (1,2,3) - This sounds crap. Change it.
00:29:09 (1) - First: Delete this slider, then add a note on 00:29:09 (x), on 00:29:20 (x), on 00:29:41 (x), on 00:29:63 (x) and on 00:29:84 (x).
00:32:95 (10) - Delete this slider and make it a stack.
00:30:38 (3) - New combo here.
00:33:59 (x) - Add a note here.
01:02:52 (9) - Respace this note.
01:06:81 (5) - Put this note 1/4 earlier.
01:07:56 (6) - ^
01:10:24 (6) - Respace this note.
01:12:70 (5) - Put this note 1/4 earlier.
01:23:74 (2) - ^


Good map, but timing is kinda weird at some spots.
Starred *
SteRRuM
678 posts
Joined October 2008
SteRRuM
Hi!
[Normal]
  1. 00:10:88 (6) - Stack manually,
  2. 01:07:88 (1) - 1/4 earlier,
  3. 01:29:20 (1) - Cut by 1/4.
[Hard]
  1. 00:02:74 (1) - 1/4 earlier sounds better,
  2. 00:11:52 (1) - 1/2 later and don't cut,
  3. 00:23:31 (3) - Stack manually,
  4. 01:06:16 (3,4,5,6) - 1/4 earlier,
  5. 01:07:93 (1) - 1/8 earlier sounds better,
  6. 01:12:70 (5) - 1/4 earlier.
Gens
osu! Alumni
3,485 posts
Joined August 2008
Gens
Okok, everything's fixed, you can have my star ;o
Lilac
Elite Mapper
1,515 posts
Joined December 2008
Lilac
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
DeathxShinigami
1,176 posts
Joined November 2008
DeathxShinigami
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Shinxyn
osu! Alumni
1,179 posts
Joined June 2008
Shinxyn
By Request~

Normal-
Very clean map, nothing much to say, but..
01:08:31 (2) - I'm not sure.... sounds like it can go on the 1/4 blue tick at 01:08:20 to sound better...
01:13:45 (2) - ^ to 01:13:34?
Nazi-
00:58:88 (3) - up a tick and realign notes after (look at (1,2,3)'s spacing xD)
01:03:81 (1,2,3) - don't have whistles and claps on all three mixed together please... remove some
Redo Breaks

Hard-
hmmm the song is hard to follow... maybe try..
00:20:31 (6) - felt like it should go 1/4 back
00:20:95 (8) - ^ to 00:20:84
00:23:74 (1) - ^ to 00:23:63
00:51:81 (2) - ^ to 00:51:70
01:08:31 (2) - ^ to 01:08:20
01:14:74 (5) - felt it should be -forward- 1/4 to 01:14:84...
Redo Breaks

Yea... the song is hard to follow.... so I might be wrong about those..
Hitsound are okayish
Xgor
Elite Mapper
2,534 posts
Joined April 2009
Xgor
More modding becuse i want this beatmap to be alive ^.^

I noticed that the HP drain is very high on hard making it very hard to recover if you miss! (manly in the later parts of the song)
Kagatob
33 posts
Joined June 2009
Kagatob
Solid all around. I like can't wait to see approval.
Yes_old
525 posts
Joined May 2009
Yes_old
hard
00:38:09 (3) - maybe move to 00:37:99
01:02:52 (9) - make into a slider and end at 01:03:38 ?

normal
00:11:31 (1) - lower volume for the end of slider?
01:00:16 (1) - add repeat



'tis all. star !
pieguyn
2,020 posts
Joined May 2009
pieguyn
Normal:

00:39:38 (1) - Remove note?
00:46:24 (1) - ^
00:53:09 (1) - ^
01:07:88 (1) - Too close to the previous note
01:26:74 (4) - Move back 1/4 of a beat?
01:27:06 (5) - ^

Hard:

00:21:81 (1) - Shorten this slider by 1/4 of a beat
00:39:38 (1) - Remove note?
00:46:24 (1) - ^
00:47:52 (6) - Move back 1/4 of a beat
00:53:09 (1) - Remove note?
00:58:66 (2) - Move back 1/4 of a beat
01:02:09 (8) - Make this start 1/4 of a beat earlier
01:13:13 (1, 2) - Move all these back 1/4 of a beat
01:14:84 (5) - Move back 1/4 of a beat

Some of these may be wrong, as the song is rather hard to follow. In any case, nice work so far. *star*
thepianist
544 posts
Joined March 2009
thepianist
Hard
0.04.561 (1) Move back a 1/4 to 0.04.454
0.13.776 (Spinner) Shorten by 1/4
0.30.383 (1) Move 1/2 back, extend to original endpt
0.47.526 (6) Move 1/4 back.
0.48.383 (9) ^
0.55.669 Consider this instead of break?
SPOILER

Dammit I forgot to remove the...nvm
0.58.669 (2) Move 1/4 back
1.02.097 (8) ^ and extend.
1.22.883 (4) Move 1/4 back
1.26.847 (4) ^
1.28.026 (7) ^

Set a preview point? (ie 0.37.669)
AngelHoney
2,155 posts
Joined May 2009
AngelHoney
Hard

00:11:526 (1) - move to 00:11:740 ?
00:15:169 (2) - move to 00:15:383 ? and 00:15:169 - add a note ?
00:39:383 (1) - remove ?
00:46:240 (1) - ^
00:51:597 - add a note ?
00:53:097 (1) - remove ?
00:53:954 (5) - slider ?
01:11:954 (4) - ^
01:23:954 (3,4,5,6) - 1/4 forward


nice map

star~ :) :)
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