Tho i'm not the mod, in the most common situation they won't know, investigative roles will get a No Result, and if they attempt to kill someone they will know they didn't die (obv) tho that could also be due to protection.Raging Bull wrote:
@mod If someone is roleblocked/stopped, will they know?
edit: just made it bolded.
?Raging Bull wrote:
I still have one shot protect.
You should try mafia on mafiascum someday, there's a lot of experienced players there and also a lot of new players there to play with, activity can vary quite a bit, mostly depends on the activity of the players, I've seen big games where some players lurk a lot, in this game and this game, Activity stalled quite a lot in the end, yet they are 12p and 9p games respectively.DakeDekaane wrote:
I think huge games have this problems, I've played Mafia only here, so I don't know :I
lol, of course i wanna have fun as well, but yeah, many people already left and wtf.Raging Bull wrote:
God I don't really like people who join and then give up. Makes it harder on those who wants to play.
how? I didn't get that.bmin11 wrote:
To Irreversible, why did you Role Stop Lincolm? This could have resulted in Lincolms' death (Lincolm fails to protect himself and thus, invulnerable)
Yeah.. o.o'' I can choose someone, and he gets protected from abiliites, as far as I got that.. xDbmin11 wrote:
I really don't want to be the one to ask a rhetorical question, but have you ever thought about your ability?
lol how should I know if he uses it on hisself? o.Obmin11 wrote:
So what would happen if Lincolm uses his ability on himself? Honestly, you look like you are just playing dumb ._.;
He said multiple times that he's going to use it on himself. Meh.Irreversible wrote:
lol how should I know if he uses it on hisself? o.Obmin11 wrote:
So what would happen if Lincolm uses his ability on himself? Honestly, you look like you are just playing dumb ._.;
Yeah, no. Except, Backfire said he roleblocked yesterday, then your action confirmed.fartownik wrote:
Someone had to roleblock RB, and it wasn't me so it had to be Konei.
Lurking? :I I can't post in both games at the same time.fartownik wrote:
Nice lurking there btw, DD.
That's good 8)Lincolm wrote:
@Dake : May I know why probably Konei is lying?
Well, not sure about the order of roleblocks. Should ask NH. Also, it's still possible that Irre is lying and rolestopped bmin. Not sure why would he lie about it though.Sakura wrote:
How does RB roleblock bmin and fail? that makes no sense, either RB or bmin is lying. We know that bmin wasn't rolestoppd?
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Because Konei could have roleblocked RB, and making his roleblock on bmin fail. I wanted to say this to avoid any of them saying: "Oh yes, I did".Lincolm wrote:
@Dake : May I know why probably Konei is lying?
Welp, I should say all this power doesn't matter because town and scum can lying, but whatever...
Why would town lie?Lincolm wrote:
@Dake : May I know why probably Konei is lying?
Welp, I should say all this power doesn't matter because town and scum can lying, but whatever...
But Konei said you roleblocked by Konei... It means Konei didn't lie.DakeDekaane wrote:
Because Konei could have roleblocked RB, and making his roleblock on bmin fail. I wanted to say this to avoid any of them saying: "Oh yes, I did".Lincolm wrote:
@Dake : May I know why probably Konei is lying?
Welp, I should say all this power doesn't matter because town and scum can lying, but whatever...
If RB is lying, Konei told the truth, if not, Konei lied. Irre's factor is related to this too as:
I didn't get Tracker's ability (received notification), so it means bmin was rolestopped (by Irre or RB) or I was roleblocked (by Konei, RB or fartownik, but bmin has confirmed fartownik, so he couldn't be, unless bmin lied).
You don't ask Raging Bull?Sakura wrote:
Why would town lie?
Lincolm wrote:
Raging Bull is lying in the purpose, make scums thought he already didn't have doc power, so he can't protect himself tomorrow, so he is easy target.
Unfortunately, someone is lying and he should outed his claim.
This is my guess what have Raging Bull done.
Tell me know. If you said you wanted to Lynch All Liar, why you don't try to lynch Raging Bull then? And do you ever consider about your power?
It's not as simple as you think.Raging Bull wrote:
If your suspicious of him, go vote for him. God. So simple
Town should not really be intimidated by a possible mafia tracker. Only thing that a mafia tracker would figure out is towns' target pattern (and even then, the pattern could always change). However, for mafia is a different story. Tracker is obviously a threat for mafia and thus, role block. You would probably think Watcher would be the biggest threat and you are right, which made them kill him.Raging Bull wrote:
As for bmin, i should have thought about my action more, but i thought of possible mafia tracker is dangerous.
Problem with that? There is no benefit for him. Unless you just admitted to being mafia.bmin11 wrote:
The reason why he switched his claim was weird, but I could guess that he was trying to earn some town points. He thought I was mafia because of my contradicting claim. He thought spotting out mafia for town would make him look like pro-town.
Well this is my way of trying to make sense of his behavior. I saw no benefit as you said, so I came to the conclusion that maybe he thought I was the other mafia.Rantai wrote:
Problem with that? There is no benefit for him. Unless you just admitted to being mafia.bmin11 wrote:
The reason why he switched his claim was weird, but I could guess that he was trying to earn some town points. He thought I was mafia because of my contradicting claim. He thought spotting out mafia for town would make him look like pro-town.
Well if you did ANYTHING at night you wouldnt be alive (unless roleblocked)Backfire wrote:
Rantai, I just did nothing at night.
Can someone end my misery here?Sakura wrote:
Lincolm seemed very sure RB was town when i asked him why would town lie
Lincolm wrote:
Irre's can't be confirmed though. Hard to say. I don't know if my self-protect success or not.
I think Irreversible is lying, but my townread stay. So yes, I don't care this PR things.Lincolm wrote:
Welp, I should say all this power doesn't matter because town and scum can lying, but whatever...
^Sakura wrote:
Because someone who did nothing last night has a high chance of being the one sending in the kill since no one can send in kill AND use their ability on the same night.
It's true that I'm still asleep, but what the hell is this?Raging Bull wrote:
I mentioned why I switched my claim already. I won't explain myself again.
And just saying, it would be very stupid for me to role block you and kill pizzicato. You are way more of a threat than him. You actually know how to play this game. You both have pretty much the same roles so it should be even more easier for me to actually make a choice between you or pizzicato.
I hope you aren't forgetting our people who can't do Night Actions.Sakura wrote:
Because someone who did nothing last night has a high chance of being the one sending in the kill since no one can send in kill AND use their ability on the same night.
This is depends on the mod. My first and second games in MS, mafia sended kill AND use their ability on same night. My first games I was mafia so I still remember it correctly.Sakura wrote:
Because someone who did nothing last night has a high chance of being the one sending in the kill since no one can send in kill AND use their ability on the same night.
How you posted it, it isn't genuine. Not lie about your ability, your target.Irreversible wrote:
o.o Why should I lie about my ability? I think that's the main point that bothers you currently, mystic mystic
This one :DakeDekaane wrote:
@Lincolm: What's with my last answer? Can't I even think on who could be lying and why?
It is simply that Konei said he roleblocked you last night. The only know this is you and Konei.DakeDekaane wrote:
Because Konei could have roleblocked RB, and making his roleblock on bmin fail. I wanted to say this to avoid any of them saying: "Oh yes, I did".
If RB is lying, Konei told the truth, if not, Konei lied. Irre's factor is related to this too as:
I didn't get Tracker's ability (received notification), so it means bmin was rolestopped (by Irre or RB) or I was roleblocked (by Konei, RB or fartownik, but bmin has confirmed fartownik, so he couldn't be, unless bmin lied).
Jailkept.Sakura wrote:
Well if you did ANYTHING at night you wouldnt be alive (unless roleblocked)Backfire wrote:
Rantai, I just did nothing at night.
Lincolm wrote:
This is depends on the mod. My first and second games in MS, mafia sended kill AND use their ability on same night. My first games I was mafia so I still remember it correctly.Sakura wrote:
Because someone who did nothing last night has a high chance of being the one sending in the kill since no one can send in kill AND use their ability on the same night.
NoHitter in his opening post wrote:
The one executing the kill may not perform his/her role ability for the Night.
About what? Telling what I would have done instead?DakeDekaane wrote:
It's true that I'm still asleep, but what the hell is this?Raging Bull wrote:
I mentioned why I switched my claim already. I won't explain myself again.
And just saying, it would be very stupid for me to role block you and kill pizzicato. You are way more of a threat than him. You actually know how to play this game. You both have pretty much the same roles so it should be even more easier for me to actually make a choice between you or pizzicato.
I'm sorry for this, but...Sakura wrote:
Lincolm wrote:
This is depends on the mod. My first and second games in MS, mafia sended kill AND use their ability on same night. My first games I was mafia so I still remember it correctly.NoHitter in his opening post wrote:
The one executing the kill may not perform his/her role ability for the Night.
............DakeDekaane wrote:
@Lincolm, in my first sentence I explain why Konei would be lying. But let's be smart and trust everybody because if not you're scummy.
Let's see.Lincolm wrote:
@Rantai : Why you didn't hide in anyone? Why you didn't ask your power to the mod at night? And Lynch All Liar vote, why?
If this is based off your reads alone, not even a single shred of confidence is elicit from me.Lincolm wrote:
RB's and Irre's wagon should go to other side of internet. RB and Irre are town.
I want your reason why bus Konei. You picked Konei because of he is lurking, I know that. But why HIM?Sakura wrote:
I wonder if you read the past pages or not Lincolm, didn't someone say that scum doesn't read? both of the things you asked i've already answered.
I don't try to make a case to you. Why you think about that?Rantai wrote:
3. Because lying in an open setup like this (protective and investigative roles excluded to an extent) only causes town to be misled (obviously). Why anyone would want to mislead while being town is beyond me. Going upon that, if you want to try and make a case against me not slamming RB for lying initially (despite roleblocking), I have already explained my reasoning.
Which make me a statement, you didn't ask me to justified it.Rantai wrote:
So unless you have more information (oh wait that can only mean one thing), using absolutes like that is suspicious.
.............Sakura wrote:
why one scum over the other? what does it matter which order you 2 die anyway?
Oh, I forgot to put /sarcasmLincolm wrote:
After Sakura said scums cannot use his ability and his kill at the same night, you said let's trust everybody? And why it is scummy? You putted that as threat is scummy.DakeDekaane wrote:
@Lincolm, in my first sentence I explain why Konei would be lying. But let's be smart and trust everybody because if not you're scummy.
Why Tracker? http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/2370365/ Last sentence.Lincolm wrote:
@Dake : Why absorb Tracker? And you know there is disconnections in all powers, why trust everybody?
1. I believe RB isn't lying with his claim, because I can't think of a reason why he would. So my guess is that someone roleblocked RB or rolestoped me N1.Lincolm wrote:
@BMin : Your reason vote RB assumed that you're roleblocked by RB, but you get result at night. Justify your vote please.
Yes, I already read that, but I think that more likely came from town rather than scum. Inverse of yours...bmin11 wrote:
1. I believe RB isn't lying with his claim, because I can't think of a reason why he would. So my guess is that someone roleblocked RB or rolestoped me N1.Lincolm wrote:
@BMin : Your reason vote RB assumed that you're roleblocked by RB, but you get result at night. Justify your vote please.
2. I believe either Dake, Konei, or Irre is lying. Can't guess who though.
3. My reasons on RB vote are justified with my best on the page I voted.
My vote will stay as I think RB is the most likely out of four I wrote (Dake, Konei, Irre, RB)
IfLincolm wrote:
I don't try to make a case to you. Why you think about that?
It still makes even less sense as a scum. Best case scenario you get a town lynched for yourself, worst case scenario you get yourself lynched.bmin11 wrote:
It was a lot harder for me to understand his motive as a town rather then a scum considering how 1) he role blocked a tracker without a read and 2) lie on his claim with a reason that shouldn't even matter (worried that fartownik could be up to something with mass action claim while he targeted me).
So you think I'm Scourge because I want to check the veracity of our words? It's very logic.Lincolm wrote:
Make me think you're scourge.
First reasoning is understandable. I roleblocked you/attempted to because I just thought you may be a mafia role tracker. Why let you obtain information for mafia? We both know that what role you have doesn't mean you will be town.bmin11 wrote:
It was a lot harder for me to understand his motive as a town rather then a scum considering how 1) he role blocked a tracker without a read and 2) lie on his claim with a reason that shouldn't even matter (worried that fartownik could be up to something with mass action claim while he targeted me).
@DDRaging Bull wrote:
Still dont know about the whole what the hell is this comment about