It's actually "The best defense is a good offense". And yes, you're right. But a good offense is also a good offense. If you find anything else but my aggressivness, let me know.Irreversible wrote:
@Fartwonik: There is a proverb, which says: offence is the best defence.. now you know why I'm asking
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A good point you have there xD
Yeah, sorry for that mistake.fartownik wrote:
It's actually "The best defense is a good offense". And yes, you're right. But a good offense is also a good offense. If you find anything else but my aggressivness, let me know.Irreversible wrote:
@Fartwonik: There is a proverb, which says: offence is the best defence.. now you know why I'm asking
Sorry, but for now i don't believe you this offense things.. I mean, the way you answered this question again was super odd. I mean, I would have a reason to vote you right now, but I won't, since I want to know something about the others as well, and i have unanswered questions.
Btw: You seem mad: If you find anything else but my aggressivness, let me know. <- Why did you write that? It's like, you're not interested in my insights. Well, that's it for now.
I wrote it because being aggressive is not enough of a reason to vote someone, in my opinion.Irreversible wrote:
Btw: You seem mad: If you find anything else but my aggressivness, let me know. <- Why did you write that? It's like, you're not interested in my insights. Well, that's it for now.
The word "aggressive" starts to sound weird for me.
Also sorry, but what do you mean by this?Konei wrote:
Oh Irre, dont make fanderwik cry again.
It seems weird to me fartwonik, suddenly you got WAY less agressive than before.
Is it because it was true, what i said? Tell me your thoughts. I was like you're asking me questions as well, because you played that kind of offensive before.. i suppose.
Is it because it was true, what i said? Tell me your thoughts. I was like you're asking me questions as well, because you played that kind of offensive before.. i suppose.
correction to my post before: I wanted to write: You were going to ask me questions as well* (like, you would do that, you know)
Sorry but I don't get the point of your suspicion on me. Should I scream at you right now so I stay "AGGRESSIVE"?Irreversible wrote:
It seems weird to me fartwonik, suddenly you got WAY less agressive than before.
Is it because it was true, what i said? Tell me your thoughts. I was like you're asking me questions as well, because you played that kind of offensive before.. i suppose.
Also I didn't ask you questions because I don't have any.
@Irre: how can that statement lure the attention away from tiper? tiper is indeed lurking and he's getting enough attention because that. But I noticed Lincolm's activity decreased after all his show.
I go to take a nap and activity skyrockets.
@Irre: Those are rhetorical questions... or are they? they are to gauge reactions not for scum to come and say "Yes I'm scum", you can easily find scum by checking in which way each person answered.
Sorry if I missed a question, if I did kindly ask it again, I just skimmed through the recent posts that happened while I was napping.
@Irre: Those are rhetorical questions... or are they? they are to gauge reactions not for scum to come and say "Yes I'm scum", you can easily find scum by checking in which way each person answered.
Sorry if I missed a question, if I did kindly ask it again, I just skimmed through the recent posts that happened while I was napping.
@Sakura: what do you think about tiper?
Sorry about eh... 2 days ago? I was really angry.
Please, I don't need to explain something that is obvious. I don't understand how you guys thinking. I know some of you are new, but at least you need to think about everything. Setup, roles, at least understand that. Mafia isn't simple game. Many variations and you need understand the variations. Different setup and variations it means different plan, different plan means different mindset.
Look, I can protect myself EVERY NIGHT. The only problem if one of manipulator is manipulate me and kill me at night. I don't need any protective role in me at night.
Do you really serious with the plan? That was obvious joke. You don't even know my alignment and why you want to protect me?
Hell, why you should care about my reaction test? That is my reaction test, not yours. If you want to know the result, I can give, but why you want to know if it is reaction test or not? The only one who know it is reaction test is only me. You can trust it, or just ignore it.
What's wrong with throwing a question any way? It develops my read and what's wrong with that? I already explain that post your townread in this setup should not been done. It is helping scums, not town.
-Obviously big NO. Let's talk about 2 faction scums never kill each other. What we have? 4 scums and town only decreased. What is the weapon of town? Lynch. If we lynch liars and lurkers? Useful town get killed because scums have no worry about themselves (This is serious answer.)
-Because mod gave me scum PM? How did you know?
-Why I should stop you? *OMGUS ready*
The point is, you're the one who should read me. Not telling you that I'm town.
So, since that I never saw Kanye also. tiper also. If I silent to calm down myself, I don't think it is anti-town. But you point me.
Why I should not confident? I don't know anything about you, the only thing I know that I'm town. Pressure is a weapon also.
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So, someone said I should not double post. Or maybe post to many. So this is the result. Tell me your feedback, which better?
Unvote
I'm still sure about my read.
Please, I don't need to explain something that is obvious. I don't understand how you guys thinking. I know some of you are new, but at least you need to think about everything. Setup, roles, at least understand that. Mafia isn't simple game. Many variations and you need understand the variations. Different setup and variations it means different plan, different plan means different mindset.
This is kind of post I don't understand. At all. (Sorry, I place your post as the first example, no offense)Raging Bull wrote:
Honestly, it looked like you tried your best to look town by devising a plan and throwing questions left and right. You gave a decent plan, but when I kept questioning it, you played it off as "Reaction test" Well hell I don't care. It also looked to me as if you were trying your best to look too town and then having yourself nearly invincible.
Look, I can protect myself EVERY NIGHT. The only problem if one of manipulator is manipulate me and kill me at night. I don't need any protective role in me at night.
Do you really serious with the plan? That was obvious joke. You don't even know my alignment and why you want to protect me?
Hell, why you should care about my reaction test? That is my reaction test, not yours. If you want to know the result, I can give, but why you want to know if it is reaction test or not? The only one who know it is reaction test is only me. You can trust it, or just ignore it.
What's wrong with throwing a question any way? It develops my read and what's wrong with that? I already explain that post your townread in this setup should not been done. It is helping scums, not town.
Look at the above. Thanks.DakeDekaane wrote:
I knew Lincolm's plan was way weeeird :I (Specially the last day).
An Absorber also CAN be a doctor.DakeDekaane wrote:
Even if it was a reaction test, it was silly, but I don't want to take the risk of losing our Doctor for now
I never insult you. (If you felt insulted, sorry then, no personal things) You want to waste the power. It isn't town mindset. Town wants to lock the scum with their power, not by wasting power. You already played 2 games, and I know it, and your post that I responded last was fake, doesn't match at all with your meta. Even I was angry, I still can develop my read. Capslocking just make me better. Since when harsh talking is a scumtell? 5 years ago... or 10 years ago... maybe.fartownik wrote:
He insulted me multiple times. Also capslocking, harsh talking. If you don't see it then you're clearly his buddy.
Angry = panic? How you can treat that as same?fartownik wrote:
EBWOP: Also I didn't 'threat' anyone. I just provided my point of view on Lincolm and he started panicking.
My question can be look everyday and I don't need to explain it why it wasn't productive because for me it is productive and that's how I get the read. The problem is, why you didn't try to get your own read by your own way? Why I should follow your scum-hunt?fartownik wrote:
My suspicions on Lincolm were based on him acting too pro-town, throwing questions on everyone (as he calls them 'reaction tests'), while nothing productive has been given from them.
Though I already skimmed this and I know this is stolen in DIFFERENT setup. And also, I think RQS is stupid, but fun, like RVS. I never answered RQS before by the way, this is my first RQS.Sakura wrote:
- What are your thoughts on "Lynching All Liars" and "Lynching All Lurkers?"
- Why are you scum?
- Why shouldn't I vote you right now?
-Obviously big NO. Let's talk about 2 faction scums never kill each other. What we have? 4 scums and town only decreased. What is the weapon of town? Lynch. If we lynch liars and lurkers? Useful town get killed because scums have no worry about themselves (This is serious answer.)
-Because mod gave me scum PM? How did you know?
-Why I should stop you? *OMGUS ready*
Somehow I thought your plan was power role. Fine then. I was skimming. (And not stable)Sakura wrote:
It's a bit early to reveal my plan, as not everyone has responded.
Jeez, why I posted, "What if (someone) is scum?" then? It is working to everyone, but I just posted everyone who had manipulate power because they all who we need to consider. And also survival power though, but I prefer manipulator first.DakeDekaane wrote:
Your reasoning may be correct Lincolm, I was considering the same, but there's a small flaw: the alignements were assigned randomly.
Look, if I can prove myself as town, the only way it is by screenshoting my PM. If I do that, do I not get modkill? Or maybe self-metaing with, "Oh hey, I'm town, don't vote me", "Look, I'm town, you guys stupid". Or I should pretend that I'm town, like A said B is town because "something", so I did "something" too, so I'm town because "something" also. Heck, is this very productive?fartownik wrote:
Lincolm, if you can't prove yourself town in our eyes, don't expect us to take everything you say. You're so confident over yourself that you forgot how we see you. Again, if you were town you wouldn't be crying in the corner and staying silent for the rest of the game, this is anti-town as fuck. And if you can't swallow one suspicion on you, I must say this is not very mature from you.
Also about your Natural Action Resolution thingy - yes, it is useful. But it will start being useful in D2 when we already have the night actions done.
The point is, you're the one who should read me. Not telling you that I'm town.
So, since that I never saw Kanye also. tiper also. If I silent to calm down myself, I don't think it is anti-town. But you point me.
Why I should not confident? I don't know anything about you, the only thing I know that I'm town. Pressure is a weapon also.
Put your joke on.Irreversible wrote:
Ok, League of Legends Mafia was way more funnier :/ is everyone just inactive? ><
No townread. Please.bmin11 wrote:
mrph, I should really organize my reading into a post, but the madness this game has gone through has already made me fed up with the game..
Meh, how did you know I was doing that? (when only 4 people vote me for further information)Rantai wrote:
Lincolm was being a would-be-Salvage-turned-emo
Get to the point. Why are you lurking then? If someone have personal reason, like busy with real-life, I guess so. But after Fartownik pointed you, why suddenly you're active?tiper wrote:
I don't think he's a scum right now, but there're some lurkers like Nyquill and Kanye and he chose me. I mean if someone of them flips a scum there's big chance that others are scumz too.
You know I'm mad and why I should keep posting? Jeez... Really...DakeDekaane wrote:
Also notice how Lincolm disappeared after his mad time.
It is just you. Why you think it is aggressive?Konei wrote:
For me that sounded weirdly agressive o.o
Or is it just me?
It is already sound weird when they asked it, if you want to know.fartownik wrote:
The word "aggressive" starts to sound weird for me.
Look above. I did post it.DakeDekaane wrote:
@Irre: how can that statement lure the attention away from tiper? tiper is indeed lurking and he's getting enough attention because that. But I noticed Lincolm's activity decreased after all his show.
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So, someone said I should not double post. Or maybe post to many. So this is the result. Tell me your feedback, which better?
Unvote
I'm still sure about my read.
As i said before. There's nothing to hide in this game other than your alignment, both Lies and Lurking are ways to hide something, and i dont know why would someone want to hide the fact that they're town?
vote:tiper
There's my answer to you fartownik, I looked through his ISO and he's lurking as hell.
vote:tiper
There's my answer to you fartownik, I looked through his ISO and he's lurking as hell.
Sakura, I already respond your RQS. Just take a look. I hope you consider it.
Really.
Really.
Not considering it because you were already ready for it as a reaction test because of the whole Rantai incident, tho if you wanna know your answers read Town mindset to me, not like it matters now anyways.Lincolm wrote:
Sakura, I already respond your RQS. Just take a look. I hope you consider it.
Really.
RQS is obviously not reaction test. If RQS is reaction test, then RVS also a reaction test.
He misspelled your name again lol, nvm.fartownik wrote:
Also sorry, but what do you mean by this?Konei wrote:
Oh Irre, dont make fanderwik cry again.
If rhetorical questions arent a reaction test then pray tell what they are. I did read it, and told you the result, what else do you want?
Lincolm wrote:
It is already sound weird when they asked it, if you want to know.fartownik wrote:
The word "aggressive" starts to sound weird for me.
Lincolm, why was it weird when I asked that? Explain me please. In my eyes, he is weirdly acting. But I wanted to quit this topic for now, since i might be wrong.
^this just made no sense.. lol i'm tired
for any questions, or if i didn't read something.. tell me please, i think i'm sick (again) u.u
Jeez, I don't understand with this whole town mindset. Really.
I already tried but seems useless.
Look, there is many reason why town is lie also. It can coordinate the whole WIFOM to scum. Jeez, how do you didn't realize this? This is role madness.
There is many reason why people lurking. You already pointed it and still, I don't think tiper is someone who can read people. Inactive and lurking almost same, and lurking is null-tell. Fence sitting is scum-tell. Even if you're inactive, why you don't try to use your mobile phone or posting at least once a day? That is the question.
Why do you think tiper can read someone, really? In his 5P odd role he is also doing that, this is my reason why consider about him. If you want to read people who are lurking, why you don't give pressure?
Because you're town, why I should answer your RQS seriously? I don't even know you're town or scums until your alignment revealed.
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I'm tired telling this all of the way.
I already tried but seems useless.
Look, there is many reason why town is lie also. It can coordinate the whole WIFOM to scum. Jeez, how do you didn't realize this? This is role madness.
There is many reason why people lurking. You already pointed it and still, I don't think tiper is someone who can read people. Inactive and lurking almost same, and lurking is null-tell. Fence sitting is scum-tell. Even if you're inactive, why you don't try to use your mobile phone or posting at least once a day? That is the question.
Why do you think tiper can read someone, really? In his 5P odd role he is also doing that, this is my reason why consider about him. If you want to read people who are lurking, why you don't give pressure?
Because you're town, why I should answer your RQS seriously? I don't even know you're town or scums until your alignment revealed.
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I'm tired telling this all of the way.
Who are you talking to? xD
His aggressiveness is in your PoV. His defensive is in your PoV also. So, it is weird in other people eyes who disagree with it. I just disagree about that, so it is weird in my PoV.Irreversible wrote:
Lincolm, why was it weird when I asked that? Explain me please. In my eyes, he is weirdly acting. But I wanted to quit this topic for now, since i might be wrong.
But I like what you did in there.
That is to Sakura though.Irreversible wrote:
Who are you talking to? xD
To Sakura
oh, okay then.
good night everyone~
good night everyone~
Irreversible wrote:
Raging Bull, any further reasons that you voted Lincolm? I want to know them.
Honestly, it looked like you tried your best to look town by devising a plan and throwing questions left and right. You gave a decent plan, but when I kept questioning it, you played it off as "Reaction test" Well hell I don't care. It also looked to me as if you were trying your best to look too town and then having yourself nearly invincible.I'm sure Licolm had a fun time reading me though since I probably fell into this reaction test.
Unvote
Since I've forgotten almost everything I wanted to say after the game calms down, I'll just add comments as I review the thread. This post is going to be long.
fartownik: town
Irre: Null leaning scum
DD: Town
bmin: Null
RB: Scum
Pizzicato: Scum (So much PC in there...)
That's all i could get from the people who replied, I'm just gonna park my vote on tiper because lurking, and because i'm fricken tired of people asking me about my reaction test, if you want to lynch me due to this that's fine, at least i left my reads there for others to see.
Irre: Null leaning scum
DD: Town
bmin: Null
RB: Scum
Pizzicato: Scum (So much PC in there...)
That's all i could get from the people who replied, I'm just gonna park my vote on tiper because lurking, and because i'm fricken tired of people asking me about my reaction test, if you want to lynch me due to this that's fine, at least i left my reads there for others to see.
Honestly I still want to know why you have that mindset, because I don't get it. At All. And I already responded it. My reaction test to know your alignment and my mental notes, but I still don't know why you have that mindset.Raging Bull wrote:
I'm sure Lincolm had a fun time reading me though since I probably fell into this reaction test.
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Kanye - Dake - Fartownik still scum.
Don't want to post my townread.
Personally, I'm already tired with this game.
Me too tbh.Lincolm wrote:
Personally, I'm already tired with this game.
Lincolm wrote:
Honestly I still want to know why you have that mindset, because I don't get it. At All. And I already responded it. My reaction test to know your alignment and my mental notes, but I still don't know why you have that mindset.Raging Bull wrote:
I'm sure Lincolm had a fun time reading me though since I probably fell into this reaction test.
Okay I'm confused now. I did see your reply. You said this was just a reaction test right? I'm just saying you probably had a fun time reading me because I really just fell right into it. Perhaps I cannot type my thoughts out.
Reading everyone with reaction test is fun. Looked at their reaction, emotion, how to they post, etc. But your previous conclusion made me confuse, so I posted what I confused about you. Sorry making you confused also.Raging Bull wrote:
Okay I'm confused now. I did see your reply. You said this was just a reaction test right? I'm just saying you probably had a fun time reading me because I really just fell right into it. Perhaps I cannot type my thoughts out.
Meh, I'm bad at writing also. I'm too strive with myself in writing. Experience will lead you.
@_@
Anyway, tiper seemed to be extremely defensive when called out for lurking. Instead of explaining why he simply pointed the finger at other people. That alone is enough for me.
@Lincolm, that line about you was simply an observation based on a 3rd party perspective. You seemed aggressive in a way that reminded me of Salvage but then you lost your composure for whatever reason.
Anyway, tiper seemed to be extremely defensive when called out for lurking. Instead of explaining why he simply pointed the finger at other people. That alone is enough for me.
@Lincolm, that line about you was simply an observation based on a 3rd party perspective. You seemed aggressive in a way that reminded me of Salvage but then you lost your composure for whatever reason.
Where the heck is this at? This game is so interesting when I leave but when I come back it's pretty much like "look at what you missed while you were out sleeping".Rantai wrote:
Anyway, tiper seemed to be extremely defensive when called out for lurking. Instead of explaining why he simply pointed the finger at other people. That alone is enough for me.
At least you didn't have to read 20 odd pages to catch up ;Ptiper wrote:
EBWOP: And there're some lurkers as me. Why dont you want to vote for`em? It looks like I found some guys from your team(Nyquill, ShinseinaTenshi, Kanye)
Since I've forgotten almost everything I wanted to say after the game calms down, I'll just add comments as I review the thread.
RV RV
Lincolm thinks all roles are good and suggests a plan focusing on protecting himself. The majority has questioned his plan (naturally) and also pointed out that both Raging Bull + Irreversible abilities won't save him to begin with. I agree that the plan is awful, so he is being anti-town or having a secret intention (which he explains later). Also a RV on Nyquill.
RV RV, RV RV RV RV RV (seriously, you are not Meepo for Gods' sake)
fartownik questions Lincolms sanity. I have to agree that he looks too excited, but I guess it's understandable considering how long it has been since his last mafia game. Sakura points this out right after this post.
DakeDekaane votes on Lincolm for not knowing mafia game. I'm having trouble deciding rather this is a RV or a legit vote as how stupid the reasoning was. Actually, that was probably a RV. Moving on.
Lincolm tries to play smart. This was rather unnecessary and personally, I think this attitude later accumulated into a mess.
Kanye West votes his second vote on Lincolm for RV-ish reasoning.
bmin being late to the partyMatches his meta
Irreversible questions Dake - Kayne mafia line. I guess it is entirely possible for mafia to decide on who to vote, but it's hard to believe that they would do such thing so early. Normally, I would give him some town points for this, but this could also be an attempt on alignment fishing by other mafia. His intention to accuse them was rather weak (he decides to RV while scumhunting?).
Sakura questions Irres' stability (couldn't think of a better word). Could be seen as a defend, but she could have done a better job then this if that was her intention. Nothing much to dish out.
Lincolm calls out Kayne as scum. He doesn't explains his reasoning, assuming everyone thinks like himself. Calling out scum is where explanation is absolutely needed. Anyway, his reasoning follows later on.
Konei foresees a mess. Good call, but why? This worries me as a bad mafia behavior (nervous reaction for his scum buddy being called out).
This guy is still trying to figure out the game.
DakeDekaanes' post that I couldn't fully understand. Maybe I'm taking this a bit too complicatedly, but can you elaborate this farther?
Lincolm calling out DakeDekaane as scum for not knowing mafia game. These guys know how to throw at each other, eh? Anyway, same comment I made above on DakeDekaanes' vote.
Konei defenses Irreversibles' logic. Just looking at this post, this is a valid point. However, this brushes me to a wrong direction considering his previous post. Still, valid point.
Irreversible defenses himself. Not sure what to make out of. Was rather natural.
Lincolm still refuses to explain while still suggesting his plan.
fartownik declines Lincolms' plan while asking for a reasoning on voting on Kayne. Nothing much to comment on.
bmin pointed out a possible error on the first page. Good job, but not helpful.
Lincolm explains his unusual enthuthiasm and also, finally explains his reasoning. The reasoning itself isn't very convincing. Makes sense, but Kaynes' post renders this down. I could only take Kaynes' vote as a RV due to how early the game was and how he didn't even try to present a reasoning. Though, vanishing after that RV is scummy.
Posts those are not so important
Irreversible calls out on lurkers. Good job.
Sakura thinks Kaynes' vote was town behavior. Though, Kayne hasn't done anything Sakura has said (he vanished afterward).
bmin thinks role manipulates the alignment. Pretty dumb I found since it should be random anyway. Though, I must say it would be really stupid if the mafia took our only doctor lol
Lincolm questions "why so hard on Kayne?" Well, you are the one who brought it up. Why wouldn't you want us to question Kayne? More so, why wouldn't you want to lynch the person you found the most scummy-ish? Isn't that a lack of town motivation on you?
fartownik calls out sheeping on Irreversible. Does look like a attempt on looking town-like, since calling out lurkers after only 3 hours of mafia game is odd.
Konei questions fartowniks' aggressiveness. He has done another questioning on scumhunting with lack of reason. Why are you doing this?
Sakura asks the same question as I had.And I like ice-cream
Konei admits that he is calling out for no reason. Well, you should have had some kind of "erk" when you saw fartowniks' post, since it made you to post something.
Irreversible defends Konei. Though, his idea on "passive" doesn't align with what I think as as "passive" behavior.
Somehow, Sakura thinks Irreversible is town. I don't get it, so can you explain this for me please?
fartownik says his sheeping resulted from Irreversible being nervous. Again, calling out lurkers 3 hours into the game is odd indeed.
fartownik posts about Koneis' history on white-knighting. I would have to check his meta.
Kanye confirms his intention on pressuring. Though, it seems like he is more interested in defending himself, rather then extracting any info from his pressuring.
Lincolm calls out that Kayne is lying with his intention. I agree that his motivation was rather weak. I think the pressuring part was made up to defend himself harder. However, he really could have just wiped it off as a simple RV (that's what the majority though t anyway). Maybe this is a nervous reaction from being voted on?
Lincolm wants Backfire dead (and possibly Hika as well). Later, he says he doesn't anymore.
Some OMGUS votes with some rhetorical questions. Kind of painful to read.
Backfire hates Lincolm, Hika, and Sakura. I gotta agree with him (rhetorical questions make us feel dumb and I hate that feeling), but I disagree on his reasoning about... most of the stuff. No reason to hate on a person for its English (that is for Dota, not mafia) and your role is not useless. Finally, you shouldn't complain, since you had the chance to pick a hero (what did you expect from Techies?). I don't think I can provide a read from this post however. Too emotional.
Hika votes Backfire regardless of his alignment. Also, soft claiming her thought on Lincolm and Backfires' alignment. Only mafia should be worried with Backfire, since mafia would not like to target/kill Backfire other then a lynch. On the other side, town has no worries since they could just not protect him and wish he either dies with mafia or survive to vote again. I'm taking this as an attempt on scapegoat.
Goddamnit Backfire
Sakura want a policy lynch. Hard to call on this because you know.
fartownik does the same. Same comment as above.
Backfire posts that he has intention to help townies he likes.
Backfire plays a WIFOM, but I would have to consider this due to later moves.
Backfire doesn't get why he is being voted. Remember that they are pushing you for a policy lynch, not a normal one.
fartownik thinks Lincolm is trying to hard on being town. I think it's more of a Salvage case, going ahead of himself too far. Though, I agree on the last line, also adding general confusion on townies.
Backfire suggests a suicide plan. This pretty much throws me into a pile of WIFOM, especially after knowing of a role blocker.
Will be talking about this later
Bunch of "this role suck"
Lincolm wants Backfire to live. This looks pro-town to me. Opposing to majority for towns benefit is good. Ofcourse, there is a possibility for Lincolm - Backfire mafia line, but I really doubt that due to how things went. IF you guys actually are mafia buddies, good job on making this game terrible just to win.
fartownik thinks Backfire is mafia. Well, I could ask the same. Why do you think he is mafia? About Lincolm, I commented above some where.
Sakura comes up with a reason to lynch Backfire, but it only helped to open up the possibility of Backfire being able to become mafia.
You know what? Screw this I'm just gonna read. Way too tired.
RV RV
Lincolm thinks all roles are good and suggests a plan focusing on protecting himself. The majority has questioned his plan (naturally) and also pointed out that both Raging Bull + Irreversible abilities won't save him to begin with. I agree that the plan is awful, so he is being anti-town or having a secret intention (which he explains later). Also a RV on Nyquill.
RV RV, RV RV RV RV RV (seriously, you are not Meepo for Gods' sake)
fartownik questions Lincolms sanity. I have to agree that he looks too excited, but I guess it's understandable considering how long it has been since his last mafia game. Sakura points this out right after this post.
DakeDekaane votes on Lincolm for not knowing mafia game. I'm having trouble deciding rather this is a RV or a legit vote as how stupid the reasoning was. Actually, that was probably a RV. Moving on.
Lincolm tries to play smart. This was rather unnecessary and personally, I think this attitude later accumulated into a mess.
Kanye West votes his second vote on Lincolm for RV-ish reasoning.
bmin being late to the party
Irreversible questions Dake - Kayne mafia line. I guess it is entirely possible for mafia to decide on who to vote, but it's hard to believe that they would do such thing so early. Normally, I would give him some town points for this, but this could also be an attempt on alignment fishing by other mafia. His intention to accuse them was rather weak (he decides to RV while scumhunting?).
Sakura questions Irres' stability (couldn't think of a better word). Could be seen as a defend, but she could have done a better job then this if that was her intention. Nothing much to dish out.
Lincolm calls out Kayne as scum. He doesn't explains his reasoning, assuming everyone thinks like himself. Calling out scum is where explanation is absolutely needed. Anyway, his reasoning follows later on.
Konei foresees a mess. Good call, but why? This worries me as a bad mafia behavior (nervous reaction for his scum buddy being called out).
This guy is still trying to figure out the game.
DakeDekaanes' post that I couldn't fully understand. Maybe I'm taking this a bit too complicatedly, but can you elaborate this farther?
Lincolm calling out DakeDekaane as scum for not knowing mafia game. These guys know how to throw at each other, eh? Anyway, same comment I made above on DakeDekaanes' vote.
Konei defenses Irreversibles' logic. Just looking at this post, this is a valid point. However, this brushes me to a wrong direction considering his previous post. Still, valid point.
Irreversible defenses himself. Not sure what to make out of. Was rather natural.
Lincolm still refuses to explain while still suggesting his plan.
fartownik declines Lincolms' plan while asking for a reasoning on voting on Kayne. Nothing much to comment on.
bmin pointed out a possible error on the first page. Good job, but not helpful.
Lincolm explains his unusual enthuthiasm and also, finally explains his reasoning. The reasoning itself isn't very convincing. Makes sense, but Kaynes' post renders this down. I could only take Kaynes' vote as a RV due to how early the game was and how he didn't even try to present a reasoning. Though, vanishing after that RV is scummy.
Posts those are not so important
Irreversible calls out on lurkers. Good job.
Sakura thinks Kaynes' vote was town behavior. Though, Kayne hasn't done anything Sakura has said (he vanished afterward).
bmin thinks role manipulates the alignment. Pretty dumb I found since it should be random anyway. Though, I must say it would be really stupid if the mafia took our only doctor lol
Lincolm questions "why so hard on Kayne?" Well, you are the one who brought it up. Why wouldn't you want us to question Kayne? More so, why wouldn't you want to lynch the person you found the most scummy-ish? Isn't that a lack of town motivation on you?
fartownik calls out sheeping on Irreversible. Does look like a attempt on looking town-like, since calling out lurkers after only 3 hours of mafia game is odd.
Konei questions fartowniks' aggressiveness. He has done another questioning on scumhunting with lack of reason. Why are you doing this?
Sakura asks the same question as I had.
Konei admits that he is calling out for no reason. Well, you should have had some kind of "erk" when you saw fartowniks' post, since it made you to post something.
Irreversible defends Konei. Though, his idea on "passive" doesn't align with what I think as as "passive" behavior.
Somehow, Sakura thinks Irreversible is town. I don't get it, so can you explain this for me please?
fartownik says his sheeping resulted from Irreversible being nervous. Again, calling out lurkers 3 hours into the game is odd indeed.
fartownik posts about Koneis' history on white-knighting. I would have to check his meta.
Kanye confirms his intention on pressuring. Though, it seems like he is more interested in defending himself, rather then extracting any info from his pressuring.
Lincolm calls out that Kayne is lying with his intention. I agree that his motivation was rather weak. I think the pressuring part was made up to defend himself harder. However, he really could have just wiped it off as a simple RV (that's what the majority though t anyway). Maybe this is a nervous reaction from being voted on?
Lincolm wants Backfire dead (and possibly Hika as well). Later, he says he doesn't anymore.
Some OMGUS votes with some rhetorical questions. Kind of painful to read.
Backfire hates Lincolm, Hika, and Sakura. I gotta agree with him (rhetorical questions make us feel dumb and I hate that feeling), but I disagree on his reasoning about... most of the stuff. No reason to hate on a person for its English (that is for Dota, not mafia) and your role is not useless. Finally, you shouldn't complain, since you had the chance to pick a hero (what did you expect from Techies?). I don't think I can provide a read from this post however. Too emotional.
Hika votes Backfire regardless of his alignment. Also, soft claiming her thought on Lincolm and Backfires' alignment. Only mafia should be worried with Backfire, since mafia would not like to target/kill Backfire other then a lynch. On the other side, town has no worries since they could just not protect him and wish he either dies with mafia or survive to vote again. I'm taking this as an attempt on scapegoat.
Goddamnit Backfire
Sakura want a policy lynch. Hard to call on this because you know.
fartownik does the same. Same comment as above.
Backfire posts that he has intention to help townies he likes.
Backfire plays a WIFOM, but I would have to consider this due to later moves.
Backfire doesn't get why he is being voted. Remember that they are pushing you for a policy lynch, not a normal one.
fartownik thinks Lincolm is trying to hard on being town. I think it's more of a Salvage case, going ahead of himself too far. Though, I agree on the last line, also adding general confusion on townies.
Backfire suggests a suicide plan. This pretty much throws me into a pile of WIFOM, especially after knowing of a role blocker.
Will be talking about this later
Bunch of "this role suck"
Lincolm wants Backfire to live. This looks pro-town to me. Opposing to majority for towns benefit is good. Ofcourse, there is a possibility for Lincolm - Backfire mafia line, but I really doubt that due to how things went. IF you guys actually are mafia buddies, good job on making this game terrible just to win.
fartownik thinks Backfire is mafia. Well, I could ask the same. Why do you think he is mafia? About Lincolm, I commented above some where.
Sakura comes up with a reason to lynch Backfire, but it only helped to open up the possibility of Backfire being able to become mafia.
You know what? Screw this I'm just gonna read. Way too tired.
-About Backfires' role
Consider him as semi-unkill-able townie. Mafia would have to risk to kill him and even then, they are better off killing someone else. It's better then nothing.
-To all who wants a policy lynch on Backfire or want him to suicide
Have you guys ever considered replacing him? As Lincolm said, this is a huge waste of a lynch/voting power. I could only take this as a scapegoat attempt + free kill attempt. I need an explanation for this (Hika, Sakura, and fartownik).
-FoS on Kayne
Kayne because
Consider him as semi-unkill-able townie. Mafia would have to risk to kill him and even then, they are better off killing someone else. It's better then nothing.
-To all who wants a policy lynch on Backfire or want him to suicide
Have you guys ever considered replacing him? As Lincolm said, this is a huge waste of a lynch/voting power. I could only take this as a scapegoat attempt + free kill attempt. I need an explanation for this (Hika, Sakura, and fartownik).
-FoS on Kayne
Kayne because
Though, it seems like he is more interested in defending himself, rather then extracting any info from his pressuring.
I agree that his motivation was rather weak. I think the pressuring part was made up to defend himself harder. However, he really could have just wiped it off as a simple RV (that's what the majority though t anyway). Maybe this is a nervous reaction from being voted on
Oh shoot, why?NoHitter wrote:
Ok then.fartownik wrote:
@Mod: asking to cut the length of D1.
The deadline is now 48 hours from this post.
Rantai wrote:
bmin is being adorable/scary bmin
I had a null read on you as always.
>:
>:
God damn bmin.
I don't even know how to contribute to this game anymore, I'm so lost.
All I can say is why the hell is tiper so defensive the moment he was pointed out as a lurker and he replies almsot immediately.
All I can say is why the hell is tiper so defensive the moment he was pointed out as a lurker and he replies almsot immediately.
Tons of people and no leads to do something besides look for lurkers (hi tiper), and it's weird, at least for me, that everybody are being selfish with their readings on people.
I think I'll just vote tiper and looks what happens.
Vote: tiper
I think I'll just vote tiper and looks what happens.
Vote: tiper
I considered a replacement, but I also thought it might be just a fucked up scumplay from himself. If he's up for a replacement, then fine.bmin11 wrote:
Have you guys ever considered replacing him? As Lincolm said, this is a huge waste of a lynch/voting power. I could only take this as a scapegoat attempt + free kill attempt. I need an explanation for this (Hika, Sakura, and fartownik).
@Lincolm: read bmin's post, you will see why I've been on you. Alos not sure why you still think me as scum, please explain.
My reads:
RB - null leaning town
Lincolm - null
Hika - null leaning scum
bmin - town
Kanye - null leaning scum
Rantai - town
tiper - scum
Irre - null leaning scum
Nyquill - null
Dake - null
Sakura - scum
Pizzicato - null
Backfire - totally fucking null
Konei - null
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT:
tiper (3) - fartownik, Sakura, DakeDekaane
Backfire (2) - Kanye West, Hika
Hika (1) - Backfire
Lincolm (1) - Kanye West
Not Voting (9) - bmin11, ShinseinaTenshi, Nyquill, Pizzicato, Konei, Irreversible, tiper, Lincolm, Raging Bull
tiper (3) - fartownik, Sakura, DakeDekaane
Backfire (2) - Kanye West, Hika
Hika (1) - Backfire
Lincolm (1) - Kanye West
Not Voting (9) - bmin11, ShinseinaTenshi, Nyquill, Pizzicato, Konei, Irreversible, tiper, Lincolm, Raging Bull
Because you were so quick to defend yourself and start pointing at other people instead.
Though I would have personally voted for you sooner or later if you didn't post since you just lurked. And god damn D1. I hate you.
Anyways if people care about my reads.
Licolm/fart/Sakura/Backfire is probably town, but backfire is just anti town as fuck.
Pizzicato/Nyquill inactive. Maybe scum?teehee
Hika seems scummy to me. Not much informative post, just filler.
Konei same. Tried question which I respect, but keep saying I don't know what to do makes me feel uneasy
Rest is pretty much null for me.
Also someone update ISO to include Rantai.
@mod Prod Pizzicato and Nyquill
Really curious on what Nyquill input is on the drama.and his last post said he is going home and read 
Licolm/fart/Sakura/Backfire is probably town, but backfire is just anti town as fuck.
Pizzicato/Nyquill inactive. Maybe scum?teehee
Hika seems scummy to me. Not much informative post, just filler.
Konei same. Tried question which I respect, but keep saying I don't know what to do makes me feel uneasy
Rest is pretty much null for me.
Also someone update ISO to include Rantai.
@mod Prod Pizzicato and Nyquill
Really curious on what Nyquill input is on the drama.
tiper
Doesn't make sense.
What happened:
1)fartownik voted for me because I'm lurker
2)I asked why me instead of other lurkers
3)Sakura voted for me because I'm lurker
4)DD voted for me because I'm lurker
5)fartownik posted his reads, he think that I'm a scum now
fartownik or DD should be a scum or I really don't know what the hell are they doing
What happened:
1)fartownik voted for me because I'm lurker
2)I asked why me instead of other lurkers
3)Sakura voted for me because I'm lurker
4)DD voted for me because I'm lurker
5)fartownik posted his reads, he think that I'm a scum now
fartownik or DD should be a scum or I really don't know what the hell are they doing
There's your problem.tiper wrote:
Doesn't make sense.
What happened:
1)fartownik voted for me because I'm lurker
2)I asked why me instead of other lurkers
3)Sakura voted for me because I'm lurker
4)DD voted for me because I'm lurker
5)fartownik posted his reads, he think that I'm a scum now
fartownik or DD should be a scum or I really don't know what the hell are they doing
^
What he said
You're basically trying to throw suspicions to others instead which seems very scummy.
What he said
You're basically trying to throw suspicions to others instead which seems very scummy.
DakeDekaane wrote:
Tons of people and no leads to do something besides look for lurkers (hi tiper), and it's weird, at least for me, that everybody are being selfish with their readings on people.
I think I'll just vote tiper and looks what happens.
Vote: tiper
why is this an obvious fact? tell me please.tiper wrote:
EBWOP: Someone of you is a scum, this is obviously fact. Maybe, Sakura+DD, idk.
@Lincolm and Sakura: You often said you're tired of that game, well i don't really know why. Explain in short words, please.
hm i think that's it for now o.o fartownik, you got suddenly so quiet, why? :3
Lincolm wrote:
His aggressiveness is in your PoV. His defensive is in your PoV also. So, it is weird in other people eyes who disagree with it. I just disagree about that, so it is weird in my PoV.Irreversible wrote:
Lincolm, why was it weird when I asked that? Explain me please. In my eyes, he is weirdly acting. But I wanted to quit this topic for now, since i might be wrong.
But I like what you did in there.
Well, let's really see how this goes on, because you defended tiper in one way, well you 'asked' him about why he votes fartownik.. if you unvote all of a sudden (so another one gets killed), you have my vote, because currently i'm thinking you're one of the two scumgroups. (with tiper) Not sure though, will look how it goes. (page 27, btw)DakeDekaane wrote:
Tons of people and no leads to do something besides look for lurkers (hi tiper), and it's weird, at least for me, that everybody are being selfish with their readings on people.
I think I'll just vote tiper and looks what happens.
Vote: tiper
^ do you want to avoid that we think you're scumbrothers? i don't believe you. Because actually one vote isn't enough to kill one - the perfect situation for you two guys. (well, otherwise it's OMGUS)tiper wrote:
r u serious, guys?
Vote: DakeDekaane
Why are you trying to bus me?
Vote: tiper[/quote]
why is this an obvious fact? tell me please.tiper wrote:
EBWOP: Someone of you is a scum, this is obviously fact. Maybe, Sakura+DD, idk.
@Lincolm and Sakura: You often said you're tired of that game, well i don't really know why. Explain in short words, please.
hm i think that's it for now o.o fartownik, you got suddenly so quiet, why? :3
THE POST ABOVE ISN'T THE ONE I WANTED TO SEND, TAKE THIS ONE (it has the same things in it)
-.- pls, i hate this quoting system: for information i didn't vote tiper!!!
Ok, i'm finally at home
Ok, i'm finally at home
good point, but well. PoV = Pointing of View, right? and this should be added as well, sorry for that confuseLincolm wrote:
His aggressiveness is in your PoV. His defensive is in your PoV also. So, it is weird in other people eyes who disagree with it. I just disagree about that, so it is weird in my PoV.Irreversible wrote:
Lincolm, why was it weird when I asked that? Explain me please. In my eyes, he is weirdly acting. But I wanted to quit this topic for now, since i might be wrong.
But I like what you did in there.
Tasty scumslip is tasty, not sure if serious or...tiper wrote:
r u serious, guys?
Vote: DakeDekaane
Why are you trying to bus me?
Sakura, i think you missed my question, why you're tired of that game.
Because i'm not having much fun with it, everyone seems to just get angry and yell and troll and etc.Irreversible wrote:
Sakura, i think you missed my question, why you're tired of that game.
oh i see. i understand that though, but lincolm, you seem to get angry because of that as well.. so you're tired of yourself? o:
Bus you? tiper pls. I'm not scum as you are, don't try to make me fall with you, because that won't work. Why me instead others from your wagon?tiper wrote:
r u serious, guys?
Vote: DakeDekaane
Why are you trying to bus me?
I'm not going to believe that you're his partner yet, but only going to say that only mafia can be bused (by other mafia obv), so he's also pretty much admitting to being scum just with that. If you're both members of the same faction then that slip might as well have painted a targetting mark on you for the opposing faction anyway.
Why did you ignore my statement about that i will vote you, if you're going to unvote all of a sudden? (if tiper would get killed because of you)DakeDekaane wrote:
Bus you? tiper pls. I'm not scum as you are, don't try to make me fall with you, because that won't work. Why me instead others from your wagon?tiper wrote:
r u serious, guys?
Vote: DakeDekaane
Why are you trying to bus me?
Let me read all of this new stuff. :I
And you people are mean, didn't you guys see my softclaim?
And you people are mean, didn't you guys see my softclaim?
Anyone can softclaim it
Prod: Backfire
Also, I'm okay with lynching Kayne, Konei, Hika, and tiper for today
Prod: Backfire
Also, I'm okay with lynching Kayne, Konei, Hika, and tiper for today
@Irre: why should I unvote? I'm pretty sure tiper is scum.
@Dake: Just in case you're going to unvote, THEN i have my FoS on you for sure.
Pre-emptive accusation? that sounds like you want tiper lynched no matter what.Irreversible wrote:
@Dake: Just in case you're going to unvote, THEN i have my FoS on you for sure.
@Sakura: no, i don't want that. If you read my things before, i will have my FoS on dake if he's unvoting, not because of he doesn't get killed then, but because then i'm pretty sure that they are scumfriends. do you get that? if not because of my crappy english, i will try to explain again.
And yet you aren't voting him.
?? you're totally getting me wrong.
For clarification my previous post was made before I had knowledge of Irre's last post.
Oh I see then, nvm to my last comment
So basically you don't think tiper's scum, yet you're suspicious of DD if he unvotes him?
>Doesn't think tiper's scum
>Encourages people to not move their vote off him.
Does not compute.
>Doesn't think tiper's scum
>Encourages people to not move their vote off him.
Does not compute.
I'm wondering why you focus on this right now, you want to defend him as well? I think i should overthink the whole thing again.
I said that i think dake and tiper could be scumfriends, if you have read my previous posts. And i actually don't know who else voted him oO
@mod: votecount please
I said that i think dake and tiper could be scumfriends, if you have read my previous posts. And i actually don't know who else voted him oO
@mod: votecount please
What are you basing this on? just because tiper said he was being bused by DD?Irreversible wrote:
I said that i think dake and tiper could be scumfriends
Well 1) Tiper seemed to made OMGUS: but for me, it just seems fake ..
2) Dake tried to get the attention to lincolm, this seems weird to me as well.
3)
2) Dake tried to get the attention to lincolm, this seems weird to me as well.
3)
BUT THE IMPORTANT THING: I don't want to vote anything right now, because this statement needs time, to see how it envolves. Why did you avoid my question again Sakura?DakeDekaane wrote:
Bus you? tiper pls. I'm not scum as you are, don't try to make me fall with you, because that won't work. Why me instead others from your wagon?tiper wrote:
r u serious, guys?
Vote: DakeDekaane
Why are you trying to bus me?
I never tried to focus the attention on Lincolm, in fact I was acussing tiper, and commenting my thoughts on Lincolm, what he explained later and seems, valid¿?
@Irre what statement? Aren't you something with tiper and try to put suspicious on me if I unvote him?
@Irre what statement? Aren't you something with tiper and try to put suspicious on me if I unvote him?
Welp, the reason is only personal reason though. I couldn't hold it. Sorry for that. I never know about Salvage.Rantai wrote:
@Lincolm, that line about you was simply an observation based on a 3rd party perspective. You seemed aggressive in a way that reminded me of Salvage but then you lost your composure for whatever reason.
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Jeez, BMin, I don't know how to respond all of them.
Maybe the important point? Perhaps that's work.
I prefer tell my reason in short sentence and to the point. The link about I called Kanye as scum, I already wrote it also in there, the bottom sentence. But, Kanye still didn't respond about it, so I think maybe I'm right. I'm still waiting his respond also, but if he didn't respond it, my conclusion stay.
I don't know which part "Dake's doesn't know mafia game". I already played with him once, so I think he already knows how mafia game works. He also pointed his role about his role, it means he knew how his role work. Dake's vote was in me before, I think it was serious because of my "plan". Even though I already explained the reason of my "plan" now, perhaps I need to ask that to Dake also.
That's nice question, I should wrote "Why only asked about Kanye?". I brought it up in the side of my question.
Just to say, I don't like Backfire. So personally if he wants to 'bom', I let him, this is personal thing, I just brought it with emotion. But convince someone to go 'bom', revealing when he wants to 'bom', that is not how that role works. Even though I don't like him, I had leaning town, so I want the role to work properly. I'm hoping too much, I must slash this.
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I should agree with this. Probably need reread any way. It is the way you convince Backfire to suicide. I know that he isn't helping, but seriously, PGO is a quiet strong role if you know how to use the role. It is very intimidate scum also. But in this condition, I should agree with what have you done though. And also, meta things. But I just brought it too far away because... emotion.fartownik wrote:
@Lincolm: read bmin's post, you will see why I've been on you. Alos not sure why you still think me as scum, please explain.
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I should agree with this, tiper. And you didn't answer my question, why you didn''t defend yourself about your lurking? I must say, you're not lurking, but fence-sitting. And this is scum-tell.Rantai wrote:
There's your problem.tiper wrote:
Doesn't make sense.
What happened:
1)fartownik voted for me because I'm lurker
2)I asked why me instead of other lurkers
3)Sakura voted for me because I'm lurker
4)DD voted for me because I'm lurker
5)fartownik posted his reads, he think that I'm a scum now
fartownik or DD should be a scum or I really don't know what the hell are they doing
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Probably because I explained something many times and... you know what happen 2 days ago. Sorry for that. And, I hate to consider "newbie cards" also. But this is happening.Irreversible wrote:
@Lincolm and Sakura: You often said you're tired of that game, well i don't really know why. Explain in short words, please.
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I like Sakura's and Irreversible's exchange here. Look at possibility that tiper maybe just scumslipped, maybe tiper in same faction with Dake (Irreversible), or not (Sakura). I like both choice. But personally, it is just WIFOM created by scum, if he is scum.
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By the way, when is the deadline? I don't want policy lynch also.
Looks like I like my old posting style again, big one post. I hope you don't mind.
Which parts are invalid? I think it is valid. Because that is my reason.DakeDekaane wrote:
he explained later and seems, valid¿?
At least you are able to do that, it doesn't end in a big mess like mine XD
Dead line is in 11 hours
I still stand with this. I'll vote one of Hika/tiper/Kayne if it goes like this.bmin11 wrote:
-To all who wants a policy lynch on Backfire or want him to suicide
Have you guys ever considered replacing him? As Lincolm said, this is a huge waste of a lynch/voting power. I could only take this as a scapegoat attempt + free kill attempt. I need an explanation for this (Hika, Sakura, and fartownik).
-FoS on Kayne
Kayne becauseThough, it seems like he is more interested in defending himself, rather then extracting any info from his pressuring.I agree that his motivation was rather weak. I think the pressuring part was made up to defend himself harder. However, he really could have just wiped it off as a simple RV (that's what the majority though t anyway). Maybe this is a nervous reaction from being voted on
Ugh 11 hours, I doubt I'll be awake by that time.
Vote: tiper
It's the strongest lead I've got right now.
Vote: tiper
It's the strongest lead I've got right now.
Wrong, but close, I said that i will choose to not think he's outing his partner and rather framing DD, but that i will not dismiss the possibility entirely.Lincolm wrote:
Rantai wrote:
I like Sakura's and Irreversible's exchange here. Look at possibility that tiper maybe just scumslipped, maybe tiper in same faction with Dake (Irreversible), or not (Sakura). I like both choice. But personally, it is just WIFOM created by scum, if he is scum.
^ screwed quote tags, the quote is supposed to be all Lincolm
OMG SAKURA I KNEW IT :c
By the way, with all these PR's, it is highly likely that a mafia faction has a roleblocker.
unvote, doubleunvote
vote: Konei, doublevote: Konei
unvote, doubleunvote
vote: Konei, doublevote: Konei
That scumslip by tiper was waaaay too good to be real, so keeping vote on Konei for now.
Indeed, I think he was discovered and wanted to put attention on me, which is useless
But why Konei Kanye? It's true he's made fluffy posts, but I want to know if you have another reason to suddenly double vote him.
But why Konei Kanye? It's true he's made fluffy posts, but I want to know if you have another reason to suddenly double vote him.
Kanye West wrote:
That scumslip by tiper was waaaay too good to be real, so keeping vote on Konei for now.
Agreed but also you realize that alignment is random. Backfire has thesame chance to be mafia
I knew it dake.
Kanye, could you explain your vote on me a bit more? xD
It seems to as if you were random spawning to throw votes or something.
It seems to as if you were random spawning to throw votes or something.
Tell us the reasons why you did that, please.Kanye West wrote:
By the way, with all these PR's, it is highly likely that a mafia faction has a roleblocker.
unvote, doubleunvote
vote: Konei, doublevote: Konei
it's for the sake of game balance
it would make zero sense for the two mafia factions to have no means of mitigation of PR, otherwise they would just get crushed instantly by the abundant town PRs.
which is why I think that there are 1-2 scum out of Konei, RB, and Irreversible.
Konei is the safest lynch out of those three for today.
it would make zero sense for the two mafia factions to have no means of mitigation of PR, otherwise they would just get crushed instantly by the abundant town PRs.
which is why I think that there are 1-2 scum out of Konei, RB, and Irreversible.
Konei is the safest lynch out of those three for today.
Well, atleast that made Konei to post all out of a sudden lol
What are your thoughts, Konei? Anyone who you want to lynch?
What are your thoughts, Konei? Anyone who you want to lynch?
I don't wanna say anything about your silly 'conclusions'. You're inactive as f-. This is just annoying.
And before you say anything: Yes, this is agressive.
If you have some real reasons, let us know them, like this it is just silly.
And before you say anything: Yes, this is agressive.
If you have some real reasons, let us know them, like this it is just silly.
^ this post was written for Kayne.
I don't think so since no one has a chance knowing who mafia is (no investigative role)
@Kayne: Not many people have voted yet, i wanna wait for a current Modvote, but the ones who are actually actively playing this game didn't give a vote yet, so your vote is just random, i just realized again. Do you have anything to hide?
@Konei: What do you think about Sakura and DakeDekaane? And do you think it is weird that Lincolm analyzes everything that much?
@Konei: What do you think about Sakura and DakeDekaane? And do you think it is weird that Lincolm analyzes everything that much?