Hi. I have a problem i can't pass taiko maps after 6 star. Why? I can't follow patterns. I play Taiko since 2015 year. Others can get #100 rank as worldwide. I am still #4000 in world... Why? I just reached my limit? I have ADHD and Anxiety. These things can limit my taiko performance? I wanna be same as Japan players. Can i be #1 in world?

Note: I passed 5.8 Star map but with C rank and it's pretty bad in my opinion. What do you think? Here is my replay file: https://we.tl/t-HESmIKYeoB

I passed this 5,89 Star map with B rank: https://we.tl/t-3TfUo3ep6W

Please share your opinions. I am a noob player? Also can i get Japan players opinions too?

Well, I don't know if this helps, but let me share some info about myself: I have almost double of your playtime and I never passed any +6* i'm working on my consistency rather than going fast, even if sometimes I just want to try passing really difficult maps. if you want to see my taiko history, you can go to my site and see my taiko posts in the "other stuff" area. There you'll see a lot of stuff about how I felt during this last 10 months of daily taiko gameplay.

About your improvement on the game, I think it is just the "play the game" thing, but let's get deeper into it.

First of all, let's just be sure that you understand this like me: playing for 5 years is different from having a playtime of 200 hours, it is really important to understand this, because in the first case, you can have someone like me, that plays mania for longer than taiko but is clearly better at taiko than mania.
Second, I think ADHD and Anxiety can influence your gameplay, but your potential to get THAT play isn't affected. In other words, you can sometimes get your head lost in the middle of the map, or be nervous to get a really amazing score, but at the end, it is something that is exercisable for sure.

Directly answering your questions: You'll be the #1 in the world just if you play the game trying to improve and if you be confident about your skills. Don't compare yourself to others about PP, ranks and other stuff. Compare to understand (logically) what you should get better at: do you need to get better accuracy (lower unstable rate)? do you need to get better at maps with more difficult patterns? do you need to become more consistent?

Those questions are hard to understand and be 100% sure that you are in the right path. BUT, don't forget that every time you miss something, and you are willing to get better or learn from it, you will notice that and by noticing you need to think on how will you get better or hit those notes in the right way.

The last thing that may have crossed your mind when you say "I wanna be same as Japan players". They are REALLY good, yeah they are. BUT there are a lot of people that came from other taiko games, that's why they don't have much playtime. And there is this thing that taiko is really popular in Japan when compared to Brazil, for example, so people learn really early about how to play taiko, in the first place.

Last but not least, by watching your replay, I feel like you could try learning how to alt. I have a friend that plays 5.2* maps with DT (getting 99% accuracy) and singletaps everything! Taiko is a gamemode that has a lot of crazy people for sure! And, no, you're not a "noob" player. I'm jealous about you being able to play that density and get that 5,89* pass!

This is a long read, I know, but sometimes I feel this just like you and tons of other people, because everything here is normal, everyone has their path. And explaining this to you actually helps me!

Thanks for your attention and keep it up!!

first of all.. u are not the only one at #4.000ish
current #100 and above have 9.500pp+ and mostly able to FC *7 maps with HD+DT mods
I'm at #4.000 and can't imgaine myself playing *7 with HD+DT, but just like me 3 years ago who imagine that I might not be able to do "long" streams at all but now I'm able to
I think I improved by playing at my own pace, instead of thinking of others progress and comparing it to me

flr wrote:

Well, I don't know if this helps, but let me share some info about myself: I have almost double of your playtime and I never passed any +6* i'm working on my consistency rather than going fast, even if sometimes I just want to try passing really difficult maps. if you want to see my taiko history, you can go to my site and see my taiko posts in the "other stuff" area. There you'll see a lot of stuff about how I felt during this last 10 months of daily taiko gameplay.

About your improvement on the game, I think it is just the "play the game" thing, but let's get deeper into it.

First of all, let's just be sure that you understand this like me: playing for 5 years is different from having a playtime of 200 hours, it is really important to understand this, because in the first case, you can have someone like me, that plays mania for longer than taiko but is clearly better at taiko than mania.
Second, I think ADHD and Anxiety can influence your gameplay, but your potential to get THAT play isn't affected. In other words, you can sometimes get your head lost in the middle of the map, or be nervous to get a really amazing score, but at the end, it is something that is exercisable for sure.

Directly answering your questions: You'll be the #1 in the world just if you play the game trying to improve and if you be confident about your skills. Don't compare yourself to others about PP, ranks and other stuff. Compare to understand (logically) what you should get better at: do you need to get better accuracy (lower unstable rate)? do you need to get better at maps with more difficult patterns? do you need to become more consistent?

Those questions are hard to understand and be 100% sure that you are in the right path. BUT, don't forget that every time you miss something, and you are willing to get better or learn from it, you will notice that and by noticing you need to think on how will you get better or hit those notes in the right way.

The last thing that may have crossed your mind when you say "I wanna be same as Japan players". They are REALLY good, yeah they are. BUT there are a lot of people that came from other taiko games, that's why they don't have much playtime. And there is this thing that taiko is really popular in Japan when compared to Brazil, for example, so people learn really early about how to play taiko, in the first place.

Last but not least, by watching your replay, I feel like you could try learning how to alt. I have a friend that plays 5.2* maps with DT (getting 99% accuracy) and singletaps everything! Taiko is a gamemode that has a lot of crazy people for sure! And, no, you're not a "noob" player. I'm jealous about you being able to play that density and get that 5,89* pass!

This is a long read, I know, but sometimes I feel this just like you and tons of other people, because everything here is normal, everyone has their path. And explaining this to you actually helps me!

Thanks for your attention and keep it up!!

That was really self explanatory. I guess I was a little impatient about being the best player. Sorry. But are you really jealous of me?

Kyunshi wrote:

first of all.. u are not the only one at #4.000ish
current #100 and above have 9.500pp+ and mostly able to FC *7 maps with HD+DT mods
I'm at #4.000 and can't imgaine myself playing *7 with HD+DT, but just like me 3 years ago who imagine that I might not be able to do "long" streams at all but now I'm able to
I think I improved by playing at my own pace, instead of thinking of others progress and comparing it to me

I was #3500 years ago but now i'm around #4000...

Kyunshi wrote:

first of all.. u are not the only one at #4.000ish
current #100 and above have 9.500pp+ and mostly able to FC *7 maps with HD+DT mods
I'm at #4.000 and can't imgaine myself playing *7 with HD+DT, but just like me 3 years ago who imagine that I might not be able to do "long" streams at all but now I'm able to
I think I improved by playing at my own pace, instead of thinking of others progress and comparing it to me

I agree. We are trying at our paces, "we're all in the same boat". Someday I want so bad to be playing 5.5* and getting some nice 99%s. That's actually my objective in taiko.

FluFoxy wrote:

That was really self explanatory. I guess I was a little impatient about being the best player. Sorry. But are you really jealous of me?

Yeah, I am a bit jealous of you, obviously you're not doing perfect scores, but for example you have a really solid play on Houkago Stride that I just can't hold the combo or the accuracy on. I think you should see a bit about what you've accomplished until now and see if you can get better at 5* maps. I mean, getting more accuracy on maps with hard patterns and then go for 6* passes. Sometimes, it isn't possible to build a structure with an irregular/not solid blocks: you could try focusing on a more consistent playstyle. I don't know much about your plays, but I saw that you have some convert plays on your top plays. Convert is something that I don't have much experience with, I just know that it is different from the standard taiko. Maybe you could just focus on non-convert maps from now on? or just convert maps? (I recommend to stop playing converts at all, but you know there are songs that we like and there is no problem having fun with the game)

Ah, and there is a thing, bad accuracy and misses end up removing a lot of PP from plays. An 83% 100x misses play on a 7* map probably isn't going to give any PP. But an FC with 99% on a 4.6* map will probably give you some. And then there are OD and number of circles on the map that give a lot more PP, depending on the map, even if the map has the same star rating. Just take those 2 United maps for example on how much PP they give.

I repeat, you are not bad. You are just probably having a "hard time" because you are seeing you dropping the rankings. Just remember that focusing on that isn't good. The focus should be on training to improve, and then, by consequence of getting better, the rank comes.

Thanks for the attention again. I don't know exactly what happened today, but I'm writting a lot.

Kyunshi wrote:

first of all.. u are not the only one at #4.000ish
current #100 and above have 9.500pp+ and mostly able to FC *7 maps with HD+DT mods
I'm at #4.000 and can't imgaine myself playing *7 with HD+DT, but just like me 3 years ago who imagine that I might not be able to do "long" streams at all but now I'm able to
I think I improved by playing at my own pace, instead of thinking of others progress and comparing it to me

I was #3500 years ago but now i'm around #4000...

flr wrote:

Kyunshi wrote:

first of all.. u are not the only one at #4.000ish
current #100 and above have 9.500pp+ and mostly able to FC *7 maps with HD+DT mods
I'm at #4.000 and can't imgaine myself playing *7 with HD+DT, but just like me 3 years ago who imagine that I might not be able to do "long" streams at all but now I'm able to
I think I improved by playing at my own pace, instead of thinking of others progress and comparing it to me

I agree. We are trying at our paces, "we're all in the same boat". Someday I want so bad to be playing 5.5* and getting some nice 99%s. That's actually my objective in taiko.

FluFoxy wrote:

That was really self explanatory. I guess I was a little impatient about being the best player. Sorry. But are you really jealous of me?

Yeah, I am a bit jealous of you, obviously you're not doing perfect scores, but for example you have a really solid play on Houkago Stride that I just can't hold the combo or the accuracy on. I think you should see a bit about what you've accomplished until now and see if you can get better at 5* maps. I mean, getting more accuracy on maps with hard patterns and then go for 6* passes. Sometimes, it isn't possible to build a structure with an irregular/not solid blocks: you could try focusing on a more consistent playstyle. I don't know much about your plays, but I saw that you have some convert plays on your top plays. Convert is something that I don't have much experience with, I just know that it is different from the standard taiko. Maybe you could just focus on non-convert maps from now on? or just convert maps? (I recommend to stop playing converts at all, but you know there are songs that we like and there is no problem having fun with the game)

Ah, and there is a thing, bad accuracy and misses end up removing a lot of PP from plays. An 83% 100x misses play on a 7* map probably isn't going to give any PP. But an FC with 99% on a 4.6* map will probably give you some. And then there are OD and number of circles on the map that give a lot more PP, depending on the map, even if the map has the same star rating. Just take those 2 United maps for example on how much PP they give.

I repeat, you are not bad. You are just probably having a "hard time" because you are seeing you dropping the rankings. Just remember that focusing on that isn't good. The focus should be on training to improve, and then, by consequence of getting better, the rank comes.

Thanks for the attention again. I don't know exactly what happened today, but I'm writting a lot.

Thanks for your response. It's okay, I'm a person who writes a lot.

flr wrote:

Kyunshi wrote:

first of all.. u are not the only one at #4.000ish
current #100 and above have 9.500pp+ and mostly able to FC *7 maps with HD+DT mods
I'm at #4.000 and can't imgaine myself playing *7 with HD+DT, but just like me 3 years ago who imagine that I might not be able to do "long" streams at all but now I'm able to
I think I improved by playing at my own pace, instead of thinking of others progress and comparing it to me

I agree. We are trying at our paces, "we're all in the same boat". Someday I want so bad to be playing 5.5* and getting some nice 99%s. That's actually my objective in taiko.

FluFoxy wrote:

That was really self explanatory. I guess I was a little impatient about being the best player. Sorry. But are you really jealous of me?

Yeah, I am a bit jealous of you, obviously you're not doing perfect scores, but for example you have a really solid play on Houkago Stride that I just can't hold the combo or the accuracy on. I think you should see a bit about what you've accomplished until now and see if you can get better at 5* maps. I mean, getting more accuracy on maps with hard patterns and then go for 6* passes. Sometimes, it isn't possible to build a structure with an irregular/not solid blocks: you could try focusing on a more consistent playstyle. I don't know much about your plays, but I saw that you have some convert plays on your top plays. Convert is something that I don't have much experience with, I just know that it is different from the standard taiko. Maybe you could just focus on non-convert maps from now on? or just convert maps? (I recommend to stop playing converts at all, but you know there are songs that we like and there is no problem having fun with the game)

Ah, and there is a thing, bad accuracy and misses end up removing a lot of PP from plays. An 83% 100x misses play on a 7* map probably isn't going to give any PP. But an FC with 99% on a 4.6* map will probably give you some. And then there are OD and number of circles on the map that give a lot more PP, depending on the map, even if the map has the same star rating. Just take those 2 United maps for example on how much PP they give.

I repeat, you are not bad. You are just probably having a "hard time" because you are seeing you dropping the rankings. Just remember that focusing on that isn't good. The focus should be on training to improve, and then, by consequence of getting better, the rank comes.

Thanks for the attention again. I don't know exactly what happened today, but I'm writting a lot.

By the way i tried this map but i failed... What do you think about my this playing? https://we.tl/t-7DMPQ2wALH

FluFoxy wrote:

By the way i tried this map but i failed... What do you think about my this playing? https://we.tl/t-7DMPQ2wALH

I think you should ask yourself if you are having fun doing this stuff, because you're trying something really difficult and I can see that you don't have the skill to play/pass/get a nice accuracy on this type of map yet (neither I, I just can't read this fast scroll velocity, and this map is still a lot dense to me).

I can see that you are not confortable playing this. Maybe you could try high 4* or low 5* maps?

If you are having fun playing this stuff, there is no problem, because by having fun and having the will to get better, your brain will just do what it needs to become better.

Like my old days when I played standard. I played focused on passing hard maps, and that's not a skillset that gives you pp, so at the end of the day my rank just was stable at 50k, if I remember it right.

And there is another thing that is playing for accuracy is probably the key to improve FAST at any rhythm game, in my opinion, so I would recommend you to play at a level that you can get 98-99% accuracy and raise the level when you feel you got all the patterns right.

Accuracy is a good index to show how much you understood of the map. So if you understand 80% there is a lot (20%) of things that you need to improve, so you actually don't know where ou should focus to improve. But by scoring 99% accuracy there is just a few (1%) things that you need to improve, so you can understand that better.

Another big text... Well, thanks another time for the attention.

My best suggestion would be to play maps until you are able to play 220 bpm single tappable high speed maps with lots of patterns thrown in. This is something I did to increase my speed as much as possible because once you have speed all thats left is to be able to play in rhythm. Of course when trying to do speed focus on also being accurate and learning the pattern being played. Its also nice to pull back and play easier maps and focus more on the rhythm and playing by ear instead of focusing on the left side of the screen.

Once you have enough practice, 6 stars should be in your seeable future although it might be 6.0-6.2 stars at first. Once you get to that range, or as you may have noticed, some maps might be 5.5 stars but are so fast and technical that you aren't able to play it. This is the part where you have to learn to alternate on every note in order to better play, keep rhythm, and play quicker. You can see them doing it in many videos here https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAmuSHJyohOwXNMemCJnU8w

Of course you don't have to alternate on every single note, but doing so helped me get used to it faster. It also helps your non dominant hand get more practice in since you will be using it a lot more often. Can't stress enough though to stay on rhythm as much as possible. It can be hard to find at times when the map moves so fast, but once you find it you will better be able to keep up with the map just by knowing its rhythm. It also helps with alternating sometimes because if you know the rhythm your fingers may sometimes play by themselves.

Good news guys. Now i can pass some 6 and 6.32 - 6.36 star maps with B or C rank.

Hi, I'm currently (2021/07/21) #566 and I can offer some tips, hopefully these tips can help you a little bit.
After looking at your top100 plays, I notice a problem.
You like to play maps that are above your skill level. As a result, you get low accuracy and miss a lot, therefore losing a lot of PP.
In taiko, high accuracy and consistency is important if you want to improve and get more PP. For example, look at your own top3 play(Fake.Fake.Fake, Xavy's Light Oni) and top4 play(Fake.Fake.Fake, Heaxys' Oni). They're both the same song, and the latter is harder, but you get more PP from the easier map, because you miss less and have higher accuracy.
Instead of trying to pass harder maps, if you want to get more PP or just simply improve your skill in general, you should try to get S rank (aka Full Combo), and be as accurate as possible (99% is typically what you should be going for if you're not playing DT, but it depends).

Also, there are different types of taiko skills: (these are not official or anything, don't judge too much)
1. Stamina(aka the ability to play longer maps, maps with more notes/min, and maps with long streams)
2. Technique(aka the ability to handle different combinations of beats, such as 1/3, 1/6, 1/4 and 1/8, and the ability to read and play complex maps)
3. Speed(aka the ability to play maps with higher BPM/scroll speed. The speed of your eyes and hands)
It's important to find out what you're good at and choose your maps accordingly to get PP. For example, I have high stamina and low technique, so I typically play maps with 1/4 streams instead of torturing myself with 1/3 and 1/6.

Hope this helps. And sorry if my English is bad.

Polemo03 wrote:

Hi, I'm currently (2021/07/21) #566 and I can offer some tips, hopefully these tips can help you a little bit.
After looking at your top100 plays, I notice a problem.
You like to play maps that are above your skill level. As a result, you get low accuracy and miss a lot, therefore losing a lot of PP.
In taiko, high accuracy and consistency is important if you want to improve and get more PP. For example, look at your own top3 play(Fake.Fake.Fake, Xavy's Light Oni) and top4 play(Fake.Fake.Fake, Heaxys' Oni). They're both the same song, and the latter is harder, but you get more PP from the easier map, because you miss less and have higher accuracy.
Instead of trying to pass harder maps, if you want to get more PP or just simply improve your skill in general, you should try to get S rank (aka Full Combo), and be as accurate as possible (99% is typically what you should be going for if you're not playing DT, but it depends).

Also, there are different types of taiko skills: (these are not official or anything, don't judge too much)
1. Stamina(aka the ability to play longer maps, maps with more notes/min, and maps with long streams)
2. Technique(aka the ability to handle different combinations of beats, such as 1/3, 1/6, 1/4 and 1/8, and the ability to read and play complex maps)
3. Speed(aka the ability to play maps with higher BPM/scroll speed. The speed of your eyes and hands)
It's important to find out what you're good at and choose your maps accordingly to get PP. For example, I have high stamina and low technique, so I typically play maps with 1/4 streams instead of torturing myself with 1/3 and 1/6.

Hope this helps. And sorry if my English is bad.

Thanks. Yes it might be help for me. ^^