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Diasios

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Diasios 2013-06-16T12:48:07+00:00

Updated!

cRyo[iceeicee] wrote:
---->xxheroxx
Tell me what you want me to change, and i will try to change it (oT-T)尸

xxheroxx wrote:
I like how the collab turned out, I'm just a bit worried about alacat and cRyo's parts, you guys made a lot of jumps and your parts are harder than ours, it would be better to keep the same level of difficulty.

Just watch CXu and Dake's parts, removing some big jumps would be enough, if you don't know which one let me know and I'll help you.

alacat

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alacat 2013-06-16T16:42:35+00:00

rezoons

rezoons wrote:
[Hard]
02:09:321 (1,2,3,4) - 3 are in one direction and 1 in the opposite. Maybe make 2-2 it would be better imo. no change.
05:15:536 (5) - I think you need a 1/4-beat-long slider here too. fix :3
06:06:321 (2) - Move it to x=348 y=72 for a better blanket. ^

RikiH_

RikiH_ wrote:
Hard
02:09:750 (2,3,4) - (nazi) Ctrl+g on all these sliders emm... no change.

ThoomyyxD

ThoomyyxD wrote:
[Hard]

06:03:750 Delete new combo why ? D:

Satellite

Satellite wrote:
[Hard]
alacat part
00:41:892 (1,2) - More better rhythm,follow with lyrics,like this. not fit for me.

00:42:535 (3) - 00:42:964 - add whistle? I feel that these consecutive a whistle does not match.
00:45:321 (1) - nazi 4 th grid point 1grid left better. ... ?
00:46:821 (4) - Move x404 y248. no change.
02:11:892 (4,5,6) - More better rhythm,follow with lyrics,like this. put another pattern here. 02:11:035 (1,2,3) -

and my idea
SPOILER
328,120,131035,6,0,P|368:124|408:116,1,80,10|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
484,60,131464,1,8,0:0:0:0:
396,24,131678,1,0,0:0:0:0:
328,120,131892,2,0,P|320:160|316:200,1,80,0|10,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
396,256,132321,1,8,0:0:0:0:
412,160,132535,1,0,0:0:0:0:
06:12:750 (1) - keep? it is hero's part .
SPOILER

Konei

Konei wrote:
[Hard]

02:10:607 (4) - Spacing is much too huge, so that it comes unexpected, please reduce the jump a bit. hmm... no problem imo.

Thank you for modding

http://puu.sh/3h5BK.osu

Diasios

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Diasios 2013-06-16T17:46:46+00:00

Updated!

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2013-06-17T22:51:59+00:00

#UnhelpfulModTime

Doing the whole format thing because you asked me to

General[/size]
Idunno, I'm feeling that the claps you use should be actual bass drum beats rather than hitnormals. I tried using drumfinish and it was ok but it wasn't the best, and you'd have to lower the volume manually so it wasn't overbearing. But a bass drum would be cool.

Normal

General:
Starting from 03:24:750 to 05:19:607 a lot of this is copypaste so apply mods from the corresponding parts. Like there's some moved notes around but for the most part it's like almost the exact same thing flipped horizontally and vertically. Which for normal players, isn't very fun. I personally like to copy-paste choruses once, but entire almost 2 minute segments of a song? nope.avi.

Andrea
00:55:178 (4) - Add finish on end of slider
01:36:750 (1) - It's an ok slider but I feel you can make something much more interesting than a curve. Especially one that just kind of leads to space and just dies off.
01:53:892 (1) - ^
02:33:321 (3) - ^
02:50:892 (2,3) - Perfect time for drumwhistles
02:59:035 (2) - Why the random straight slider, when there's no musical cue for it?

xxheroxx
00:39:321 (2) - Maybe make this straight to match (3) and (4)?
01:39:321 (3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,5,6,1,2,3,4) - Why is there so much focus on red ticks? For the easiest difficulty, they're really hard to follow. I understand some lyrics land on them, but for a lot of them, there's no lyrics.
02:36:750 (1,2) - Perfect time for drumwhistles
02:43:178 (6) - Could you prettypattern this with (3,4,5)? Right now it really looks like it wants to. Having it where it is now just makes it look wrong, even if it is correctly spaced.

Hard

alacat
00:55:607 (2) - Add finish here
02:23:892 (8) - Idunno it'd be cool to add a curved slider here rather than a straight slider, making it more coherent with the beginning of (7)
05:06:321 (3,4) - There's like literally pefect timing to use drumwhistles
05:15:321 (4) - A triangle with (3) and (5) would be cool
05:59:464 (3,4,5) - Same as 5:06

cRyo[iceeicee]
General suggestion: The entire map is following a not really jumpy style. Your parts seems to be the biggest culprit of breaking this.
01:54:964 (2,3,4,5) - This would be MUCH better as a regular diamond pattern. Especially since there's no real reason to increase spacing here anyway.
02:05:035 (2,3) - To follow the melody more, use this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/818729
02:08:464 (5) - This jump why
02:11:678 (3) - Even the spacing between (2) and (4)
04:09:321 (2,1,2,3,4) - I'd suggest mapping the cool bass part that comes out of here rather than random off-beats
04:16:178 (5) - This would look much nicer in a traingle with (3) and (4)
05:45:321 (1,2,3) - Perfect time to use drumwhistles
05:51:321 (5) - This doesn't feel natural at all. For a map like this, where most of it has been feeling calming and natural, this is no good. My hand wants something like the slider being CTRL + Gd or something.
05:52:178 (2) - This would look better symmetrical, since you're not really blanketing anything, only avoiding the HP bar.

CXu
03:05:892 (1,2,1,2,3) - To ensure that people hit this properly, make it slider-circle-slider-circle rather than circle-slider-circle-slider. This is because players, unless they're 100% familiar with the song, won't realize the change from straight quarters, to quarter note triplets. Alternatively, you can have repeat slider - circle-cirlce-circle, and that might actually be easier.
05:43:607 (1,2) - Right now (1) and (2) don't seem to be working together. Maybe reformat it something like this? (Or make it look better, I'm awful at sliders, lol: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/818738

DakeDekaane
01:09:321 (1) - Add finish on beginning of slider
01:19:607 (1) - I guess it's ok since it's like making blankets but when this first appears, it looks like a hunchbacked slider. Maybe something like this would be better: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/818724
04:36:750 - Add claps on the white ticks here since the bass drum that the claps are following hasn't changed.

xxheroxx
01:28:821 (2) - Add clap on end of slider
01:39:321 (3,4) - For the beginning of these two sliders, use drumwhistles to match the high hat?
04:03:107 (4) - To follow the lyrics better, since you've been really on that the entire song, remove (5), move this slider down 1/2, and add a note where this began.
04:52:607 (2,3) - Pefect time to use drumwhistles
05:02:035 (3,4,5,6) - This curve is really thin. Think about starting (3) a bit higher so you're not reaching to hit (1), and can curve the stream more.
06:13:178 (2,3,4) - Same as 4:52

It's a cool map but I'm still bothered that literally 2 minutes are mostly copy-paste in the normal diff.

Niko-nyan

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Niko-nyan 2013-06-17T23:14:10+00:00

looks good for me catch my moe star plz

Flower

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Flower 2013-06-17T23:23:21+00:00

General

The hitsounds in this map are a bit too weak imo. I suggest increase all sample volume by 1 dB with audio editing tools.
reduce Hard's OD to 6? since it's Hard diff

Normal

Andrea

01:36:750 (1) - the shape is weird. why not try something cool?
not best one, but something a bit cooler
02:22:178 (3) - make more symmetrical
SPOILER
```
348,72,142178,2,8,P|268:99|179:70,2,180
```

02:59:035 (2) - Try this:

SPOILER

184,160,179035,2,8,B|256:192|328:160|328:160|456:260,1,300,10|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

03:52:178 (1) - same as above. also, copy-pasting on this slider is lazy imo.
05:14:463 (2) - same as 02:59:035 (2) -
05:55:392 (2) - move upwards by 1 grid or two to make it look more dynamic

xxheroxx

02:41:892 (3) - not recommend hiding note under the slider end. slightly move away by a grid.
06:08:892 (7) - move to somewhere else? I don't like the stack here

Hard

alacat

00:44:035 (2,3,4) - move to x:128 y:264 to keep the flow
02:07:607 (1,2,3,4,5) - this jump breaks flow. try moving 02:08:249 (4) - to x:88,y:200 and 02:08:464 (5) - ctrl+G
02:17:892 (1) - I suggest shorten by 1/4 and add note at 02:18:750 - . if you think it overmapping then ignorethis.
05:11:464 (5,6) - make them parallel, like
SPOILER
05:59:035 (1) - jump smaller
06:03:750 (1,2,3) - Don't think the jump is necessary here. Also, I think the NC here is messy.
06:03:535 (5,8,9) - move to x:252 y:188, as blanket better and better spacing (and stacked with 06:03:535 (5) - , though not noticeable)

cRyo[iceeicee]

01:53:892 (1) - reversing arrow overlapped
02:04:178 (1) - too far jump as Hard imo. rotate by 25 degree clock wise, the tail as the center.
04:18:535 (1,2,3) - slightly reduce spacing
04:22:392 (1,2,3,4) - breaking flow imo. also, switch NC of 04:23:035 (4,1) - , then adjust again.
05:51:321 (5) - Ctrl+G
05:57:107 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - reduce spacing? not a pattern that should be in Hard

CXu

01:45:535 (2,3,1) - use same spacing?
02:58:821 (5,6,1) - slightly move downwards, because auto-stack makes 5 appear higher than in editor
03:03:321 (2) - suggest slowdown starting at this slider
04:26:892 (2) - not recommended hiding the note directly under the reverse arrow. manual stack.
04:29:892 (5,1) - switch NC
05:31:607 (1) - Move tail to x:344 y:168?
05:37:607 (1,2,3,4,5) - changing to 3 single notes plays better

DakeDekaane

01:14:464 (6) - reversing arrow overlapped
02:36:321 (1) - move to 02:36:214 - ? background music has sound here
04:39:535 (8) - reduce repeating by 2. making a 1 beat break is not a bad idea.
04:46:178 (6) - slightly move up. auto-stack on 04:46:821 (7) - spoils the spacing
04:51:000 (1,2,3) - messy as Hard diff, imo

xxheroxx

01:39:750 (4) - try this:
SPOILER
02:38:357 - add a note?
02:42:750 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - plays better if you change it to 4 single notes. overmapping imo.

Good luck~

Raose

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Raose 2013-06-18T00:43:17+00:00

General

such a sweet song

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Normal

Andrea

• 01:31:178 - add a note here maybe?
• 02:24:321 (1,2) - I think switching these 2 on timeline would match vocals better
06:23:035 (4) - think it'd be an epic end to add a finish to start, repeat, and end

xxheroxx

• 01:13:607 (2) - the end isn't perfectly stacked on top of 01:12:321 (5)
• 01:42:107 (3) - how about moving this to the next white tick so it fits vocals better?
• 01:47:035 (1,2,3,4) - how about this setup? to me, the objects on the red ticks dont' sound so good
SPOILER
• 02:41:892 (3) - not perfectly stacked on top of 2
• 04:25:178 (4) - ctrl+G for better flow?
05:39:107 (3) - the lyric doesn't start til 05:39:321, so I recommend moving the slider to there and end it where it originally ended, shortening the sldier by 1/2

Hard

alacat

• 00:41:892 (1,2,3) - I feel like switchign these objects around on timeline would match the beats (and the "oohhh") in the background better :O here's an example:
SPOILER
• 05:15:321 (4) - why such a big jump? ):

cRyo[iceeicee]

• 03:45:750 (2,3,4) - make a triangle out of these?
• 05:51:321 (5) - ctrl + G would improve the circular flow here imo

CXu

• 01:46:607 (2,3,4) - make the spacing equal here?

DakeDekaane

• 02:23:892 (8) - just an idea, maybe you can curve the slider so that it blankets 7?
• 02:29:464 (4) - not perfectly stacked on the tail of 1 D:
• 03:33:321 (1,2,3,4) - imo, ctrl+G all of these will have a smoother flow, like this: (AR lowered)
SPOILER

xxheroxx

• 01:28:821 (2) - not perfectly stacked on 4
• 03:59:678 (4) - I think it'd fit vocals better if you replaced this slider with a circle and 1/2 repeating slider

goodluckkkkk

Loooctav

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Loooctav 2013-06-18T00:46:29+00:00

Hi again (Need your mod xxheroxx)

Normal

Andrea
01:31:178 add note o3o
01:33:750 ^
02:01:607 (3) Ugly >.<.. Don't use red points <3
02:06:964 (3,4) use slider. imo

02:25:607 (3,4,1) moar moe

Screamshot in the face

05:45:750 (2,3,4) Use slider pls

xxheroxx
01:12:321 (5) x:280 y:195 Better~
01:46:392 (6,1) Ugly Overlap >.<
03:27:750 (5) x:232 y:188 Better~
04:23:892 (3) It's more moe <3

Screamshot <3

04:30:750 (3) moar moe

Screamshot <3

04:53:464 (2) moar moe

Screamshot<3

06:08:035 (5,7) Hard overlap :3

Hard

alacat
02:14:035 (2,3,4,5,6) use slider, it's more moe
05:11:035 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) WTF!? This does not make much sense
06:03:750 (1) Delete New Combo
06:12:107 (1,2,3,4,5,6) Use slider, moar moe

cRyo[iceeicee]
Nothing~

CXu
04:25:607 (3) this is better

DakeDekeJakeFakeMakemnfiasndgidbsagldf
02:28:178 (1) Ugly slider >.<

xxheroxx
00:31:178 (4,1,2,3) don't have much sense, change this pls
02:50:357 Add note eweeee
04:56:464 (3) The tip of the slider at the tip end of this 04:55:607 (1)
05:05:357 (3) This is wrong located, does not look good

My mod complete, Sorry for before, i hope what this mod it's good

Zero__wind

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Zero__wind 2013-06-18T00:49:00+00:00

Hi :3 m4m4 here

sorry to spam with claps but I think you should keep consistency

Hard

try to use "collab" or a custom diff name would be better, for with many streams and especially the 1/4 sliders, the diff is much harder than a Hard

alacat
00:51:964 (4) - maybe also add whistle to this
02:20:892 (1) - the NC seems not neccessary, even this one 02:19:607 (1) -
05:11:785 (6) - clap at end

cRyo[iceeicee]
01:53:892 (1) - the reverse arrow was overlapped by 01:53:250 (2) - 's hitburst, and this seems to be unrankable ?
02:00:750 (4,1) - maybe exchange NC
02:05:035 (2,3) - the rhythm for this place is not really intuitive imo, for there's only one vocal sound and the players need to hit two cricles, naybe remove #3 and replace #2 with a 1/2 slider then rearrange their placing
04:09:107 (1,1) - remove both NC and NC on 04:09:321 (2) - ?
04:11:035 (4) - the rhythm for this place is not intuitive, readable though. Because refering to 04:10:178 - and 04:10:607 - , players would mostly think you are following the melody in the background instead of drum at this part, because you just simply left two drum beats blank. But, you suddenly switched back to a drum beat with 04:11:035 (4) - , which made the rhythm quite weird, put 04:11:035 (4) - at 04:11:250 - may make more sense

CXu
04:23:035 (4,1) - maybe just exchange NC, for downbeat, and for a new sentence started

DakeDekaane
01:09:321 (1) - clap at end ?
01:10:178 (2) - ^
01:11:892 (5) - ^
01:12:964 (2) - ^
01:13:607 (4) - ^
01:11:464 (4) - clap
01:14:464 (6) - clap at reverse point
01:15:750 (7) - clap
01:16:178 (1) - clap at end
01:17:035 (3) - ^
01:18:964 (4) - clap at reverse point
01:19:607 (1) - clap at end
01:20:464 (3) - ^
01:21:535 (1) - remove both the NC on it and on 01:22:607 (1) - , or only remove the NC on 01:22:607 (1) -
02:21:750 (3) - clap
02:23:035 (7) - clap at end
02:23:892 (8) - ^
02:26:464 (5) - ^
02:28:178 (1) - ^
02:30:750 (6) - ^
02:32:035 (2) - clap
03:24:750 (1) - also add clap at end
03:25:607 (3) - ^
03:27:321 (6) - ^
03:28:607 (2) - clap
03:29:035 (4) - clap both on head and tail
03:29:892 (6) - clap and reverse point
03:31:178 (7) - clap
03:31:607 (1) - clap both on head and tail
03:32:464 (3) - clap at end
03:36:964 (2) - clap both on head and tail
03:37:607 (3) - clap on tail ?
04:37:179 (3,5) - clap
04:38:464 (7) - add clap on head and reverse point
04:39:535 (8) - add clap on second reverse point (white tick)
04:41:464 (4) - clap on head
04:41:893 (5) - clap at end
04:43:607 (1) - ^
04:45:321 (5) - ^
04:46:178 (6) - ^
04:44:892 (4) - clap on head
04:47:464 (2) - clap
04:47:893 (4) - clap at end

xxheroxx
00:39:964 (3) - maybe use whistles instead of claps for this one because it's actually not following the drum (or add both)
01:25:178 (2) - also add whistle on it ?
01:28:821 (2) - clap at end instead of on head ?
04:00:535 (1) - remove clap on head ?
04:01:392 (3) - ^
04:02:249 (5) - remove clap ?
04:03:107 (4,1) - remove clap on head ?
05:01:392 (2) - replace the clap on head with a whistle instead and remove the clap on tail
add another spinner at end which start at 06:26:571 - and end at 06:28:607 - , also, for Normal

Normal

xxheroxx
01:46:392 (6,1) - the overlap don't look good, just make it like this ? http://puu.sh/3iafK.jpg
01:50:892 (2) - clap
02:09:750 (3,5) - maybe also clap to them and clap on its tail, refering to 02:11:035 (1) - . It's a matter of consistency
02:16:607 (4,6) - clap
02:41:464 (2) - too high, touched the HP bar, which don't look nice
03:26:893 (3,5) - clap
03:30:321 (3,5) - ^
03:32:893 (2) - ^
03:31:607 (1) - clap at reverse
03:36:964 (3) - also whistle at end
03:57:535 (4) - replace clap with whistle, as you're simply not following the drum at this part
04:04:392 (4) - ^
04:32:035 (4) - clap both on head and tail
06:07:178 (3,4,5,6,7) - those whistles really needed ? suggest to remove half

Andrea
06:21:321 (7,1) - ehchange NC ?

tat's all
good luck

Diasios

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Diasios 2013-06-18T07:46:43+00:00

Thanks, changed a few things.

Andrea

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Andrea 2013-06-18T07:55:36+00:00

http://puu.sh/3inA6

Here's my fixes :3

CXu

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CXu 2013-06-18T08:13:41+00:00

CDFA

CDFA wrote:
CXu
03:05:892 (1,2,1,2,3) - To ensure that people hit this properly, make it slider-circle-slider-circle rather than circle-slider-circle-slider. This is because players, unless they're 100% familiar with the song, won't realize the change from straight quarters, to quarter note triplets. Alternatively, you can have repeat slider - circle-cirlce-circle, and that might actually be easier. - Hmm, possibly. I'll see what more people think first
05:43:607 (1,2) - Right now (1) and (2) don't seem to be working together. Maybe reformat it something like this? (Or make it look better, I'm awful at sliders, lol: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/818738 - For me, the 3/4 makes it feel like a break in the lyrics, so I think that not "flowing" into the slider works better.

Flower

Flower wrote:
CXu
01:45:535 (2,3,1) - use same spacing? - Actually yeah, maybe that works better.
02:58:821 (5,6,1) - slightly move downwards, because auto-stack makes 5 appear higher than in editor - Mm, I think I got it better now.
03:03:321 (2) - suggest slowdown starting at this slider - This slider feels like a part of 03:00:750 (1,2), and the new part of the music starting at 03:04:178, so no changes.
04:26:892 (2) - not recommended hiding the note directly under the reverse arrow. manual stack. - This should work fine, approach circles exist for a reason
04:29:892 (5,1) - switch NC - It's to keep the same pattern as 04:23:035 (4,1) and 04:25:607 (3,1). I could probably change it if it's a very big deal but yeah.
05:31:607 (1) - Move tail to x:344 y:168? - Eh sure.
05:37:607 (1,2,3,4,5) - changing to 3 single notes plays better - Not sure what you mean, but follows the same thing as 05:37:607 (1,2,3,4,5), so should be fine.

Raose

Raose wrote:
CXu
• 01:46:607 (2,3,4) - make the spacing equal here? - This part was intentional, so no changes.

ThoomyyxD

ThoomyyxD wrote:
CXu
04:25:607 (3) this is better - You mean the blanket? well tbh, I doubt anyone would actually see that, but fixed nonetheless.

Zero__wind

Zero__wind wrote:
CXu
04:23:035 (4,1) - maybe just exchange NC, for downbeat, and for a new sentence started - Well, if cRyo's happy with that, then sure I guess?

aaaaaaa

Diasios

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Diasios 2013-06-18T08:22:27+00:00

Updated!

Konei

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Konei 2013-06-18T11:06:54+00:00

On Normal:

01:13:607 (2) - Is this end intended to be stacked with the previous 5? If yes, fix it.

Besides this, I think silencing Sliderslide and Slidertick at the same time is unrankable, am I right?

Just some things I missed u.u

Diasios

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Diasios 2013-06-18T11:32:40+00:00

Konei wrote:
On Normal:

01:13:607 (2) - Is this end intended to be stacked with the previous 5? If yes, fix it. While playing you don't notice it so it's not necessary, I don't want to break my spacing consistencies.

Besides this, I think silencing Sliderslide and Slidertick at the same time is unrankable, am I right? Uh... slidertick is not muted and you can hear it while playing.

Konei

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Konei 2013-06-18T11:37:22+00:00

In my opinion the Slidertick sound is way too quiet :<

Try setting Slidertick rate to 4 and make a giant Slider, you will barely hear anything.

Maybe it's just me tho.

Diasios

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Diasios 2013-06-18T11:48:56+00:00

Made on purpose, I don't really like how a slidertick with a higher volume sounds, I'll increase it a little if more people will complain about it.

Irreversible

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Irreversible 2013-06-18T18:04:40+00:00

Konei wrote:
On Normal:

01:13:607 (2) - Is this end intended to be stacked with the previous 5? If yes, fix it.

Besides this, I think silencing Sliderslide and Slidertick at the same time is unrankable, am I right?

Just some things I missed u.u

no kd for you.. xDDD

Konei

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Konei 2013-06-18T18:05:11+00:00

Irreversible wrote:
Konei wrote:
On Normal:

01:13:607 (2) - Is this end intended to be stacked with the previous 5? If yes, fix it.

Besides this, I think silencing Sliderslide and Slidertick at the same time is unrankable, am I right?

Just some things I missed u.u
no kd for you.. xDDD

LOL xD

not like I didnt already get one

DakeDekaane

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DakeDekaane 2013-06-18T19:12:54+00:00

;n;

CDFA

CDFA wrote:
#UnhelpfulModTime

DakeDekaane
01:09:321 (1) - Add finish on beginning of slider /*Ok.
01:19:607 (1) - I guess it's ok since it's like making blankets but when this first appears, it looks like a hunchbacked slider. Maybe something like this would be better: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/818724 /*Did something similar
04:36:750 - Add claps on the white ticks here since the bass drum that the claps are following hasn't changed. /*Ok

Flower

Flower wrote:
DakeDekaane
01:14:464 (6) - reversing arrow overlapped /*Fixed somehow following CDFA's suggestion.
02:36:321 (1) - move to 02:36:214 - ? background music has sound here /*There is, but I'm following the kicks? I don't know how it's called, but putting a note there doesn't fit too much imo.
04:39:535 (8) - reduce repeating by 2. making a 1 beat break is not a bad idea. /*Reduced the repeats, but added a circle in 04:39:964 - as it sounds empty imo
04:46:178 (6) - slightly move up. auto-stack on 04:46:821 (7) - spoils the spacing /*I think I get it, did something
04:51:000 (1,2,3) - messy as Hard diff, imo /*Did something similar to my previous part

Raose

Raose wrote:
DakeDekaane
• 02:23:892 (8) - just an idea, maybe you can curve the slider so that it blankets 7? /*Actually the overlap is intentional, otherwise I'd be abusing of blankets :p
• 02:29:464 (4) - not perfectly stacked on the tail of 1 D: /*Oh you~, well, I can't achieve a perfect blanket and stack that are almost unnoticeable but did something.
• 03:33:321 (1,2,3,4) - imo, ctrl+G all of these will have a smoother flow, like this: (AR lowered) /*Ok.
SPOILER

ThoomyyxD

ThoomyyxD wrote:
DakeDekeJakeFakeMakemnfiasndgidbsagldf
02:28:178 (1) Ugly slider >.< /*Why? It's symmetrically perfect.

@Zero__wind: I'm really afraid I missed all those claps, skimmed some and noticed they were on white ticks, with some exceptions though, but all should be its place now. Also that NC you pointed, thanks.

Thanks everyone.
All with my parts fixed: http://puu.sh/3iHFy.osu

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Diasios 2013-06-18T19:49:08+00:00

Updated!

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alacat 2013-06-21T06:44:22+00:00

CDFA

CDFA wrote:
alacat
00:55:607 (2) - Add finish here too loud imo.
02:23:892 (8) - Idunno it'd be cool to add a curved slider here rather than a straight slider, making it more coherent with the beginning of (7) it is DakeDekaane's part
05:06:321 (3,4) - There's like literally pefect timing to use drumwhistles not fit for me.
05:15:321 (4) - A triangle with (3) and (5) would be cool put a jump :3
05:59:464 (3,4,5) - Same as 5:06 same.

Flower

Flower wrote:
alacat
00:44:035 (2,3,4) - move to x:128 y:264 to keep the flow emm...no.
02:07:607 (1,2,3,4,5) - this jump breaks flow. try moving 02:08:249 (4) - to x:88,y:200 and 02:08:464 (5) - ctrl+G ok:3
02:17:892 (1) - I suggest shorten by 1/4 and add note at 02:18:750 - . if you think it overmapping then ignorethis. yea keep on now.
05:11:464 (5,6) - make them parallel, like no.
SPOILER
05:59:035 (1) - jump smaller ^
06:03:750 (1,2,3) - Don't think the jump is necessary here. Also, I think the NC here is messy. kk
06:03:535 (5,8,9) - move to x:252 y:188, as blanket better and better spacing (and stacked with 06:03:535 (5) - , though not noticeable) no.

Raose

Raose wrote:
alacat
• 00:41:892 (1,2,3) - I feel like switchign these objects around on timeline would match the beats (and the "oohhh") in the background better :O here's an example: no change.
SPOILER
• 05:15:321 (4) - why such a big jump? ): fix.

ThoomyyxD

ThoomyyxD wrote:
alacat
02:14:035 (2,3,4,5,6) use slider, it's more moe
05:11:035 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) WTF!? This does not make much sense
06:03:750 (1) Delete New Combo ok.
06:12:107 (1,2,3,4,5,6) Use slider, moar moe
I cant understand your mod 　What should I change?

Zero__wind

Zero__wind wrote:
alacat
00:51:964 (4) - maybe also add whistle to this no.
02:20:892 (1) - the NC seems not neccessary, even this one 02:19:607 (1) - ok!
05:11:785 (6) - clap at end ok~

Thank you for modding　

http://puu.sh/3kGnW

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Diasios 2013-06-21T07:23:38+00:00

Updated!

cRyo[iceeicee]

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cRyo[iceeicee] 2013-06-22T22:23:51+00:00

CDFA

CDFA wrote:
Hard
cRyo[iceeicee]
General suggestion: The entire map is following a not really jumpy style. Your parts seems to be the biggest culprit of breaking this. i think my parts easy enough ._.
01:54:964 (2,3,4,5) - This would be MUCH better as a regular diamond pattern. Especially since there's no real reason to increase spacing here anyway. increasing spacing fits
02:05:035 (2,3) - To follow the melody more, use this? http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/818729 they both follow
02:08:464 (5) - This jump why idk, but probably because its alacat's part x .x
02:11:678 (3) - Even the spacing between (2) and (4) i'm fine with this jump, since its alacat's part also x...x
04:09:321 (2,1,2,3,4) - I'd suggest mapping the cool bass part that comes out of here rather than random off-beats current one is more interesting for me
04:16:178 (5) - This would look much nicer in a traingle with (3) and (4) #5 should have jump
05:45:321 (1,2,3) - Perfect time to use drumwhistles dont hear drum w
05:51:321 (5) - This doesn't feel natural at all. For a map like this, where most of it has been feeling calming and natural, this is no good. My hand wants something like the slider being CTRL + Gd or something. ok
05:52:178 (2) - This would look better symmetrical, since you're not really blanketing anything, only avoiding the HP bar. changed little bit, but dont want symmetrical

Flower

Flower wrote:

[size=150]Hard

cRyo[iceeicee]
01:53:892 (1) - reversing arrow overlapped i have no idea why CXu decided to hide my reverce arrow (´Д｀)
02:04:178 (1) - too far jump as Hard imo. rotate by 25 degree clock wise, the tail as the center. did smth else
04:18:535 (1,2,3) - slightly reduce spacing ok
04:22:392 (1,2,3,4) - breaking flow imo. also, switch NC of 04:23:035 (4,1) - , then adjust again. NC clearly readable
05:51:321 (5) - Ctrl+G ok
05:57:107 (5,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1) - reduce spacing? not a pattern that should be in Hard ok

Raose

Raose wrote:
General

cRyo[iceeicee]
• 03:45:750 (2,3,4) - make a triangle out of these? i like current one >_<
• 05:51:321 (5) - ctrl + G would improve the circular flow here imo ok

Zero__wind

Zero__wind wrote:
cRyo[iceeicee]
01:53:892 (1) - the reverse arrow was overlapped by 01:53:250 (2) - 's hitburst, and this seems to be unrankable ? CXu CXu CXu o(-`д´- ｡)
02:00:750 (4,1) - maybe exchange NC no current one follow vocal/spacing o.o
02:05:035 (2,3) - the rhythm for this place is not really intuitive imo, for there's only one vocal sound and the players need to hit two cricles, naybe remove #3 and replace #2 with a 1/2 slider then rearrange their placing ok
04:09:107 (1,1) - remove both NC and NC on 04:09:321 (2) - ? first NC started with my part, second because rhytm change
04:11:035 (4) - the rhythm for this place is not intuitive, readable though. Because refering to 04:10:178 - and 04:10:607 - , players would mostly think you are following the melody in the background instead of drum at this part, because you just simply left two drum beats blank. But, you suddenly switched back to a drum beat with 04:11:035 (4) - , which made the rhythm quite weird, put 04:11:035 (4) - at 04:11:250 - may make more sense well i think its readable due to slow bpm/AR8, i know its ignoring beat etc, just wanted to bring some variety to white tick beat spam

Thx mod!
http://puu.sh/3lUXs.osu

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CXu 2013-06-22T23:15:35+00:00

Just to clarify, I'm pretty sure the ranking criteria is just for the default skin, and with the new overhauled default skin, hitbursts end up underneath new objects, and you can see the reverse arrow very clearly before you need to hit it:

SPOILER

I don't know if hiding hitbursts underneath new objects is new behviour over all skins though, and I need to go sleep soon, so I don't feel like checking it right now, lol.

Diasios

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Diasios 2013-06-23T07:26:54+00:00

Updated!

CXu:

SPOILER

As you can see the reverse arrow is hidden if you use a different skin so it's better if you avoid this.
Though I wonder how many people nowadays still use non-transparent hitbursts.

CXu

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CXu 2013-06-23T10:44:29+00:00

Problem with using custom skins to determine something is that some skins might have modifications that make certain patterns easier/harder/impossible to read. If the hitbursts are big, some sliders might look like circles because they're completely covered. My own skin has a white circle around the reverse arrow that's a bit bigger than the hitcircle, so I see reverses even if they're covered by a previous note or something. Which is probably why you usually go with the default skin when checking for rankability. We can't assume that players have invisible hitbursts, but we can't assume they have very big hitbursts either, so yeah.

Well anyhow, it doesn't make that much of a difference to me either way, so here we go:

202,177,112821,6,0,L|250:89,1,80,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
280,32,113250,1,2,0:0:0:0:

Diasios

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Diasios 2013-06-23T11:30:14+00:00

Alright, updated.

Natsu

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Natsu 2013-06-23T22:42:21+00:00

Hi from your Queue

General

Clean

Normal

Andrea

00:53:464 (1,2,3,4) - avoid the stacks can be confuse for newbies imo Iknow about new skin but anyways this is hard for newbies they click all fast orz
03:54:321 add somethink here gonna be really good for rhythm actually feel empty

xxheroxx

00:27:750 add somethink here for consistency with the other diff
01:12:321 (5) - try to stack this with 01:13:607 (2) - tail
01:46:392 (6,1) - try another placement actually look really confuse and overlaped imo
05:36:750 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - trhy to make some slider there actually really hard for a newbie

Hard

[*]HP + 1 actually 6 so low but maybe is just me

alacat

00:41:892 remove NC then add NC here 00:41:678 to be consistent with like xhero did on 00:27:750 (1,2,3) -
00:47:035 add a circle with clap here then start spinner on 00:47:142 gonna be better for hitsounds
00:54:964 whistle on the tail too for consistency with th music and with the one you add on the head
05:11:678 add a circle here feel weird when you play it

cRyo[iceeicee]

04:17:464 stack it under the tail of previous slider
05:52:821 (3,4,5) - keep the 0.50 distance here imo

CXu

01:46:607 (2,3,4) - why the distance is not the same? i preffer if you make a perfec triangle here
03:00:750 is better if you finish this on 03:01:178 Or if you add a beat 03:01:178 following vocals
03:01:392 ^
03:02:464 conver this one in a 1/2 slider following vocals? gonna fit better here imo
03:08:035 - 03:08:464 map this parts like you did on symilar place like 03:04:178 (1,2,3,4) -
03:08:035 ^

DakeDekaane

01:15:750 just saying the most of players dont like this circle hidden under sliders maybe you want to try another placement
02:22:392 (6,7,8) - this pattern gonna look alot better if you stack 7 head with 8 body imo
02:31:607 this gonna follow better vocals if you do a 1/2 slider in there imo
02:33:321 (1,2,3,4,1) - this patter look kinda random and bored to play imo why you dont try some start or triangle patterns on that part gonna be more fun
02:36:214 add somethink here since you map the before 1/4 and i dont understand why you ignore the last with some important beat there
03:30:964 you ignore this but you map the same sound on 03:31:392
04:50:250 add somethink here feel really empty when you play it
04:51:642 again you ignore the strong sound here better add somethink imo

xxheroxx

00:29:892 I think you should map this part maybe conver this 00:29:678 in 1/2 slider also if you map that part gonna be good for your clap patter imo
00:30:321 same here is weird how you ignore the vocal in here better map it gonna feel better for gameplay
01:31:178 ^
01:36:750 (1,2,3,4) - gonna be really fun If you add some 1/4 repeats slider or atleast 1/2 slider to fit the music better
04:08:785 (1,2) - why you ignore the 1/4 music in this art I think gonna be better if you map it
05:02:463 (1,2) - convert they 2 in a 1/2 slider since finish a stream with a slider fit better aso is better for gameplay imo
06:24:535 - 06:24:642 - 06:24:750 add circles there the start spinner on 06:24:857 gonna follow better the music

Well thats all I can suggest here also shooting a star i really like this song and map

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[ Zzz ] 2013-06-23T23:08:38+00:00

Normal

Andrea

03:03:321 (3) -

SPOILER

Prev0.98>1.00 Is better to change the good things

I think good! ↓

SPOILER

05:06:321 (2) - x310 y279

05:07:607 (4) - x433 y52

05:09:320 (6) - x434 y331

05:18:749 (3) - prev 0.97 > 1.00 !

xxheroxx

01:13:607 (2) -

SPOILER

I think is better ...

03:29:036 (2) - ^

Hard

alacat

02:10:178 (3,4) - 3.32 before and after the interval, I think I'd like a little serious ...

02:13:392 (2) - Down a little.

02:16:178 (1) - Seems to be a little obscured

cRyo[iceeicee]

01:55:392 (4) - Delete or Urge you to narrow gap a little bit of back and forth ...?

CXu

01:45:535 (2,3,1) - Prev 1.10>1.00 Can you try?

DakeDekaane

01:21:535 (1) - x164 y138 Can you try?

xxheroxx

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Megurine Luka 2013-06-24T01:27:47+00:00

Hello from your queue

General

• No

Normal

Andrea

• 01:23:035 (1) - kinda nazi but one grid down makes it on the same line with previous slider
01:25:607 (5) - I think this makes the flow more fluent

02:33:107 (2,3) - I think del 2 and move 3 to 02:33:107 then makes it longer fit the vocal more.
02:56:892 (3) - try x=324 y=348 makes the previous slider surround the circle, and you don't need to change the following slider since it also fits distance snapping
03:50:464 (2) - make the end point a little bit right to make a better encircle for 1?
04:15:750 (1) - try x= 244 y = 104 and makes it like

04:48:321 (1,2,3) - same with previous

xxheroxx

• 01:13:607 (2) - I do think the slider end can stack 01:12:321 (5) - which makes the map more clean and beautiful

01:21:535 (3) - why not curved slider like

03:29:036 (2) - the same with previous
04:23:892 (3) - make a parallelogram shape with 04:22:607 (4,1,2) - ?
05:43:821 (6) - try

Hard

alacat

• 02:20:250 (2) - I think if you can copy a 02:19:607 (1) - and ctrl g makes the map more fun and prettier than current , and somehow it fits the vocal
like:

cRyo[iceeicee]

I like your part. Very much.

CXu

01:52:821 (1) - I think ctrl+g seems have a better flow

xxheroxx

01:35:035 (1) - stack the end of 01:33:321 (1) - maybe?

That's all I got~

Good Luck

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Diasios 2013-06-24T10:33:54+00:00

Thanks guys!

cRyo: feel free to edit this 04:08:250 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1) if you don't like it, I personally think it's a mediocre pattern but I don't want to change your patterns without your permission.

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CXu 2013-06-24T15:12:33+00:00

Natsu

Natsu wrote:
CXu
01:46:607 (2,3,4) - why the distance is not the same? i preffer if you make a perfec triangle here - Well since people keep complaining about this, I'll make this even
03:00:750 is better if you finish this on 03:01:178 Or if you add a beat 03:01:178 following vocals - Not following vocals here.
03:01:392 ^
03:02:464 conver this one in a 1/2 slider following vocals? gonna fit better here imo - Sounds weird to me, and feels off.
03:08:035 - 03:08:464 map this parts like you did on symilar place like 03:04:178 (1,2,3,4) - - Doesn't make sense to map the drum when I switched from the drum at 03:05:892 (1) -
03:08:035 ^

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[ Zzz ] wrote:
CXu

01:45:535 (2,3,1) - Prev 1.10>1.00 Can you try? - Can I try what?

Megurine Luka

Megurine Luka wrote:
CXu
01:52:821 (1) - I think ctrl+g seems have a better flow - Well, I agree, but that might end up covering the reverse arrow later again, so I'll refrain from doing this

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Diasios 2013-06-24T15:55:19+00:00

Updated!

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alacat 2013-06-25T12:27:13+00:00

Natsu

Natsu wrote:
alacat
00:41:892 remove NC then add NC here 00:41:678 to be consistent with like xhero did on 00:27:750 (1,2,3) - keep on now.
00:47:035 add a circle with clap here then start spinner on 00:47:142 gonna be better for hitsounds emm...not fit for me.
00:54:964 whistle on the tail too for consistency with th music and with the one you add on the head no.
05:11:678 add a circle here feel weird when you play it ^same x.x

Zzz

Zzz wrote:
alacat

02:10:178 (3,4) - 3.32 before and after the interval, I think I'd like a little serious ... emm... no problem imo.

02:13:392 (2) - Down a little. ...? keep on now.

02:16:178 (1) - Seems to be a little obscured ^same.

Megurine Luka

Megurine Luka wrote:
alacat
• 02:20:250 (2) - I think if you can copy a 02:19:607 (1) - and ctrl g makes the map more fun and prettier than current , and somehow it fits the vocal
like: no change.

Thank you for modding.

DakeDekaane

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DakeDekaane 2013-06-25T19:33:59+00:00

Natsu wrote:
Hi from your Queue

DakeDekaane
01:15:750 just saying the most of players dont like this circle hidden under sliders maybe you want to try another placement /*That stack fits nicely with vocals imo
02:22:392 (6,7,8) - this pattern gonna look alot better if you stack 7 head with 8 body imo /*Made a bit bigger the overlap, but not totally covered.
02:31:607 this gonna follow better vocals if you do a 1/2 slider in there imo /*Joint (2,3) into a slider, I think it fits better.
02:33:321 (1,2,3,4,1) - this patter look kinda random and bored to play imo why you dont try some start or triangle patterns on that part gonna be more fun /*I remapped a bit this part due to previous suggestion, and it was no random :c
02:36:214 add somethink here since you map the before 1/4 and i dont understand why you ignore the last with some important beat there /*I'm following the bassy percusion sounds (idk how it's called orz) so I think it's fine, I tried adding something there but sounds a bit weird to me.
03:30:964 you ignore this but you map the same sound on 03:31:392 /*Added note.
04:50:250 add somethink here feel really empty when you play it /*I think it's ok to have a tiny gap, as the next part builds a bit of tension for the kiai
04:51:642 again you ignore the strong sound here better add somethink imo /*As my previous part.
Well thats all I can suggest here also shooting a star i really like this song and map

@[ Zzz ]:I tried the coordinate you suggested but the repeat arrow would be slighty overlapped by previous slider, a bit hard to move and keep the actual shape and flow.

Thanks for modding o/

The update: http://puu.sh/3oaAV.osu :3

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Diasios 2013-06-25T19:46:52+00:00

Updated!

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Nymph 2013-07-12T09:32:30+00:00

:3 nice one, nothing to complain about so bubbled.