DenporuP - Sainou Sampler · forum

Azure

Joined November 2010

Azure 2013-07-28T06:33:35+00:00

Hello,Sapphire
I finished my diff and I think the offset of second red-line is 1101,
but I didn't change it, just check it by yourself

SPOILER

osu file format v12

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PreviewTime: 66588
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[Metadata]
Title:Sainou Sampler
TitleUnicode:サイノウサンプラー
Artist:DenporuP
ArtistUnicode:電ポルP
Creator:SapphireGhost
Version:Az's Normal
Source:
Tags:koyori Vocaloid Hatsune Miku
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Bungaku Shounen

114 posts

Joined May 2013

Bungaku Shounen 2013-08-19T08:59:27+00:00

koyori:3

ArcusCosinus

173 posts

Joined December 2012

ArcusCosinus 2013-09-08T20:22:26+00:00

Hi

Love the song :O

It is my first mod. If you think it's poor or not helpful, please ignore it.

[Easy]
01:32:704 (1) - try to remap to something like this: http://puu.sh/4mrs0.jpg
01:58:810 (2) - repeat slider
02:00:184 - try this rhythm: http://puu.sh/4mrL3.jpg
02:46:444 - add circle
03:07:055 (1, 1) - something like this: http://puu.sh/4ms9w.jpg
03:25:833 (1, 2, 3) - http://puu.sh/4msk0.jpg I think this rhythm will be better

[Az's Normal]
00:11:635 - try this rhythm http://puu.sh/4n4tp.jpg or this http://puu.sh/4n4vh.jpg
00:24:688 (4, 5, 6, 7) - delete 5, 6, repeat 4 and remap 7
00:48:505 (8) - delete
00:52:169 (7) - ^
00:55:375 - add circle at x:232|y:280
01:53:543 (2) - delete
02:14:154 (3) - whistle?
02:24:459 - this rhythm http://puu.sh/4n54R.jpg
02:28:123 - ^
02:31:788 - ^
02:40:261 (4) - delete
03:26:062 (4) - ^

[Talent]
00:27:436 - add circle at x:144|y:84
00:28:581 (1) - move it to 00:28:810 and replace to x:256|y:180
02:36:139 (1) - move to 02:35:910 and repeat

and that's all I think
Hope it will be helpful

SapphireGhost

osu! Alumni

2,618 posts

Joined June 2010

Topic Starter

SapphireGhost 2013-09-20T06:25:37+00:00

Tagre mod response

Tagre wrote:
Hi

Love the song :O

It is my first mod. If you think it's poor or not helpful, please ignore it. Thank you for giving your first mod to my map, I appreciate it!

[Easy] As a note: I am trying to maintain 222 objects in this difficulty, which makes it difficult to change some of the patterns around.
01:32:704 (1) - try to remap to something like this: http://puu.sh/4mrs0.jpg I prefer the blanket pattern I have now.
01:58:810 (2) - repeat slider I try to only use repeating sliders at key points, so it may change the consistency of the map. However, this is a good idea and I will consider it.
02:00:184 - try this rhythm: http://puu.sh/4mrL3.jpg The slider is currently this length to be consistent with the other choruses.
02:46:444 - add circle The pauses are intentional here, to provide a different flow in this section. It would also make the flow slightly strange to put a circle in this particular pattern.
03:07:055 (1, 1) - something like this: http://puu.sh/4ms9w.jpg This looks really nice, but I think makes less sense rhythmically. Again though, I will consider it.
03:25:833 (1, 2, 3) - http://puu.sh/4msk0.jpg I think this rhythm will be better Currently the pattern forms a blanket and the time of the slider's end is intentional, as the song also cuts off at the same point. So I will keep what I have now.

[Az's Normal] Waiting for Azure's response.
00:11:635 - try this rhythm http://puu.sh/4n4tp.jpg or this http://puu.sh/4n4vh.jpg
00:24:688 (4, 5, 6, 7) - delete 5, 6, repeat 4 and remap 7
00:48:505 (8) - delete
00:52:169 (7) - ^
00:55:375 - add circle at x:232|y:280
01:53:543 (2) - delete
02:14:154 (3) - whistle?
02:24:459 - this rhythm http://puu.sh/4n54R.jpg
02:28:123 - ^
02:31:788 - ^
02:40:261 (4) - delete
03:26:062 (4) - ^

[Talent]
00:27:436 - add circle at x:144|y:84 There are enough pauses in the map at this point that I think this one is justified.
00:28:581 (1) - move it to 00:28:810 and replace to x:256|y:180 I like the way the star pattern is formed curently.
02:36:139 (1) - move to 02:35:910 and repeat This changes the consistency of these patterns but it's a fair idea. I'll consider it.

and that's all I think
Hope it will be helpful I haven't changed anything yet, but your mod has given me some good things to think about. If other people agree with your suggestions I'll definitely consider adding them to the map. Thanks again for your time, and I'm happy to give you your first kudosu.

And now for my own mod to Azure:

Azure's Normal
- First of all, great difficulty. You definitely captured a lot of the creativity I was going for and added some of your own. I actually prefer your hitsounding, and the map plays nicely as well. Thank you again for making this.
01:07:055 (1,2,3,4,5) - Each chorus should probably contain the "all new combos" pattern for consistency, though because there is less colour at this point I see your reasoning for keeping it as is.
02:02:017 (1) - Overlaps with the HP bar, I would prefer if it did not.
02:54:230 (2,3,4) - Try to avoid overlap here.
02:58:810 (1) - Too much HP bar overlap again.
03:27:894 (5) - I still think it ends on the 1/8 tick here, so it'll be good to keep them consistent. More opinions wouldn't hurt though.

I think that's all I have for now. Thanks to both of you for your contributions to the mapset.

Azure

771 posts

Joined November 2010

Azure 2013-09-23T06:55:23+00:00

Tagre wrote:
Hi
[Az's Normal]
00:11:635 - try this rhythm http://puu.sh/4n4tp.jpg or this http://puu.sh/4n4vh.jpg I use thr second one, fix~
00:24:688 (4, 5, 6, 7) - delete 5, 6, repeat 4 and remap 7
00:48:505 (8) - delete
00:52:169 (7) - ^
00:55:375 - add circle at x:232|y:280
01:53:543 (2) - delete
02:14:154 (3) - whistle?
02:24:459 - this rhythm http://puu.sh/4n54R.jpg
02:28:123 - ^
02:31:788 - ^
02:40:261 (4) - delete
03:26:062 (4) - ^

all of your mods are fixed!
very useful mods, thank you

SapphireGhost wrote:
And now for my own mod to Azure:

Azure's Normal
- First of all, great difficulty. You definitely captured a lot of the creativity I was going for and added some of your own. I actually prefer your hitsounding, and the map plays nicely as well. Thank you again for making this. I like your idea
01:07:055 (1,2,3,4,5) - Each chorus should probably contain the "all new combos" pattern for consistency, though because there is less colour at this point I see your reasoning for keeping it as is. OM.. I lost this part! sorry! fixed it~
02:02:017 (1) - Overlaps with the HP bar, I would prefer if it did not. ok , fixed!
02:54:230 (2,3,4) - Try to avoid overlap here. ^
02:58:810 (1) - Too much HP bar overlap again. ^
03:27:894 (5) - I still think it ends on the 1/8 tick here, so it'll be good to keep them consistent. More opinions wouldn't hurt though. lol I am so careless, fix the slider ending on 1/8 03:28:295

I think that's all I have for now. Thanks to both of you for your contributions to the mapset.

thank your mod Sapphire

I like the song and your idea in this song so I made the GD

Thank you for accepting my Normal
GL!

Oh I forgot this

osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: DenporuP - Sainou Sampler.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1234
PreviewTime: 66597
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 1.5
BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:Sainou Sampler
TitleUnicode:サイノウサンプラー
Artist:DenporuP
ArtistUnicode:電ポルP
Creator:SapphireGhost
Version:Az's Normal
Source:
Tags:Azure koyori Vocaloid Hatsune Miku Talent
BeatmapID:290500
BeatmapSetID:93086

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:3
CircleSize:3
OverallDifficulty:3
ApproachRate:4
SliderMultiplier:1.46
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"test.jpg",0,0
Video,0,"latent.avi"
//Break Periods
2,30613,35506
2,80079,84971
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,100,100,100

[TimingPoints]
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1101,458.015267175573,4,2,0,50,1,0
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208295,-100,4,2,0,5,0,0


[Colours]
Combo1 : 125,125,255
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Kinomi

1,223 posts

Joined August 2012

Kinomi 2013-09-23T16:34:45+00:00

Hi~hi~
As your req Ghost w/

General
OD8 hard 0.0

Easy
01:12:551 (1) - rotate a bit

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02:18:963 (2) - try this?

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02:55:146 (1) - move it down and blanket with 02:56:978 (1) -

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Princess Az
AR HP OD +1？
normal要不要这么难
00:09:574 (4,5,6) - 这样摆并不是很好，推荐用更流线更好读的摆法摆这个三角形

SPOILER

01:30:871 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这边跟音乐加whistle？
间距问题,感觉细节做的比较粗糙，有个疑问就是为什么加速段间距反而大了，1.4加上加速间距变的实在有点大。。。太鬼畜，而且SV相同的段间距也有没有统一
有点为了pattern乱动的感觉，至少SV相同的段落，间距应该统一
00:38:200 (4) - 眼睛看得出的误差
02:05:452 (2) - ^
01:07:971 (3) - 没必要为了时间间隔那么远的一个物件stack而改间距
02:29:497 (1,2) - 为什么粘在一起了，02:36:826 (1,2,3,4) - 这边又分开了，感觉会比较乱
如果为了不粘在一起感觉应该拿出计算器按一按到底改成多少
02:54:917 (3) - 这个应该是1.3
03:27:894 (5) - =。=什么情况

Talent
01:37:742 (4) - decrease its spacing with01:37:513 (3) - and increase its spacing with 01:38:200 (1) - is more logical
01:52:856 (1,1) - add whistle on the end?
02:25:146 (1) - whistle on the head
and same suggestion in similar parts
02:38:429 (2,2,2) - about these whistle..I suggest you to remove them add add whistle on the head of 02:37:742 (1,1,1) -
02:06:139 (1) - - this 1/4 jump is too hard in a hrd diff...
03:07:055 (1) - ^

that's all
challenging map/w\
and NC is interestedly used

edit:ah..sorry I'm baldrace,I changed my name

SapphireGhost

osu! Alumni

2,618 posts

Joined June 2010

Topic Starter

SapphireGhost 2013-09-28T05:53:48+00:00

Tsukuyomi mod response

Tsukuyomi wrote:
Hi~hi~
As your req Ghost w/ Thanks for modding it!

General
OD8 hard 0.0 Yes, the map is not too hard so it needs a higher OD to vary the scoreboards.

Easy
01:12:551 (1) - rotate a bit Looks better, yes.
SPOILER
02:18:963 (2) - try this? Interesting idea, but this type of slider is too inconsistent with the rest of the map, so it feels out of place.
SPOILER
02:55:146 (1) - move it down and blanket with 02:56:978 (1) - Great idea, fixed.
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Princess Az Waiting for Azure's response.
AR HP OD +1？
normal要不要这么难
00:09:574 (4,5,6) - 这样摆并不是很好，推荐用更流线更好读的摆法摆这个三角形
SPOILER
01:30:871 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这边跟音乐加whistle？
间距问题,感觉细节做的比较粗糙，有个疑问就是为什么加速段间距反而大了，1.4加上加速间距变的实在有点大。。。太鬼畜，而且SV相同的段间距也有没有统一
有点为了pattern乱动的感觉，至少SV相同的段落，间距应该统一
00:38:200 (4) - 眼睛看得出的误差
02:05:452 (2) - ^
01:07:971 (3) - 没必要为了时间间隔那么远的一个物件stack而改间距
02:29:497 (1,2) - 为什么粘在一起了，02:36:826 (1,2,3,4) - 这边又分开了，感觉会比较乱
如果为了不粘在一起感觉应该拿出计算器按一按到底改成多少
02:54:917 (3) - 这个应该是1.3
03:27:894 (5) - =。=什么情况

Talent
01:37:742 (4) - decrease its spacing with01:37:513 (3) - and increase its spacing with 01:38:200 (1) - is more logical The combo is spaced 1.3x, 1.5x, 1.7x, so the transition to 1.4x is playable enough for me.
01:52:856 (1,1) - add whistle on the end? Added a soft whistle. Also changed in a similar part.
02:25:146 (1) - whistle on the head Changed the hitsounding of the previous sliders to make this a bit better.
and same suggestion in similar parts
02:38:429 (2,2,2) - about these whistle..I suggest you to remove them add add whistle on the head of 02:37:742 (1,1,1) - I will keep it the same for now because I like where the finishes are placed currently.
02:06:139 (1) - - this 1/4 jump is too hard in a hrd diff... Good catch, spacing has been changed.
03:07:055 (1) - ^ Changed with corresponding pattern.

that's all
challenging map/w\
and NC is interestedly used Thank you, I was aiming to achieve these things.

edit:ah..sorry I'm baldrace,I changed my name w

I will try to get a recheck to your map soon in return.

To Azure: Previously your difficulty contained 333 objects, but you've changed it some since then. The Easy difficulty contains 222 objects, so if you can work your difficulty back up to 333 that would be a fun number to keep.

Azure

771 posts

Joined November 2010

Azure 2013-09-28T15:56:12+00:00

Tsukuyomi wrote:
Princess Az
AR HP OD +1？
normal要不要这么难我都沒加，想做個漂亮的4星normal給Sapphire
00:09:574 (4,5,6) - 这样摆并不是很好，推荐用更流线更好读的摆法摆这个三角形這裡你仔細聽其實是跟音高的
SPOILER
01:30:871 (1,2,3,4,5) - 这边跟音乐加whistle？這裡我是故意甚麼都不加的，這樣更凸顯後面的部分
间距问题,感觉细节做的比较粗糙，有个疑问就是为什么加速段间距反而大了，1.4加上加速间距变的实在有点大。。。太鬼畜，而且SV相同的段间距也有没有统一有点为了pattern乱动的感觉，至少SV相同的段落，间距应该统一
果然還是被發現了嗎...說實在的，在做的時候不小心被我用滾輪滾亂了，所以這個難度的間距是亂的...orz
00:38:200 (4) - 眼睛看得出的误差 fix
02:05:452 (2) - ^fix
01:07:971 (3) - 没必要为了时间间隔那么远的一个物件stack而改间距不過也沒問題吧...
02:29:497 (1,2) - 为什么粘在一起了，02:36:826 (1,2,3,4) - 这边又分开了，感觉会比较乱這兩邊的音樂跟歌詞不一樣吧...
如果为了不粘在一起感觉应该拿出计算器按一按到底改成多少
02:54:917 (3) - 这个应该是1.3 Sapphire說不要overlap

03:27:894 (5) - =。=什么情况這裡本來就是結束在1/8的地方，不然你可以看最高難度...

thank you for mod~

SapphireGhost wrote:
To Azure: Previously your difficulty contained 333 objects, but you've changed it some since then. The Easy difficulty contains 222 objects, so if you can work your difficulty back up to 333 that would be a fun number to keep.

ok~ I added some notes

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Mira-san

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Mira-san 2013-11-24T09:24:06+00:00

Hi.

Your request.

[Easy]
02:36:826 (1,2,1,2)
- Make this like a perfect parallelogram? :v

[Az's Normal]
02:48:734 (6)
- The slider's end is not properly stacked on the end of (4). [Move to x:293 y:299]

[Talent]

02:26:749 (5)
- This slider doesn't look clean. Might change to this.

SPOILER

03:20:795 (1,2,3,4)
- Make these sliders a perfect square slider jump. /o/

That's all I can give.
Noob modder.

SapphireGhost

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SapphireGhost 2013-12-01T07:20:27+00:00

Mira-san mod response

Mira-san wrote:
Hi.

Your request.

[Easy]
02:36:826 (1,2,1,2)
- Make this like a perfect parallelogram? :v I managed to get a trapezoid out of it. This was bothering me too, as I was trying to avoid overlap with the following slider.

[Az's Normal]
02:48:734 (6)
- The slider's end is not properly stacked on the end of (4). [Move to x:293 y:299] Fixed for Azure since it's only a 2 pixel change for the better.

[Talent]

02:26:749 (5)
- This slider doesn't look clean. Might change to this. Yes, thank you. This looks better.
SPOILER

03:20:795 (1,2,3,4)
- Make these sliders a perfect square slider jump. /o/ All these sliders are actually the previous four sliders in reverse order, so it's for special effect.

That's all I can give.
Noob modder. Good mod, though! You pointed out some issues I definitely wanted fixed. Sorry for the late response.

This map is still aiming for ranking. Thanks to everyone for your support so far.

Because it's apparently necessary, I will defend my difficulty names now. The difficulty labelled Talent contains elements of both a Hard and an Insane and I do not wish to label it as either. I have consistently labelled the highest difficulty with a special name (appropriate to the map) throughout my other maps and people have not complained about it being unclear.

Garven

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Garven 2013-12-08T08:01:33+00:00

Commented on the possible flux state of the difficulty naming schema along with the similar gray combo colors and moving the first timing section to negative 700 something. Easy is boss, even with those giant circles.

blissfulyoshi

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blissfulyoshi 2013-12-21T21:18:32+00:00

I wrote up part of a mod, but since I need to leave this computer for a while, I am just going to post what I have (no kds pls)

Easy:
00:17:131 (3) - this looked better when you drop it down a bit and make 2 follow its curve

SPOILER

00:19:421 (1,2) - blanket better

SPOILER

01:18:963 (3,4,1) - I feel these should be part of the same combo
01:53:510 (1,1,1,1) - I really didn't like how the middle sliders overlapped themselves in an ugly manner, so I recommend you separate them

SPOILER

02:25:863 (3) - feel this slider would be better if it had a sharper curve that pointed more toward 02:26:451 (1)
02:28:804 (1,2) - Again, make these 2 sliders complement each other in some way
02:47:627 (1,2) - ^

SapphireGhost

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SapphireGhost 2014-01-05T22:55:31+00:00

blissfulyoshi mod response

blissfulyoshi wrote:
I wrote up part of a mod, but since I need to leave this computer for a while, I am just going to post what I have (no kds pls)

Easy:
00:17:131 (3) - this looked better when you drop it down a bit and make 2 follow its curve
SPOILER
Small change, but I agree. Fixed some of the notes around it as well.
00:19:421 (1,2) - blanket better
SPOILER
Okay.
01:18:963 (3,4,1) - I feel these should be part of the same combo On the other difficulties, this combo ends with the end of a slider but doing so would change the 222 objects in the map, so in total I would like to leave it the way it is.
At this point, it appears that the mod was meant to go to a different map, so I'll stop here.
01:53:510 (1,1,1,1) - I really didn't like how the middle sliders overlapped themselves in an ugly manner, so I recommend you separate them
SPOILER
SPOILER
02:25:863 (3) - feel this slider would be better if it had a sharper curve that pointed more toward 02:26:451 (1)
02:28:804 (1,2) - Again, make these 2 sliders complement each other in some way
02:47:627 (1,2) - ^

Back from the grave once more. I'll PM blissfulyoshi and Garven to see where they stand on this.

blissfulyoshi

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blissfulyoshi 2014-01-08T09:53:20+00:00

Sorry SG for leaving you a terrible partial mod like that. I don't really have any way to apologize. I guess the least I can do is finish up the mod in a timely fashion, so let's begin.

Easy:
00:36:826 (1,2,1) - I would move these up a bit so that 00:37:742 (1) points more directly at 00:38:658 (2)
01:38:200 (1) - make symmetrical
01:58:352 (1,2) - I don't like how 2 does not follow the line created by connecting 1 and 2, and I feel that the transition there is more important than the blanketing of 02:00:184 (1)
03:03:391 (2,1,1) - not having these parallel, makes me feel weird, but not sure how to fix it

Az's Normal:
This not has a pretty low AR for the note density. I would consider going +1, but up to you.
00:06:826 (5,2) - Because of the low AR you can see 2 being overlapped by 5 as 5 is fading away
00:20:108 (2,4) - these can definitely be adjusted to point more directly toward the center of 3
00:42:093 (4,6) - tbh, I don't think the red anchor point looks that great in these (I noticed that you really like these sharp edges a lot, so I guess I won't mention these again. I just personally don't like them much)
00:45:070 (1,6) - another slight overlap caused by low AR. I am going to stop mentioning these since I really think you should increase the AR
00:59:726 (1) - please blanket the end of 7 better

SPOILER

01:05:223 (5) - (because I'm feeling like nazimodding), please make symmetric
01:41:406 (8) - probably would look better if you blanketed the end of 01:40:948 (7)
01:44:612 (6,7,1,2) - I am really wondering are you intentionally not pointing toward the center of the object. It really looks weird when you are so close to point toward the center of the object, but you miss. It really looks more like an error than anything else imo
01:52:398 (6,7,1) - because of the stacking, this stack makes a horrible overlap with the hp bar, please find a way to reposition it
01:54:688 (3,4) - just noticed, you seem to be doing this opposite flow a lot (where you have a repeat going 1 direction, and the direction to your note in another). Admittedly, it is not too bad at this slider speed, but just makign sure you are aware of it
02:07:284 (1) - please blanket the end of 02:05:681 (3) better

SPOILER

02:09:803 (2,3) - with the timing interval between these notes being so long on top of being 2 sliders, notes like these felt like antijumps and felt more tiring to play than anything else imo.
02:40:490 (1) - this short of a spinner in a normal diff (on top of having notes on both sides).... that is pretty hard for an easier diff imo
02:44:154 (1) - make symmetric?
03:07:742 (2,3) - make the ending of 2 parallel to 3 (it is slightly off)

I don't really have too many problems with the way this diff is mapped, but the aesthetics can use some huge improvements imo.

===========================
Sadly, the 26 hours I gave myself is up. I am sorry for failing you SG. For now posting what I have (because my post for normal is so big). I will do my mod for Talent, hopefully tomorrow.

Edit: since you didn't reply yet, continuing on

Talent:
00:25:604 (2,3) - this jump keeps throwing me off. 1 follows a whistle, but 2 follows a vocal throwing my timing off, making me miss 3. I also don't feel like such a large jump fits that well with what you did so far. Personally, I would have combined 2 and 3 into a single slider
00:26:291 (4) - can you rotate this so it points more directly toward the start of 00:26:291 (4) because I at first thought you wanted to blanket it (you tecnically can do both, but doing neither is making me sad)
01:39:574 (3,1) - The vocals at 01:37:284 (2,3,4) have a stronger impactm but the jump here is larger and has an opposing flow. Are you sure you want it like that?
01:58:810 (1,2) - being the only stack in the chorus, this felt weird to play
02:07:284 (1,2,3) - is there a reason why the distance between 1 and 2 is so short in comparison to 2 to 3, especially when people usually release early from sliders giving them more time to travel distances.
02:47:360 (4,5) and 02:50:795 (2,3) - these jumps made very little sense to me, but I doubt you will change them
03:03:391 (4) - move the middle point up a bit, you can tell the slider goes below the straight line a bit before going up
03:04:307 (1) - I know you want to keep this pattern but 1x to 2x sv is a huge jump in speed that is annoying to play

As for diff names, from what I have been getting, the diff names are supposed to be of the same topic if you want to use custom ones, so if you want to keep Talent, we'll have to change the other 2.

======================
Nice mapset overall. You definitely had some cool ideas. I tried not to be too nazi, but I think normal needs some work aesthetically. As for combo colors, give me more time to think xD.

Zero__wind

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Zero__wind 2014-01-09T10:59:46+00:00

seems finally got going after waiting for long
and SG you really need to keep that diff name ;w;

SapphireGhost

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SapphireGhost 2014-01-18T02:48:31+00:00

blissfulyoshi mod response 2

blissfulyoshi wrote:
Sorry SG for leaving you a terrible partial mod like that. I don't really have any way to apologize. I guess the least I can do is finish up the mod in a timely fashion, so let's begin.

Easy:
00:36:826 (1,2,1) - I would move these up a bit so that 00:37:742 (1) points more directly at 00:38:658 (2) The pattern is symmetrical as is though, so I think it's alright.
01:38:200 (1) - make symmetrical Done.
01:58:352 (1,2) - I don't like how 2 does not follow the line created by connecting 1 and 2, and I feel that the transition there is more important than the blanketing of 02:00:184 (1) I prefer the blanketing as it is now.
03:03:391 (2,1,1) - not having these parallel, makes me feel weird, but not sure how to fix it I think you'll have to push through the pain.

Az's Normal: Will wait for a response from Azure and hopefully repair the 333 object count.
This not has a pretty low AR for the note density. I would consider going +1, but up to you.
00:06:826 (5,2) - Because of the low AR you can see 2 being overlapped by 5 as 5 is fading away
00:20:108 (2,4) - these can definitely be adjusted to point more directly toward the center of 3
00:42:093 (4,6) - tbh, I don't think the red anchor point looks that great in these (I noticed that you really like these sharp edges a lot, so I guess I won't mention these again. I just personally don't like them much)
00:45:070 (1,6) - another slight overlap caused by low AR. I am going to stop mentioning these since I really think you should increase the AR
00:59:726 (1) - please blanket the end of 7 better
SPOILER
01:05:223 (5) - (because I'm feeling like nazimodding), please make symmetric
01:41:406 (8) - probably would look better if you blanketed the end of 01:40:948 (7)
01:44:612 (6,7,1,2) - I am really wondering are you intentionally not pointing toward the center of the object. It really looks weird when you are so close to point toward the center of the object, but you miss. It really looks more like an error than anything else imo
01:52:398 (6,7,1) - because of the stacking, this stack makes a horrible overlap with the hp bar, please find a way to reposition it
01:54:688 (3,4) - just noticed, you seem to be doing this opposite flow a lot (where you have a repeat going 1 direction, and the direction to your note in another). Admittedly, it is not too bad at this slider speed, but just makign sure you are aware of it
02:07:284 (1) - please blanket the end of 02:05:681 (3) better
SPOILER
02:09:803 (2,3) - with the timing interval between these notes being so long on top of being 2 sliders, notes like these felt like antijumps and felt more tiring to play than anything else imo.
02:40:490 (1) - this short of a spinner in a normal diff (on top of having notes on both sides).... that is pretty hard for an easier diff imo
02:44:154 (1) - make symmetric?
03:07:742 (2,3) - make the ending of 2 parallel to 3 (it is slightly off)

I don't really have too many problems with the way this diff is mapped, but the aesthetics can use some huge improvements imo.

===========================
Sadly, the 26 hours I gave myself is up. I am sorry for failing you SG. For now posting what I have (because my post for normal is so big). I will do my mod for Talent, hopefully tomorrow.

Edit: since you didn't reply yet, continuing on

Talent:
00:25:604 (2,3) - this jump keeps throwing me off. 1 follows a whistle, but 2 follows a vocal throwing my timing off, making me miss 3. I also don't feel like such a large jump fits that well with what you did so far. Personally, I would have combined 2 and 3 into a single slider I couldn't find a way to change it that I liked so I kept it as is. I wasn't very experienced with mapping jumps when I first created this map, but most of the patterns still connect with each other in some way that makes it difficult to change.
00:26:291 (4) - can you rotate this so it points more directly toward the start of 00:26:291 (4) because I at first thought you wanted to blanket it (you tecnically can do both, but doing neither is making me sad) I think it's pointing at the next note clearly enough. Unfortunately changing the position or rotating it both mess up the surrounding patterns in some way.
01:39:574 (3,1) - The vocals at 01:37:284 (2,3,4) have a stronger impactm but the jump here is larger and has an opposing flow. Are you sure you want it like that? I think it's alright since this is more mapped for how it looks and the jumps are there to make the transition to a higher jump distance less harsh.
01:58:810 (1,2) - being the only stack in the chorus, this felt weird to play This seems to be a side effect of the main pattern, since it doesn't leave much room for other notes. So this is just how the notes are placed to avoid too much overlap at AR7.
02:07:284 (1,2,3) - is there a reason why the distance between 1 and 2 is so short in comparison to 2 to 3, especially when people usually release early from sliders giving them more time to travel distances. This one I could change successfully without messing up any other patterns, good suggestion.
02:47:360 (4,5) and 02:50:795 (2,3) - these jumps made very little sense to me, but I doubt you will change them The main reason is to place the notes in the same positions as previous patterns.
03:03:391 (4) - move the middle point up a bit, you can tell the slider goes below the straight line a bit before going up The notes are placed this way mainly to avoid overlap with the following pattern.
03:04:307 (1) - I know you want to keep this pattern but 1x to 2x sv is a huge jump in speed that is annoying to play I think the motif should be clear enough by now to make it readable, though. The idea is making unintuitive patterns intuitive by giving the player hints along the way.

As for diff names, from what I have been getting, the diff names are supposed to be of the same topic if you want to use custom ones, so if you want to keep Talent, we'll have to change the other 2. Since the difficulty naming rule is still murky, I will keep these names for the time being.

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Nice mapset overall. You definitely had some cool ideas. I tried not to be too nazi, but I think normal needs some work aesthetically. As for combo colors, give me more time to think xD. Thanks! Sorry I couldn't apply more of the suggestions without messing up patterns in the map. My more recent maps tend to not have this issue as much. Lastly, no worries about the late modding. I know life is busy and mods are time consuming.

Azure

771 posts

Joined November 2010

Azure 2014-01-18T03:45:49+00:00

blissfulyoshi wrote:
Az's Normal:
This not has a pretty low AR for the note density. I would consider going +1, but up to you. after I saw your mods,I think AR+1 will be better for this diff

00:06:826 (5,2) - Because of the low AR you can see 2 being overlapped by 5 as 5 is fading away because I changed AR to 6, so it's fixed
00:20:108 (2,4) - these can definitely be adjusted to point more directly toward the center of 3
00:42:093 (4,6) - tbh, I don't think the red anchor point looks that great in these (I noticed that you really like these sharp edges a lot, so I guess I won't mention these again. I just personally don't like them much) ok..but I really like this xD
00:45:070 (1,6) - another slight overlap caused by low AR. I am going to stop mentioning these since I really think you should increase the AR same as 00:06:826 (5,2)
00:59:726 (1) - please blanket the end of 7 better
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01:05:223 (5) - (because I'm feeling like nazimodding), please make symmetric
01:41:406 (8) - probably would look better if you blanketed the end of 01:40:948 (7)
01:44:612 (6,7,1,2) - I am really wondering are you intentionally not pointing toward the center of the object. It really looks weird when you are so close to point toward the center of the object, but you miss. It really looks more like an error than anything else imo I think it's not a big problem, but I move little bits to fix it
01:52:398 (6,7,1) - because of the stacking, this stack makes a horrible overlap with the hp bar, please find a way to reposition it ok
01:54:688 (3,4) - just noticed, you seem to be doing this opposite flow a lot (where you have a repeat going 1 direction, and the direction to your note in another). Admittedly, it is not too bad at this slider speed, but just makign sure you are aware of it
02:07:284 (1) - please blanket the end of 02:05:681 (3) better
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02:09:803 (2,3) - with the timing interval between these notes being so long on top of being 2 sliders, notes like these felt like antijumps and felt more tiring to play than anything else imo.
02:40:490 (1) - this short of a spinner in a normal diff (on top of having notes on both sides).... that is pretty hard for an easier diff imo I changed this spinner to slider
02:44:154 (1) - make symmetric?
03:07:742 (2,3) - make the ending of 2 parallel to 3 (it is slightly off)

I don't really have too many problems with the way this diff is mapped, but the aesthetics can use some huge improvements imo hh, ok
most of your mods I have fixed (including the part I didn't reply), thank you!

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Garven

osu! Alumni

5,857 posts

Joined January 2010

Garven 2014-01-25T00:56:21+00:00

[General]
00:36:826 - You should raise the volume here. The song gets much louder, but the maps do not.
You know how I feel about new combo spam, but I do see why you did it.
Did you ever try out that empty SB element to extend the end of the map so the video finishes properly?

[Easy]
02:40:490 (1,1) - This blanket could be a little better

[Normal]
Tick rate 2 fits this song best, and would fit your map better too.
The video doesn't play on this difficulty...
03:09:803 (1,2,3) - Check your spacing

[才能]
Check your uninherited timing sections!
00:25:375 (1,2) - I dunno... I feel the jump at 2, 3, not at 1, 2.
03:21:711 (3,4) - Strange that you changed the spacing on this one

SapphireGhost

osu! Alumni

2,618 posts

Joined June 2010

Topic Starter

SapphireGhost 2014-02-01T04:07:04+00:00

Garven mod response

Garven wrote:
[General]
00:36:826 - You should raise the volume here. The song gets much louder, but the maps do not. The volume sounds alright to me and I like relatively quiet hitsounds, and it would also require a lot of volume fixing. Tell me if it's imperative to fix, though.
You know how I feel about new combo spam, but I do see why you did it. Indeed I did.
Did you ever try out that empty SB element to extend the end of the map so the video finishes properly? This had no effect, unfortunately.

[Easy]
02:40:490 (1,1) - This blanket could be a little better It appears alright to my blanketing sensibilities.

[Normal] Will wait for a response from Azure.
Tick rate 2 fits this song best, and would fit your map better too.
The video doesn't play on this difficulty...
03:09:803 (1,2,3) - Check your spacing

[才能]
Check your uninherited timing sections! Oh, wow. This is fixed now.
00:25:375 (1,2) - I dunno... I feel the jump at 2, 3, not at 1, 2. Begrudgingly fixed.
03:21:711 (3,4) - Strange that you changed the spacing on this one These are the previous sliders in reverse order, so there is a logic to it.

Azure

771 posts

Joined November 2010

Azure 2014-02-19T09:06:10+00:00

Garven wrote:
[Normal]
Tick rate 2 fits this song best, and would fit your map better too. ok changed it to 2
The video doesn't play on this difficulty... add
03:09:803 (1,2,3) - Check your spacingfix

Thank you Garven!

SPOILER

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SapphireGhost

osu! Alumni

2,618 posts

Joined June 2010

Topic Starter

SapphireGhost 2014-02-20T08:54:19+00:00

All difficulties are up to date now. And it's finally time to give an ending to this chapter.

blissfulyoshi

osu! Alumni

4,755 posts

Joined July 2008

blissfulyoshi 2014-03-11T08:13:56+00:00

Let's see if we can finally end this. I'll try to be more accepting tonight, so lets go.

Not sure what you want to do about diff names, so just leaving a note here.

Easy: I had some nazi blanketing things, but I guess I won't say anything

Az's Normal:
01:03:391 (1,2,3,4,5) - I thought it was a bit weird how you switched between flow styles with 1 and 5 being independent notes while 2,3,4 forming a continuous curve, so I tried to connect things a bit more http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1407054 (just a suggestion, and obv positions can be better)
03:27:894 (5) - just curious, why is there a slight jump there? It works, but you also used very few jumps in this diff.

Talent:
01:58:810 (1,2) - I just tried it again right now, and I still have complaints about how this flows since the slider speed suggest you would have a larger spacing here. I suggest ctrl+g on 2 and put 1 at the new start of 2
02:17:360 - I was a bit disoriented by how you changed your snap here since the beat on this note was a lot easier for me to follow
03:03:391 (4) - but this still looks terrible, and moving it up 2 grid 4 won't cause any overlaps

=========================
I really don't have large complaints about this mapset (I still want to nazi it a lot), but I am perfectly fine with bubbling it the way it is, assuming difficulty names are fine. Well, I'll leave up to you to decide how to finish this. Contact me when you ready.

Kamikaze

2,898 posts

Joined November 2012

Kamikaze 2014-03-17T18:10:51+00:00

Skip Mode to the ending *throws a star*

Azure

771 posts

Joined November 2010

Azure 2014-03-19T10:04:52+00:00

Az's Normal:
01:03:391 (1,2,3,4,5) - I thought it was a bit weird how you switched between flow styles with 1 and 5 being independent notes while 2,3,4 forming a continuous curve, so I tried to connect things a bit more http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1407054 (just a suggestion, and obv positions can be better)
03:27:894 (5) - just curious, why is there a slight jump there? It works, but you also used very few jumps in this diff.

fix all of them, thank you
here is the code

SPOILER

osu file format v12

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AudioLeadIn: 1234
PreviewTime: 66597
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 0
WidescreenStoryboard: 0

[Editor]
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BeatDivisor: 8
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 2

[Metadata]
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TitleUnicode:サイノウサンプラー
Artist:DenporuP
ArtistUnicode:電ポルP
Creator:SapphireGhost
Version:Az's Normal
Source:
Tags:Azure koyori Vocaloid Hatsune Miku Talent
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Zero__wind

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Zero__wind 2014-04-13T08:45:04+00:00

I think I don't have the talent to wait for so long

General
add "Nostalgic Lover" in tags as it's the album's name?
the widescreen support on Easy should be disabled for consistency
maybe find a bg with higher resolution?

Easy
00:37:742 (1) - missing finish on head
00:41:406 (1) - ^ but not that important
00:45:070 (1) - ^ also optional
00:48:734 (1) - ^ and I don't really like the clap at the reversing point as it's actually out of place, I'd remove it if I were you
00:52:398 (1) - missing important finish on head I think, as you used finish at 01:03:391 (1) -
00:54:688 (2,3,4) - shouldn't the clap be on 2&4 instead of on 3?
00:58:352 (2,3,4) - ^ and also you may consider a finish on 4
00:59:726 (1) - a finish on head would sound good
01:02:017 (2,3,4) - similar point
01:17:131 (2) - you could try a finish at its end to go with the cymbals, also I'd prefer to live without the clap on head
01:19:421 (4) - a whistle would sound good here?
01:27:207 (1) - missing important finish on head
01:38:200 (1) - same as 00:48:734 (1) -
02:06:597 (3) - same as 01:17:131 (2) -
02:34:994 (1) - probably need a finish here for consistency, referring to 02:31:330 (1) -
03:26:291 - the last finish is a bit loud to me, but it's ok if you wanna keep it, also for~~Hard~~ no I mean Talent

Az's Normal
AR5 姐姐太鬼畜了 130的N都用6
00:12:780 (3) - 为什么头上不whistle了？
00:13:467 (4) - 这个也是
00:41:406 (1) - 这里挺重的拍用soft比较奇怪 soft sample+ normal finish？
00:45:070 (1) - 这个头上也是一样
00:48:734 (1) - 同上，whistle可以不要了
01:05:223 (5) - 把这个往下挪一点吧这样到01:06:597 (6) - 的间距就能保持1.3x了
01:30:871 (1) - 头上用个clap或者好歹用个normal吧毕竟有一声鼓
01:32:246 (4) - whistle？
02:05:681 (3) - 这个地方节奏不适合折返两次因为从02:06:597 - 这里开始就进入下一句了改成下面这样更好

02:07:971 (2) - 头上再加个finish吧音乐里超级响的OAO
02:24:001 (1) - 这里应该加finish的呀
02:27:665 (1) - 这里也是
02:40:490 (5) - 头上加个finish不错？或者像前面一样用normal 尾巴上也需要个normal配合鼓吧
02:47:818 (5,1) - 这两个应该swap NC 然后02:51:482 (2,1) - 再swap NC 会比较合曲因为02:51:482 (2) - 这里明显是进入新段落嘛
03:06:139 (1) - 这里比第二段里那个地方好一点但是前面已经改了的话这里就也一起改掉吧

Talent
yes it's not Hard, it's Talent
~~no OD8 is omg use at most 7 plz?~~ well, I just found that Hitorinbo Envy is also with OD8 so, eh, nothing
AR7 or 8 either ok to me
00:27:665 (2) - this rhythm is weird. I really don't get any suitable sound ofr a beat at 00:27:665 - and I think you should really move it to 00:27:436 - and add a circle at 00:28:123 - for consistency
00:30:184 (5) - I find that a whistle sounds quite good at this point
00:52:169 (1) - intended single NC? I think it's ok to live without
01:18:505 (2) - try a finish on head for the cymbals?
01:33:849 (4,5,6) - maybe clap on them all? I think they share quite the same sound effect
01:41:635 (1) - same as 00:52:169 (1) -
01:49:192 (1) - should really have a finish on head to emphasize
02:07:971 (2) - same as 01:18:505 (2) -
02:36:139 (1) - no, I really don't think this is still working like the previous ones. it's time to change the rhythm accordingly, plz try to rearrange the rhythm like

02:47:818 (1) - I'd say this jump is quite big at the soft part, see if you wanna rework on it a bit
03:21:711 (3) - not sure if you need a whistle on head, the hitsounding for this part is a bit complex

That should be all, get this going plz

SapphireGhost

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SapphireGhost 2014-06-30T05:03:05+00:00

Zero__wind mod response

Zero__wind wrote:
I think I don't have the talent to wait for so long I hope you're still out there.

General
add "Nostalgic Lover" in tags as it's the album's name? Good suggestion, I've added it.
the widescreen support on Easy should be disabled for consistency Also fixed.
maybe find a bg with higher resolution? I'd be open to this if I could find one.

Easy
00:37:742 (1) - missing finish on head That's true, I guess it just sounded like there was one in the background already. I added this.
00:41:406 (1) - ^ but not that important Yes, I'll leave this out.
00:45:070 (1) - ^ also optional Same as above.
00:48:734 (1) - ^ and I don't really like the clap at the reversing point as it's actually out of place, I'd remove it if I were you Okay, makes sense.
00:52:398 (1) - missing important finish on head I think, as you used finish at 01:03:391 (1) - Yes, good.
00:54:688 (2,3,4) - shouldn't the clap be on 2&4 instead of on 3? I think of this part as like a half BPM 2 & 4, so I think I'll keep it.
00:58:352 (2,3,4) - ^ and also you may consider a finish on 4 Nice and edgy.
00:59:726 (1) - a finish on head would sound good Since I added the above one, I'll leave this one out.
01:02:017 (2,3,4) - similar point I'm okay with it as it is.
01:17:131 (2) - you could try a finish at its end to go with the cymbals, also I'd prefer to live without the clap on head Changed the hitsounding in this section in general.
01:19:421 (4) - a whistle would sound good here? ^
01:27:207 (1) - missing important finish on head Added.
01:38:200 (1) - same as 00:48:734 (1) - Made things consistent.
02:06:597 (3) - same as 01:17:131 (2) - ^
02:34:994 (1) - probably need a finish here for consistency, referring to 02:31:330 (1) - Also added.
03:26:291 - the last finish is a bit loud to me, but it's ok if you wanna keep it, also for~~Hard~~ no I mean Talent Changed to make it quieter. I can sense your passion about this former rule change.

Az's Normal 我是猫
AR5 姐姐太鬼畜了 130的N都用6
00:12:780 (3) - 为什么头上不whistle了？
00:13:467 (4) - 这个也是
00:41:406 (1) - 这里挺重的拍用soft比较奇怪 soft sample+ normal finish？
00:45:070 (1) - 这个头上也是一样
00:48:734 (1) - 同上，whistle可以不要了
01:05:223 (5) - 把这个往下挪一点吧这样到01:06:597 (6) - 的间距就能保持1.3x了
01:30:871 (1) - 头上用个clap或者好歹用个normal吧毕竟有一声鼓
01:32:246 (4) - whistle？
02:05:681 (3) - 这个地方节奏不适合折返两次因为从02:06:597 - 这里开始就进入下一句了改成下面这样更好

02:07:971 (2) - 头上再加个finish吧音乐里超级响的OAO
02:24:001 (1) - 这里应该加finish的呀
02:27:665 (1) - 这里也是
02:40:490 (5) - 头上加个finish不错？或者像前面一样用normal 尾巴上也需要个normal配合鼓吧
02:47:818 (5,1) - 这两个应该swap NC 然后02:51:482 (2,1) - 再swap NC 会比较合曲因为02:51:482 (2) - 这里明显是进入新段落嘛
03:06:139 (1) - 这里比第二段里那个地方好一点但是前面已经改了的话这里就也一起改掉吧

Talent
yes it's not Hard, it's Talent Always.
~~no OD8 is omg use at most 7 plz?~~ well, I just found that Hitorinbo Envy is also with OD8 so, eh, nothing Yes using this for consistency and a higher accuracy requirement.
AR7 or 8 either ok to me Good stuff.
00:27:665 (2) - this rhythm is weird. I really don't get any suitable sound ofr a beat at 00:27:665 - and I think you should really move it to 00:27:436 - and add a circle at 00:28:123 - for consistency Yes, this makes sense. I'm just stuck on making all the patterns fit together in their weird, incredibly structured way that I used during this period of mapping, so I don't think I have a good rework for the pattern.
00:30:184 (5) - I find that a whistle sounds quite good at this point I agree.
00:52:169 (1) - intended single NC? I think it's ok to live without Yes, it's intended because of the hitsounding and the spacing.
01:18:505 (2) - try a finish on head for the cymbals? It makes some stuff inconsistent, so I've left it out for now.
01:33:849 (4,5,6) - maybe clap on them all? I think they share quite the same sound effect Changed in a different way.
01:41:635 (1) - same as 00:52:169 (1) - Yes.
01:49:192 (1) - should really have a finish on head to emphasize Alright, changed with one other one before it.
02:07:971 (2) - same as 01:18:505 (2) - Same.
02:36:139 (1) - no, I really don't think this is still working like the previous ones. it's time to change the rhythm accordingly, plz try to rearrange the rhythm like The puush is too old now, but I see what you mean so I've tried to change it. Maybe it doesn't work, so I'll come back to it later.

02:47:818 (1) - I'd say this jump is quite big at the soft part, see if you wanna rework on it a bit It makes the other patterns work so I've kept it. Sometimes I see this pattern while listening to the song.
03:21:711 (3) - not sure if you need a whistle on head, the hitsounding for this part is a bit complex I'll keep it as is.

That should be all, get this going plz

blissfulyoshi mod response 3

blissfulyoshi wrote:
Let's see if we can finally end this. I'll try to be more accepting tonight, so lets go.

Not sure what you want to do about diff names, so just leaving a note here. And thus, it was resolved.

Easy: I had some nazi blanketing things, but I guess I won't say anything Alright.

Az's Normal: Updated.
01:03:391 (1,2,3,4,5) - I thought it was a bit weird how you switched between flow styles with 1 and 5 being independent notes while 2,3,4 forming a continuous curve, so I tried to connect things a bit more http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1407054 (just a suggestion, and obv positions can be better)
03:27:894 (5) - just curious, why is there a slight jump there? It works, but you also used very few jumps in this diff.

Talent:
01:58:810 (1,2) - I just tried it again right now, and I still have complaints about how this flows since the slider speed suggest you would have a larger spacing here. I suggest ctrl+g on 2 and put 1 at the new start of 2 The notes are placed as they are to keep consistency with other patterns, having the first note after the main slider pattern lying on the x-axis. My past mapping self's consistency has started to bother me.
02:17:360 - I was a bit disoriented by how you changed your snap here since the beat on this note was a lot easier for me to follow I see the point here, but I think there's no good way to make it more intuitive without changing the idea of the pattern.
03:03:391 (4) - but this still looks terrible, and moving it up 2 grid 4 won't cause any overlaps I tried this, but then it ended up looking too high. I think keeping it in line as it is works for my purpose.

=========================
I really don't have large complaints about this mapset (I still want to nazi it a lot), but I am perfectly fine with bubbling it the way it is, assuming difficulty names are fine. Well, I'll leave up to you to decide how to finish this. Contact me when you ready.

So guys, this is happening. Again. Still. We've all come so far.

Zero__wind

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Zero__wind 2014-06-30T05:13:48+00:00

So if it's better for me to find Azure? or to translate the modpost

Azure

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Azure 2014-07-06T12:25:15+00:00

Zero__wind wrote:
I think I don't have the talent to wait for so long
Az's Normal
AR5 姐姐太鬼畜了 130的N都用6
00:12:780 (3) - 为什么头上不whistle了？
00:13:467 (4) - 这个也是
00:41:406 (1) - 这里挺重的拍用soft比较奇怪 soft sample+ normal finish？
00:45:070 (1) - 这个头上也是一样
00:48:734 (1) - 同上，whistle可以不要了
01:05:223 (5) - 把这个往下挪一点吧这样到01:06:597 (6) - 的间距就能保持1.3x了
01:30:871 (1) - 头上用个clap或者好歹用个normal吧毕竟有一声鼓
01:32:246 (4) - whistle？
02:05:681 (3) - 这个地方节奏不适合折返两次因为从02:06:597 - 这里开始就进入下一句了改成下面这样更好看不到圖

02:07:971 (2) - 头上再加个finish吧音乐里超级响的OAO
02:24:001 (1) - 这里应该加finish的呀
02:27:665 (1) - 这里也是
02:40:490 (5) - 头上加个finish不错？或者像前面一样用normal 尾巴上也需要个normal配合鼓吧
02:47:818 (5,1) - 这两个应该swap NC 然后02:51:482 (2,1) - 再swap NC 会比较合曲因为02:51:482 (2) - 这里明显是进入新段落嘛
03:06:139 (1) - 这里比第二段里那个地方好一点但是前面已经改了的话这里就也一起改掉吧 ^

That should be all, get this going plz

其他全改了，謝謝

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Zero__wind 2014-07-06T18:40:15+00:00

Azure wrote:
Zero__wind wrote:
02:05:681 (3) - 这个地方节奏不适合折返两次因为从02:06:597 - 这里开始就进入下一句了改成下面这样更好看不到圖

maybe puush atuomaticaly deleted the pic as it's been too long =.=
I think I was once suggesting that you make 02:05:681 (3) - reverse once less and stack a circle with clap on 02:07:284 (1) - 's head at 02:07:055 -

I guess this is what I've once thought about

SapphireGhost wrote:
Zero__wind wrote:
02:36:139 (1) - no, I really don't think this is still working like the previous ones. it's time to change the rhythm accordingly, plz try to rearrange the rhythm like The puush is too old now, but I see what you mean so I've tried to change it. Maybe it doesn't work, so I'll come back to it later.

yes pretty cool comprehending

And after some double check, I think it would be better if the very last slider in each diffs could be lengthened to 03:28:352 - . It's not for being safe but for I just think the vocal actually hasn't stopped yet at 03:28:295 - , see if you agree

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RaZoRgAmer23245 2015-08-26T01:04:25+00:00

[quote="Tagre"]Hi

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