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CBT Project [Catch the Beat Beginner Tutorial]

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Kingkevin30

alxnr wrote:

CBT or CTB? (thread title)
I forget to change the title, most of the Stuff was copy-pasted

and i ment [ (C)atch the Beat (B)eginner (T)utorial ]
Sey
You should be able to change the title when you edit the Opening Post.

Maybe people do not only search FAQ what CTB is about and how the fruits/jumps/streams/Hyperdashes/...(and so on) are working when you play them. I'd also like to see some ctb beatmap information in this thread. But you should stay VERY GENERAL in that because a lot of people in this forum already give advice about CTB mapping in own threads.

Here is a bit of general things I want to see here as well:

1. Which kinds of ctb beatmaps do exist and what do you have to take care when you produce them in your own mapset?
- Salad: Not any production of HDashes allowed.
- Rain: (Hyper-)dashes have to be compatible for each player.
- Overdose: The map and its (Hyper-)dashes need to be challenging and appealing for skillfully players
- Cup: Players should overcome the map without any dash.
- Platter: (Hyper-)dashes can be used rarely.

2. Are there Threads or similar which can give me more advice about modding?
Yes, there are a lot of Threads which can help you. Best would be if you take a look here: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/56. Most of the Posts are not focused on CTB but they are useful anyway, especially if you have question concerning modding a beatmap on your own pace.

3. I do not like the appearance of my fruits, can I maybe replace them with other images?
Yes you can replace the look of your fruits with another image. It has to be a png-file with a measure of 111x111 pixles. You have to save those fruits in your skin folder. (Filepath of osu => skins)
Just find a suitable picture and rename it into:
- "fruit-apple"
- "fruit-grapes"
- "fruit-orange"
- "fruit-pear"

(I am not sure about the banana.)

Well... Be a bit creative. You can ask thousand of questions about CTB. This is just an idea to make the OP fuller and more interesting for CTB Newbies. I think FAQ should not only JUST tell about Patterns and similar. There is so much more to experience and I also think that this Thread should help Newbies to make them more interested in CTB or even make them think about CTB beatmap mapping and/or modding.

I also have a question. What do you exactly mean with Application? When I have a bit more of free time I'd like to write some articles for you but first of all I need to know what you wanna say with that for example.
Topic Starter
Kingkevin30
First, thx for the advices.i will try to add most of this Stuff in the near Future. But i need much help, because of the leck of knowledge about Mapping and Modding.

Sey wrote:

Here is a bit of general things I want to see here as well:

1. Which kinds of ctb beatmaps do exist and what do you have to take care when you produce them in your own mapset?
- Salad: Not any production of HDashes allowed.
- Rain: (Hyper-)dashes have to be compatible for each player.
- Overdose: The map and its (Hyper-)dashes need to be challenging and appealing for skillfully players
- Cup: Players should overcome the map without any dash.
- Platter: (Hyper-)dashes can be used rarely.

Sey wrote:

2. Are there Threads or similar which can give me more advice about modding?
Yes, there are a lot of Threads which can help you. Best would be if you take a look here: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/56. Most of the Posts are not focused on CTB but they are useful anyway, especially if you have question concerning modding a beatmap on your own pace.
I will try to lookout for interesting Threads which can help Beginners to get into modding.

Sey wrote:

3. I do not like the appearance of my fruits, can I maybe replace them with other images?
Yes you can replace the look of your fruits with another image. It has to be a png-file with a measure of 111x111 pixles. You have to save those fruits in your skin folder. (Filepath of osu => skins)
Just find a suitable picture and rename it into:
- "fruit-apple"
- "fruit-grapes"
- "fruit-orange"
- "fruit-pear"

(I am not sure about the banana.)
i may link some Skinning Thread there and give general tips


Sey wrote:

I also have a question. What do you exactly mean with Application? When I have a bit more of free time I'd like to write some articles for you but first of all I need to know what you wanna say with that for example.
as most of the Thread is based on the TBT Project i copied this element, "Application" means to applicate the already gained skill in reading patterns and control different speeds
ZeroEightOne

Sey wrote:

You should be able to change the title when you edit the Opening Post.

Maybe people do not only search FAQ what CTB is about and how the fruits/jumps/streams/Hyperdashes/...(and so on) are working when you play them. I'd also like to see some ctb beatmap information in this thread. But you should stay VERY GENERAL in that because a lot of people in this forum already give advice about CTB mapping in own threads.

Here is a bit of general things I want to see here as well:

1. Which kinds of ctb beatmaps do exist and what do you have to take care when you produce them in your own mapset?
- Salad: Not any production of HDashes allowed.
- Rain: (Hyper-)dashes have to be compatible for each player.
- Overdose: The map and its (Hyper-)dashes need to be challenging and appealing for skillfully players
- Cup: Players should overcome the map without any dash.
- Platter: (Hyper-)dashes can be used rarely.

Should be : Cup -> Salad -> Platter -> Rain -> Overdose (Easy, Normal, Hard, Insane, Expert)

2. Are there Threads or similar which can give me more advice about modding?
Yes, there are a lot of Threads which can help you. Best would be if you take a look here: http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/56. Most of the Posts are not focused on CTB but they are useful anyway, especially if you have question concerning modding a beatmap on your own pace.

3. I do not like the appearance of my fruits, can I maybe replace them with other images?
Yes you can replace the look of your fruits with another image. It has to be a png-file with a measure of 111x111 pixles. You have to save those fruits in your skin folder. (Filepath of osu => skins)
Just find a suitable picture and rename it into:
- "fruit-apple"
- "fruit-grapes"
- "fruit-orange"
- "fruit-pear"

(I am not sure about the banana.) fruit-bananas

Well... Be a bit creative. You can ask thousand of questions about CTB. This is just an idea to make the OP fuller and more interesting for CTB Newbies. I think FAQ should not only JUST tell about Patterns and similar. There is so much more to experience and I also think that this Thread should help Newbies to make them more interested in CTB or even make them think about CTB beatmap mapping and/or modding.

I also have a question. What do you exactly mean with Application? When I have a bit more of free time I'd like to write some articles for you but first of all I need to know what you wanna say with that for example.

Kingkevin30 wrote:

Bananas (or Spinners, if you prefer that) ( each banana gives a score of 1,110 & it's not effected of the mods your plaing the map with)
No it's 1,100
Sey

Kingkevin30 wrote:

First, thx for the advices.i will try to add most of this Stuff in the near Future. But i need much help, because of the leck of knowledge about Mapping and Modding.
In the next days I'm gonna write you some pieces of information about that topic via PM. Unfortunately I am in the university during the week and have to manage my time properly. But don't worry, I'm gonna help you a bit in near future.
Topic Starter
Kingkevin30

Sey wrote:

Kingkevin30 wrote:

First, thx for the advices.i will try to add most of this Stuff in the near Future. But i need much help, because of the leck of knowledge about Mapping and Modding.
In the next days I'm gonna write you some pieces of information about that topic via PM. Unfortunately I am in the university during the week and have to manage my time properly. But don't worry, I'm gonna help you a bit in near future.
Wow very nice of you, i totally appreciate your help, take your time.
YunoFanatic
i hope this help for d others
eldnl
Also you can add maps ...
Topic Starter
Kingkevin30

eldnl wrote:

Also you can add maps ...
I have kind of a problem with that... i could randomly add [Easy,Normal,Hard,Insane] here but what I want to do, is to add some maps who are focused on special patterns or have higher AR etc.
eldnl

Kingkevin30 wrote:

eldnl wrote:

Also you can add maps ...
I have kind of a problem with that... i could randomly add [Easy,Normal,Hard,Insane] here but what I want to do, is to add some maps who are focused on special patterns or have higher AR etc.
Ask someone to help you with that, someone who plays enough to know a lot of beatmaps (:
Topic Starter
Kingkevin30

eldnl wrote:

Ask someone to help you with that, someone who plays enough to know a lot of beatmaps (:
what about you :) :) :)
eldnl

Kingkevin30 wrote:

eldnl wrote:

Ask someone to help you with that, someone who plays enough to know a lot of beatmaps (:
what about you :) :) :)
I don't know a lot of beatmaps u-u
I mean, actually ranked ones.
X-kushina_korra-X
Can I add more than 4 fruits? (Banana is not included) I want to make my own CTB skin n 4 is nor enough 4 me actually.... Can it be added? :P
Kurokami

X-kushina_korra-X wrote:

Can I add more than 4 fruits? (Banana is not included) I want to make my own CTB skin n 4 is nor enough 4 me actually.... Can it be added? :P
Nope. Only the ones will be used even if you add 3 more. Because they have exact name and osu! is using those. Altough you can add more in a folder as a little extra. Maybe someone will like them.
Riari
You can also dash with LMB as a default.

It would be nice to do a skinned fruit collection for people to look through, much like the ryuuta thread.

t/163298
t/195803

These would also be good links to add in if people miss out on them.

EDIT: Just noticed this was necro'd, RIP.
Nokeru
Good luck with this, otouto~
If I see something I could help you, I'll tell you <3
iiyo
You should also note that CTB relys on senses that you wouldn't use in standard play such as combo checking, sound and visual memorization, etc etc and you should also go more in depth about mods.

Edit: You should also note kai time since it has a big impact on HD play.

Thanks~

All you have to do is go left and right and catch the fruits, it can't be that hard right...? jk jk
Yukiteru Amano

Storm- wrote:

You should also note that CTB relys on senses that you wouldn't use in standard play such as combo checking, sound and visual memorization, etc etc and you should also go more in depth about mods.

Edit: You should also note kai time since it has a big impact on HD play.

Thanks~

All you have to do is go left and right and catch the fruits, it can't be that hard right...? jk jk

Well Said! +1
Topic Starter
Kingkevin30
i hope you realize that this Thread is already abonded for 1 year xD...maybe i will someday come back to this to go more in depth what you can do to improve yourself...the different kinds of abillity's you need to master Mod's AR,CS and stuff..but right now i don't really know on how i could explain these things in an easy to understand manner that will help you achieve these goals
Granger

Kingkevin30 wrote:

different kinds of abillity's you need to master Mod's AR,CS and stuff..but right now i don't really know on how i could explain these things in an easy to understand manner that will help you achieve these goals
Well, to put it in the words the people at the G&R forum use so often..

"Just play more."

And even there, they are right, these abilities come when you expose yourself to this stuff and just play more. The only issue is to make this sentence sound appealing and helpfull. xD
Topic Starter
Kingkevin30

Granger wrote:

Well, to put it in the words the people at the G&R forum use so often..

"Just play more."

And even there, they are right, these abilities come when you expose yourself to this stuff and just play more. The only issue is to make this sentence sound appealing and helpfull. xD
yeah, but the thing that can be helped about it is to expose them to this kind of stuff..but you have to give them some kind of start point, so they can see where they are standing right now, and which kind of maps fit the skill they have a lack of.
Topic Starter
Kingkevin30
I gave this year old dead thread a little overhaul, but im still not finished with it...it would be nice if some CTB Mappers and Modders could help me out and tell me what kinda information is still lacking (and answer the questions i stated in my post itself xD)
BoberOfDarkness
Add DaxMasterix as creator of sakuzyo - AXION [Red Light ~CtB~]
Zak
Under "Train your skills" you called the dash button the Hyperdash-button twice, you may want to fix that typo.

I also may or may not suggest some maps for the lists in the near future
JBHyperion
If you're still working on this, I recently compiled a guide on "how to mod CtB" that goes over the basics of how to use the editor, how to format your suggestions, what to look out for and how to improve it, etc. Might be worth including, the more publicity the better xD

t/449353
Bunnrei
nice self-advert jbh :')
JBHyperion

Chara wrote:

nice self-advert jbh :')
Hey I didn't write it for nothing (^:
Topic Starter
Kingkevin30

JBHyperion wrote:

Chara wrote:

nice self-advert jbh :')
Hey I didn't write it for nothing (^:
Thx ^^ forgot that i could add it~ Btw do you any other suggestions on what i could add? and maybe something for the "Community Training Suggestions"
i finally want to put something inside those Boxes, lol
Topic Starter
Kingkevin30
edit: added the newly amanded Ranking Criteria to the Mapping Section (hope i put in the right ones in, tell me if i made any mistakes)
Tidus420
Kann mir nicht vorstellen dass man die ersten cup maps ohne diesen Boost auf SS spielen kann mit is viel einfacher :P
WarXdoud
Thanks for the tutorial, i don't have many beatmaps to train every pattern. Now, i'll train CtB :) (sorry, i don't speak a lot English so i didn't understand everything in the tutorial :x)
Kimitakari
Somebody pin this
claudio rolna
thanks to this thread, Im pretty good at ctb now 2013 and 2014 i was the worst at ctb
now in 2016 i think im pretty good
FPGG
Great guide ty :3
Mamat
I think this can be Bloody-Fruit in the Hell.
Ew4n -II-
I hope i can improve with this.
StevAna
I think the beatmaps section should be updated since some of them have been deleted.
Mamat
New link for Galaxy Collapse
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/521900
LordAverage
Old thread but thank you it's helped me stay motivated to learn this mode. I'm upto early-mid "hard patterns&speed" section and a few of the maps are a huge pain but i'm improving. (as well as that HP8 map in the previous section being crazy).
KuriKuri-Ame
Great guide, thanks!!
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