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eldnl
Big Black has a high bpm but it is mapped on 180bpm technically, it only needs 360 for the fast slider repeats ...
Mismagius

eldnl wrote:

Big Black has a high bpm but it is mapped on 180bpm technically, it only needs 360 for the fast slider repeats ...
it's mapped on 720.
silmarilen
its ranked on 360.3 bpm
Mismagius
got forced to change because main menu lagged people with bad PCs back then
eldnl

Blue Dragon wrote:

got forced to change because main menu lagged people with bad PCs back then
and you know that it wasn't necessary, right?
Mismagius

eldnl wrote:

Blue Dragon wrote:

got forced to change because main menu lagged people with bad PCs back then
and you know that it wasn't necessary, right?
Renard says it's 720BPM, I simply followed the retarded-speedcore-BPM rule.

I don't think you're in the right of saying what is right and what isn't, though.
theowest
Doubled BPMs doesn't count. eldnl's post would have been enough, why even bring that discussion up.

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This map is pretty fast:
https://osu.ppy.sh/b/107875
Long 270 bpm streams.

I'd love to see what people have to share in here.
silmarilen
dash hopes isnt ranked
and well scarlet rose is 320 bpm
Aqo
If you go by "how it plays" then Phase 1 is the highest bpm ranked map being 310bpm.
BrokenArrow
Aqo posted, /thread
Tanzklaue
fastest timingsection with multiplied BPM: woah, okay, I forgot this map, I thought it was Shotgun Symphony but it turns out to be

Nico Nico Douga - BARUSA of MIKOSU at 720 BPM

fastest timingsection that isn't multiplied:

Swan Lake Orchestra - Hakuchou no Mizuumi at 300 BPM

though I don't know all ranked songs, so there could be faster songs.

fastest songs (common BPM) are probably The Quick Brown Fox - The Big Black for multiplied BPM at 360 BPM and Syrsa - Mad Machine for non-multiplied BPM at 270 BPM.
roufou
Koibumi2000 beats 720 BPM with a really short section at 800 BPM (which is doubled two times)
Aqo

Aqo wrote:

Phase 1 is the highest bpm ranked map being 310bpm.

Tanzklaue wrote:

fastest timingsection that isn't multiplied:
Swan Lake Orchestra - Hakuchou no Mizuumi at 300 BPM
math!?

a <> b
silmarilen

Tanzklaue wrote:

that isn't multiplied
Aqo

silmarilen wrote:

Tanzklaue wrote:

that isn't multiplied
You either go by "what bpm the map says" or "what bpm the map plays like".

pick one.

If we ignore shitmaps like barusa, the highest "bpm that a map says" is big black with 360.something
if you go by "what bpm the map plays like", phase 1 plays like 310bpm
silmarilen
scarlet rose still beats phase 1 then by 10bpm
Aqo
You're right.
Purple
The only real super-high bpm maps I can think of are Pluto and Mad Machine. Theres also Holy Orders and maybe a few others I can't think of ATM.

Scarlet Rose and Phase 1 play more like spaced 155/160bpm.. if we go by those examples then why not say The Big Black, which plays like a spaced 180bpm?
eldnl

Purple wrote:

The only real super-high bpm maps I can think of are Pluto and Mad Machine. Theres also Holy Orders and maybe a few others I can't think of ATM.

Scarlet Rose and Phase 1 play more like spaced 155/160bpm.. if we go by those examples then why not say The Big Black, which plays like a spaced 180bpm?
I Agree!
buny
pluto wat
Aqo

Purple wrote:

Scarlet Rose and Phase 1 play more like spaced 155/160bpm.. if we go by those examples then why not say The Big Black, which plays like a spaced 180bpm?
The reason I didn't mention Scarlet Rose originally is because it really is possible to read and play the map like spaced 160bpm but this is impossible to do with Phase 1, you have to play [SHD] like 310bpm if you want to get anywhere on it.
Mismagius
I'm pretty sure Big Black does not play to 180BPM, the song doesn't have a 180BPM beat, lol.
Comparing it to Scarlet Rose is just dumb.
Purple

Blue Dragon wrote:

I'm pretty sure Big Black does not play to 180BPM, the song doesn't have a 180BPM beat, lol.
Comparing it to Scarlet Rose is just dumb.
"Plays to" and "plays like" are different. Gameplay wise I have no problem visualizing Phase 1, Scarlet Rose, and The Big Black as spaced 155, 160 and 180 bpm maps respectively, even if Aqo thinks that Phase 1 is a legit 310 bpm map even though it doesn't have any huge 1/4 jump or 1/8 stream. In fact I'd go ahead and give The Big Black a 300+bpm map title, if only because of some awkward patterns in it... but not the other 2.
winber1

Aqo wrote:

Purple wrote:

Scarlet Rose and Phase 1 play more like spaced 155/160bpm.. if we go by those examples then why not say The Big Black, which plays like a spaced 180bpm?
The reason I didn't mention Scarlet Rose originally is because it really is possible to read and play the map like spaced 160bpm but this is impossible to do with Phase 1, you have to play [SHD] like 310bpm if you want to get anywhere on it.
...no you don't?

I do a lot worse single tapping them then alternating. I haven't tried playing it recently, but I could probably near rank on it, if not rank on it, with alternating with enough time spent playing it.
Aqo

winber1 wrote:

...no you don't?

I do a lot worse single tapping them then alternating. I haven't tried playing it recently, but I could probably near rank on it, if not rank on it, with alternating with enough time spent playing it.
...doing better with alternating means you're playing it like a spaced 160bpm map.
winber1
u just said this was impossible to do with Phase 1, and thus it must be 310BPM, when really, it's not...
Kanye West

Purple wrote:

The only real super-high bpm maps I can think of are Pluto and Mad Machine. Theres also Holy Orders and maybe a few others I can't think of ATM.

Scarlet Rose and Phase 1 play more like spaced 155/160bpm.. if we go by those examples then why not say The Big Black, which plays like a spaced 180bpm?
wat

pluto is slower than every other map here
Aqo

winber1 wrote:

u just said this was impossible to do with Phase 1, and thus it must be 310BPM, when really, it's not...
Personally I alternate on Phase 1 but I alternate on everything, people who can singletap it have a much easier time on it like that. The map is even designed with singletap and with alternating segments that are clearly distinct by the note spacing style.
Purple

Aqo wrote:

Personally I alternate on Phase 1 but I alternate on everything, people who can singletap it have a much easier time on it like that. The map is even designed with singletap and with alternating segments that are clearly distinct by the note spacing style.
But the first 2 ranks on that map are alternaters
Aqo

Purple wrote:

But the first 2 ranks on that map are alternaters
Every map that is possible to play with singletap is possible to play with alternating.

Some maps however play better with alternating than with singletap, such as Scarlet Rose (at least val's version).
phoenny

Aqo wrote:

Purple wrote:

But the first 2 ranks on that map are alternaters
Every map that is possible to play with singletap is possible to play with alternating.

Some maps however play better with alternating than with singletap, such as Scarlet Rose (at least val's version).
havent read much of the thread, but is Pure singetapping on scarlet rose even possible ô_ô?
buny
^
easily

i can hardly tap 130bpm and i can do scarlet rose single tap
Loves
I think 240 bpm is probably the max any player can stream comfortably.
Almost

Aqo wrote:

Purple wrote:

But the first 2 ranks on that map are alternaters
Every map that is possible to play with singletap is possible to play with alternating.

Some maps however play better with alternating than with singletap, such as Scarlet Rose (at least val's version).
You forget to mention the fact that alternating puts a lot less stress on your arm/hand than single tapping which is why most players tend to alternate things that go into the point where single tapping becomes uncomfortable.
phoenny
i DONT get how some one can singletap only.. especially on Scarlet Rose with such speed ._. i cant even pass the map with Alternating T.T well i play like 3 months but still that crazy. xD
she_old

buny wrote:

^
easily

i can hardly tap 130bpm and i can do scarlet rose single tap
u pro almagest nonstop singletap woman-pleaser pls
Almost

phoenny1337 wrote:

i DONT get how some one can singletap only.. especially on Scarlet Rose with such speed ._. i cant even pass the map with Alternating T.T well i play like 3 months but still that crazy. xD
You've only played 3 months, you shouldn't expect to be at the physicals limits of the majority of players. Just spend more time training single tapping if you really want to get better at it (though alternating everything is fine also) and you should see some results in no time. Seriously, single tapping speed is probably the easiest thing to improve on...
Purple

phoenny1337 wrote:

i DONT get how some one can singletap only.. especially on Scarlet Rose with such speed ._. i cant even pass the map with Alternating T.T well i play like 3 months but still that crazy. xD
People talk about singletapping ridiculous BPMs all the damn time in these forums; and its usually random people you've never heard of (i.e. not Niko rrtyui WW or cookiezi). Its like "oh yeah i can single tap 440 BPM.. ez pz"... but only for 2 seconds on OD 5 maps and by uncontrollably vibrating their fap arm.
buny

she wrote:

buny wrote:

^
easily

i can hardly tap 130bpm and i can do scarlet rose single tap
u pro almagest nonstop singletap woman-pleaser pls
vibrate not single tap tho

Purple wrote:

phoenny1337 wrote:

i DONT get how some one can singletap only.. especially on Scarlet Rose with such speed ._. i cant even pass the map with Alternating T.T well i play like 3 months but still that crazy. xD
People talk about singletapping ridiculous BPMs all the damn time in these forums; and its usually random people you've never heard of (i.e. not Niko rrtyui WW or cookiezi). Its like "oh yeah i can single tap 440 BPM.. ez pz"... but only for 2 seconds on OD 5 maps and by uncontrollably vibrating their fap arm.
but scarlet rose is only 160bpm, and then again there are only 2-3 beats a time that you could easily burst
Bweh

Lily-Kun wrote:

I think 240 bpm is probably the max any player can stream comfortably.
I've seen Rucker singletap his way completely through No, 39 (technically vibrating but still, that's one finger plowing through notes)

I've seen Hika singletap Scarlet Rose (and fail at the end, but still)
NixXSkate

Brian OA wrote:

I've seen Rucker singletap his way completely through No, 39 (technically vibrating but still, that's one finger plowing through notes)
that doesn't sound like vibrating to me (Rucker can singletap 290+)...

but anyway i'd say big black is the highest bpm, just not the highest bpm stream
Almost

Brian OA wrote:

Lily-Kun wrote:

I think 240 bpm is probably the max any player can stream comfortably.
I've seen Rucker singletap his way completely through No, 39 (technically vibrating but still, that's one finger plowing through notes)

I've seen Hika singletap Scarlet Rose (and fail at the end, but still)
Lily-Kun was talking about streaming not single tapping. -.-
winber1
Can't r-s stream comfortably at like 270? and I'm quite sure there a few others who can too.

give me your powers plz.
Mismagius
I can stream 250 confortably, lol
Aqo

Blue Dragon wrote:

I can stream 250 confortably, lol
tapx doesn't count go away DD:
winber1
single tap 250bpm streams all the way
Almost

winber1 wrote:

single tap 250bpm streams all the way
If you can't single tap 270bpm streams like TKiller you should just quit...
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