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What pp scores should you be achieving at what rank?

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W_Phantom
Im starting to get lost on what pp scores I should be roughly aiming for at what rank because at one point I was rank 150k ish and I thought I was falling behind in skill because I didn’t have a 200pp play
Mentee
Hey there!

I personally believe that whatever rank bracket you may be in, there's will still be room for improvement/goals to be set. I've seen plenty of players that are in 100k without having their first 200PP play yet, so you are not falling behind.

If someone were to fall behind, I'm sure they'll rise up when practice and dedication comes into play.

I took a peak on your profile and saw that you got your first 200PP play, congratulations on that my guy!
karlabos
Since rank is based on pp and pp is based on top play, isn't that like... Something that adjusts itself on its own?
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W_Phantom

Videos wrote:

Hey there!

I personally believe that whatever rank bracket you may be in, there's will still be room for improvement/goals to be set. I've seen plenty of players that are in 100k without having their first 200PP play yet, so you are not falling behind.

If someone were to fall behind, I'm sure they'll rise up when practice and dedication comes into play.

I took a peak on your profile and saw that you got your first 200PP play, congratulations on that my guy!
Thanks man 200pp was a hard task considering all the chokes and close calls
Haengsyo
There really is no set boundary. I know plenty of 5 digits who still haven’t set a 300pp play yet with 16 days of play time(me) and some who have 400pp plays with only 8 days of playtime while being a 5 digit. Everyone improves at their own pace.
Rusty af
There isn't really a set amount of pp you should be getting per play at a certain rank. It varies per person. You'll get ranks anyway if you get higher pp plays so
Nilocnus

karlabos wrote:

Since rank is based on pp and pp is based on top play, isn't that like... Something that adjusts itself on its own?
Yes, but it doesn't make up the whole story. Someone with a 240pp play as their top play could be rank 180,000 while someone with a 180pp play as their top play could be rank 100,000. It depends on how consistent they have their top plays at. If the 180pp person consistently has their top plays consist of 150-180, then it'll beat the person with like a singular 240 and a singular 180, singular 170, singular 150, etc...
Rusty af
*hidamari no uta as top play incoming* (I don't)
Nilocnus

AlphaCent4260 wrote:

*hidamari no uta as top play incoming* (I don't)
It's legitimately difficult to get a good play on that
DeletedUser_9419541
At my rank, 20k players should be able to have 2-5 300pp plays.

to add to this, there is actually pp inflation because of the farm maps released since end of 2016 - now.

So literally a 5 digit can be better than a 4 digit.
Snapy

Mentee wrote:

Hey there!

I personally believe that whatever rank bracket you may be in, there's will still be room for improvement/goals to be set. I've seen plenty of players that are in 100k without having their first 200PP play yet, so you are not falling behind.

If someone were to fall behind, I'm sure they'll rise up when practice and dedication comes into play.

I took a peak on your profile and saw that you got your first 200PP play, congratulations on that my guy!
He higher ranked than u now :)
Naiad
Nice necropost but Im gonna use this as an opportunity to complain about the fact that I'm well on my way to being the highest ranked player without a 600.
_mp1506
The thing is not to get fixated on a certain top pp play. I had said before in another thread that there are variables including SR which contributes to final pp gain. SR itself is determined based on the subjective view of the system which was coded on top of some algorithm which we don't know the formula. Which means, SR rewarded is based on how hard the system thinks the map is. It's the system, not player.

Take this guy for an example: users/3174184/taiko (shinchikuhome)
He was 1kpp below the former top rank (manji). His top play is 1200pp whilst manji had 1300pp top play.

What we know is 350 bpm long stream is hideously crackin hard. shinchikuhome does 420 bpm maps on daily basis (can even spam short streams on 450 bpm and I've seen it myself), and the guy casually longstreams 350. Maybe that's kinda normal to be a little bit better than the other top players in that regard.

What we don't know is he can 30 second longstream 375 bpm lul. But the system didn't reward his unknown skill because of the current SR formula and maps availability. There also are too many maps in which only he DTed ending up in leaderboard top plays. Whilst manji is actually a mod master, only applerss can hope to compete with shinchikuhome's raw power. I tell you he is even considered quite inhuman even among most top players. Frequently did they say 'only home can do this'.

So just hone yourself. PP is just a number, and your number should be considered to having a range instead of an exact number. You're 6,4kpp, for some skillsets it might be 7k, for another it might be 6k, and it also might be higher and lower in case you're a glass cannon. Just play and enjoy the track.

Have fun.
Voidedosu
pp and rank don't really correlate. SR and rank should correlate to some extent (i.e in terms of skill/improvement, anyone above 500K should not be playing 4*+ maps, period) but not as much as you think.
FrostyF
Not so fun fact.

As of July 9th, 2024, rank 99,999 (5 digit) requires 4773pp. If all 100 of your top plays were the same then pp play required to get to 5 digit would be 240.07.

It is officially impossible to become a 5 digit in osu!std without setting a score greater than or equal to 240pp.
anaxii
It doesn't really make sense to achieve a certain amount of pp at one specific rank. Just focus on your actual skill before focusing on gaining ranks
Voidedosu

FrostyF wrote:

Not so fun fact.

As of July 9th, 2024, rank 99,999 (5 digit) requires 4773pp. If all 100 of your top plays were the same then pp play required to get to 5 digit would be 240.07.

It is officially impossible to become a 5 digit in osu!std without setting a score greater than or equal to 240pp.
Good news for me: There are a fair amount of 4* 200pp+ NM scores
Bad news for me: few if any are above 220pp (Glory days is one of the highest I know of at I think 223pp).
Slightly better news: If I make them hd that'll add on 15-20pp. Maybe not enough for 240 but still
bad news: This means I'll have to bust out hrhd or hddt. Neither sound fun (even if I shorten them to less than 2 minutes and pick the farmiest I can)
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