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Splitting Ranking Criteria pages into 2 new ones

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[Dellirium]
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[Dellirium]
Here's the thing: since we have 4 different game modes now, it's getting complicated to understand which rule belongs to any game mode and which one only to Standard. So I splitted [[Ranking Criteria]] into [[Ranking Criteria]] and [[Standard Ranking Criteria]].
I think no one will tell that I should have asked first or that it was a stupid idea.

What do I want from this topic?
1. Check splitted rules, maybe I did something inaccurate.
2. I don't know where to place some rules. For example,

A mapset cannot have a single Taiko difficulty if you decide to include Taiko in your map, make sure you have at least 2 Taiko mode difficulties and that one of them is of an easier difficulty level if it doesn't have an osu! standard Easy level difficulty.
Move to TRC?

A maximum of three slider velocities should be used (including 1x).
Does this mean Standard, Taiko and osu!mania or not?
Rei Hakurei
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Rei Hakurei

[Dellirium] wrote:

What do I want from this topic?
1. Check splitted rules, maybe I did something inaccurate.
2. I don't know where to place some rules. For example,

A maximum of three slider velocities should be used (including 1x).
Does this mean Standard, Taiko and osu!mania or not? refers to standard only, since Taiko allowed to give incremental speed changes and osu!mania allowed to decorate the map
OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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OnosakiHito
Sometimes this rule still effect us Taiko mappers, because some BATs think it counts for Taiko, too.
There are even some more standart rules which count for Taiko, but which makes us Taiko Mapper the life unreasonable harder.
Without more slider changes we have overlapping problems, and having no x0.25 gives us just less possibilitys to map. Just two examples.

So I would be pleased to see such change of the rules in this way.
Sakura
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Sakura
They are already split what are you talking about:

OnosakiHito
osu!taiko Paragon
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OnosakiHito
I think he didn't ment it in this way. It's about how the standart rules effect the other game mods.
Sakura
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Sakura

OnosakiHito wrote:

I think he didn't ment it in this way. It's about how the standart rules effect the other game mods.
Well Standard rules are kinda like the global rules, most of them anyways.

It's better than typing the same thing 4 times.

Edit: Oh jeesh, please dont start editing stuff yet, wait for a BAT or peppy first
mm201
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mm201
Removing standard rules from other modes needs to be discussed on a per-case basis.
[Dellirium]
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[Dellirium]

Sakura wrote:

OnosakiHito wrote:

Well Standard rules are kinda like the global rules, most of them anyways.
Every rule about hit notes and spinners won't affect every game mode, then why we should read them?
The main rule says "no 2 hitobjects on the same tick", but what about osu!mania?
Sakura
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Sakura
We can look into that whenever osu!mania becomes rankable.
[Dellirium]
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[Dellirium]

I think I solved this.
Sakura
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Sakura
Although i agree, please remember this

mm201 wrote:

Removing standard rules from other modes needs to be discussed on a per-case basis.
Loctav
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Loctav

Sakura wrote:

We can look into that whenever osu!mania becomes rankable.
Osu!mania is rankable as much as Taiko was rankable without having an explicit ranking criteria.
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito
^@: Hm, if it was explicit or not is another question, but we had allready "rules" and guidelines before the official one got approved.
[Dellirium]
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[Dellirium]

Loctav wrote:

Osu!mania is rankable as much as Taiko was rankable without having an explicit ranking criteria.
Really? AS I know it's not because rules and guidelines are not finished yet.
Entozer
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Entozer
From what I know, Taiko was rankable before even without a stated guideline/ranking criteria. I'm guessing it goes the same for osu!mania, so technically it can be rankable now. And from what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, woc said osu!mania mapsets are rankable.

And I'm just waiting for modders to my I like you, I love you map. mods are greatly appreciated
[Dellirium]
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[Dellirium]

Entozer wrote:

From what I know, Taiko was rankable before even without a stated guideline/ranking criteria. I'm guessing it goes the same for osu!mania, so technically it can be rankable now. And from what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, woc said osu!mania mapsets are rankable.
Technically, yes, but peppy told not to bubble or rank o!m for now (as I know)
Okay, I think I should ask that to be sure.
s ranker disc
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s ranker disc
wht bwt a different game mode where it has 1/3 of each game mode osu ctb osu mania n that where u could play all 4 modes as 1 with 4 people on mp like rockband but to make osu cooler that would make the rank different
Sakura
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Sakura

shaddisc wrote:

wht bwt a different game mode where it has 1/3 of each game mode osu ctb osu mania n that where u could play all 4 modes as 1 with 4 people on mp like rockband but to make osu cooler that would make the rank different
What
OnosakiHito
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OnosakiHito

Entozer wrote:

From what I know, Taiko was rankable before even without a stated guideline/ranking criteria. I'm guessing it goes the same for osu!mania, so technically it can be rankable now. And from what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, woc said osu!mania mapsets are rankable.

OnosakiHito wrote:

^@: Hm, if it was explicit or not is another question, but we had allready "rules" and guidelines before the official one got approved.

Sakura wrote:

shaddisc wrote:

wht bwt a different game mode where it has 1/3 of each game mode osu ctb osu mania n that where u could play all 4 modes as 1 with 4 people on mp like rockband but to make osu cooler that would make the rank different
What
[Luanny]
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[Luanny]

shaddisc wrote:

wht bwt a different game mode where it has 1/3 of each game mode osu ctb osu mania n that where u could play all 4 modes as 1 with 4 people on mp like rockband but to make osu cooler that would make the rank different
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Drafura
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Drafura

[Dellirium] wrote:

Entozer wrote:

From what I know, Taiko was rankable before even without a stated guideline/ranking criteria. I'm guessing it goes the same for osu!mania, so technically it can be rankable now. And from what I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, woc said osu!mania mapsets are rankable.
Technically, yes, but peppy told not to bubble or rank o!m for now (as I know)
Okay, I think I should ask that to be sure.

LKs wrote:

Mania only mapsets are rankable already.(said by woc2006)
^ Source

[Luanny] wrote:

shaddisc wrote:

wht bwt a different game mode where it has 1/3 of each game mode osu ctb osu mania n that where u could play all 4 modes as 1 with 4 people on mp like rockband but to make osu cooler that would make the rank different
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How do you understand this guy ?
Sakura
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Sakura
As far as i know, this was already done by Delli so there's no need to keep this thread around anyways, if inconsistencies are found then we can fix them.
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