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Yiruma & Skullee - River Flows In You (A Love Note)

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Topic Starter
h3k1ru
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Saturday, June 29, 2013 at 3:19:57 PM

Artist: Yiruma & Skullee
Title: River Flows In You (A Love Note)
Tags: piano dubstep cryo[iceeicee] aleks719 saten saten-san
BPM: 140
Filesize: 9380kb
Play Time: 02:20
Difficulties Available:
  1. Aleks' Note (4.26 stars, 213 notes)
  2. cRyo's Note (4.6 stars, 291 notes)
  3. Love Note (4.95 stars, 409 notes)
  4. Saten's Note (2.68 stars, 161 notes)
Download: Yiruma & Skullee - River Flows In You (A Love Note)
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cRyo[iceeicee]
balda (ღ˘˘ღ) ♥
Aleks719
cRk1 and h3yo :U
OnosakiHito
Hey h3k1ru, a friend of yours asked me to map a Taiko for you.
I will see if I'm going to make one, but don't wait for me since I'm not sure.

Else I wish you good luck.
Topic Starter
h3k1ru
uh
787B
Woof~
From my Modding Queue

General
I won't add much stuff here, the people that made guest diffs here are high-quality mappers.
Those face changings <3

Saten's Note
Nothing much to add here, pretty solid diff.
00:08:576 (3) - Move a bit more to the left so it won't overlap with 00:09:862 (1) - ?
01:18:005 (3) - Well, are you fine with the overlap with 01:18:862 (1)

Alek's Note
00:08:576 (3) - Remove whistle at the end of slider.
00:09:433 (4) - Remove whistle at the end and add on the beginning? Will keep them consistent imo.
01:22:290 - Forgot to add break/spin here?

cRyo's Note
Couldn't find nothing wrong here.

Love Note
00:54:433 (4) - Move to x:236 y:244 to match with previous circles?
02:07:933 (5) - Fix spacing?

Nice mapset, have my star:
Good luck!
Topic Starter
h3k1ru

Wolf wrote:

Love Note
00:54:433 (4) - Move to x:236 y:244 to match with previous circles? no.. made it looks like a small arc on pattern purpose
02:07:933 (5) - Fix spacing? alright, moved a bit more far instead
thx for mod and star Wolf
creampuff
The mapset's very nice. And so is the SB.

*Shoots star*
power007
Storyboard GOD here.
Topic Starter
h3k1ru
thx for star Sakuko and for play power007
69653863
Mod request from our queue ヽ( ・∀・)ノ
Guide
Red is unrankable and must be fixed.
Pink is you should apply this to any similar notes/parts/patterns/whatever it was stated on it.
Mods with question marks (?) are only suggestion/opinion. You're free to choose whether you're going to apply it or not.

General
  1. 01:22:290 - 01:25:290 - Instead of leaving the title text utilization being useless, I suggest you to remove the title from SB here and utilize the title text instead. If you do, call the BATs about this.
Saten's Note
  1. Why don't you utilize the custom normal-hitwhistle =A= your map now sounds rather empty without it
  2. 00:23:576 (1) - Remove whistle from slider start to follow music?
  3. 00:25:290 (1) - Same here but on the slider end instead?
  4. 00:38:576 (3) - Whistle here?
  5. 00:39:005 (1) - Remove whistle on end?
  6. 01:15:862 (2) - Use soft-sampleset here instead of normal?
  7. 01:17:576 (2) - ^
  8. 01:18:005 (3,1) - Overlap =A=
  9. 01:22:290 (1) - Remove this slider and add a circle here instead, also to follow consistency among the other diffs.
  10. 01:37:505 - A note here won't be bad.
  11. 02:17:147 (1) - Not "spiral" enough
Aleks' Note
  1. Is this Normal or Hard?
  2. Oh god, so much overused soft-hitwhistle here. why
  3. 00:14:362 (2) - Remove whistle on end
  4. 00:17:576 (2) - Remove whistle on start
  5. 00:25:290 (2) - Remove whistle on end
  6. 00:27:433 (1) - ^
  7. 00:33:272 (2) - I'm not sure about this :S
  8. 00:42:005 (1) - Remove whistle on end
  9. 00:46:719 (5) - Remove whistle
  10. 00:47:362 (2) - Remove whistle
  11. 00:48:005 (1,1) - Remove whistle on both reverse
  12. 00:52:719 (2) - Remove whistle on start
  13. 00:53:576 (3) - Remove whistle
  14. Too much overuses. I'll leave the rest to you but I told you, overused hitsound is not good and breaks song flow
  15. 01:08:576 (1,2,3,4,5) - confusing
cRyo's Note
  1. 00:16:505 (6) - Remove whistle from start?
  2. 00:17:576 (2,4) - Remove whistle?
  3. 00:21:647 (2,3) - Unstack will be cooler.
  4. 00:51:433 (1) - Remove whistle?
  5. 00:53:576 (2) - ^
  6. 02:12:005 (3) - I'm not sure about the shape... :S
Love Note
Nothing noticeable.

Nice song, nice SB. Good luck h3k1
senaya
ты же знаешь, что я не умею модить. лучше бы кудосов попросил накидать :<

[Saten]
00:33:005 (2) - add circle here and make slider start at 00:33:433 - ?
00:44:576 (3) - remove last repeat, add 2 circles instead. smth like this maybe http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/559927
same goes to almost every other long slider with 2 repeats. too boring even for an easy diff imo
01:45:005 (1) - same as with 00:33:005 (2) - above OR even shorter, like 1/1
01:51:005 (3) - this one too. if you're following the noise, you should start earlier. otherwise there is no point to start slider here.
02:17:147 (1) - why no add a repeating slider or circles instead of a repeat here? beats are too solid to overlook them >_>

[Aleks]
00:57:647 (3) - sounds pretty bad. suggest splitting it into several objects
01:01:719 (3) - whistles on both head and tail aren't good because of the length of custom hitsound. at least for me.
same goes to most of the places using custom whistles in 1/1 here
01:34:505 (3) - i'd rather split this in several notes instead. why you make it so complicated? D:
01:55:932 (3) - as before

[cRyo]
music-wise it was all ok, but DEM SLIDER SHAPES D:
i don't see why would someone shape sliders like that unless you were trying to 'spell' something in your 'note' and i failed to see it.
01:01:719 (5) - 01:03:433 (5) - 01:05:147 (3) - 01:10:290 (5) - 01:17:147 (5) - i'm talking about sliders like these.

[Love]
you have some questionably-shaped sliders too but not as heavy as cRyo's.
also, would be cool if part till 00:40:290 - could get a lower AR but sadly that's impossible :<

всё.
cRyo[iceeicee]
inverness

inverness wrote:

cRyo's Note
  1. 00:16:505 (6) - Remove whistle from start?
  2. 00:17:576 (2,4) - Remove whistle?
  3. 00:21:647 (2,3) - Unstack will be cooler. i think stack fits very good here !
  4. 00:51:433 (1) - Remove whistle?
  5. 00:53:576 (2) - ^
  6. 02:12:005 (3) - I'm not sure about the shape... :S changed shape little bit ^^
    all whistles sounds nice for me, it feels empty for me if i remove any of ur suggestion <:
senaya

senaya wrote:

[cRyo]
music-wise it was all ok, but DEM SLIDER SHAPES D: КРИВУЛИИИИИИИИИИИИИ (ノ^^)ノ
i don't see why would someone shape sliders like that unless you were trying to 'spell' something in your 'note' and i failed to see it.
01:01:719 (5) - 01:03:433 (5) - 01:05:147 (3) - 01:10:290 (5) - 01:17:147 (5) - i'm talking about sliders like these.
Thx for mods !
http://puu.sh/1KOj0
Koyocik
Nice map, fav and double star :)
Topic Starter
h3k1ru

inverness wrote:

  1. 01:22:290 - 01:25:290 - Instead of leaving the title text utilization being useless, I suggest you to remove the title from SB here and utilize the title text instead. If you do, call the BATs about this.
really nice idea, i will think about it

senaya wrote:

ты же знаешь, что я не умею модить. лучше бы кудосов попросил накидать :< ты мне ето каждую мапу говоришь ==

[Love]
you have some questionably-shaped sliders too but not as heavy as cRyo's. cryo sliders is.. cuuuute
also, would be cool if part till 00:40:290 - could get a lower AR but sadly that's impossible :< yeah..
thx for mod inverness and senaya ></

also thx for stars k0yot :3
zweiii
from my queue~
I can't find something to mod in first three diff
[Love Note]
00:01:719 (5) - NC 00:01:719 (5,1,2,3) - I think this four shuold be in one group
maybe your can place them like this four 00:08:576 (1,2,3,4)
00:03:005 (3) - make the volume low at this note
00:09:862 (4) - ↑
00:17:576 (1,2,3) - I think this would be better
00:17:147 to 00:27:433 maybe change the volume to 15%?
00:20:576 (3) - the shape are strange maybe change it to this?

00:34:290 to 00:40:290 maybe change the volume to 15%?
00:40:290 to 00:46:719 let the volume change from 15%
00:52:076 (1) - why NC here? I think NC here should be better 00:52:290 (2) It's four in a group
maybe you can place them like this:
01:32:147 to 01:39:112 volume down to 15%
01:35:576 (1) - NC here 01:36:005
01:35:147 (3,4,1,2) - this four should be consistent
01:36:862 (5,6,1,2) - ↑
01:43:290 (1,2,1) - add inherit timing points to low down the volume little by little.
01:43:719
19%
01:44:147
18%
01:44:576
16%
01:45:005
15%
01:45:219 to 01:47:576 volume down to 18%
01:46:719 (1) - NC here 01:47:594 or here 01:46:290
01:46:290 (4,1,2) - this three should be consistent
01:47:576 volume start change at 20%

nice song~ hope you can rank it.
Topic Starter
h3k1ru

zweiii wrote:

[Love Note]
00:01:719 (5) - NC 00:01:719 (5,1,2,3) - I think this four shuold be in one group yes
maybe your can place them like this four 00:08:576 (1,2,3,4) done
00:03:005 (3) - make the volume low at this note 16%
00:09:862 (4) - ↑ 16%
00:17:576 (1,2,3) - I think this would be better i know i need remap this moment.. i will, when get some inspiration
00:17:147 to 00:27:433 maybe change the volume to 15%? im not sure..
00:20:576 (3) - the shape are strange maybe change it to this? will be remapped

00:34:290 to 00:40:290 maybe change the volume to 15%? actually i think 15% is too low for me here
00:40:290 to 00:46:719 let the volume change from 15% ^
00:52:076 (1) - why NC here? I think NC here should be better 00:52:290 (2) It's four in a group
maybe you can place them like this: yes, didnt like this moment from start, remapped
01:32:147 to 01:39:112 volume down to 15% ^
01:35:576 (1) - NC here 01:36:005 nope, nc is fine here
01:35:147 (3,4,1,2) - this four should be consistent looks like we have different thoughts about this pattern
01:36:862 (5,6,1,2) - ↑ ^
01:43:290 (1,2,1) - add inherit timing points to low down the volume little by little. okay
01:43:719
19% ^
01:44:147
18% ^
01:44:576
16% 17%
01:45:005
15% 16%
01:45:219 to 01:47:576 volume down to 18% okay
01:46:719 (1) - NC here 01:47:594 or here 01:46:290 nope, this combo is fine
01:46:290 (4,1,2) - this three should be consistent why? different pattern - different combo..
01:47:576 volume start change at 20% yup, sounds better
thx for mod zweiii

updated
Lally
star >u<)/ <3
Topic Starter
h3k1ru
thx for star Lally <3
alacat
Hi:3 As requested =3=

[Saten's Note]
  1. Approach Rate - 1 . so fast ><
  2. 00:18:005 (3) - try this ? Fix this one, so it prevents the player is going to misread.
    http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/576475
  3. 00:21:647 (1) - add whistle to the repeat of the slider , remove it to the head.
    same as here.00:20:147 (1) - , 00:23:576 (1) -
  4. 00:44:576 (3) - add new combo . you put some repeats here.
  5. 00:48:005 (2) - touch the HP bar >< try to move down here.
    http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/576493
  6. 00:51:433 (3) - same as above.00:44:576 (3) -
  7. 00:54:862 (1) - try to make curve slider ? looks good imo :3
  8. 01:18:005 (3) - hmm... you should turn to the right a little more, the flow is good.
    http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/576633
  9. 01:33:647 (3) - same as above.00:21:647 (1) -
  10. 02:01:719 (4,5) - try to put a little bit better this blanket.
[Aleks' Note]
  1. 00:01:719 (1) - I feel these consecutive whistle does not match , remove it to the end of the slider.
  2. 00:08:576 (3) - same as here.
  3. 00:54:219 (2,3) - try to put 1/2 repeat slider ? there is hard to take a little for beginners.
  4. 01:59:361 (2,3) - same as here.
  5. 02:13:075 (2) - same as here.
  6. 02:18:647 - I want to put sound here . so try to put a slider from here.02:18:433 -
[cRyo's Note]
  1. 00:00:862 (2) - add whistle to the end of the slider.
  2. 00:07:719 (2) - same as here.
  3. 02:20:362 (3) - remove whistle to the head of the slider.it is unnecessary here. ><
    ...orz nice (*´∀`*)♪
[Love Note]
  1. 00:29:147 (7,1) - switch these newcombos for your pattern? although i think the current one looks better.
  2. 00:33:004 (5) - I want to put more jump here . I feel there is strong sound same as here.00:32:147 -
  3. 00:39:433 (3) - try to put a little bit better this blanket.
    http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/576834
  4. 00:47:576 (3) - more spacing here ? same as 00:48:862 (1,2) - and 00:50:576 (1,2) -
  5. 02:10:719 (3,4) - switch these notes for flow.
  6. 02:20:362 (2) - same as hard diff.
nice (*´∀`*)♪

I love piano and this map ~ guest diff and heki's are very good ><b

good luck (「・ω・)「 ☆
Saten

alacat wrote:

Hi:3 As requested =3=

[Saten's Note]
  1. Approach Rate - 1 . so fast >< It's not fast. 5 is good (Why did you change the AR h3k D:)
  2. 00:18:005 (3) - try this ? Fix this one, so it prevents the player is going to misread. with lower AR, it's easily misread imo
    http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/576475
  3. 00:21:647 (1) - add whistle to the repeat of the slider , remove it to the head. I like the way it currently sounds
    same as here.00:20:147 (1) - , 00:23:576 (1) -
  4. 00:44:576 (3) - add new combo . you put some repeats here. I've chosen the current pattern to be like this
  5. 00:48:005 (2) - touch the HP bar >< try to move down here. it cannot be prevented and by the look of the screenshot, it's not that serious. Also, it looks much better in widescreen.
    http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/576493
  6. 00:51:433 (3) - same as above.00:44:576 (3) - Same as before
  7. 00:54:862 (1) - try to make curve slider ? looks good imo :3 sure, why not
  8. 01:18:005 (3) - hmm... you should turn to the right a little more, the flow is good. I think it flows better the way it already is
    http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/576633
  9. 01:33:647 (3) - same as above.00:21:647 (1) - Like I mentioned before
  10. 02:01:719 (4,5) - try to put a little bit better this blanket. kinda hard to do that while keeping the same spacing
o3o
http://puu.sh/1Qm9y
Koyocik
Why graveyard?!
Qplayer
Just wanted to say this is one of my favorite maps in the game and it's a shame to see it graveyarded :(
Topic Starter
h3k1ru
revived
Frostmourne
Hi ~

Did check throughout the mapset and found only some unsnapped sliders in Normal, and they were fixed accordingly.
Have taken for so long, here is a bubble ;)
Topic Starter
h3k1ru
thx frost ></
oempa
hope this gets ranked, very good map ^-^
Andrea
Good luck on getting this ranked ^^
alacat
go go go ;) !!
Quilt

alacat wrote:

go go go ;) !!
:)
J o J o
Go go rank it, i love the song
Topic Starter
h3k1ru
self popped bubble due to the response from peppy i need to censor an image
Topic Starter
h3k1ru
ok done, no other changes have been made
Frostmourne
kk
those
Music at the preview time is 70bpm. Is it the same throughout or is it only this slow during the preview?
Topic Starter
h3k1ru

those wrote:

Music at the preview time is 70bpm. Is it the same throughout or is it only this slow during the preview?
hi those

the piano part is 140 bpm, the dub part is 70 bpm, the map mapped to piano

please download map first if u r unsure
those

h3k1ru wrote:

the map mapped to piano
Nothing suggests that it is 140 during piano part either. All you did was choose 140 bpm and place the objects on 1/2, instead of choosing 70bpm and placing the objects on 1/4.

And I'm not unsure, but I have the map downloaded and can proceed to conclude the bpm is 70.
Topic Starter
h3k1ru

those wrote:

Nothing suggests that it is 140 during piano part either.
00:54:005 - 01:22:290 - suggest it

those wrote:

All you did was choose 140 bpm and place the objects on 1/2, instead of choosing 70bpm and placing the objects on 1/4.
what about 1/8 parts? it should be placed on 1/16? its not even funny
those

h3k1ru wrote:

what about 1/8 parts? it should be placed on 1/16? its not even funny
Exactly! You've got the idea. Do you need any other help changing it?
Topic Starter
h3k1ru
i have edit my previous post, please check it
those
That part is most definitely 70bpm; I have no idea why you think that section is 140bpm. Rather, if you're unsure, leave it to someone who is sure (me) :D
Topic Starter
h3k1ru
after some talk with other BATs i decided to keep 140 bpm

the main reason is the fact of using 3.2 sv and 1\16 is just wrong and bug editor:


there no strict rule about doubled / halved bpm, but 70 bpm in this map ruin the mapping (editor) experience

thx for check those
those
If you want to play the "rule" card, there is a rule saying timing must be correct. Have these other BATs talk to me. Until then, I hope this doesn't get ranked.

Edit: I was told a wrong bpm wasn't a basis to pop a bubble, so I'm giving it back for now.
mm201
Quick incomplete mod, don't kudosu.

140BPM is fine
There are (effectively) silent hitsounds. Please never use a volume less than around 20%.
Please set tick 2 on all difficulties.
Cryo difficulty has really silly spacing. The overlapping 1/2s don't make any sense.
The sliders beginning on 1/8 ticks are very odd and don't make sense. You shouldn't sync an improvised "lyric", but instead base your mapping off the music's structure. It confuses the player when you follow stylizations in the music.
Quilt
go go :D
cRyo[iceeicee]

mm201 wrote:

Cryo difficulty has really silly spacing.
where
The overlapping 1/2s don't make any sense.
where
The sliders beginning on 1/8 ticks are very odd and don't make sense.
where
mm201

cRyo[iceeicee] wrote:

mm201 wrote:

Cryo difficulty has really silly spacing.
where
The overlapping 1/2s don't make any sense.
where
The sliders beginning on 1/8 ticks are very odd and don't make sense.
where
First two:

I think the other half spacings are probably fine.

Third: Your diff doesn't have as many of them as Aleks and h3k1ru's difficulties, but stacks like 00:16:933 (1) - could use an extra rebound.
cRyo[iceeicee]
00:41:147 (3,4,5,6) -
00:42:862 (3,4,5,6) -
00:44:576 (3,4,5,6) -
00:45:433 (7,8,9,10,1) -
00:47:147 (3,4,5,6) -
00:48:862 (3,4,5,6) -
00:50:576 (3,4,5,6) -
I dont see any problems with this antijumps, they fits well
Thanks for mod o.o
mm201
They all make sense but the last one. h3k1ru: I'll rebubble once you self-pop but I don't feel okay ranking this with the sudden nonsense spacing change at 0:52 in Cryo's diff.

Also IRC mod. I had to merge two different logs since I forgot to savelog >_<
SPOILER
09:21 <h3k1ru> hi mm, thx to looking at my map, will u continue with ur mod or
i can apply fixes now?
09:21 <h3k1ru> im agreed with tick rate 2, and 1/8 parts
09:23 <h3k1ru> but about cryo's sliders and spacing.. its too vague for me,
everything looks fine until u give an explanation what parts are
weird in ur opinion
09:29 <mm201> the half spacing parts don't feel right to me
09:30 <mm201> 00:51:005 (5,6,1,2) - these especially
09:30 <mm201> you break into double spacing with no change in the music
09:31 <h3k1ru> welp.. not me XD
09:31 <h3k1ru> but i will tell to cryo take a look at it
09:31 <mm201> the earlier ones are probably okay but stuff like this doesn't
make sense
13-06-23 08:31:26 h3k1ru: thanks
13-06-23 08:31:31 h3k1ru: I'll clarify this part
09:32 <h3k1ru> and about the sound
09:32 <h3k1ru> with less than 20% volume
09:32 <h3k1ru> i know its bug sometimes with low general volume
09:32 <h3k1ru> but the song sooo quiet
09:33 <mm201> also the spinners at the beginning feel forced to me
09:33 <mm201> that part of the music is quiet and doesn't suit a spinner
09:33 <mm201> it's a pause, not a buildup of energy
09:35 <h3k1ru> there was a solution with break, but i decided to stay with
spinners
09:35 <h3k1ru> if u look at this spinners in autoplay
09:35 <mm201> I think a break makes more sense
09:35 <h3k1ru> there score sound fits well
13-06-23 08:36:42 h3k1ru: 01:29:576 (1,2,3,4) - can you fix spacing here?
09:36 <h3k1ru> what diff
09:37 <mm201> highest one
13-06-23 08:37:15 h3k1ru: should be more like 01:32:576 (3,4) -
09:38 <h3k1ru> i think i can adjust it from 0.8x to 1.0x
09:38 <mm201> thanks
13-06-23 08:44:08 h3k1ru: 02:03:432 (3,4,5) - Aleks difficulty - has odd spacing
13-06-23 08:44:52 h3k1ru: http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/827978 1.58 and 1.2, it stands out as wrong
09:45 <h3k1ru> okay i will take a look
13-06-23 08:45:53 h3k1ru: and you got my message about the sliders ending on 1/8s?
09:46 <h3k1ru> not the message but the post on forum
13-06-23 08:46:19 h3k1ru: yeah that's what I mean
09:46 <h3k1ru> yeah i will change it
13-06-23 08:46:39 h3k1ru: thanks
09:46 <h3k1ru> tbh i think the both solutions are good
09:47 <h3k1ru> but ur solution is more "playable"
09:47 <h3k1ru> i was thought about it before, its hard to choose
09:49 <h3k1ru> 02:03:861 (4) -
09:49 <h3k1ru> about this note on Aleks diff
09:49 <h3k1ru> the main point is he used it to stack with 02:02:575 (1) -
09:49 <h3k1ru> because 02:02:575 (1) - have 1.6x 1.6x
13-06-23 08:50:01 h3k1ru: be more clever~
13-06-23 08:50:14 h3k1ru: move (5) down, flip (6)
09:50 <h3k1ru> if move (4) to proper spacing
09:50 <h3k1ru> it will looks.. ugly?
09:50 <h3k1ru> :>
13-06-23 08:51:05 h3k1ru: like dis https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/827984
09:51 <h3k1ru> i got it
13-06-23 09:05:08 h3k1ru: I'll be back online in about an hour, call me for a rebubble
10:05 <h3k1ru> alright, thanks
Topic Starter
h3k1ru
updated, please check!

unfortunately cRyo refuse to make changes to that pattern
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