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Ashley Tisdale and Lucas Grabeel - I Want it All

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Topic Starter
Mashley
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 05 April 2009 at 22:24:57

Artist: Ashley Tisdale and Lucas Grabeel
Title: I Want it All
Source: High School Musical 3
BPM: 143
Filesize: 2414kb
Play Time: 02:36
Difficulties Available:
  1. That's Better! (4.47 stars, 259 notes)
  2. Think Bigger! (1.91 stars, 69 notes)
  3. You're A Superstar! (By Wojjan) (4.84 stars, 334 notes)
Download: Ashley Tisdale and Lucas Grabeel - I Want it All
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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I have no idea why I mapped this. I don't even like High School Musical.

11th March '09 - Think Bigger completed, moved to pending.
12th March '09 - Did vytalibus' modding. THANKS VYTALIBUS! - Shinxyn told me to so snap it all, so I did. THANKS SHINXYN!
14th March '09 - Shinxyn told me to change it to 1/2 at first I thought he or she was insane but it turned out fine. THANKS AGAIN SHINXYN! Did Vexed's modding. THANKS VEXED! Did Shinxyn's modding. THANKS AGAIN AGAIN SHINXYN! :D
15th March '09 - Did Jeffro's modding. THANKS JEFFRO!
16th March '09 - Did Saturos-fangirl's modding. THANKS SATUROS-FANGIRL! Did flyboy87's modding. THANKS FLYBOY87!
17th March '09 - Did K2J's modding. THANKS K2J! Did Skyripper's modding. THANKS SKYRIPPER!
18th March '09 - Did some of Saturos-fangirl's modding. THANKS AGAIN SATUROS-FANGIRL!
19th March '09 - Turned the sound effects down a bit as Larto said. THANKS LARTO!
22nd March '09 - Added Kiai. Lots of short Kiais on That's Better and just one at the end on Think Bigger. Metroid gave me lots of spacing to do, but I just went through and spaced the whole thing. There shouldn't be amy problems with it now! THANKS METROID!
24th March '09 - Did Ichinitose's modding. THANKS ITCHINOTOSE!
25th March '09 - Did Zatoichi's modding. THANKS ZATOICHI!
27th March '09 - Did Kyocciola's modding. THANKS KYOCCIOLA!
28th March '09 - Did Ekaru's modding. THANKS EKARU! Added tons of whistles. Beatmap sounds even better now. :)
29th March '09 - Did Wojjan's modding. THANKS WOJJAN! Did Saturos-fangirl's modding. THANKS AGAIN AGAIN SATUROS-FANGIRL!
April Fools Day '09 - Did Sir_Minelli's modding. THANKS SIR_MINELLI!
3rd April '09 - Did whymeman's modding. THANKS WHYMEMAN!! Added You're A Superstar (by Wojjan). THANKS WOJJAN!! Made a few changes to Superstar, mosly hitsounds but I also changed the spinner at the end to 4 beats to make it more like the other difficulties.
4th April '09 - Did Shinxyn's modding. THANKS SHINXYN! Did Larto's modding. THANKS AGAIN LARTO! Yay bubble! Did minyeob's modding. THANKS MINYEOB!
5th April 2009 - Did RemmyX25's modding. THANKS REMMYX25!
vytalibus
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Topic Starter
Mashley
I think I did what you said to do. Thanks for the help! :) If anyone else wants to help then you are also awesome...
Shinxyn
I'd mod and give you a list... but... I can't with how its snapped atm.
I checked through both, and.... let's just say, you don't need to use 1/6.
The BPM is correct, and after checking through everything... here's what I highly suggest you do~

For BOTH diffs, changed your Beat Snap Divisor to 1/2 (yes, 1/2 is enough, no need for 1/6 or even 1/4).
Go under the Timing menu, (not where Compose, Design is.. where File, and Edit is... ) and when still in 1/2 snap, Resnap All Notes, and Recalculate Slider Lengths. Then go through both Diffs in 1/2 timing.
Vexed_old
That's Better Diff.

01:04:50 (5,6) - fix spacing
01:52:12 (7,8) - fix spacing
01:52:47 (8,9) - Move both notes ahead 1 tick.
00:41:529 Remove break and reinsert via break buttonfor correct placement.
00:55:06 (4) - New combo
00:57:15 (2) - New combo
00:58:20 (4) - New combo
01:03:03 (1) - New combo
01:03:87 (3) - New combo
01:04:50 (5) - New combo
01:04:92 (6) - Remove 6 and 7 and insert Slider in it place. Just a suggestion. I think it would work out better. If not 7 is a bit out of place it looks like.
01:04:50 (5) - New combo also for 6 and 7 sliders.
01:31:98 (7) - New combo
01:37:85 (4) - New combo
01:47:508 Remove break and re-insert. These breaks look like they may not have re-snapped.
01:52:54 (8) - New combo
01:57:787 POINT IN FACT, just remove all breaks and re-insert. :/
02:02:61 (4) - New combo
02:07:85 (1) - New combo
02:08:27 (1) - New combo
02:11:00 (3) - New combo
02:11:84 (5) - New combo
02:14:36 (3) - New combo
02:17:71 (1) - New combo
02:18:55 (3) - New combo
02:21:07 (4) - New combo
02:21:49 (5) - New combo
02:23:59 (5) - NC
02:24:43 (6) - NC
02:25:27 (7) - NC
02:27:78 (1) - NC
02:31:14 (1) - NC
02:31:98 (3) - NC
02:35:34 (1) - NC for 1 2 3 and 4

Thats all im doing for now.... I have a headache. new combos are needed. you may need one less or one more than i listed give or take but you get the idea.
Shinxyn
That's Better
00:17:29 (5) - align with (1) from same combo
00:26:94 (1) - shorten this by 1/2
00:50:65 (3,4) - slope it better/space it better
00:52:33 (5,6,7) - Confusing cuz the rest of beats match vocal, so change it or New combo
00:55:06 (4,1) - switch the combo here (4 becomes 1, and that 1 becomes 2)
00:56:31 (1) - extend by 1/2 or add a beat right after it (my opinion)
00:57:36 (2) - ^
01:04:71 (x) - add note here?
01:12:26 (1) - align with (7)?
01:18:34 (1) - Hmm, I think this would be better with a hitsound
01:20:44 (7,8,9) - I don't like how this part suddenly strays away from rest of combo
01:28:62 (1,2,3,4) - for this part, use 1/4 to match the music
01:37:85 (1,2,3,4) - align with (3)?
01:44:57 (1) - try not to overlap like this
01:52:47 (1,2) - THIS PART ISN'T SNAPPED!!
02:07:22 (1) - Don't have this covered a bit
02:14:57 (2) - have slider look more like 02:13:73 (2), so (1) and (3) don't overlap as much
02:22:54 (1) - try not to overlap like this

Think Bigger
00:41:63 (x) - the break's off
00:48:13 (1,2,3) - move 1/2 back
00:50:23 (4) - move back 1/2 and extend 1/2
01:04:08 (2,3) - the claps seem weird, either rid of them or add clap to end of 1
01:19:18 (1) - extend by 1/2
01:22:96 (x) - the map ended... so get rid of this break..

Just general parts I thought needed work, and... you need to recheck spacing for both diffs, some parts aren't evenly spaced as other (and I'm quite certain you didn't mean to). But yea, aside from people not looking at this because where it came from, the maps done well. -Stars-
Topic Starter
Mashley
Wow, someone actually said my map is well done. I feel so freakin' special! :)
Jeffro
00:49:18 (1,2,3,4) - This isn't distance snapped and if it is.. Well it would be 0.85 xD

00:57:15 (1,2, 1) - Not distance snapped.

00:59:67 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Not distance snapped too. It's fine to use different values sometime but not in the same combo please xD

Ensure your distance snap button is on.

The part before "red carpet" could be better so I fixed that for you. Attached a .osu file you can look at to copy paste it into your existing map :)

I'm sure there are more distance space issues so try to fix that.

Starred for being an awesome map!

Download: Ashley Tisdale and Lucas Grabeel - I Want it All (Agent Spin Here) [Better supersound XD].osu
Yuukari-Banteki
Just a friendly reminder that what I say is mostly *suggestion* on how to possibly improve your map and not a *command* that you change your map!

[Think Bigger!]
00:17:29 (3) - spacing feels wide here
00:18:76 (1) - line this up with the end of 3
00:33:87 (1) - start this 1/2 later
00:54:01 (1) - line this up with the previous slider
00:57:15 (1) - ^
01:12:26 (1) - line this up with 5


[That's Better!]
00:18:34 (1) - line this up with 5
00:57:36 (2,1) - overlap looks messy
01:01:56 (6) - spacing?
01:04:50 (1) - line up with 2
01:08:69 (1) - line up with 4
01:29:15 (4) - imperfect stacking
01:31:98 (1) - line this up vertically with 6?
01:53:38 (2) - spacing?
02:11:00 (1) - note is completely and illegally hidden
02:11:84 (1) - ^
flyboy87
[Think Bigger!]
17:822 (3) - Extend to 17:927
51:703 - Adding a note here sounds good
58:836 (2) - Shift this to 58:626

[That's Better!]
20:025 (1) - Move this slider down 1 grid
39:116 (1) - I feel that this slider looks confusing...
1:28:522 (1) - Remove this and place it in 1:28731. Remove the slider as well as it doesn't fit that part very well. I'm not good in explaining it in words, so... here's a screenshot. Notice that I use the 1/6 snap divisor

1:34:710 - Clap sound overload @___@
2:24:431 (1) - Move this slider 4 grids to the right
2:25:270 (1) - And move this 2 grids to the right
2:28:417 (3) - Move this to 2:28:626

I don't watch High School Musical, but this is a nice song, lol!

Star~
Topic Starter
Mashley
I did most of your modding flyboy, apart from a few things that I felt didn't benefit from changing. Thanks for the star! ^_^

K2J
Pretty good; the more varied spacing is exciting, but it, of course, can be confusing:

[Think Bigger!]
00:32:61 (1) - I feel like hitting this early, for some reason.
00:37:43 (1) - Maybe you could do some other direction with this one than with the other two so the user knows it might be a different repeat length?
00:58:83 (2) - This whole section feels odd, but with practice I think it's fine. This beat in particular throws me off.

[That's Better!]
00:32:61 (1) - Same as above; I hit this early for some reason. Maybe the jump is making me overestimate when the beat will be?
00:57:36 (2) - This (and its predecessor) aren't symmetric. I know they are symmetric when you account for each other, but it still caught my eye.
01:28:52 (1,2,3,4,1) - I think this should all be shifted one blue tick to the right. Sorry if that contradicts what someone told you earlier...
02:35:34 (1,2,3,4) - Isn't this overdoing it a bit?

Very engaging - star.
Topic Starter
Mashley
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Skyripper
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Jeffro
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Yuukari-Banteki
Just a friendly reminder that what I say is mostly *suggestion* on how to possibly improve your map and not a *command* that you change your map!

[Think Bigger!]
00:17:29 (3) - this is too far from 2
00:37:43 (1,1) - stack
01:12:26 (1,2) - ^


[That's Better!]
00:56:31 (1,1,2) - line these up
01:07:64 (4,1,2,3,4) - stack
01:28:55 (1,2,3,4,1) - snap


otherwise pretty good, I'd suggest looking for a BAT soon
Jeffro
01:28:55 (1,2,3,4,1) - snap
That means its still on the wrong time. It should be on 01:28:62
Larto
Pretty nice map. I actually kinda like the song ;3


Overall:
Sounds a bit more quiet, they overtone the music.

Otherwise, this is close to rank!






EDIT: HOLY FUCK, MY 1000TH POST IS ON A HSM MAP. AM I GAY OR WHAT


Larto, you don't have to ask, actually.
Topic Starter
Mashley
Done! Thanks for checking out my map Larto. Congratulations on your 1000th post. :lol:
Larto
Fuuuuuuuuck, I totally didn't notice:

- Inherit all the sections.

- Make the preferred skin "User's choice"
Metroid
Think Bigger! - inherit sections now.... and no EBO preffered skin please.
UNDERMAPPED... you can do better.

00:17:29 (3) - it's farther away form the 2 then 1 is to 2, fix please, this is necessary.
00:27:99 (3) - Not spaced at all.
00:29:88 (2) - Not spaced either.
00:32:61 (1) - Not spaced.
00:33:97 (1) - Not spaced.
00:35:759 (1,1) - Not spaced.
00:37:43 (1) - Not spaced.
Note the spacing through out the map cause I'm not gonna basically list every beat.

Think Better! - It's normal like, maybe add a 3rd difficulty. also inherit timing sections..

00:21:70 (1,2) - Spacing issue, BTW you have fine spacing in this difficulty, you can do better....
01:19:18 (1-the whole combo) - not spaced, some beats touch, others don't
01:43:31 (2) - Out of spacing.
I'm now confused to do you have it so 1/2 beats touch or just sit snugly next to each other without touching?
02:35:759(1,1,1,1) - I'm all for jumps, but 1 it's a normal like difficulty, jumps like that are for Hard or Insane, also that's WAY TO BIG for a correct jump.

That's it.
[deleted user]
Gawd I hate this song but i'm modding it anyway :|

[Think Bigger]
00:20:34 - 2 - Move this 1/4 backwards.
01:03:137 - 1 - Again move this 1/4 backwards.

And, that's it lol.

[That's Better]
Can't find any problems. You did a good job and for that you get cookie.
Zatoichi
Think Bigger
00:18:76 (1) - move 2/4 forward
00:20:34 (2) - move 3/4 forward
00:33:97 (1) - move 1/4 forward, it'd also sound better if it ended on 00:34:920
01:01:87 (1) - move 1/4 forward

That's Better
00:59:67 (1) - put this on the white tick
Behon
Oh God why am I starring a High School Musical map I shouldn't be having fun with this
Topic Starter
Mashley
Wow I am actually on the front page. DANG! Come on everyone just mod it!
Kyocciola
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Ekaru
K, let's fix your kiai time:

Kiai time (for both difficulties) should start where you have the first one, end at the break. The second one should also start where you have it (the one a little past 2 minutes in, I mean) and last til the end of the map, so you don't need a last section.

Nothing else, really. Good song, fun map, ect.

EDIT I meant the ones on the harder difficulty. Add those to the normal too! THIS IS IMPORTANT!
mrtn
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Topic Starter
Mashley
I toke your advice and added lots of whistles mrtn (you were right, I really think it sonds tons better now) but the other stuff I don't think benefits the map, particularly the 'add note here's. I felt that Ryan's bits in the beginning were too 'talky' to be mapped.
Wojjan
I went through Think Bigger, but it's just perfect.

So, on That's Better, I did find things to nag about.

-00:18:97 (0) - Place a beat here please
-00:20:65 (0) - Same
-01:03:03 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - One too many combo's for a Hard(er) diff. Delete one or two.
-02:02:61 (1) - I tend to click this one too early. Mind to move it?
-02:27:99 (2,3) - Since there's no new word here, I'd make these a slider, but that's up to you.

All in all, it's great, I'd love it getting ranked. Star's for you
Yuukari-Banteki
[Think Bigger!]
00:18:97 (1) - too close to 3
00:37:43 (1) - move the end so it isnt hidden by the previous slider
00:40:37 (2) - align with 1
00:54:01 (1) - maybe move this to a less hidden position?
00:59:67 (1) - align under 3
01:03:24 (1,2,3) - inconsistant spacing
01:04:92 (3) - end 1/4 earlier or later


[That's Better!]
00:18:97 (2) - align horizontally with the end of 1
00:20:65 (2) - ^
00:22:33 (3) - ^
00:31:56 (2) - line end up vertically with 1
00:34:08 (2) - make this symmetrical plz
00:59:88 (2,3,4) - inconsistant spacing
01:29:25 (4) - improper stacking
01:34:71 (1,2,3,4) - align horizontally with 1
01:37:43 (3) - align with 2
02:13:73 (2) - align with 1
02:31:14 (1) - move to the other side of the 2's so that its less hidden
Sir Minelli
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whymeman
I'm not a pro mapper but lets see how I can help...

oh and just letting you know, some of the errors I post are only suggestions, not directions.

[Think Bigger!]

00:31:98 (3,1,1) - the spacing at this section seems a bit too close, but then again, since its supposed to make the map easier to play, you could ignore this unless someone says other wise.


I tested with an offset of 530 ms though it could be a bit more or less but if your offset works better then keep it.

That's all I notice so far with this level.

[That's Better!]

00:35:75 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - sliders (1) and (2) could be aligned a bit more better and (3) is not lined up with (4).
00:40:79 (1) - maybe you can line this up with (2)?
00:58:20 (1) - Just missed the finishing point. Move it back 1/4 to the red tick.
01:34:71 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - (6) & (7) is uneven with this stack.
01:36:80 (2,3) - (3) is a bit far from the slider end of (2).
02:05:55 (2,1) - The spacing here seems kinda odd. The Distance Snap reads at about 1.2x with this spacing, then some of the other hitnotes has 1.0x, and others with a 0.9x.

There's some other parts with questionable spacing, but its not that bad.

But overall, its well done and within the flow of the song. Here's a star for effort. :)
Wojjan
Bumpity Bump

So, the new diff I promised! It's done, ready for, well, getting shot by spacing nazi's =P

Download: Ashley Tisdale and Lucas Grabeel - I Want it All (Agent Spin Here) [You're A Superstar!].osu
Topic Starter
Mashley
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Shinxyn
Hmm the maps gone through so many peers~ Guess I'll just nazi what I can then~!

Think Bigger-
00:22:33 (1,2,3) - why is distance snap different here?
00:34:08 (1) - spacing?
00:54:85 (3) - one tick to left
Some of the spacing seems to change bit, but its already easy diff, so no biggy

That's Better-

00:40:79 (1) - I don't like the whistle here
00:54:01 (1,2,3) - add hitsounds here to make it stand out from the next combo or add on next combo
00:58:20 (1) - shorten this by 1/4 to red tick and replace the whistle with clap
01:01:35 (5,6) - move this lower so it looks like it follows the (4)
01:12:26 (1) - a tick too far?
01:20:02 (5,6,7,8) - move this up and left one tick (align the 5 with 3)
01:20:86 (9) - after that ^, move align this with (4) between 3 and 5, should look nicer
01:38:48 (4) - add finish to end of slider?
01:55:26 (5) - align this with end of slider (don't use grid snap to do so)
Recheck your spacing after 02:00, some places seem too close or too far

You're A Superstar-
Level 2 Grid (Small), right?
00:17:29 (9) - jump... maybe new combo?
00:21:91 (2) - too close
00:32:61 (1) - if this is a question mark, curve the end more please?
00:37:01 (6) - spacing, dont use grid snap to place between
00:37:64 (8,9,10,11,12,13) - move this bunch so 10 goes under fading 4 and 11 under 6?
00:39:11 (1) - same as 00:32:61
00:51:49 (9) - new combo?
01:14:15 (17) - reshape (16) so 17 fits under fading 11/15 (and add new combo somewhere in this)
01:19:81 (4) - respace this?
01:37:85 (3) - move the repeating end up a tick
02:09:11 (1) - move this under fading 7 slider or away from it
02:16:87 (1) - too close
02:35:34 (1,1,1,1) - thats kinda far, even for jumps, just my opinion

The many distance snap changes were kinda annoying to follow. Overall pretty good, though some combos were kinda long.
I thought some of the claps were overused, but that just my thoughts.

-Already starred this~-
Larto
Think Bigger:
00:55:79 (1) - 1/4 forward

That's Better:
00:58:20 (1) - 1/4 shorter
01:12:15 (1) - 1/4 forward

Superstar:
00:24:01 (12) - 3 level 3 grids to the riiiight.
02:35:34 (1,1,1,1) - Can you make those jumps a bit smaller? Not that they are too big, they just are kinda HIDDEN D:
Topic Starter
Mashley
Done Larto, thanks for the help. :)
Jarby
00:55:06 - Move timing section to 00:55:89.
02:09:11 - Move timing section to 02:09:74.

That's Better!:

01:28:62 (1,2,3,4) - Too hard for this difficulty. Make it easier with sliders.
Larto
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Topic Starter
Mashley
Yaaaaaay! Bubble! Thankyou Larto! Now someone else hurry up and bubble it.
minyeob
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Sonnyc
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RemmyX25
I want it better
Not gonna rank this because, IMO, this could use a few more fountains. :P

I'll take the liberty of telling you WHERE the fountains should also be placed; once thats fixed, i'll rank it.
01:02:61
02:16:45

Of course, these are my opinions, and you can take them however you like~

You're a superstar
Nothing else really wrong here, but consider my kiai fountain suggestion here as well

RemmyEDIT: All fix'd. I think this Rank'd now.
Topic Starter
Mashley
Yay! I finally got a map ranked! ^_^
Sonnyc
Grats Agent Spin Here.
Maybe you can have one more~ ;)
Symbolic
[You're A Superstar (By Wojjan)]

***Add some spinners please***
You should try to make the "?-sliders" more smooth.

00:15:41 (1,2,3) - Slider here for better flow (in place of 3 notes a repeat-slider).
00:18:34 (1,2,3) - Spacing inconsistency (compare 00:15:41 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) with 00:18:34 (1,2,3)).
00:20:02 (4) - New combo.
00:21:70 (1,2,3) - Slider here for better flow (in place of 3 notes a repeat-slider).
00:23:59 (10,11) - Slider here for better flow.
00:24:43 (14,15) - Slider here.
00:27:15 (4) - New combo.
00:27:78 (7,8) - Slider here.
00:30:72 (7) - New combo.
00:31:56 (9) - ^
00:36:59 (4) - ^
00:37:43 (7) - ^
00:37:43 (7,8) - Slider here.
00:38:27 (11,12,13) - Slider here for better flow (in place of 3 notes a repeat-slider).
01:13:31 (15,16) - Spacing issue here.
01:30:30 (4,5) - Slider here.
01:31:14 (7) - New combo.
01:37:85 (3) - ^
01:40:37 (4) - ^
01:41:21 (5) - ^
01:41:84 (8,9) - Slider here for better flow.
01:42:26 (10,11) - Slider here.
01:44:99 (7,8) - Slider here for better flow.
01:47:29 (2) - New combo.
01:52:96 (1,2,3,4) - Slider here (in place of 4 notes a repeat-slider).
02:03:87 (4,5) - Slider here.
02:04:71 (7,8) - ^
02:05:55 (10,11) - ^

The chorus with the kiai time is so damn epic :D
Great job on this difficulty, I like it very much.


[That's Better!]

00:22:12 (x) - Could add a note here.
00:29:88 (2) - Line this up straight with (1).
00:31:56 (2) - ^
00:32:61 (1) - This isn't spaced right.
00:34:08 (2) - ^
00:37:64 (x) - Could add a note here.
00:52:54 (1) - This isn't spaced right.
02:07:64 (x) - Could add a note here.

Sooo epic chorus here also :)


[Think Bigger!]

00:37:43 (1) - Line this up straight with (1).
01:01:56 (5) - Line this up straight with (4).
01:04:08 (2) - Line this up straight with (1).
01:06:17 (1) - Spacing isn't right here.
01:21:49 (1,1,1,1) - I actually wouldn't put a jump in an Easy difficulty, you should space this with distance snap imo.


Very nice map overall, really!
Starred *
***EDIT: This got ranked in the time I went to school :(. Anyways, congratz***
mrtn
Really fun man, but i really miss speed-ups at the chorus in Wojjan diffi :(
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