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Ani - Ververg (feat. B) (Ver. B)

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Poggo
1,502 posts
Joined January 2012
Poggo
Hi hi moe Niva :3

[Insane]

00:49:988 - hm I think triple here sounds good~
01:19:909 - add note here~ For me it's sound more rhythmically
01:35:698 - add NC on spin

[Hyper]

00:49:198 - hm I think better add NC here bcz you change speed and it can confused players~

[Normal]


01:35:777 - add NC on spin
00:36:883 (1,2) - hm It's a little uncomfortable to play~ Maybe you up it a bit?
01:17:146(2) - start slider will be touch score~ It's not good, put it down a bit
01:27:409(4) - ^ same

[Easy]

Unsnaped green sections:
00:07:835
00:08:151
00:08:309
01:05:309

01:34:356 - hm I think 5 notes for easy it a bit hard for beginners~ maybe remove note 1 and start spin here? http://puu.sh/2407A I think It wil be easy to play :3
01:35:619 - add nc on spin
01:38:146 (1,2) - I recommend unstack it, bcz stack note with slider on 1/1 with bpm 190 it's a bit fast and will confused beginners

It's all for me :3 Yeaaahh you know, I already want see it ranked <3 Good luck)
Niva
Global Moderator
3,187 posts
Joined November 2009
Topic Starter
Niva

HeatKai wrote:

[General]
  1. offset might be better if it's 886. Err idk surely, +3 will do I think o.o
  2. 01:16:675 i think this part,you should make the volume getting higher.like this,and then the kiai part,let it go back to 75% because it's on the normal volume. Oh, great suggestion (I used different volume though~)
    SPOILER
[Easy]
AiBAT found this.
Unsnapped inherited (green) sections at:
00:07:835 - snap to 00:07:830
00:08:151 - snap to 00:08:146
00:08:309 - snap to 00:08:304
01:05:309 - snap to 01:05:304

Done all

  1. 00:15:096 (5) - i think there's a beat at the middle of the slider,that quite easy to hear,why don't you make a repeating slider? Changed to slider + circle + circle instead~
  2. 00:22:675 (1) - Try to evade from making an overlap on the easiest diff,it's confusing for some new player. o.o? I think this one was inspired by sp3's slider shape >_<
  3. 00:38:780 (1) - why don't you make it like this? blanket that far circle x3 Umm my current shape feels more solid personally...
    SPOILER
  4. 00:57:728 (1) - same as 00:22:675 (1)
  5. 01:10:043 (2) - ^
  6. 01:25:201 (2) - ^ Ah... Don't wanna change these three as well though (same reason :3)
I don't have anything to say about the hitsounds,because it's perfect!

[Normal]
  1. 00:08:461 (1) - so early for anti-spacing.make it as a normal spacing? for normal having this kind of spacing quite confusing,even for me. aaaa I loved that one >_<
  2. 00:32:146 (3) - the third grid,go left by one,to make it flow better with the next slider. Done
    SPOILER
  3. 00:52:830 (6,1) - lower this down? really close to touching the hp bar.even the approach circle is blocked by the hp bar.
  4. 01:01:514 (1) - ^ Done the first, but I want to keep the second as is personally...
  5. 01:34:198 - add a note here.feels empty and this part got a vocal. Oh, I think 1/1 like this is better because previous 01:32:149 (2) was also 1/1...
[Insane]
  1. 00:07:514 (1,2,3) - I'm not sure whether I've got an eye problem or what,I didn't think this is straight. Readjusted (1), should be good now~
  2. 00:12:251 (1) - try think of other shape? this one looks kinda ugly but it still cool :p a... I liked that one personally >_<
Niva's mapping always leave a good impression ;w; with his star pattern and anti jump x3 great diff! love it.

Leorda bubble this! lol xD

Katty Pie wrote:

Hi hi moe Niva :3

[Insane]

00:49:988 - hm I think triple here sounds good~ Oh, idk, I don't really hear something there... I rearranged the square a bit though~
01:19:909 - add note here~ For me it's sound more rhythmically Oh this is brilliant orz, added xD
01:35:698 - add NC on spin Intentional (:

[Normal]


01:35:777 - add NC on spin Intentional :3
00:36:883 (1,2) - hm It's a little uncomfortable to play~ Maybe you up it a bit? Done, I can't move it too much though
01:17:146(2) - start slider will be touch score~ It's not good, put it down a bit
01:27:409(4) - ^ same Oh, idk where else to put it o.o

[Easy]

Unsnaped green sections:
00:07:835
00:08:151
00:08:309
01:05:309 Fixed through HeatKai's mod xD

01:34:356 - hm I think 5 notes for easy it a bit hard for beginners~ maybe remove note 1 and start spin here? http://puu.sh/2407A I think It wil be easy to play :3 I want the pentagon personally...
01:35:619 - add nc on spin Oh, it's intentional
01:38:146 (1,2) - I recommend unstack it, bcz stack note with slider on 1/1 with bpm 190 it's a bit fast and will confused beginners Sure~

It's all for me :3 Yeaaahh you know, I already want see it ranked <3 Good luck)
Thank you both (:
Frostmourne
osu! Alumni
3,733 posts
Joined November 2009
Frostmourne
hi

General
why does Hyper belong here ? It's suitable to be named "Hard" rather than Hyper because the whole map set , You didn't use the format "Beginner , Hyper , Another" like IIDX stuffs and your previous version uses normal format "Easy Normal Hard"

Easy
00:48:728 (4) - clap here as you did at 00:41:149 (4) -
01:31:833 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - just my opinion but this is an Easy and is almost the end of the song. I would suggest you to remove some notes from this because they are quite crowded as are. I know it follows really well so maybe you will consider using some sliders instead of 1/2 constant notes here

Normal
00:57:570 (3) - feel a bit empty , adding some hitsound here ?

Insane
01:19:833 (6,7,8) - this stream is unexpected , as you have mapped without 1/4 for the whole map and it starts on the white tick. I suggest you put (2) and (3) on the same position as (1) (perfect stacking) , at least , it reads easier that this (I thought it would be 1/2 with that spacing but no)

Hyper
00:19:833 (1) - finish head? as it starts new phrase , it fits rather than without this here
00:26:780 (8,1) - this flow is quite bad , I would say because from this slider velocity and the direction of (8)
it looks like the (1) should be 1/2 back but it isn't
if I were you , I would stack (1) on 00:27:412 (2) - , at least , the cursor doesn't go perfect straight to the (1) from (8)
00:31:043 (6,1) - quite the same but I can agree this plays better because I knew logic from the above before so this is more predictable
anyways, I still suggest you place (1) on 00:31:675 (2) - like the previous if you fixed the above because of consistency
00:56:780 (7) - finish with drum sampleset on the first point only like this tail ? 00:53:307 (4) -
01:12:411 (4) - unsnapped

let me know once you applied
Niva
Global Moderator
3,187 posts
Joined November 2009
Topic Starter
Niva

Frostmourne wrote:

hi

General
why does Hyper belong here ? It's suitable to be named "Hard" rather than Hyper because the whole map set , You didn't use the format "Beginner , Hyper , Another" like IIDX stuffs and your previous version uses normal format "Easy Normal Hard" Umm I know, when I asked sp3 to make Hard I let he choose his own diff name and he chose Hyper as his diff name~

Easy
00:48:728 (4) - clap here as you did at 00:41:149 (4) - Done
01:31:833 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,1) - just my opinion but this is an Easy and is almost the end of the song. I would suggest you to remove some notes from this because they are quite crowded as are. I know it follows really well so maybe you will consider using some sliders instead of 1/2 constant notes here Changed the second one, about the first one I think 01:30:886 (4,1,2,3,4)'s arc is already good as is (adding slider will look weird imo ._.)

Normal
00:57:570 (3) - feel a bit empty , adding some hitsound here ? Done (clap)

Insane
01:19:833 (6,7,8) - this stream is unexpected , as you have mapped without 1/4 for the whole map and it starts on the white tick. I suggest you put (2) and (3) on the same position as (1) (perfect stacking) , at least , it reads easier that this (I thought it would be 1/2 with that spacing but no) Umm, I think you meant (7,8) here, not (2,3)... I liked the manual stack here personally (it keeps the symmetry in play mode though), I've given this bigger spacing - I think it should be more readable now (just tell me if it doesn't work though >_<)
Thanks Frostmourne, I'll PM you again after sp3 sent his fixes (:
spboxer3
Global Moderator
3,616 posts
Joined November 2009
spboxer3

Frostmourne wrote:

Hyper
00:19:833 (1) - finish head? as it starts new phrase , it fits rather than without this here k
00:26:780 (8,1) - this flow is quite bad , I would say because from this slider velocity and the direction of (8)
it looks like the (1) should be 1/2 back but it isn't
if I were you , I would stack (1) on 00:27:412 (2) - , at least , the cursor doesn't go perfect straight to the (1) from (8) -> under the 00:26:780 (8) - slider end, I want follow the hitsound and used slider at 00:27:412 (2) - , it can make pattern (thought it's a jump) easy to play.
00:31:043 (6,1) - quite the same but I can agree this plays better because I knew logic from the above before so this is more predictable
anyways, I still suggest you place (1) on 00:31:675 (2) - like the previous if you fixed the above because of consistency ->sorry, I keep this pattern
00:56:780 (7) - finish with drum sampleset on the first point only like this tail ? 00:53:307 (4) - k
01:12:411 (4) - unsnapped fixed

let me know once you applied
thx your mod ^^

↓here
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256,320,79043,1,4,0:3:0:0:
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264,64,85517,1,2,0:3:0:0:
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264,328,87412,1,2,0:3:0:0:
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Frostmourne
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Frostmourne
ok!
69653863
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69653863
\:D/ gogo Niva!
spboxer3
Global Moderator
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Joined November 2009
spboxer3

Frostmourne wrote:

ok!
thx Frost >w<~
Aurele
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2011
Aurele
stahp, I feel slow: I thought about this map today while playing Cytus
(I found out how to play this one >_>)
Niko-nyan
1,990 posts
Joined June 2011
Niko-nyan
o.o where is BAT? D:
Scorpiour
2,633 posts
Joined May 2011
Scorpiour
sorry for pop the bubble after i discussed a reverse arrow issue with other BATs..

red - must be fixed
blue - highly recommend to consider
black - only suggestions

[Insane]
  1. 00:18:886 (4) - i think the position of this reverse arrow is not good if players use 4:3 resolution for playing
    SPOILER
  2. 00:45:096 (3) - also touch the boundary of frame
  3. 00:57:728 (1) - ^
Garven
osu! Alumni
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Joined January 2010
Garven
Um. You don't need to judge what you see when observing someone. Just what you see while playing.

Scorpiour
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Joined May 2011
Scorpiour

Garven wrote:

Um. You don't need to judge what you see when observing someone. Just what you see while playing.

SPOILER

but actually that is what i see ... you know the key overlay is allowed to show while playing and i think players who choose to show that like me have no responsibility to take the risk that reverse arrow may be overlapped.
Niva
Global Moderator
3,187 posts
Joined November 2009
Topic Starter
Niva
Umm, I use 4:3 (800x600) also personally o.o

Fixed that 00:18:886 issue and moved the other two's endpoint a bit more to the left (maybe not very visible but you can check it via AIBAT though~)

Thanks Scorpiour, if there's something else let me know btw xD
Scorpiour
2,633 posts
Joined May 2011
Scorpiour
rebubbled~~
NatsumeRin
osu! Alumni
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Joined August 2009
NatsumeRin
Pokie
osu! Alumni
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Joined December 2009
Pokie
;) Grats Niva
spboxer3
Global Moderator
3,616 posts
Joined November 2009
spboxer3
o/
THS
1,024 posts
Joined November 2011
THS
congrats niva~
Niva
Global Moderator
3,187 posts
Joined November 2009
Topic Starter
Niva
Thanks Scorpiour + NatsumeRin (:

Also thanks spboxer3 for his amazing diff and everyone who had supported this map~

(Gabe : orz, it's fine :3)
Yasora
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Joined May 2010
Yasora
slamet XD!
Flask
Beatmap Nominator
3,460 posts
Joined July 2011
Flask
Congratz Niva owo!
HeatKai
osu! Alumni
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Joined April 2010
HeatKai
Niva pro mapper *run
wendao
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Joined August 2012
wendao
yey, congrats o3o
Niko-nyan
1,990 posts
Joined June 2011
Niko-nyan
something to say for u Niva

GRATZ ♥
Kuria
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Joined May 2011
Kuria
slamet^^
senaya
osu! Alumni
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Joined March 2010
senaya
very good map! 10/10
http://puu.sh/2dywR
10nya
2,746 posts
Joined February 2011
10nya

HeatKai wrote:

Niva pro mapper *run
pro mapper :D\
omedetooo
Strawberry
osu! Alumni
1,536 posts
Joined October 2010
Strawberry
coool!!

congratz Niva~
Ultimate
382 posts
Joined December 2008
Ultimate
Ah man!
I just love the insane diff : ), such a refreshing mapping style : D
Very addicting, keep on mapping ^^.

greetz,

Ulti
MineC24
1,072 posts
Joined May 2010
MineC24
congratz~ :)
Yuugo
129 posts
Joined July 2011
Yuugo
To think that I almost missed this awesome song due to it's odd preview point.

I love this song on Cytus too and you've mapped an amazing insane diff! Seriously, well done.
rrtyui
Former osu! Champion: 2014
744 posts
Joined May 2010
rrtyui
Congrats \:D/
Niva
Global Moderator
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Topic Starter
Niva
Thanks again everyone~
Loooctav
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Loooctav
Cognratz~
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