This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on July 3, 2009 at 7:17:51 PM

Artist: Grant Kirkhope
Title: Battle Arena
Source: Donkey Kong 64
BPM: 147.13
Filesize: 8968kb
Play Time: 02:04
Difficulties Available:

1. Intense (4.96 stars, 374 notes)
2. Normal (4.41 stars, 262 notes)
3. Vs. Yoshi (4.7 stars, 331 notes)

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Battle Arena
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Battle arena theme from DK64, enjoy

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Thanks for all the help, Yoshikart. I agree with all the suggestions you made.

1. Sure
2. I guess that can work, like Larto's Final Battle.
3. I don't know much about Storyboarding, and i don't really know where the K. Rool pad can be used. I'm thinking of changing the BG image soon, so maybe it can fit somewhere.

Thanks.

BTW, I was right. You do need a 1/3 snap at those points. X_X So for 00:49:61 (2,3), move them to 00:49:652 and 00:49:788, and 01:51:60 (2,3) to 01:51:638 and 01:51:774.

Google has a lack of N64 stuff. I had to get a .pdf of the instruction booklet to get the battle arena pad. >_>

I'll get my difficulty to you by next week, I suppose? =/

Hi, there! Thought you might like this! ^_^

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Battle Arena (Zerostarry) [Vs. Yoshi].osu

[Vs.Yoshi] Added.



EDIT: Normal added. Mod away.

Overall:
When you place timing sections that change only the volume or the sample, then don't place them directly on notes. If you do, you get the wrong sample when you click said note too early. Place the sections at least 1/4 before notes.

vs. Yoshi:
00:14:24 (7,8) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left.
00:31:36 (6) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left.
00:31:77 (8) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right.
00:33:20 (5,6) - 1 Level 3 grid up.
00:38:09 (8) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right.
00:45:03 (7) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right.
00:52:88 (3,4) - Those notes should be timed in 1/3.
00:54:20 (7,9) - 1 level 3 grid down.
00:55:63 (1) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left.
00:57:26 (5) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right.
00:58:08 (8) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right.
01:13:98 (6,7) - 1 Level 3 grid up.
01:19:18 (2,3) - Stack perfectly with 1's end.
01:20:81 (2,3) - Stack perfectly with 1's end.
01:33:35 (6) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right
01:33:76 (8) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left.
01:35:19 (5,6) - 1 Level 3 grid down.
01:47:01 (7) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right
01:54:76 (2,3,4) - Those notes should be timed in 1/3.
01:56:19 (7,9) - 1 Level 3 grid up.
01:57:61 (1) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right.
01:59:25 (5) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left
02:00:06 (8) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left


Sorry for the nitpicks, haha. Oh well. Starred.

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Offset is around 3420???

Yoshiiiiiiiii:

00:48:89 (6,1) - I dunno, I find this jump kind of unreasonable.
01:50:67 (4,1) - This is slightly less unreasonable, because you can release the slider early to jump to it. I'm fine with this one, maybe you should change the one at 48s to be a slider. Even Auto has a hard time of it.

Intense:
00:49:09 (1,2,3,4) - I'm not gonna grill you if you say no but could you separate the 2 and the 3 just a little bit so it's more obvious that there's a half-beat between them? And subsequent patterns. Just a bit. Also, given the name "Intense", I found it kinda easy =x

I give it a gold star though because it's cool

random bell/monkey sounds were cool too

vs. Yoshi:
00:52:76 (2,3,4,5) - 1/3 snapping needed~
01:41:70 (2,3,4,5) - ^

Intense:
00:52:35 (1,2,3,4) - See vs. Yoshi.
01:54:34 (1,2,3,4) - ^

And that's it.

UPDATE:
and ten babl

Fixed

Wow, thanks for fixing for me. <3

BTW, you might have to let me SB a pass/fail image for the break. Single sound feels weird.

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Any DK64 related image you feel is appropriate for a pass/fail? Or should I just SB the skin?

The only problem I really have is the fact that all the difficulties feel repetitive. I know that's sort of hard to avoid, but still, it looks like the same map, just repeated again. More of a design choice than a problem, though. Star.

General
Make the music louder. Too quiet now.
Overall pretty good. Sections feel copy-pasted though, making it slightly repetitively boring (especially in Normal), but it's not that major of a problem (except in Normal).

Normal
You pretty much copy-pasted chunks of this. Why not add variation by rotating or flipping?
Not many complains otherwise.

01:02:55 (x) - WTF is with this noise?!? Also, reposition break.
01:41:90 (3,5) - Align these.
02:02:49 (2,3,4,5,6) - Maybe replace this with a spinner?

Vs. Yoshi
Circle size seems a bit too large.
00:08:51 (9,10) - Move a smidgen to the right.
00:14:83 (10) - I don't like this repeat. =S
00:21:36 (1) - I dislike this spinner.
00:34:61 (1) - I dislike this spinner.
00:37:87 (7) - Move exactly betwen (6) and (8).
00:40:93 (1,1,1,1) - I dislike this colour play. Perhaps replace with two sliders.
00:47:25 (4) - Move up so it's dagonal like 00:46:44 (2).
00:51:13 (7) - Move a smidgen to the left.
00:52:76 (2,3,4) - Move down-left so (4) overlaps (5) more.
01:00:30 (4) - Move down so it's diagonal like 00:59:49 (2).
01:02:55 (x) - WTF is with this noise?!? Also, reposition break.
01:08:66 (4) - Move end a smidgen up-right.
01:10:50 (9,10) - Move a smidgin to the left.
01:11:93 (1,2) - Move up-left so (2,3) are the same distance apart as (1,2).
01:13:35 (4) - Move up.
01:15:80 (5,6,7) - Readjust distances.
01:19:16 (2,3) - Move directly under 01:18:45 (1).
01:20:90 (3) - Same for 01:20:08 (1).
01:23:34 (1) - I dislike this spinner.
01:27:63 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Readjust distances.
01:36:39 (10) - Move directly under 01:35:99 (9).
01:36:60 (1) - I dislike this spinner.
01:39:86 (7,8) - Move so (7,8) are the same distance apart as (6,7).
01:42:92 (1,1,1,1) - Same as 00:40:93 (1,1,1,1).
01:49:24 (4) - Move down so it's diagonal like 01:48:42 (2).
01:52:71 (5,6) - Move closer to (7).
01:54:75 (2,3,4) - Timing fail?
01:57:60 (1) - Move a smidgen to the right.
02:02:29 (4) - Move up so it's diagonal like 02:01:47 (2).

Intense
00:11:77 (3,4,5) - Move closer to (2).
00:12:59 (1,2,3) - Move closer to (4).
00:40:32 (6) - Eh, what?
00:59:49 (2) - Space (1,2) and (2,3) evenly.
01:00:30 (4) - Space (3,4) and (4,1) evenly.
01:02:55 (x) - WTF is with this noise?!? Also, reposition break.
01:13:76 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - Correct spacing.
01:42:31 (6) - Eh, what?
02:02:29 (4) - Space (3,4) and (4,1) evenly.

I followed some of the stuff above there. Also, quick modding lesson:

When modding, you are supposed to look for spacing inconsistencies. Inconsistencies arent 1 square off. Also, if you played the map, you would know that those "noises" are the pass/fail sounds. gg. Take this lesson to heart!

Thanks for modding

Gonna finish it tomorrow.

EDIT: http://up.ppy.sh/files/forzero.zip

Figures. I didn't hit upload on upppy last night.

SB finished? Nice.

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Sorry, gotta pop the bubble until I can get a hold of YoshiKart about the SB. Having Zerostarry try and fix it could be bad.

I'm not sure it's intentional or not, but is the section fail sound supposed to be under the passing category? I also think you should SB in a "Boooooo" or "Try Again" (i havent played DK64 in years, forgive me) for when you fail a section instead of just "Well Done!"

but yea. Nudge me in IRC, YoshiKart.

EDIT: SB wins and fails literally. Go double check, please. xD

And:

Remdawg wrote:

Having Zerostarry try and fix it could be bad.

Wow, that was mean. .__.

Dont rebubble until the combobursts are done, orz

Combobursts are done; just the matter of finalizing the comboburst sounds.

All difficulties looked okay to me. *star*

I might have to change the storyboard around a bit because I have an SB image over 800x600. (More like 2000x2000. o_O)

SB fix'd

Mod plz

Rank plz

[Normal]
01:41:69 (2,3,4,5) - space this closer, it's sooooooo out of no where.

[Yoshi]
ok

[Intense]
This has the offset 3415 and the other two are using 3420

fine.. fix and I'll bubble

bubbled

edit: bubbled

I noticed some snapping errors..around

00:49:08 (1,2,3,4) - In Yoshi's and my difficulty

They are all fixed.

Please redo the breaks for Vs. Yoshi and Normal. Fix and I rank~.
INCOMING MOGSY POST

Popping, sorry.

Normal:
-00:14:01 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
-00:24:41 (1) - ^
-00:25:23 (5) - Add a Whistle.
-00:25:64 (6) - New Combo mark goes here.
-00:28:29 (13) - Whistle goes on this.
-01:16:00 (1) - Remove the New Combo mark.
-01:26:40 (1) - ^
-01:27:21 (5) - Whistle goes here.
-01:27:62 (6) - New Combo mark goes here.
-01:30:27 (13) - Whistle goes here.
-02:02:49 (1) - Add a Finish.

Vs. Yoshi:
-00:03:41 (1) - Remove the Finish.
-00:06:67 (4) - ^
-00:08:71 (10) - Add a Whistle.
-00:09:93 (1) - Remove the Finish.
-00:17:28 (4) - Add a Finish.
-00:18:91 (4) - ^
-00:18:91 (4) - ^
-00:22:98 (1) - Remove the Finish.
-00:28:08 (9) - ^
-00:28:29 (10) - Add a Finish to the starting point.
-00:29:51 (1) - Remove the Finish.
-00:30:94 (4,5) - Remove the Whistles.
-00:31:34 (6,7,8) - Add Whistles.
-00:34:00 (9) - Whistle on starting point and slider track, Finish on the endpoint.
-00:36:44 (2,3,4) - This pattern is supposed to be in 1/3.
-01:05:40 (1) - Remove the Finish.
-01:08:66 (4) - ^
-01:10:70 (10) - Whistle goes here.
-01:11:92 (1) - Remove the Finish.
-01:13:35 (4) - Whistle goes here.
-01:19:26 (3) - Finish goes here.
-01:20:89 (3) - ^
-01:22:52 (4) - ^
-01:24:97 (1) - Remove the Finish.
-01:31:50 (1) - ^
-01:32:92 (4,5) - Remove the Whistles.
-01:33:33 (6,7,8) - Add Whistles.
-01:38:43 (2,3,4) - 1/3 pattern, not 1/4.
-01:59:23 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - What's with the spacing?
-02:04:12 (1) - Remove the Whistle.

Intense:
-The same Finish removal comments (like, the ones on the first beat of phrases) I made still apply here.
That's all I need to point out.

So, in short, NO SO FAST, STAR TAKUMA.

Hi.

Mogsy wrote:

-01:59:23 (5,6,7,8,9,10) - What's with the spacing?

Can I use a symmetrical jump once in a while?


Fixed everything but the quoted.

Fixed by new combos. Check please~

Download: Grant Kirkhope - Battle Arena (Zerostarry) [Vs. Yoshi].osu

The spacing thing is still off. First off, the spacing between 5 and 6/8 and 9 and 6 and 7/9 and 10 are not the same, and the whole rule of "no two different distances within the same combo" still applies. So sorry, but you're gonna have to change that.

Double-posting so I can bubble.

So I guess it's safe to rank now? Haha.

Just played this beatmap, and the hitsounds are actually overwhelming the music itself (Using the Ouendan 2 skin), so you might want to fix that. :\

CaptainFlameGuy wrote:

Just played this beatmap, and the hitsounds are actually overwhelming the music itself (Using the Ouendan 2 skin), so you might want to fix that. :\

This song was probably made on the default skin, so it's not the responsibility of the user if it sounds horrible on the Ouendan 2 skin. In the meantime, you can disable the Skin's Sound Samples in the Skin Selection Screen.

It's a great map, but I think you should delete the sounds... THEY ARE SO annoying, it's have much more volume than music itself!
I have to make an backup and retire here, not happened, just no sound effects

You do realize that ranked maps can't be updated like that, right?

Also, please, stop reviving really old maps just to complain on such things... You've been already warned once :/

Beuchi-chan wrote:

You do realize that ranked maps can't be updated like that, right?

Also, please, stop reviving really old maps just to complain on such things... You've been already warned once :/

Already? Where?
Well okay, I don't see the day what was uploaded, sorry!

Just look at the date of the first post. :/