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MMzz

Elite Mapper

Joined June 2009

Topic Starter

MMzz 2012-10-26T22:46:37+00:00

This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, December 07, 2012 at 4:13:26 PM

Artist: S-C-U
Title: concon
Source: jubeat
Tags: knit APPEND fox REFLEC BEAT plus limelight jukebeat -kevincela-
BPM: 190
Filesize: 2917kb
Play Time: 01:43
Difficulties Available:

Advanced (4.93 stars, 304 notes)
Basic (2.4 stars, 93 notes)
Extreme (5 stars, 434 notes)
Standard (3.66 stars, 118 notes)

Download: S-C-U - concon
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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This BG is amazing and Sync is stupid. <3

Extreme - 100%
Advanced - 100% (By -kevincela-)
Standard - 100%
Basic - 100%
Easy - 100%

NOW IN PENDING! (11/12/12)
New mp3 11/12/12.
New BG (Not as bright) 12/2/12

11/26/12 - The original standard in now gone. The Basic is now the new Standard and I made a new Basic.

Mod List:
11/12/12 - Static Noise Bird
11/12/12 - eLtigreXXx
11/12/12 - jonathanlfj
11/13/12 - Sekai-nyan
11/30/12 - BeatofIke
12/2/12 - Roddie
12/7/12 - lolcubes

Last edited by MMzz 2012-12-07T21:13:38+00:00, edited 24 times in total.

Sync

osu! Alumni

1,575 posts

Joined April 2011

Sync 2012-10-26T22:53:02+00:00

amazing map

horrible bg

-kevincela-

Elite Mapper

2,793 posts

Joined February 2010

-kevincela- 2012-11-12T17:05:29+00:00

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SPOILER

osu file format v10

[General]
AudioFilename: concon.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 61209
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Normal
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 578,5630,10683,15735,20788,30893,40999,56156,61209,81420,86472,91525,96578,101630,103209
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:concon
TitleUnicode:concon
Artist:S-C-U
ArtistUnicode:S-C-U
Creator:MMzz
Version:Advanced
Source:jubeat
Tags:knit APPEND fox REFLEC BEAT plus limelight jukebeat
BeatmapID:0
BeatmapSetID:62951

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"concon.jpg"
//Break Periods
2,20988,29512
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

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271,182,73525,2,0,P|276:216|308:244,1,70,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
380,264,73841,5,0,0:0:0
452,224,73999,2,0,P|456:184,2,35,0|0|8,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
452,308,74314,1,0,0:0:0
452,308,74393,1,0,0:0:0
452,308,74472,2,0,P|428:336|392:348,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
308,224,74788,2,0,P|332:196|368:184,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
304,304,75104,6,0,P|260:290|232:240,1,105,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
408,124,75578,2,0,P|435:160|428:218,1,105,4|4,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
304,304,76051,1,0,0:0:0
308,224,76209,1,0,0:0:0
376,268,76367,6,0,P|380:336|328:380,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
244,368,76841,2,0,P|204:380,2,35
304,304,77156,2,0,P|276:284|240:284,1,70,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
160,308,77472,6,0,P|92:312|56:256,1,140,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
108,156,77946,2,0,P|176:152|212:208,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
132,232,78420,1,0,0:0:0
56,256,78578,1,8,0:0:0
32,176,78735,1,0,0:0:0
108,156,78893,5,2,0:0:0
204,200,79051,1,0,0:0:0
160,304,79209,1,0,0:0:0
56,256,79367,1,2,0:0:0
404,156,79683,5,2,0:3:0
308,200,79841,1,0,0:0:0
352,304,79999,1,0,0:0:0
456,256,80157,1,2,0:3:0
256,68,81420,5,4,0:0:0
428,328,83472,6,0,P|360:320|324:260,1,140,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
408,244,83946,1,4,0:0:0
84,56,85999,6,0,P|152:64|188:124,1,140,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
104,140,86472,6,0,P|88:292,1,140,4|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
168,312,86946,2,0,P|180:232|180:232|220:184,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
294,186,87420,2,0,P|332:232|332:232|344:312,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
422,279,87894,2,0,P|408:140,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
364,68,88367,2,0,P|396:52|432:60,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
324,140,88683,2,0,P|308:132|296:120,3,35,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
324,140,88999,6,0,P|332:208|332:208|336:248|300:276,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
206,271,89472,2,0,P|176:248|180:208|180:208|188:140,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
220,64,89946,2,0,P|256:56|292:64,1,70,0|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
324,140,90262,6,0,P|368:152,3,35,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
388,120,90578,2,0,P|412:160,3,35,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
448,140,90893,2,0,P|456:180,3,35,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
496,172,91209,2,0,P|484:208,3,35,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
500,244,91525,6,0,P|488:276|456:296,1,70,4|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
332,280,91841,2,0,P|344:248|376:228,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
380,344,92156,2,0,P|332:364|284:344,2,105,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
444,288,92788,1,0,0:0:0
460,280,92867,1,0,0:0:0
476,272,92946,2,0,P|516:276,6,35,0|0|8|0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
412,196,93578,1,0,0:0:0
352,140,93735,2,0,P|364:64,1,70,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
328,224,94051,5,0,0:0:0
256,268,94209,1,0,0:0:0
188,220,94367,1,8,0:0:0
256,168,94525,1,0,0:0:0
304,100,94683,2,0,P|256:80|208:100,2,105,2|2|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
372,148,95314,1,0,0:0:0
384,168,95393,1,0,0:0:0
404,180,95472,2,0,P|420:188|436:188,6,35,0|0|8|0|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
448,96,96104,5,0,0:0:0
508,244,96262,1,8,0:0:0
388,304,96420,1,0,0:0:0
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212,231,97051,2,0,P|212:300|212:300|212:336|184:364,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
128,300,97525,2,0,P|128:231|128:231|128:195|156:167,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
356,167,97999,2,0,P|384:195|384:231|384:231|384:300,1,140,0|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
308,336,98472,2,0,P|288:348|260:348,3,35
235,349,98788,2,0,P|220:348|204:336,3,35,8|0|0|0,0:0|0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
168,272,99104,6,0,P|128:200,1,70,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
168,64,99420,2,0,P|208:136,1,70,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
310,125,99735,2,0,P|344:64,1,70,2|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
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256,344,100367,1,2,0:0:0
256,192,100446,12,0,101314,0:0:0
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92,200,102104,2,0,P|160:212|216:160,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
256,96,102578,1,0,0:0:0
300,169,102735,2,0,P|352:212|420:200,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
376,128,103209,1,2,0:0:0

Birdy

5,733 posts

Joined April 2011

Birdy 2012-11-12T19:28:12+00:00

Stupid Mitten-kun, stop being so flawless.
So yeah, have few little "IMO" suggestions/nazi mod things/whatever.

[General]
Basic feels like Normal and Standard like something, Normal+ maybe. Please try to make Basic a bit easier.
Lower the BG's saturation or something. It's not too friendly for eyes and brain.

[Basic]
That, what was said on General part.
00:43:617 (1) - Whistle to slider start
00:54:354 (2) - 1 square right & up
01:18:985 (1,2) - 1 square down & right

[Standard]
00:10:143 - Add something?
00:43:617 (1) - Whistle to slider start
01:37:143 (2,3,4,5) - Eeeeeeh, is this really okay for a Normal/Standard?

[Extreme]
00:43:617 (1) - Whistle to slider start

Heh~
/me escapes

Kanye West

2,222 posts

Joined July 2011

Kanye West 2012-11-12T19:34:40+00:00

Posting~

I'll mod this, but not this week.

Mercurial

Mercurial 2012-11-12T19:38:14+00:00

Modding~

I'll post this, but not this month.

KokoroStudiox3

1,272 posts

Joined April 2011

KokoroStudiox3 2012-11-12T19:54:11+00:00

M4M :3
if you want you can use these

BG?

[basic]
00:35:722 (1) - clap ? combined with this 00:40:459 -
01:41:722 - wistle 01:43:301 ?

[standar]
00:39:670 (2) - Consider adding a NC here, since this note follows a spinner.

[extreme]
00:20:880 finish ?
nice map and nice song

jonathanlfj

Elite Mapper

2,568 posts

Joined February 2010

jonathanlfj 2012-11-12T20:59:07+00:00

m4m here i come~
this sound very familiar...there is a ranked version isnt there

Black is suggestion
Blue is highly recommended
Red is unrankable

[General]
3.45 star rating for Basic (Easy). Sure that it's fine?
everything else seems fine

[Basic]
Personally think the sv for this diff is too high (same sv as Standard?)...maybe that is the main reason why star rating is so high as well. Consider reducing to 1.0x sv
00:20:248 (3) - delete this and extend 00:19:459 (2) to be a repeat slider ending at 00:20:406 (there is a sound there). star rating goes down \o/
00:20:880 (1) - add whistle
00:35:722 (1) - ^
00:46:143 (1,2,3,4) - make this the same patter as 00:56:248 (1,2,3)
01:15:196 (2,3,1) - this part is wayy too hard for newbie players...i would delete 01:16:143 (3) and extend 01:15:196 (2) by one more repeat
01:39:196 (1) - whistle
01:43:143 (1) - whistle on slider end

[Standard]
00:32:406 (5,6) - i am not a fan of this type of overlap. consider a more linear flow for short to long slider patterns

SPOILER

00:34:933 (4,5) - ^
00:35:722 (1) - add whistle
00:47:091 (3) - whistle on head (consistent with 00:49:617 (3))
00:54:354 (2) - bring this a bit inside (1 or 2 grids)
01:01:301 (1) - add finish to slider head
01:14:722 (3,4) - a bit confusing, consider combining it into a repeat slider
01:39:196 (1) - whistle
01:43:143 (1) - whistle on slider end

[Advanced]
00:10:459 (4,1,2,3,4) - make this into a star? looks better imo
00:37:143 (6) - move the second node 1 grid up and 1 grid right for perfect overlap (nazi for perfection)
00:51:196 (1) - use finish? I hear a finish in the background
00:57:670 (4) - remove the finish, or shorten the slider to 00:57:827 because that's where the finish actually is (if u shorten the slider u can add a note at 00:57:906 to compensate)
01:19:301 (3) - one grid down to overlap position of 01:17:564 (1)
01:19:775 (1,2,3,4) - make it the same hitsounding pattern as 01:18:985 (1,2,3,4)? and also move 01:20:091 (3) 1 grid down
01:39:196 (1,2,3,4,5) - dat whistle...maybe take it off for all the slider ends? sounds better imo

[Extreme]
00:20:880 (8) - whistle
00:40:775 (5,1) - 6.33x spacing with 1/8 slider o_O, perhaps take one repeat off of 00:40:775 (5) or bring the two closer
00:44:880 (3) - one grid down and one grid left, looks better imo
00:46:933 (5) - NC
00:49:459 (5) - ^
01:13:143 (3) - one grid left and one grid up for overlap with 01:13:933 (1)
01:39:827 (1,2,3,4) - make this square slightly smaller so 01:40:301 (4) overlaps 01:39:196 (1)
srry if i went too nazi on this, always find next level difficulties hard to mod in the general sense

That is about it, Great mapset and good luck on ranking ^_^

MMzz

Elite Mapper

3,979 posts

Joined June 2009

Topic Starter

MMzz 2012-11-12T22:03:52+00:00

Static Noise Bird wrote:
Stupid Mitten-kun, stop being so flawless.
So yeah, have few little "IMO" suggestions/nazi mod things/whatever.

[General]
Basic feels like Normal and Standard like something, Normal+ maybe. Please try to make Basic a bit easier. I know, and this intentional. I'd rather have my lower level diffs be interesting (Not just a bunch of 1/1 sliders and circles like most people do.) and have a closer curve. That means adding a little more difficulty to the set.
Lower the BG's saturation or something. It's not too friendly for eyes and brain. This is what fun spoiler is for, and out of various people I've asked about the BG there haven't been issues.

[Basic]
That, what was said on General part.
00:43:617 (1) - Whistle to slider start Sounds good.
00:54:354 (2) - 1 square right & up I'd prefer to keep it how I have it. It keeps the tail of 1, this note and 3 linear.
01:18:985 (1,2) - 1 square down & right Why? They blanket perfectly.

[Standard]
00:10:143 - Add something? Keeping this a small break because of the previous section. It's a little complicated and it feels natural to stop here. The only reason it's extended on the repeated section is because it feeds into a break.
00:43:617 (1) - Whistle to slider start Sounds good.
01:37:143 (2,3,4,5) - Eeeeeeh, is this really okay for a Normal/Standard? I believe so. By this point the player understands how these short sliders work from my use in them before. They also should understand how multiple of them work. (00:08:564 (2,3) - ) Now they might not get this the first time around but no beginner gets anything first time around. So if they take the time to focus in on everything (and they are probably doing that anyways.) they should easily adapt and understand it only takes 1/1 clicks to complete these. And with the sliderball's border being huge they won't result in breaks. (Just like how these work in Insane diffs when people use them in 1/4.)

[Extreme]
00:43:617 (1) - Whistle to slider start I actually don't like the sound of it in this diff because of the previous whistles and I won't change those.

Heh~
/me escapes

eLtigreXXx wrote:
M4M :3
if you want you can use these
BG?

[basic]
00:35:722 (1) - clap ? combined with this 00:40:459 - I want to keep this part calm like the song is so claps won't be needed. The only reason the other claps are there is because of the music presence.
01:41:722 - wistle 01:43:301 ? The pitch of the melody here is rather low and adding a whistle would have no rhythmical value, so no.

[standar]
00:39:670 (2) - Consider adding a NC here, since this note follows a spinner. Forgot about that. Done.

[extreme]
00:20:880 finish ? No, way to quite for finisher use! and there is no finish sound here.
nice map and nice song

jonathanlfj wrote:
m4m here i come~
this sound very familiar...there is a ranked version isnt there

Black is suggestion
Blue is highly recommended
Red is unrankable

[General]
3.45 star rating for Basic (Easy). Sure that it's fine? Star rating is very outdated with current mapping styles so this is fine. (And a diff under 3.00 is no longer required for ranking so as long as the BAT/MAT approves it's difficulty it's fine.)
everything else seems fine

[Basic]
Personally think the sv for this diff is too high (same sv as Standard?)...maybe that is the main reason why star rating is so high as well. Consider reducing to 1.0x sv It's not going to be needed. Pay attention to the sliderball's border when the map plays. It's almost always convering the whole slider from the very start. (Except for the very long sliders, but even at that point it's still quite large.)
00:20:248 (3) - delete this and extend 00:19:459 (2) to be a repeat slider ending at 00:20:406 (there is a sound there). star rating goes down \o/ Personally my pattern grants a better feel to the music and keeps the pattern consistent. For example 00:15:827 (1,2) - , at the end of 2 is goes back into the 1/2 beat and this is done every time prior aswell. So instead of changing up the beat when it's not necessary I'll keep my pattern.
00:20:880 (1) - add whistle I don't see a reason to do so.
00:35:722 (1) - ^ From the beats this note hits the melody going high-low-high, and it's intuitive to my previous whistle patterns.
00:46:143 (1,2,3,4) - make this the same patter as 00:56:248 (1,2,3) I'm not sure why this would be needed. This pattern resembles the drum beat this current point then the pattern at the future point does.
01:15:196 (2,3,1) - this part is wayy too hard for newbie players...i would delete 01:16:143 (3) and extend 01:15:196 (2) by one more repeat. Sure the part is tricky but it's not THAT hard. If anything adding another repeat would be more difficult because newbies aren't going to think to look for another repeat past 3 beats. Yes I know I used 4 but there isn't much I can do. By now the player should notice the difference in beat according to slider length. So just like I told SNB in the above quote they won't understand it at first, but at the same time it's not to complicated for them to pick up.
01:39:196 (1) - whistle No, I stated why in above quotes when someone made the same suggestion.
01:43:143 (1) - whistle on slider end I'm not enjoying the way it sounds.

[Standard]
00:32:406 (5,6) - i am not a fan of this type of overlap. consider a more linear flow for short to long slider patterns
SPOILER
I don't like the way that looks. I guess I have to pull the "this is my style" card but it truly is. This flows perfectly fine either way as the player doesn't need to move their slider at all so they can move over to the next slider with more ease if you think about it. I also think this is visually pleasing.
00:34:933 (4,5) - ^
00:35:722 (1) - add whistle No. It's not needed.
00:47:091 (3) - whistle on head (consistent with 00:49:617 (3)) Those notes have more whistles because of the pitch increase.
00:54:354 (2) - bring this a bit inside (1 or 2 grids) No, the more moved out the more it looks like the previous slider isn't easing into it.
01:01:301 (1) - add finish to slider head Guess I forgot this.
01:14:722 (3,4) - a bit confusing, consider combining it into a repeat slider. No, trying to spread the difficulty out from the easy.
01:39:196 (1) - whistle Explained this in above quotes.
01:43:143 (1) - whistle on slider end ^

[Extreme]
00:20:880 (8) - whistle. No, the beat is dropping here so the whistle just sounds odd.
00:40:775 (5,1) - 6.33x spacing with 1/8 slider o_O, perhaps take one repeat off of 00:40:775 (5) or bring the two closer. This isn't very hard to hit.(And I suck at standard) This will also effect the taiko/ctb conversion oddly.
00:44:880 (3) - one grid down and one grid left, looks better imo Looks like it breaks the triangle, so no.
00:46:933 (5) - NC I was a little hesitant at this when I first mapped it because I thought it would be a little spammy, but now I like it.
00:49:459 (5) - ^
01:13:143 (3) - one grid left and one grid up for overlap with 01:13:933 (1) They are overlapped already?
01:39:827 (1,2,3,4) - make this square slightly smaller so 01:40:301 (4) overlaps 01:39:196 (1) Good idea.
srry if i went too nazi on this, always find next level difficulties hard to mod in the general sense

That is about it, Great mapset and good luck on ranking ^_^

Thanks for the mods guys.

BeatofIke

4,166 posts

Joined September 2011

BeatofIke 2012-11-13T03:07:35+00:00

Gives Star! Good Luck!

-kevincela-

Elite Mapper

2,793 posts

Joined February 2010

-kevincela- 2012-11-13T14:30:58+00:00

jonathanlfj wrote:
[Advanced]
00:10:459 (4,1,2,3,4) - make this into a star? looks better imo No,I like how this arc pattern flows. A star one would definitely break the mapping style used there
00:37:143 (6) - move the second node 1 grid up and 1 grid right for perfect overlap (nazi for perfection) There isn't really any good reason to do that... :<
00:51:196 (1) - use finish? I hear a finish in the background You're right,dunno why I used a whistle there...
00:57:670 (4) - remove the finish, or shorten the slider to 00:57:827 because that's where the finish actually is (if u shorten the slider u can add a note at 00:57:906 to compensate) No, it's to follow the plate's held (and that sound does not really begin 1/4 before as you stated)
01:19:301 (3) - one grid down to overlap position of 01:17:564 (1) That's unneded,and I have to rework my square if I do that
01:19:775 (1,2,3,4) - make it the same hitsounding pattern as 01:18:985 (1,2,3,4)? and also move 01:20:091 (3) 1 grid down It actually HAS the same hitsounding of the other pattern,and I stated above I'm not going to change that other thing.
01:39:196 (1,2,3,4,5) - dat whistle...maybe take it off for all the slider ends? sounds better imo but I like them

To MMzz: as the only change with this mod is actually just a finish it would be easier if you fix it by yourself by replacing 00:51:196 (1) - 's whistle with a finish instead

Also,thanks for the mod!

MMzz

Elite Mapper

3,979 posts

Joined June 2009

Topic Starter

MMzz 2012-11-13T17:38:15+00:00

Updated Kevin's diff.

Enna Alouette

6,376 posts

Joined February 2011

Enna Alouette 2012-11-13T18:00:14+00:00

M4M :3 and hi MMzz ~~

Basic:

00:53:722 (1) - you forgot a finish on the start of this slider o.o
01:08:880 (1) - remove this nc because it's too short, and i dont see any reason to add it~
01:15:196 (2) - so many revers on this might confuse some players >< and it's hard to get, maybe change it to something else?

The other diff's are fine~perfect map as always and btw dont kdosu this~~~

MMzz

Elite Mapper

3,979 posts

Joined June 2009

Topic Starter

MMzz 2012-11-14T00:20:59+00:00

Sekai-nyan wrote:
M4M :3 and hi MMzz ~~

Basic:
00:53:722 (1) - you forgot a finish on the start of this slider o.o Forgot? There is no finish sound to display in the music!
01:08:880 (1) - remove this nc because it's too short, and i dont see any reason to add it~ I like to keep my combos on the downbeat, even if it results them being super short like this they are still correct.
01:15:196 (2) - so many revers on this might confuse some players >< and it's hard to get, maybe change it to something else? I'll just make it some notes, enough people have said something about it. xD

The other diff's are fine~perfect map as always and btw dont kdosu this~~~

-kevincela-

Elite Mapper

2,793 posts

Joined February 2010

-kevincela- 2012-11-16T17:00:29+00:00

Made some fixes by myself about some strange hitsounding~

SPOILER

osu file format v10

[General]
AudioFilename: concon.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 1500
PreviewTime: 61209
Countdown: 1
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.7
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1

[Editor]
Bookmarks: 578,5630,10683,15735,20788,30893,40999,56156,61209,81420,86472,91525,96578,101630,103209
DistanceSpacing: 1.2
BeatDivisor: 4
GridSize: 4

[Metadata]
Title:concon
TitleUnicode:concon
Artist:S-C-U
ArtistUnicode:S-C-U
Creator:MMzz
Version:Advanced
Source:jubeat
Tags:knit APPEND fox REFLEC BEAT plus limelight jukebeat -kevincela-
BeatmapID:186389
BeatmapSetID:62951

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:5
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:6
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:1.4
SliderTickRate:1

[Events]
//Background and Video events
0,0,"concon.jpg"
//Break Periods
2,21080,29604
//Storyboard Layer 0 (Background)
//Storyboard Layer 1 (Fail)
//Storyboard Layer 2 (Pass)
//Storyboard Layer 3 (Foreground)
//Storyboard Sound Samples
//Background Colour Transformations
3,100,163,162,255

[TimingPoints]
670,315.789473684211,4,2,1,80,1,0
30354,-100,4,2,0,80,0,0
56248,-100,4,2,1,80,0,0
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BeatofIke

4,166 posts

Joined September 2011

BeatofIke 2012-11-29T12:07:25+00:00

Hello MMzz! Mod Request from In-Game! Nothing much to say really.

[General]
-> Nothing to point out!

[Basic]
-> Good

[Standard]
-> 01:42:827 (1) - Add Note?

[Advanced]
-> The finish at the end of this slider sounds strange to me. I suggest removing the finish and add a soft whistle instead.

[Extreme]
-> (suggestion) Approach Rate 8. plays better imo.

Very Soild Map. Excellent rhythm choice, hitsound usuage, and overall flow. A high change of playability.
I rate this map 10 out of 10. Good Luck!

MMzz

Elite Mapper

3,979 posts

Joined June 2009

Topic Starter

MMzz 2012-11-30T19:55:54+00:00

BeatofIke wrote:
Hello MMzz! Mod Request from In-Game! Nothing much to say really.

[General]
-> Nothing to point out!

[Basic]
-> Good

[Standard]
-> 01:42:827 (1) - Add Note? No, I think the slider works just as well.

[Advanced]
-> The finish at the end of this slider sounds strange to me. I suggest removing the finish and add a soft whistle instead. Where?

[Extreme]
-> (suggestion) Approach Rate 8. plays better imo. Nooooooo, AR8 at this speed and with all the jumps is just hell.

Very Soild Map. Excellent rhythm choice, hitsound usuage, and overall flow. A high change of playability.
I rate this map 10 out of 10. Good Luck!

Ty for mod.

BeatofIke

4,166 posts

Joined September 2011

BeatofIke 2012-11-30T21:56:11+00:00

***Shoots 2 stars back.
Thanks anyway.

Roddie

osu! Alumni

1,468 posts

Joined June 2009

Roddie 2012-12-03T02:56:38+00:00

General

Uncheck the countdown. Since there is no countdown in this mapset, it's useless.

Basic

00:20:880 (x)-It doesn't hurt to add a note here, man. It would feel awkward without it before the break.
00:38:564-Would be a good idea to add a break here?
01:21:591-Add a break here since you've done that in Standard and Extreme.
01:24:117-^

Standard

Nothing wrong here.

Advanced

00:57:670(4, 1)-I don't know about you but this slider sounds bad and it doesn't have a good rhythm to it, you know? Rearrange to something.
01:21:591-Add a break here since you've done that in Standard and Extreme.
01:24:117-^

Extreme

Nothing wrong here too. lol

Good job, MMzz. Have a star on me. Good luck!

Cyclohexane

osu! Alumni

4,568 posts

Joined May 2009

Cyclohexane 2012-12-03T03:10:56+00:00

WHY
YOU
NO
MAP
EVERYTHING

:UUUUUUUUUUUU

MMzz

Elite Mapper

3,979 posts

Joined June 2009

Topic Starter

MMzz 2012-12-03T03:16:57+00:00

Applied every @Roddie.
Waiting for Kevin to look at the mod.

-kevincela-

Elite Mapper

2,793 posts

Joined February 2010

-kevincela- 2012-12-03T12:39:05+00:00

Roddie wrote:
Advanced
00:57:670(4, 1)-I don't know about you but this slider sounds bad and it doesn't have a good rhythm to it, you know? Rearrange to something. It could seem strange at first,but imho it fits. I used a 3/4 slider here to follow the cymbals' held,so I really do not find any rhythmical problems here
01:21:591-Add a break here since you've done that in Standard and Extreme. Done
01:24:117-^ ^

Thanks for the mod

SPOILER

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Artist:S-C-U
ArtistUnicode:S-C-U
Creator:MMzz
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Tags:knit APPEND fox REFLEC BEAT plus limelight jukebeat -kevincela-
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lolcubes

osu! Alumni

4,437 posts

Joined November 2010

lolcubes 2012-12-06T22:20:44+00:00

hi

[General]
Timing: Offset is a little early, +10 does the trick.

[Extreme]
*00:05:722 (1) - How about a finish at the start? It's in the music as well so it fits nicely and helps the player find the downbeat! (you did this at 00:15:827 (1) so I guess it's for the sake of consistency too)
*00:20:406 (5,6,7,8) - Since there is no melody here anymore, I would suggest a swap to normal hitsounds but reduced volume, at least for the beats 5 and 7, because there are beats in the music and this would create some nice contrast.
*00:42:827 (4) - Stack on the upcoming slider? It has the same pitch as the slider start so it would make sense.
*01:10:143 (3,4,5) - I guess this can work for the gameplay reasons, but the spot where the note 4 is located the melody is 1/6, however just having 2 1/6 circles could be unreadable and weird, so maybe think of a different pattern? Dunno up to you, I like to follow the music more. This same thing occurs at 01:20:406 (4,5,6) as well.

[Advanced]
*00:11:880 (2) - I expected a normal hit instead of a soft at the slider end, it fits the music better too.
*00:57:670 (4) - This finish is really really weird, especially cause it's on such a tick. Usually such cymbal crashes can work for highlights or downbeats, but I really don't like it here, it messes with the rhythm.
*01:28:775 (6) - Due to the position it could be hard to notice it's actually a double repeater because this placement logic usually fits single repeaters. Ctrl+g?
*01:40:538 (1) - Try not to use spinners on 1/4 ticks unless absolutely necessary (for the spin bonus), because of mania. I would suggest to actually remove 01:40:459 (5) since it's not used in Extreme diff, but moving it to 01:40:617 works as well.

[Standard]
*OD+1? Better spread.
*00:01:459 (2) - Not sure if missing a normal hit at the end or not. Sounds better with it, even despite the possible variety.
*01:43:143 (1) - Whistle at the end? (you have this in extreme diff, so does kevincela in his diff)

[Basic]
*00:46:143 (1,2) - Don't like this rhythm, it doesn't fit the music well. Maybe just remove 2 and extend 1 to 00:46:617? You can also add a repeat, that way it would follow the "vocals" accurately and would be more intuitive to play. Same applies to 00:48:670 (1,2).
*00:59:722 (2,3,1) - I think this objects/rhythm are a bit too advanced for easy diffs, the music is chaotic and I don't think rhythms sense would help a person here. You could make it easier by reversing the object logic, first a circle then a slider.
*01:43:143 (1) - Whistle at the end? (you have this in extreme diff, so does kevincela in his diff)

That's all, mostly a bunch of suggestions. Can bubble once you see and apply things you want.

-kevincela-

Elite Mapper

2,793 posts

Joined February 2010

-kevincela- 2012-12-07T16:52:07+00:00

Well,all fixed. Thanks lolcubes \o/
And call me just Kevin xD

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136,128,101722,6,0,P|120:96|84:80,2,70,0|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0
92,200,102196,2,0,P|160:212|216:160,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
256,96,102670,1,0,0:0:0
300,169,102827,2,0,P|352:212|420:200,1,140,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0
376,128,103301,1,2,0:0:0

MMzz

Elite Mapper

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Topic Starter

MMzz 2012-12-07T17:18:36+00:00

Applied everything. I brought out the 1/6 you talked about in Extreme, if you feel I should make them kickbacks instead of stacks let me know.

lolcubes

osu! Alumni

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Joined November 2010

lolcubes 2012-12-07T18:01:15+00:00

Ta-daaaah.

Also a small observation.

Dat post count.

Sync

osu! Alumni

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Joined April 2011

Sync 2012-12-07T21:18:59+00:00

log

15:10 Sync: 01:33:048 (6) - advanced
15:10 Sync: not sure if I like these slider ticks
15:10 Sync: i mean
15:10 Sync: kick sliders
15:10 Sync: sounds awkward, I had the same problem
15:10 Sync: not sure
15:11 MMzz: idk
15:11 MMzz: seems fine to me
15:11 Sync: eh
15:11 Sync: w/e
15:11 Sync: 00:12:364 (3) - normal
15:11 MMzz: would rather is be 2 sliders
15:11 Sync: why is this spaced out so far when
15:11 MMzz: but w/e
15:11 Sync: 00:14:890 (3) -
15:11 Sync: and 00:02:258 (3) -
15:11 Sync: are spaced closely
15:11 Sync: seems condfusing
15:11 MMzz: idk it broke
15:12 Sync: fix
15:12 MMzz: i am
15:12 MMzz: anything else
15:12 Sync: no
15:13 MMzz: updated

Great map as always. More S-C-U~~

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Aurele

osu! Alumni

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Aurele 2012-12-07T21:20:23+00:00

Congratz

Enna Alouette

6,376 posts

Joined February 2011

Enna Alouette 2012-12-07T21:20:42+00:00

Gratz MMzz =w=//