This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on April 25, 2009 at 1:46:09 AM

Artist: Hedley
Title: Narcissist
Tags: punk rock famous last words
BPM: 174
Filesize: 5056kb
Play Time: 03:02
Difficulties Available:

1. Hard (3,38 stars, 233 notes)
2. Insane (4,7 stars, 303 notes)
3. Normal (3,09 stars, 136 notes)

Download: Hedley - Narcissist
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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One of my favourite songs by the Canadian band Hedley.
Normal is a fairly easy Normal
Hard is a fairly easy Hard
Insane.. I think fits =P

First of all, cool song . BPM and offset look great. Also, timing sections look properly arranged.

Hitsounds are well done and I really like the big circle slider .

00:30:55 (1) - This slider ALMOST sounds late to the beat, if you pull its length down to 31:241 and make it repeat one more time I think it sounds better (this might just be preference)

00:49:86 (5) - Move the end of this to the white line directly behind it (i.e. 050:552)

I personally think this sounds better with slider-tick 2 and it makes your score a little more proportionate to the song. Experiment and see what you like best!

Don't forget to put tags on this in song info and make at least another difficulty

Keep up the great mapping

First of all, cool song . BPM and offset look great. Also, timing sections look properly arranged.

Hitsounds are well done and I really like the big circle slider .

Thank you very much!

00:30:55 (1) - This slider ALMOST sounds late to the beat, if you pull its length down to 31:241 and make it repeat one more time I think it sounds better (this might just be preference)

I kind of see what you mean, but I sort of like the syncopated-ness, and I set it up to portray the "reflection in the glass" in that part. If anyone else has a problem with it though then I guess I could change it

00:49:86 (5) - Move the end of this to the white line directly behind it (i.e. 050:552)

I'm a little unsure of what you mean here, could you clarify? (post a screenshot perhaps?)

I personally think this sounds better with slider-tick 2 and it makes your score a little more proportionate to the song. Experiment and see what you like best!

I tried it and it is kind of interesting, I'll keep it for a bit and see if it rubs off on me.

Don't forget to put tags on this in song info and make at least another difficulty

Will do Although, I'm not sure whether to call this difficulty Normal or Hard, so I want to get that sorted out before making an Easy/Insane..

Keep up the great mapping

Thanks, I'll certainly try I've kind of been hooked on it lately.. much to my university workload's dismay...

Glad I could help a bit!

00:49:86 (5) - You fixed it! I just meant move the end of the slider to the white line.



(stops typing to test)

Andddd, everything sounds really good!

Maybe call this Hard? Well actually I'm not even sure. I'll leave it up to you, but I will say it's a little harder than a Normal beatmap.

All right, Normal is now Hard, there is a new Normal, and Insane is on the way

I cut Normal off right before the slow part, hope that's ok.. also I tried 2x tick rate with Normal but it just didn't feel right to me.

Just a question about my Insane so far, after the first chorus I went from mapping strictly to the lyrics (like Hard) to mapping to a rhythm as well as the lyrics. Is what I have OK, or should I stick to one or the other?

It's perfectly okay as long as it makes sense and you transition well. If it isn't easy to follow don't do it.

If it makes sense to you it most likely will make sense. Just put yourself in someone else's shoes.

I forgot to star this! Fixed!

All right, This map is officially complete and ready for modding!

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[Normal]
00:29:17 (1) - flip this so that it isnt covered by the preceding notes
01:06:93 (1) - stack the end of this neatly under the end of the previous 1
01:50:55 (1) - remove the break after this. it isnt necessary...and the other one after the next spinner
nice slider art btw


[Hard]
00:41:24 (5,6) - these two look kinda ugly with 5 covering 6
01:44:34 (6) - looks bad underneath 2 and 3
02:04:69 (1) - this slow section drains like 1/4 of your HP bar


[Insane]
00:29:68 (5) - stack this more neatly under the end of the prev. slider
00:47:79 (3) - ^
01:25:55 (8,9) - sounds weird
01:29:51 (4) - stack end under the start of 3!
01:47:79 (1) - looks ugly partly covered by 2 and 3
01:50:55 (1,1,1) - it would be great if you could just put a few beats between these spinners instead of breaks
02:47:79 (7) - stack neatly under 5
03:02:62 (1,1,1) - make this all one spinner ^-^ the random spinner ends are annoying~


have a nice shiny star

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Nice, you get a star for this one.

Only thing that stuck out to me as potentially problematic was at 2:44:347 in Hard. The spacing seems pretty close as compared to the rest of the section. Other than that, I didn't have any problems. I particularly liked what you did with the slowdown, it's one of the best examples of how slowdowns SHOULD be used.

Yeah the closeness there was intentional, I think it helps build the tension at the end.

Thanks for the comments

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OK, these are the only things I have issues with
Normal:
01:16:93 (3) - Not distance snapped correctly, but moving it INSIDE the slider would be a bad idea imo... EDIT: In thinking this over, you could probably disregard this comment.
Disregarded

01:17:44 (1) - Not distance snapped correctly, this should be near the right side of the play field
erm, I checked this and the snap was fine.. maybe this was with your above change?

Hard:
02:15:72 (1) - Extend this to 02:17:795, sounds better to me
idk, this sounds late to me..

02:29:17 (1) - Mixed feelings about an extremely long spinner like this.
I'll keep it for now, I like the build-up here

02:55:89 (1,2,3,4) - Try not to stack different rhythms like this
02:58:65 (1,2,3,4) - And these.
If it was the middle of the song or so then I would probably agree here, but I think by now the player has a good idea of the rhythm here and these stacks would be intuitive. Plus I'm kind of attached to the pattern visually..

Insane:
02:20:89 (5,6,7) - These should be farther apart, imo
I want to stick with the slowed down effect here, and idk, I just like how this feels

02:55:89 (1,2,3,4) - (in regards to the same spot on [Hard] Aaaannnd these.
02:58:65 (1,2,3,4) - aaaaaaannd these.
02:58:65 (1,2,3,4) - Yea, i think you get the point.
Same as hard

03:02:62 (1,1,1) - Not too fond of the spinner spam here...
blahh.. fine two votes in a row for this so I'll merge them (again lol)

I made the rest of your suggestions I kind of feel bad for shutting so many of these down but I'm just very pleased with my final product here, and I don't want to make too many changes unless they are really necessary. If any other BATs feel strongly about any of these changes that I didn't make then I will go back and do them, but for now I'm gonna hold out on them.'

Thanks for the mod! I really do appreciate it. Congrats on your new BAT status
RemmyEDIT: Thanks Much <3

[Normal]

00:08:82 (1) - Too close to previous note.
00:20:20 (2) - Consider flipping.
01:17:44 (1) - More circular?

[Hard]

00:12:62 (9,10) - Center
02:20:89 (5,6,7) - I think this is fine, but you may want to consider spacing it out.

[Insane]

01:17:44 (1) - Now THAT's what I'm talking about!

Pretty good - starred.

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Changed what I thought was necessary ^_^ ALthough I think a lot of the stacking issues you brought up are really only noticable in the editor.

I DO really like your suggestion w/ the cresendo in Insane, but how do I increase the volume of the sampleset when it's already at max volume?

Thanks!

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Download: Tarkan - Dudu (HellDawn) [Easy].osu

Offset:204

[Easy]
The Radial size of hit circles and slider is too high.
38:830(1)-> A bit ugly.

[Insane]
1:50:564~1:58:847 Breaks are un-necessary (There is no break on Easy&Hard)

Have a shiny star~

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Song sounds cool.

[General]
- Try placing an appropiate Preview point by going to Menu -> Timing -> Set Current Point as Preview. Maybe you can place it at 00:35:551 or something ;o
- Consider placing Finishes on every spinner.
- I'm not sure, but I think there are some unsnapped beats. Try Resnap all notes.

[Normal]
00:06:93 (3) - Looks abit ugly. :p
00:41:24 (4,6) - Consider stacking these.
00:42:96 (8,9) - ^
01:15:38 (2,3) - ^
01:35:03 (1,4) - ^

[Hard]
00:51:24 (1,1,1,1) - Symmetry!! D< (Relative to the Grid) (Of course, this is only a suggestion :p)

[Insane]
00:41:58 (1) - umm it's not snapped to the grid and looks ugly D:
01:02:10 (4,6) - Consider stacking these.
01:36:58 (8) - umm it's not snapped to the grid and looks ugly D:

So I see you don't like stacking, huh?
Great map, i'll click this little box "Star this map!"
I hope you know how to stack beats with slider-endpoints...

Gens wrote:

Song sounds cool.

[General]
- Try placing an appropiate Preview point by going to Menu -> Timing -> Set Current Point as Preview. Maybe you can place it at 00:35:551 or something ;o Done
- Consider placing Finishes on every spinner Done
- I'm not sure, but I think there are some unsnapped beats. Try Resnap all notes. Done

[Normal]
00:06:93 (3) - Looks abit ugly. :p Meh you're right.
00:41:24 (4,6) - Consider stacking these. Done
00:42:96 (8,9) - ^ Not sure if I can get any better than that, and I personally I really can't tell in game
01:15:38 (2,3) - ^ Gah, how do I keep missing these? done ^_^
01:35:03 (1,4) - ^ Now this time there is really nothing I can do, if I adjust it will ruin my square

[Hard]
00:51:24 (1,1,1,1) - Symmetry!! D< (Relative to the Grid) (Of course, this is only a suggestion :p) I never really was a huge fan of this part. Done.

[Insane]
00:41:58 (1) - umm it's not snapped to the grid and looks ugly D: Erm what? Don't see the problem here :/
01:02:10 (4,6) - Consider stacking these. Done
01:36:58 (8) - umm it's not snapped to the grid and looks ugly D: Whoops. Done

Thanks for the cleanup I realized now that when I was 0.0x snapping I forgot to turn off grid snap >.< mah bad.

Really Cool Song!

Sugestions :

[Normal]

00:21:93 (5) - with that finish hitsound there sounds weird, i sugest: move the slider 1/2 beat forwart (red tick), end in 00:22:79 (red tick [as you have it])

00:30:89(x) - sounds like a mising note here
01:06:41 (1,1) - hitsound it with finishs

01:24:34 (4,5,6) - something there sounds to me REALLY WEIRD, try:
01:24:34 (4) - end in 01:25:03
01:25:38(x) - add a circle here
01:25:55 (6) - start in 01:25:72
01:26:58(x) - add a circle here OR start a slider there, end in 01:27:10 (maybe with a finish hitsound at the end )
01:26:24 (7) - start in 01:26:75 OR ^

Confued? me too, maybe this can help:


01:55:03 (1) - start in the next red tick
01:57:79 (1) - ^

[Hard]

01:55:03 (1) - as in Normal, start in the next red tick
01:57:79 (1) - ^
02:11:24 (2) - aling whit (1) and (2)
(no really mistakes)

[Insane]

00:31:93 (1) - aling with (3)
01:55:03 (1) - as others difficulties
01:57:79 (1) - ^
(no really mistakes)

Also, STAR!!!

AdvanceBoy wrote:

[Normal]

00:21:93 (5) - with that finish hitsound there sounds weird, i sugest: move the slider 1/2 beat forwart (red tick), end in 00:22:79 (red tick [as you have it]) Done

00:30:89(x) - sounds like a mising note here Done
01:06:41 (1,1) - hitsound it with finishs Done

01:24:34 (4,5,6) - something there sounds to me REALLY WEIRD, try:
01:24:34 (4) - end in 01:25:03
01:25:38(x) - add a circle here
01:25:55 (6) - start in 01:25:72
01:26:58(x) - add a circle here OR start a slider there, end in 01:27:10 (maybe with a finish hitsound at the end )
01:26:24 (7) - start in 01:26:75 OR ^
Fixed, but I did it a tad differently (it should be ok though)

01:55:03 (1) - start in the next red tick
01:57:79 (1) - ^
I was going to ignore this but I decided to change it after all, I'll see how I like it...

[Hard]

01:55:03 (1) - as in Normal, start in the next red tick
01:57:79 (1) - ^
Done

02:11:24 (2) - aling whit (1) and (2) Gonna say no one this one, I like it slightly curved (kind of like it's falling)

[Insane]

00:31:93 (1) - aling with (3) Whoops. Done
01:55:03 (1) - as others difficulties
01:57:79 (1) - ^
Done

Thanks! I really appreciate it

forget the PM, I'll mod now >:D

Awesome map/song

[Normal]
mostly combo problems, soo, here it goes
00:22:10 (5) - new combo
00:29:17 (1,2,3,4) - how about flip this horizontally, that way, the heart-shaped slider wont reverse the direction of the combo, snap accordingly.
00:38:48 (1) - remove new combo here (?)
00:38:82 (2) - new combo here (?)
00:41:93 (5) - seeing other changes in combo, how about here (?)
00:48:48 (3) - new combo (?)
00:52:62 (4) - ^
01:06:93 (1) - remove new combo
01:13:13 (1) - ^
01:30:208 (x) - note here, sounds empty, probably stack on (5)
01:33:31 (1) - remove new combo

[Hard]
maybe move the overall difficulty down one and the HP drain up one more (only a suggestion, so the overall difficulty wont match with insane)
00:29:51 (5,6) - how about move this a level 3 grid to da right, they look too bunched up together when (4) seems a bit far from (6), or you can move (5) to da left, they will all be equidistant either way. (?)
01:13:13 (1) - remove new combo
01:35:03 (1) - ^

[Insane]
00:30:55 (1) - remove new combo
00:31:93 (1) - ^
02:08:657 (x) - note here (?)
this difficulty was soo fun and awesome

eeestar*

Made most changes. A lot of the new combos I kept though because of slider art, though I managed to work around Normal pretty well. I also spruced up the slow section on Insane a bit.

Thanks, and glad you like it

Hello,



[Normal]

00:43:65 (2) - match this slider's end perfectly with (1)'s
00:54:00 (1) - allign with slider's end
01:13:82 (5) - ctrl + r this slider to follow the pattern's style. It plays cooler this way, try it out.
01:24:34 (4) - allign with fading (2)
01:32:44 (3) - new combo, 01:33:31 (1) - undo new combo
01:36:76 (5) - new combo
01:36:07 (4) - match this slider's end with fading (1), then it will perfectly allign with upcoming (1)


[Hard]

00:12:62 (2) - move this slider a bit down so it plays smoother after finishing the previous slider
00:22:79 (3) - allign slider's end with its beginning
00:31:93 (1) - allign this with 00:30:20 (1) -
00:38:13 (1) - undo new combo
00:41:58 (6) - new combo
00:48:31 (3) - new combo
01:31:24 (1) - undo new combo, 01:32:44 (2) - new combo
01:36:76 (6) - new combo
01:43:48 (3) - new combo
01:49:51 (1,1,1) - undo new combos
02:07:45 (2) - new combo
02:11:24 (2) - is this on purpose or you failed hard alligning it?
02:22:27 (6,7) - spacing, if you are doing this assign new combos to (6) and (7)
02:35:89 (2,1,1) - undo new combos
02:45:72 (1) - undo new combo, 02:47:10 (3) - new combo
02:51:58 (1,1) - undo new combos, 02:52:62 (1,1) - undo new combos, 02:53:65 (1) - undo new combo
02:55:89 (1) - i think kiai timing should end here


[Insane]

00:23:48 (4,5,6) - inconstant spacing at a single pattern, try adding a new combo here 00:23:48 (4) -
00:37:44 (4) - new combo, 00:38:13 (1) - undo new combo
00:41:41 (6) - new combo, 00:41:58 (1) - undo new combo, 00:42:96 (1) - undo new combo
00:48:48 (4) - new combo
00:52:44 (5) - new combo, 00:52:62 (1) - undo new combo
01:06:93 (1) - undo new combo, 01:07:79 (5) - new combo
01:13:13 (1) - undo new combo
01:29:86 (1) - undo new combo
01:32:62 (4) - new combo, 01:33:13 (1) - undo new combo, 01:33:31 (1) - undo new combo,
01:33:82 (1) - undo new combo, 01:34:34 (1) - undo new combo
01:35:38 (3) - match its beginning and end with fading (8) & (1)
01:36:07 (5) - allign with slider's end
01:43:48 (5) - new combo, 01:44:17 (1) - undo new combo, 01:45:03 (6) - new combo
02:11:24 (2) - again same as in hard difficulty, is this on purpose or you failed alligning it? Because...
(2) aint alligned with (1) but it is alligned with (3)
02:15:72 (1) - this slider seems to be slightly inclined to the right
02:35:89 (3) - new combo, 02:36:07 (1) - undo new combo
02:42:96 (1) - undo new combo
02:44:69 (1,2) - ugly, i can barely see the upcoming (1) after finishing the previous pattern. Instead of giving this combo pattern a vertically start, try giving it an horizontal one. Maybe form a triangle or somthing.
02:45:72 (1) - undo new combo, 02:46:93 (4) - new combo, 02:48:31 (5) - new combo
02:51:58 (1,1) - undo new combos, 02:52:62 (1,1) - undo new combos, 02:53:65 (1) - undo new combo


I like the song, and the beatmap style is pretty nice too.
Good job.

Thanks, nazi mod but a lot of it is worth listening to ^_^ it's kinda late right now but I'll get to the rest of the changes tomorrow. I'm gonna have a lot of new combo/combo colour choreography to do...

EDIT: Done (i think)

this map is sweet.. it's really come a lonnnng way

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Insane 02:42:62 (1,2,1,2,3,1,2,1) - This spacing seems completely random. Not going to debubble. Just want another BAT to consider this part before ranking.

Have a star.

Looks fine to me. The 'random' beats actually complete the vertical line.

Ranked.

great map love it <3