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How big is the difference between 60 and 120hz?

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RinnRinn
I've been playing for about 6 months at this point. Just the other day I was going through the settings, and found that my laptop's screen could go from 60 to 120hz and I had been playing at 60hz this whole time. Yet all of a sudden I feel like playing Osu is waaay harder. I don't know if I'm just bad, or if there's a big gap between playing at 60 and 120hz and I just don't know it. Can it actually mess up your skills if you go from 60 to 120 hz?
shmowzoww
Night and day.
Legendary
The difference is crazy, def recommend a 120hz or 144hz monitor.
abraker
I got a 165Hz monitor. Things sure a lot smoother.
Flanster
around 60
TheKingHenry

Flanster wrote:

around 60

fuck beat me to it lol
Nuuskamuikkunen
Even from 60 to 72 there's a noticeable difference
TicClick
AndreTsoi
I have a 144hz monitor and even though I am by no means a good player - but I can tell you that it's a big difference. You will never be able to go back to 60hz, that said - you don't need it.
-Abby-
It's very comfortable. And mathematically speaking, it's a good advantage.
144hz = 7 millisecond of refresh rate
60hz = 16 millisecond of refresh rate
There are 9ms of difference. In OD 8 songs you have (+/-)31.5ms (= 63ms) to hit a 300 circle.
That means 14% (9ms are approximately 14% of 63ms) more time available to see an approach circle moving* and hit a 300...
In greater OD's it increases (OD11=34%).

*=disappearing if you are playing hidden

The cursor becomes smoother too.
Mynarcoia
100% difference, seriously you can never go back to 60hz after you play on 120/144/240hz
Nikolai

Markymark198 wrote:

100% difference, seriously you can never go back to 60hz after you play on 120/144/240hz

yes you can, stop lying to yourself
MusicRitman
Smooth play I think. Cuz it's more image updates.
Hellnickell
In my opinion, it really only makes a big difference in osu!mania. In standard osu!, 60hz is fine. You can play with 120hz for smoother results, but 60hz isn't that bad.

But if you play osu!mania, you need a 120hz monitor, or else all the notes will be blurry and you'll have a tough time reading the notes.

I'm not too sure about the other gamemodes.
KoleciAlexandru

Ginotec wrote:

It's very comfortable. And mathematically speaking, it's a good advantage.
144hz = 7 millisecond of refresh rate
60hz = 16 millisecond of refresh rate
There are 9ms of difference. In OD 8 songs you have (+/-)31.5ms (= 63ms) to hit a 300 circle.
That means 14% (9ms are approximately 14% of 63ms) more time available to see an approach circle moving* and hit a 300...
In greater OD's it increases (OD11=34%).

*=disappearing if you are playing hidden

The cursor becomes smoother too.

Jeez, this guy knows his math
RhythmicRS
smoooooooooooooooth
- Lena -

Ginotec wrote:

It's very comfortable. And mathematically speaking, it's a good advantage.
144hz = 7 millisecond of refresh rate
60hz = 16 millisecond of refresh rate
There are 9ms of difference. In OD 8 songs you have (+/-)31.5ms (= 63ms) to hit a 300 circle.
That means 14% (9ms are approximately 14% of 63ms) more time available to see an approach circle moving* and hit a 300...
In greater OD's it increases (OD11=34%).

*=disappearing if you are playing hidden

The cursor becomes smoother too.

what a legend
Piejietjen
That's some dang impressive math

Ginotec wrote:

It's very comfortable. And mathematically speaking, it's a good advantage.
144hz = 7 millisecond of refresh rate
60hz = 16 millisecond of refresh rate
There are 9ms of difference. In OD 8 songs you have (+/-)31.5ms (= 63ms) to hit a 300 circle.
That means 14% (9ms are approximately 14% of 63ms) more time available to see an approach circle moving* and hit a 300...
In greater OD's it increases (OD11=34%).

*=disappearing if you are playing hidden

The cursor becomes smoother too.


Anyway, I highly enjoyed using a 144hz screen when I had the chance. But in my opinion, and especially since I don't really play competitively, it wasn't worth the extra money. A smooth and stable 60 is (again in my opinion) far more enjoyable (and much easier to attain) than a choppy 144. (And it's imo wasted money if you cap your games at 60) If you have the hardware to push 144 without sacrificing anything, then by all means go for it!
But while I was using my monitor, I had to sacrifice either overall fidelity, or resolution, to keep the 144hz stable and enjoyable.
bih_
i can't tell the difference.
couldn't afford a 120hz monitor anyway lol
don't want one either.
i should probably upgrade from my current 45hz one tho
Kumi Lone Wolf
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[LS]PositoniX
i went from 60 to 144 and noticed a difference immediately.
Eske N1K
My best friend irl wanted to buy a 144hz for csgo but he did not know if it was worth it, so i told him to come at my place & i will show him what i did is :
-launch csgo in max fps 144 = 144hz
-let him play in a training map a bit
-he did not noticed anything weird except everything was "smoother ,felt more reactive & alive "
-set max fps to 60
-he said wtf your game is freezing & sluttering so hard
-He went back home and could not play a single game of csgo cause it was unplayable for him
-he bought a 144hz monitor for 200€ (benq xl2411z)
-he said it's night & day

From my perspective i went from 60 to 144 & 144 to 240 hz
Imo the difference is there, but not like going from 60 to 144hz
it's still verry noticable & you can tell the difference blindfolded.
So if you can afford it and have a REALLY better gaming experience just go for it =)
-Polyrem-
im using a 60hz school laptop and it really isn't that bad
Machiavellian
60 is fine for osu from what I noticed, but 144hz is a noticeable difference. For any shooter game like overwatch or CSGO it is WORLDS better imo
-Polyrem-
im using a 60hz school laptop and it really isn't that bad
Winnyace
it is the standard for monitors after all, but going 120HZ from 60HZ one is huge difference! even going from 60HZ to 75HZ is a big step.
S_P_O_O_N
I've been looking for an excuse to buy a 144hz monitor.... I think I might have to now.
klunkd

RinnRinn wrote:

I've been playing for about 6 months at this point. Just the other day I was going through the settings, and found that my laptop's screen could go from 60 to 120hz and I had been playing at 60hz this whole time. Yet all of a sudden I feel like playing Osu is waaay harder. I don't know if I'm just bad, or if there's a big gap between playing at 60 and 120hz and I just don't know it. Can it actually mess up your skills if you go from 60 to 120 hz?
I mean if you just get used to 120hz, it's way better.
redleader20056
Y'all are making me feel poor
animeslayergp

redleader20056 wrote:

Y'all are making me feel poor
same
soft kitten
overclock your monitor to 75hz and call it a day, thats what i did

you don't need a good setup to rank up, what matters is how much effort you put in
bruhmomentxddd
bigger than the difference between 144 and 240, the higher up the frames are the less noticeable the difference is
Sugar_owo

bruhmomentxddd wrote:

bigger than the difference between 144 and 240, the higher up the frames are the less noticeable the difference is
wowcake
Wondering if the differences are equivalent to 30 and 60fps difference, or if it's higher than that.
heg-

bruhmomentxddd wrote:

bigger than the difference between 144 and 240, the higher up the frames are the less noticeable the difference is
theres no point in getting a 240hz monitor because once you get above 144-165, the difference is nearly unnoticable
Sugar_owo

antonio417 wrote:

bruhmomentxddd wrote:

bigger than the difference between 144 and 240, the higher up the frames are the less noticeable the difference is
theres no point in getting a 240hz monitor because once you get above 144-165, the difference is nearly unnoticable
yeah.
FINGERLOCK
I just got a 144hz monitor and the difference is pretty crazing, reading patterns and aiming streams is immensely easier. You ever see those "2000fps" osu videos? That's basically what it feels like to play on 144hz I won't lie.
marliee

RinnRinn wrote:

I've been playing for about 6 months at this point. Just the other day I was going through the settings, and found that my laptop's screen could go from 60 to 120hz and I had been playing at 60hz this whole time. Yet all of a sudden I feel like playing Osu is waaay harder. I don't know if I'm just bad, or if there's a big gap between playing at 60 and 120hz and I just don't know it. Can it actually mess up your skills if you go from 60 to 120 hz?
it definitely messed my aim the first time i switched, but i think thats because were not used to it
bih_
big but not big enough for me to ever consider buying a monitor over 60hz lol. i’m not gonna spend money like that on tech
lachbar
i don't think using a 60hz monitor would make you significantly worse, but its evident in the price that 120-144hz just makes everything more fluid and less muddled (and laggy, naturally).
Blue9485
You will really feel the difference
https://youtu.be/0ZHHqY1ePbM
qwt
60fps

120fps
Zelzatter Zero

Reforms Expert wrote:

60fps

120fps
There has been a debate whether 60Hz only outputs 60fps or more so bringing fps here isn't ideal imo.
animeslayergp
i recently got a 144hz labtop and i have to say,coming from 60hz,theres no going back
qwt

Zelzatter Zero wrote:

Reforms Expert wrote:

60fps

120fps
There has been a debate whether 60Hz only outputs 60fps or more so bringing fps here isn't ideal imo.
60hz

120hz
telepokus

bih_ wrote:

i can't tell the difference.
couldn't afford a 120hz monitor anyway lol
don't want one either.
i should probably upgrade from my current 45hz one tho
45 hz? wtf
eaurau
honestly a massive difference, 120 feels so much smoother and responsive than 60
Vaniels

Reforms Expert wrote:

Zelzatter Zero wrote:

Reforms Expert wrote:

60fps

120fps
There has been a debate whether 60Hz only outputs 60fps or more so bringing fps here isn't ideal imo.
60hz

120hz
120/60 = 2
120-60 = 60
ShinRun
Probably around 100 dollars or so
tatjok
Huge difference.
I've played games on a potato pc for nearly 11 years (spent around 2k hours of dota 2, 500 hrs of CSGO, 500 hrs of brawlhalla on a 60Hz monitor with ONLY 45-55 fps max.) so my eyes were already used to the low-mid fps + 60Hz screen. Just at the end of last year I can finally afford a mid-high end gaming laptop with a 144Hz screen. Then I tried to play a game back again on my old PC to compare it after just using the new 144Hz screen for mere 1 week, and my eyes were already shocked by how 'laggy' it was (though I've spent 11 years of non-stop gaming with 60Hz). Definitely need some adaptation for the first couple of weeks, but once you're used to it, it's hard to go back..
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