one of the main reasons diff name rules were created was to prevent mappers from using only their usernames/nicknames as difficulty names. naming diffs as your username was done a lot before the rules were created but apparently it is allowed again after recent rule changes...
but it's worse now because it's not a feature available for everyone.

users with "convenient" usernames like fieryrage , love and goodbye will take advantage of it because hatred, breakup and love are VERY common themes used in most, if not all music genres.

are users with more unusual names like wcx19911123 ever getting a chance to be used as difficulty name? if they already used their free username change then are they supposed to spend money on more username changes in order to be able to use this feature? what if those users have countless maps ranked with these unusual names, would it be a good deal for val0108 to change his username in order to be able to use this feature? i don't think it would.

what about HaruSenshi, assuming this is a character name then in the best scenario the mapper will be able to use this feature in a song related to this specific character (if the character has any).

so we have 3 different scenarios:

1. users with "convenient" usernames will get to freely rank their maps using their usernames in the top difficulties.
2. users with "random words/names" usernames might have a few chances to rank maps with their usernames in top difficulties.
3. users with "unusual" usernames are most likely not getting a chance to rank maps using their usernames in top difficulties.

the rule should be reworded again to prevent anyone from using their current or old usernames/nicknames as difficulty names because rules and guidelines are supposed to impose the same limitations to every mapper on every game mode. the current difficulty name rules clearly favors users with convenient usernames and this might frustrate a lot of people.

current rule wording:

A difficulty's name must not solely consist of one or more usernames. Words that happen to be usernames are acceptable within difficulty names as long as they relate to the song.

proposed wording:

A difficulty's name must not solely consist of references, nicknames or usernames of anyone contributing to the beatmapset. Words that happen to be references, nicknames or usernames of users unrelated to the beatmapset are acceptable within difficulty names as long as they relate to the song.

if the difference between username, nickname and reference are not clear then here's some examples:

fieryrage = username / Fiery Rage = nickname
nardoxyribonucleic = username / nardo = nickname

Frozen = reference to mapper IceOC. but also counts as reference to any user using "ice" or similar things in the username if they attempt to use Frozen as top diff name, however, if the song itself is about cold, ice, winter etc then it would be fine.

hyper's hyper

Your custom diffname has to be related to the song already plus having your nickname as a custom diffname shouldn't be an issue if it's a single word and it can't really be avoided.

The only thing that really gets to me is when your nick has two or more words and you just use them together in the same order to try and be funny when in reality it's just a really forced way of using your nick as a custom diffname. As an example, the recent qualified diffname called "Fiery Rage" somewhat relates to the song (i didn't check it myself but multiple people said so) and it's still really meh to be used in my opinion since you'd have multiple other options there.

The fact that not everyone can do so is not the main issue in my eyes either, things work like that, it's just a bit hypocritical to try and avoid such a behaviour but when it """kinda fits"""" you can just use your nick with spaces in the middle when it's clearly not a coincidence

Yeah I have to disagree here.

The rule being different depending on mapper name seems irrelevant to anything really, the usage of a difficulty name is purely to fit the song, mapper name should be, and is, fully irrelevant. If wcx found a song that fits that difficulty name, sure go ahead, but someone's name never fitting a song isn't any kind of problem with the rule.

There's no harm done with a difficulty name being related to or referencing a mapper, as long as the difficulty name is suited to the song. The reason for this rule in the first place was to stop mappers having difficulty names that weren't relevant to the song, so restricting it more by making it so even if they are related, they're not allowed if they're related to the mappers name in any way, seems like an unnecessary restriction with no real benefits.

doesn't change the fact that the rule is giving more creative possibilities only for certain users instead of everyone.

back when this possibility was taken away from mappers it demotivated a lot of people. whoever didn't quit after that change eventually got used to the idea of not being able to do it anymore and it's been that way for years and now this possibility is back for only a few weeks i assume?

i believe nothing got ranked so far making use of this "new" feature so nobody is going to miss something they didn't even got the chance to use.

does metadata rules impose anything differently if you are a newbie mapper, noffy or the artists themselves?
no, because just like every other rule (except this one), it demands the same requirements regardless of who is the user, doesn't matter if the artist claims the official spelling is name surname, they still have to follow standardization rules. doesn't matter if the newbie mapper doesn't know or don't like metadata, they still need to add tags for the 30 guest mappers names, their old usernames, tags for genre language on every single difficulty.

being unable to use your username as difficulty name while others can, would be the equivalent as not being allowed to join BN because your username is just a bunch of random numbers and the NAT preferred to promote someone with nicer username.

it's better to have no benefits for anyone than to benefit only a few.

i guess what I don't understand about this thread is why using your own name in a diff name is some kind of "benefit" or "creative possibility"... does it really matter that much? at best it's a quick laugh for some people and I'm not really sure how this causes harm for anyone else (unless the name is totally forced, of course, in which case RC already has stuff about not allowing whack diff names)

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you say that it doesn't matter but then you are willing to spend money on username change (and actually map) just to make a point. i can just complement the proposal making allowances for official difficulty names and stuff, i'll save this for later today tho.

if this feature was not a big deal then it wouldn't be used so often in the past to the point where they started making regulations.

On the other hand, I would use my old username if i was to map saekano stuff, hence you know.
But also, how about GD mapper usernames in difficulties? Hence cases like this
I swear, this is the first map I saw when trying to make an example. Honestly.

if you mean indicating possession on a guest difficulty:

hyper's Hyper, Platter's Platter, KatouMegumi's Expert, pimp's Normal are still required to be used in guest difficulties, this proposal doesn't affect any of those.

You say that the purpose of this proposal is to place the same limitations on all mappers, however it's just moving those unfair limitations to somewhere else.

The user "love" goes ahead and maps any random tragic love song. Now they are unable to use the diff name "love" while everyone else can, just because it happens to be their username?

I'd say to just stop caring whether something happens to be a username or not and just focus on whether the diff name is appropriate for the song.

I don’t disagree with 1st and 2nd point, ofc I don’t want to just make things work for a few people and harm others in the process. I also can see where you are coming from with the tragic love thing. I would appreciate if people were not so quick to dismiss my concerns and help me improve the proposal instead.

Will be making changes later today

So I'm the guy that stirred some drama about guest difficulty naming in the past and the current ruleset looks fine to me.
It enforces relation and clarity in difficulty names.

Personally I don't care about weak and insignificant puns that probably won't even be noticed by half the players.
If a mapper tries to be a spicy memer and it feels forced and unfitting in the specific case it is something that can be addressed in the modding process.
If you actually wanted to reflect that in Ranking Criteria it could only be as a guideline and not as a rule. That would give modders a mean to actually attack a poor user-related difficulty name based on RC but also not lock out good user-related options for no other reason than "if i can't, you shouldn't be allowed either". The "harm" you're talking about does not exist as long as poor user-related difficulty names will get attacked by modders.

Why do people choose user-related diffnames anyway?
Either because they think it's funny or they want to use it as a mean to gain more popularity among players or a mix of both. That's what I think. If they really map a song and try to get it ranked solely with the intention of being able to use their name in the top diff name then I'll be one of the first to call "lame!". Regardless of that, the possible reasons one could have to prevent anything like that from getting ranked seem rather petty.

@clayton: do it.

Essentially my thoughts agree with Mo here. You're actually enforcing being unfair towards certain mappers with this proposal, since a mapper wouldn't be able to use a diff name just because it's their username, which is an actual restriction that only affects certain people.

+1 to -Mo- endaris and mbomb

I still think calling this a "feature" is overstated, you have to follow the current rules which prohibit totally unrelated diffnames already

i'm feeling lazy and there's already a new discussion about this rule so consider this proposal dead, at least until the other one is concluded

https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1013222