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[result screen] Show your spinner bonus score (ctb & osu)

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XPJ38
osu! Alumni
3,570 posts
Joined February 2010
XPJ38
Why not.

As far as I am concerned, I would be pretty interested in showing the average spinner speed (e.g. 342 spins per minute) instead of spinner bonus points. It is meaningful and would be as accurate as points because you wouldn't have a higher average than someone below you in the rankings.

Wouldn't work for CtB though.
bwross
265 posts
Joined December 2009
bwross

Keredna wrote:

Support the idea.
Also suggesting that the result screen show the total spinner bonus (including the amount influenced by the multiplier).

From what I know (but not completely certain), a 5000 spinner bonus at 300 combo would give slightly less score comparing to a 5000 bonus at 400 combo.

As an example:
PlayerA got 4000 bonus at 300 combo and 5000 bonus at 400 combo.
PlayerB got 5000 bonus at 300 combo and 4000 bonus at 400 combo.

Both players got 9000 bonus in total, but due influence of the multipliers when they got the bonus, playerA would get like 100 points higher than playerB.

I'd like to see the amount influenced by the multiplier also included in the result screen.
The spinner bonus (both the 1000s and the 100/spin) aren't affected by the combo multiplier. If they were, the difference would be a lot more than 100 points in that example. The combo bonus is applied to the 300 you get for completing the spinner, but that's not part of the bonus, and wouldn't explain a 100 point difference.

What does explain it is exactly what was originally posted... the 100 you get for completing a spin is awarded at a different point than the 1000 for bonus spins. I've tested this by slow spinning... I was getting 100s around 7 o'clock, and 1000s around 10, so if I stop between them (I spin CW) I'd have an extra 100.
Keredna
99 posts
Joined December 2009
Keredna

bwross wrote:

The spinner bonus (both the 1000s and the 100/spin) aren't affected by the combo multiplier. If they were, the difference would be a lot more than 100 points in that example. The combo bonus is applied to the 300 you get for completing the spinner, but that's not part of the bonus, and wouldn't explain a 100 point difference.

What does explain it is exactly what was originally posted... the 100 you get for completing a spin is awarded at a different point than the 1000 for bonus spins. I've tested this by slow spinning... I was getting 100s around 7 o'clock, and 1000s around 10, so if I stop between them (I spin CW) I'd have an extra 100.
That seriously just made things so much more complicated...
But anyway, that extra 100 doesn't go under spinner bonus?
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
Topic Starter
theowest

XPJ38 wrote:

Wouldn't work for CtB though.
Care to explain why?

Keredna wrote:

That seriously just made things so much more complicated...
But anyway, that extra 100 doesn't go under spinner bonus?
bwross really likes to write essays.
Seph
Seph
Spinners on ctb arent always that accurate though, well, when you watch the replay that is.
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
Topic Starter
theowest

Seph wrote:

Spinners on ctb arent always that accurate though, well, when you watch the replay that is.
replays are always inaccurate.
Soner Wolf
72 posts
Joined September 2011
Soner Wolf
yes - regardless if the replays are bugged or not, that's a different issue. The fact that this could be useful to know. How often have you gotten a better combo / accuracy and still get beaten by someone else because they spun faster. wouldn't you like to know by how much faster they spin than you? I sure would. ~ Support
XPJ38
osu! Alumni
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Joined February 2010
XPJ38

theowest wrote:

XPJ38 wrote:

Wouldn't work for CtB though.
Care to explain why?
There simply isn't an "average spinner speed" in CtB.
bwross
265 posts
Joined December 2009
bwross

XPJ38 wrote:

There simply isn't an "average spinner speed" in CtB.
The request isn't for average spin speed, it's for bonus score. And the number of bananas caught is definitely known (replays problems aside).

theowest wrote:

bwross really likes to write essays.
I didn't have time to write a short note, so I wrote a long one (to paraphrase Mark Twain (IIRC)).

(But really, was that post that complicated?)
deadbeat
osu! Alumni
9,218 posts
Joined June 2009
deadbeat

bwross wrote:

I didn't have time to write a short note, so I wrote a long one (to paraphrase Mark Twain (IIRC)).
wait. you don't have time to write a short note, but enough time to write a long one......
am i the only one confused at how that works?
XPJ38
osu! Alumni
3,570 posts
Joined February 2010
XPJ38

bwross wrote:

XPJ38 wrote:

There simply isn't an "average spinner speed" in CtB.
The request isn't for average spin speed, it's for bonus score
I know, I think he was just asking for details about my suggestion.
bwross
265 posts
Joined December 2009
bwross
It's easier to write long because you just have to dump out everything until you need to stop. There's no need to think about what to say, you just say everything that comes to mind.
- Akari -_old
- Akari -_old
Supporting this feature, I would want that.
Drafura
osu! Alumni
2,621 posts
Joined April 2010
Drafura
oh yes, bump :3

(btw : theowest, I want your banana skin)
Kluddio
865 posts
Joined February 2012
Kluddio
I think this have already been on this forum before but it's still like the best idea ever becasue it's hard to try to tell people how many slider breaks you got and to keep track on how much bonus you got when there are like 3 spinners on a map and you need a special amount. So you earn a star bro.

Keep the good work up west.
Drafura
osu! Alumni
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Joined April 2010
Drafura
I've made some tests by myself about std bonuses, there're two states for a spinner (all those values aren't affected by combo) :
- During incomplete spinner : 100 per spin
- During complete spinner : 100 per halfspin + 1000 per spin = 1200 per spin

I think this is the most accurate value to show to players. For example a spinner requires 10 spins to be cleared and a player do 2 extras turns and a half, result showed would be something like : 1000+ 2500 = 3500

Adding the last 300 multiplied by the combo would be even more accurate.

This explain your screen Saten :


You did a half spin less than the #10
Kluddio
865 posts
Joined February 2012
Kluddio
+ 2 stars ma love
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
Topic Starter
theowest

Cloudio-san wrote:

+ 2 stars ma love
omg thanks <3
Tear
332 posts
Joined January 2012
Tear
The result screen needs more info, 3 stars.
Winshley
osu! Alumni
2,384 posts
Joined May 2011
Winshley
To be specific about spinner calculations, the 1k bonus spin and the 100/spin scores are independently counted, which may result in some sort of de-sync problem.

For example:
- 100 + 100 + ... + 100 + 100+1000 + 100+1000 (which is the correct behavior)
- 100 + 100 + ... + 100 + 100+1000 + 100+1000 + 100 (last spin somehow doesn't get the 1000 spin award)
- 100 + 100 + ... + 100 + 100+1000 + 100+1000 + 100+1000 (this is what you would see on Replay Data for above play)

This happened when you managed to complete a spin at the same time when the spinner ends. This is noticeable by listening to the bonus spin sound effect indicating that you did complete the spinner, but the 1k spin bonus score isn't awarded.

Additionally, this can also come from screen resolution problem. When I watched Replay Data under 640×480 resolution, it shows extra 200 points than intended, while playing on higher resolutions shows an intended result.
theowest
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Topic Starter
theowest

Winshley wrote:

Additionally, this can also come from screen resolution problem. When I watched Replay Data under 640×480 resolution, it shows extra 200 points than intended, while playing on higher resolutions shows an intended result.
The replay mechanic is broken. This request is about the result screen.
Winshley
osu! Alumni
2,384 posts
Joined May 2011
Winshley

theowest wrote:

This request is about the result screen.
What about old plays then? I don't think it can detect how many spins the player have done without the accompanying Replay Data, right?
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
Topic Starter
theowest

Winshley wrote:

theowest wrote:

This request is about the result screen.
What about old plays then? I don't think it can detect how many spins the player have done without the accompanying Replay Data, right?
not sure, either way having different resolutions won't affect how many official spins you make, etc.
MillhioreF
Pro Tester
5,004 posts
Joined July 2011
MillhioreF
Old plays also don't have the hit rate and unstable rate specified, but they can be generated locally after playing through the replay. I assume this would be the case if this feature was added, too.
119410501
665 posts
Joined April 2011
119410501
Support
star~
eldnl
Former osu!catch Champion: 2013
2,930 posts
Joined March 2010
eldnl
support u
ursa
1,302 posts
Joined April 2010
ursa
Full Support on this /o/

also I hope the spinner bonus score will visible as same in std

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Last edited by ursa , edited 2 times in total.
VelperK
1,172 posts
Joined May 2010
VelperK
Why isn't this implemented by peppy yet?
119410501
665 posts
Joined April 2011
119410501

urs4chan wrote:

Full Support on this /o/

also I hope the spinner bonus score will visible as same in std

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Naaah, that would be disturbing! At least make something like spinner-score-#.png skinnable
Lunhui
104 posts
Joined October 2012
Lunhui
I love this idea ! (:
+2 ♥
Ableh
1,924 posts
Joined June 2011
Ableh
support~
Gilochan
369 posts
Joined December 2010
Gilochan

Ableh_ZZZ wrote:

support~
MillhioreF
Pro Tester
5,004 posts
Joined July 2011
MillhioreF
This is actually on peppy's to-do list already - he wants to redesign the results screen completely, and he'll add stuff like this when he does.
Merusadas
33 posts
Joined July 2011
Merusadas
This isn't half bad
Just wondering
So for spinner bonus, its not only 1 spinner there can be there can be 5 or 6 or none
And some spinners can get like 10k so the spinner points add up?

Like one spinner you get 2k bonus and another 6k
So at the score board you see 8k?
Not a criticism, just wondering
theowest
osu! Alumni
6,891 posts
Joined January 2009
Topic Starter
theowest

wns0722 wrote:

This isn't half bad
Just wondering
So for spinner bonus, its not only 1 spinner there can be there can be 5 or 6 or none
And some spinners can get like 10k so the spinner points add up?

Like one spinner you get 2k bonus and another 6k
So at the score board you see 8k?
Not a criticism, just wondering
total, yes. You see the total of all stats.
Hula
581 posts
Joined January 2013
Hula

MillhioreF wrote:

This is actually on peppy's to-do list already - he wants to redesign the results screen completely, and he'll add stuff like this when he does.
Might as well make sure he does add this, because he might forget/not bother with it.

+2 support \o/
Merusadas
33 posts
Joined July 2011
Merusadas

Hula wrote:

MillhioreF wrote:

This is actually on peppy's to-do list already - he wants to redesign the results screen completely, and he'll add stuff like this when he does.
Might as well make sure he does add this, because he might forget/not bother with it.

+2 support \o/

Haha your funny
Peppy would never forge.... oh wait he might
119410501
665 posts
Joined April 2011
119410501
I'm giving a star to this again, go go do it!
Aoko
1,053 posts
Joined June 2011
Aoko
Supporting this one!
Kemdo
148 posts
Joined September 2012
Kemdo
This seems like quite a good idea - I would love to shower you with starts but I don't have any ; ___ ;
Gilochan
369 posts
Joined December 2010
Gilochan
bump. giving my stars~
Kitokofox
osu! Alumni
455 posts
Joined August 2012
Kitokofox
I'll bump this, and merge in http://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/193109 this.
Bananas counting as you go through a spin would be cool, too.
I support this feature and would love to see it in the game.
[Yue]
1,643 posts
Joined January 2011
[Yue]
I love this idea, I hope you can soon implement.
leepdesu
675 posts
Joined October 2011
leepdesu
plus 1
Zolano
45 posts
Joined September 2012
Zolano

-LeeP- wrote:

plus 1
Zak
641 posts
Joined February 2012
Zak
I remember hearing this was going to be added for CtB soon months ago, what happened? (I even saw a couple screenshots of it working)
Mercurial
Mercurial

MillhioreF wrote:

This is actually on peppy's to-do list already - he wants to redesign the results screen completely, and he'll add stuff like this when he does.
Well, in fact this didn't happen.

What now?
Zak
641 posts
Joined February 2012
Zak
He simply said it was on the to-do list, so it could be a while still.

Maybe when osu!next releases? That'd be pretty cool
Mercurial
Mercurial
Yeah, I get that it takes time to develop a new feature in your game... but ppy said nothing in almost 3 years about this.

I would like to see what does ppy think about it.
Zak
641 posts
Joined February 2012
Zak
That's why I'm thinking it could be implemented with osu!next, since peppy has been working on that for so long, and it's just a complete design overhaul with lots of new features.

If Millhiore says this is on his to-do list, that's enough for me, but this has to be low in terms of priority, so I'll just keep waiting patiently.

Main reason for peppy not saying anything in here is he likely doesn't feel the need to.
Mercurial
Mercurial

Zak wrote:

That's why I'm thinking it could be implemented with osu!next, since peppy has been working on that for so long, and it's just a complete design overhaul with lots of new features.

If Millhiore says this is on his to-do list, that's enough for me, but this has to be low in terms of priority, so I'll just keep waiting patiently.

Main reason for peppy not saying anything in here is he likely doesn't feel the need to.
In 3 years, a lot of things can change, so a simple answer wouldn't be that bad to hear, I think.
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