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[closed] Need help with improvement (~3*)

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NotDuckie
Hey, I've been trying to break into the 3* range

If you have any tips, please tell me.

I have been looking for some maps to help me improve if you have a set please do link it. :]
Voidedosu
Your first and only tip (for now): Stop going for 4*.

You're a 7-digit, nearly 2 Million. Unless you have a background in rhythm games you quite literally have absolutely no skill at playing 4* maps (and by that I mean with high acc, like 95%+ and possibly with a FC). Your profile indicates that is certainly not the case; hell, you have multiple C-ranks on Easy 1* maps without mods, which signals to me you have no skill at the game right now and are biting off far more than you can chew.

I get it, maybe you want to look cool and have all that snappy movement like the best players do, but that's not gonna happen after only 26 hours of gameplay. Slow down, go back to the low 1* maps and work on your basic skills: Rhythm sense, reading approach circles, and basic accuracy. I would say a reasonable benchmark is at least 95% acc consistently (that is, you could get about 95% on any map within that 1-1.5* if I pulled one up at random), though I suppose 90% wouldn't be bad for low-balling. Once you can hit that mark, you can up the SR (star rating) by .3 to .6* until you can play those 4*s for real and actually be good at it.

Once you hit at least 300K, then we can probably start talking about 4*s for real with you. Until then relegate it to just playing for fun.


(of course, if you don't give two shits about getting better and just want to play 4*'s, you can ignore my advice. But then you're literally not going to be able to play them anyways because you just don't have the skills those maps require.)
Topic Starter
NotDuckie
honestly i kinda do need to chill with pushing myself into 4*, I would like to get into a 3* range though so if you have any tips please do share.
Plextora
If you want to actually get good at those 3*'s you're gonna have to do what Voidedosu said in his response and work on fundamentals. Once you can consistently FC 1*'s, move on to 2*. Once you can consistently FC 2*'s, move on the 3*, etc.
Topic Starter
NotDuckie
okay then, any tips on working on fundamentals or a set you could link?
Voidedosu

NotDuckie wrote:

okay then, any tips on working on fundamentals or a set you could link?
There aren't really any sets you can use in the 1* area. Not so much because they're all the same (though IMO below 1.5* 98% of them are), but because 1* maps especially aren't going to challenge you like 3*'s are going to and 4*'s defintely will; which is by design because you shouldn't be challenged like that at this point.

Firstly, just keep playing. It's a forever cliche, but at your level you are going to get the most experience just by playing any and ever map you get your hands on within those ranges.

Secondly, with rhythm sense, pay attention to the flow of the song and how that pairs up with the map you're playing. You'll notice that more often than not the objects are placed in such a way that hitting them with perfect accuracy syncs up with either syllables from the vocalist, certain hits from the instruments or just the beat of the song. Once you combine building up your sense for this rhythm with the first one, you'll find that you can deduce what the speed of the map is, how the objects are going to be placed in relation to the flow of the music and even be able to predict in advance when you should hit the next note or two--although not where because that is entirely subjective to the mapper's intention which isn't nearly as easy.

Thirdly, in some combination with the first two, you'll figure out how to best time your hits to the approach circles for the objects and thus improve your accuracy. While it's not as prevalent as it might've been, it's still important to stress that this is not an aim simulator or trainer for stuff like CS:GO or FPS's. Your objective isn't really to stress twitch reactions or stuff like that, which is why it's heavily advised to not start out with 3*+ maps at your level. At that point maps usually are AR7+, often up to AR9, and for you that might as well be unreactable. The same goes for adding mods like HR, which will pump the AR and od up to similarly nearly-unreactable levels. And sure, you can brute force learning maps that way, but now you've trained yourself to hit a note basically as soon as it appears, which isn't what you want.

tl;dr: Keep it slow, keep it simple. That's all you need right now.
Topic Starter
NotDuckie
i can clear >3* easily (with >95% acc), i need tips for 3*
Voidedosu

NotDuckie wrote:

i can clear >3* easily, i need tips for 3*
We're not talking about clearing. I'm talking about having good accuracy. I can clear high 5*/low-mid 6* easily, but I'm not gonna have great acc. on them.

do you want to have good accuracy while you play or do you not give a shit and just want to play stuff that's relatively difficult for you?
Topic Starter
NotDuckie
i do have good acc on them (>97%)
Voidedosu
Of all the maps that have [Hard] as the diff and are at least 2.95*+, you only have, like, three maps that are even 95% plus. That's not good, accuracy-wise, and speaks directly into the lack of rhythm sense or general accuracy skill that you need to improve on. That improvement isn't going to happen on 3* maps, either, because that is either well outside your comfort zone or in the outside range where you want to push your skills. But again, your skills aren't at the point where that would be boundary-pushing.

Start at the 1*'s, and work on those fundamentals as I mentioned. You don't have to go so far as going for SS's (although for me personally I'd be very happy), but that 95%+ consistent accuracy is a good benchmark to set for yourself, IMO. But I'd still say you're not ready for 3* maps yet.
Topic Starter
NotDuckie
This thread is getting nowhere so I've decided to close it
Voidedosu
You don't have to respond, but what is it that I said that isn't making sense?

I know that what you want is to get better at 3*s, but at your current level you aren't going to be able to get better at 3*'s by playing more 3*'s. I'm not going to give someone who's a 7-digit advice on maps at a SR rating they just aren't able to play at almost any level of competency, and nothing I've seen in your top plays is convincing enough to make me think otherwise.

You are, of course, more than welcome to believe differently than me in this regard, but I'd like you to think about what looks like decent skill at a 3* level. do you think 80-90% B-rank passes are a good indicator of skill? 90-95% A-ranks? 90-95% S-ranks with double-digit 100 and 50 counts? Or reaching 95%+ (preferably 97% but 95% is a good starting point) while having an FC more often than not? From what I've seen the general consensus is that the last example is a good indicator of being competent and skillful at the SR rating you're playing, and I'd like to think you're smart enough to know it's likely true.

I'm not going to claim that what I explained to you is the best way (in fact I believe there is no objective "best way" beyond play more and pls enjoy game because no two players are the same), but it's what I think will best get you to your goal of playing 3* maps. Once you get there I think I and most others would be happy to help you with understanding how to navigate 3* maps, but you've got to get there first. Good luck.
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