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Jellinad
173 posts
Joined November 2020
Jellinad

xch00F wrote:

Jellinad wrote:

at least they're not ai generating it. even 1 second of human song >>>>>>> 1000 hours of ai songs
lol bringing up ai music is kinda non sequitur don't you think
it's not like ai isn't the biggest thing atm but okay

also they use it a lot for any work that requires creative effort which is sad
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xch00F
239 posts
Joined October 2012
xch00F

Jellinad wrote:

it's not like ai isn't the biggest thing atm but okay

also they use it a lot for any work that requires creative effort which is sad
well yeah but I'm complaining about people making music, not people generating music
I dislike generative ai music in principle but honestly there are some pretty incredible tools that use ai. a while back I heard about synplant 2 and it was so fucking cool that it was the first time in a long while where I paid for a vst lmao. I've spent more time in fl studio in the months since purchasing it than I have in years

there's also shit like this
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CrispyBanks
3 posts
Joined May 2024
CrispyBanks
Hope I'm not toooo late lol

I've got some thoughts about our generation and the ones coming up after us. Being a Gen Z myself, sometimes I wish I wasn't. We were born right into the thick of it with iphones and all that jazz. Sure, having all this tech at our fingertips has its perks. But it's like we're glued to our screens 24/7. We're all about instant everything, from food delivery to likes on social media. It's like we're living in this never-ending popularity contest. And don't even get me started on how tech has messed with our social skills. When was the last time we had a real, face-to-face conversation without checking our phones every two seconds? But hey, it's not all bad. Gen Z's got some serious strengths too. We're a pretty resilient bunch, and we're not afraid to speak up about stuff that matters, like climate change and equality. So yeah, being a Gen Z-er has its ups and downs. But hey, it's up to us to make the most of it, right? Let's use all this tech for something good and maybe even change the world while we're at it. :P
xch00F
239 posts
Joined October 2012
xch00F
love to order food on my mobile device and have it arrive in the same amount of time as posting a tweet and having one of my social media addicted peers interact with it
Jellinad
173 posts
Joined November 2020
Jellinad

xch00F wrote:

well yeah but I'm complaining about people making music, not people generating music
I dislike generative ai music in principle but honestly there are some pretty incredible tools that use ai. a while back I heard about synplant 2 and it was so fucking cool that it was the first time in a long while where I paid for a vst lmao. I've spent more time in fl studio in the months since purchasing it than I have in years

there's also shit like this
oh I see, well with the speed of the internet nowadays they're basically forced to make them like that, especially because lots of people skip through music and don't listen to it fully (the first chorus/drop and the intro maybe). tiktok made it worse probably because trendy posts use only a short sample of the entire song which makes only that part interesting to most people.

also interesting, no clue what the potential of that plugin is, I'm not a music producer :P
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Rio-
3,364 posts
Joined March 2013
Rio-
Gen Y here... Just like the boomers before me, yeah I think this generation is f-ed. But not that it's bad. Maybe just different generations have their own way for their generations.

But still, one things that concern me is that. Do they actually have Basic-Ethics or what? Like come on, you can do better guys.
great_elmo
120 posts
Joined March 2024
great_elmo
I was literally born just before gen alpha and I've realized how easy us Zs have had it. Sure I may have grown up as an iPad kid but at least I wasn't like gen alpha because this was 7 years before TikTok existed.

The fact that the oldest gen alphas are now entering high school shocks me.
[-Omni-]
958 posts
Joined July 2021
[-Omni-]

Rio- wrote:

Gen Y here... Just like the boomers before me, yeah I think this generation is f-ed. But not that it's bad. Maybe just different generations have their own way for their generations.

But still, one things that concern me is that. Do they actually have Basic-Ethics or what? Like come on, you can do better guys.
to be fair, doesn't every gen think the other is doomed? saw a video about it before
Winnyace
631 posts
Joined June 2016
Winnyace

[-Omni-] wrote:

Rio- wrote:

Gen Y here... Just like the boomers before me, yeah I think this generation is f-ed. But not that it's bad. Maybe just different generations have their own way for their generations.

But still, one things that concern me is that. Do they actually have Basic-Ethics or what? Like come on, you can do better guys.
to be fair, doesn't every gen think the other is doomed? saw a video about it before


great_elmo wrote:

I was literally born just before gen alpha and I've realized how easy us Zs have had it. Sure I may have grown up as an iPad kid but at least I wasn't like gen alpha because this was 7 years before TikTok existed.

The fact that the oldest gen alphas are now entering high school shocks me.
You are arguably more in the alpha generation. As per your admission in your signature, you were born in 2010-2009. The line around generations is fuzzy, though, so it all comes down to a matter of semantics more than anything.

Rio- wrote:

Gen Y here... Just like the boomers before me, yeah I think this generation is f-ed. But not that it's bad. Maybe just different generations have their own way for their generations.

But still, one things that concern me is that. Do they actually have Basic-Ethics or what? Like come on, you can do better guys.
It all depends on the individual here, IMO. There's also the fact that ethics aren't exactly a thing when most of gen Z is just now entering young adulthood.
Achromalia
342 posts
Joined November 2016
Achromalia
(repost, for reasons lol)

i'm ambivalent about it. it's a pretty ambiguous impression of everything that i'm not sure i can parse, and i care deeply about it but am a bit too tired to really feel it in earnest, let alone invest in the work of effectively and accurately understanding each corner of culture involved.

there's a lot that's distressing and disappointing, a lot that's relieving and promising, and i'm not particularly sure i have the clarity of mind to articulate where everything is. much of my perspective is pretty specifically defined by my limited connection and awareness of the world around me... and without having any specifically substantive socialization to help ground me in the splashing waves of emergence and divergence of culture through their intersections and their bubbles, i find that i'm increasingly uncertain my opinion would accurately reflect anything.

since my search bias is mostly centered to my interests in things that i find to be enriching/uplifting/nourishing for my conception of human behavior, i'm more inclined to want to hold onto and preserve the precious treasures of comforts people find in externalizing their experiences and wishes through their crafts and professions. people learning about themselves or others, learning through new experiences and recognizing different patterns underlying their interiority and the environments that contextualize that.

i generally try to avoid carrying cynicism about it. if there's anything of the existing 16y/o to 26y/o generation (or some other approximate range near there) that i believe i would note...

...it's probably that we might fare better with a kinder (not necessarily "blindly saccharine" or something at the expense of sincerity, though people have their own rationale for how to value both sincerity and sweetness, or whether sincerity and/or sweetness must be absolute, and to what end or through which means-- additionally that sweetness can certainly happen to be sincere regardless of how it appears to others, it's probably more that many people believe it to Necessarily Sacrifice a kind of authentic sense of reality or practicality, and that kind of sentiment can be pretty complicated),

and gentler (not necessarily at the expense of whatever forms of pragmatism each respective person would prioritize. it seems people generally mock teens and young adults for yearning for some hopeful sense of identity and utopia, or perhaps worse, people pity them from the position and disposition of obstinately detached onlookers while sometimes coupled with some diverse attachment to what things should be and what we must've lost in order to explain the conditions of youth we presently find. i'm not sure i find their pity and accusations of delusion to be convincing or particularly constructive),

and more careful mosaic of contexts (not necessarily the "coddling" or "eggshell-walking" people seem to be wary of, but more accurately that we could be more cognizant/curious with cultural and interpersonally conversational patterns that cause damaging conflicts without purpose beyond insult, and then construct more meaningful patient relationships with each other's perspectives to be a bit more aware of what exactly we might have been wary of, without devaluing or resorting to derision of that if possible. it doesn't make us more "deserving" of a self-concept of "sensibility" if we do grow patient, which i note because a lot of people sort of hold their impression of their "reasonable" responses as being reflective of something, or they'll seem confused that someone else isn't listening somehow, often something akin to performatively playing the part of the "bigger" person. it could be genuine, of course, but it also doesn't really change that it causes a sort of obstinate relationship with people that conflict with them and wouldn't yield to them)...

...a mosaic of communities/cultures/environments to that effect, in order to actually be able to effectively learn from each other and nourish whatever it is we're looking for, whether for ourselves or others. that's particularly because of the general impression of people seeming overwhelmed and increasingly unwilling or less enabled to trustingly engage with the world around them... and from the kinds of background-and-foreground sociological pressure that exist here, i imagine people are a bit more likely to be pretty deeply crushed into some sort of fatigued inertia in their own little bubble of isolation, on average.

that being said, it's a pretty messy generalization, and i know plenty of communities that either don't experience this or otherwise have been more likely to relieve it through their connections with each other and their relations to their creative work within that circle.

well, i suppose we'll see what happens :>
Polyspora
447 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora
this post is so cringe.

the only mistake we are making is listening to people who will be 6 feet under when you (gen z) are the only ones actually moving the world in some years from now.

just have fun bro.

and for millenials who say the same bullshit, just take it as the older brother talking shit about the things you do and how you do it, even if it works.
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Biplane
4 posts
Joined July 2015
Biplane
my opinion as an early gen z is that generations are a made up thing to divide people and pin people against each other unnecessarily. how about we all hold hands or something?
Polyspora
447 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

Biplane wrote:

my opinion as an early gen z is that generations are a made up thing to divide people and pin people against each other unnecessarily.
thats dumb lol

a generation changes when habits change, millenials can relate to early IBM keyboards and macintosh, we cant, we can relate to club penguin and roblox, they cant.

its not the definition that separate us, its the experience
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NissingMo
52 posts
Joined October 2023
NissingMo

Polyspora wrote:

Biplane wrote:

my opinion as an early gen z is that generations are a made up thing to divide people and pin people against each other unnecessarily.
thats dumb lol

a generation changes when habits change, millenials can relate to early IBM keyboards and macintosh, we cant, we can relate to club penguin and roblox, they cant.

its not the definition that separate us, its the experience
I like this take. The only thing I would alter is that the experiences the previous generation has that is unique to the following generation is what distinguishes it, not the other way around. So to take your example, I’m a millennial who has fond memories of everything you described (interests of gen z). And millenials often have shared interests with gen x and even boomers. (My dad has a shared love of video games/technology with me and he’s a boomer).

Each generation has unique experiences to share with the younger ones. And I think that it takes a lot of time for a generation’s fully matured identity to play out. Which is really cool.
Mother Nature
Mother Nature
Gen Z is cool!
Winnyace
631 posts
Joined June 2016
Winnyace

Biplane wrote:

my opinion as an early gen z is that generations are a made up thing to divide people and pin people against each other unnecessarily. how about we all hold hands or something?
Dividing people into generations isn't done for discrimination. It is done in order to better dissect groups of people. You already do this yourself, in your own brain, to better understand and store information. It isn't done with the express purpose of dividing people up for discrimination. It is to more easily study social changes across a wide spectrum of individuals.
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Melodies
93 posts
Joined January 2016
Melodies
I literally hate anyone that is below the age of 20
Polyspora
447 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

Melodies wrote:

I literally hate anyone that is below the age of 20
gen z goes up to 27
MrRainbowDoge
285 posts
Joined July 2022
MrRainbowDoge

sametdze wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Everyone here is gen z or alpha.
What does alpha mean?
people born after 2009
nah it's 2010
Polyspora
447 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

MrRainbowDoge wrote:

sametdze wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Everyone here is gen z or alpha.
What does alpha mean?
people born after 2009
nah it's 2010
yes... thats after 2009...
MrRainbowDoge
285 posts
Joined July 2022
MrRainbowDoge

Polyspora wrote:

MrRainbowDoge wrote:

sametdze wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

Everyone here is gen z or alpha.
What does alpha mean?
people born after 2009
nah it's 2010
yes... thats after 2009...
i meant it was people who were born after 2010
mqwilliamscom
273 posts
Joined October 2021
mqwilliamscom
I still don't get skibidi toilet
Nanofranne
692 posts
Joined May 2018
Nanofranne

mqwilliamscom wrote:

I still don't get skibidi toilet
Winnyace
631 posts
Joined June 2016
Winnyace

mqwilliamscom wrote:

I still don't get skibidi toilet
You know memes like "Damn, Daniel" or "Shut up and take my money"? This is basically the evolution of those memes. It's a catch phrase, which refers a video someone made and people found it funny enough. There's nothing more to it.
sadave
76 posts
Joined April 2019
sadave

Winnyace wrote:

You know memes like "Damn, Daniel" or "Shut up and take my money"? This is basically the evolution of those memes. It's a catch phrase, which refers a video someone made and people found it funny enough. There's nothing more to it.
+1 this. every generation instantly go 'this (insert upcoming generation) is gonna be the worst generation' when every generation basically does the exact same thing except in a different environment. millenials used slang e.g. ikr, fr, af, lit etc.., gen z had dumb memes, and gen alpha also have their own dumb memes. . which was definitely brainrot to the older generation at the time.
koda14z
4 posts
Joined November 2021
koda14z

Aireunaeus wrote:

Do you really like the way gen z treat themselves nowadays?

I myself am from the generation z, and I'm honestly kinda disappointed on it. I do have hope in them, because we make the future a bit much easier to live than before.

What are your thoughts on them?

Edit: Question
Is this a survey-based question? just wanna ask, so I can improve on my thread ideas in GD ^^
GenZ are really doomed
I AM VERY SMART
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I AM VERY SMART

koda14z wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Do you really like the way gen z treat themselves nowadays?

I myself am from the generation z, and I'm honestly kinda disappointed on it. I do have hope in them, because we make the future a bit much easier to live than before.

What are your thoughts on them?

Edit: Question
Is this a survey-based question? just wanna ask, so I can improve on my thread ideas in GD ^^
GenZ are really doomed
At least there are some smart GenZ in this world
koda14z
4 posts
Joined November 2021
koda14z

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

koda14z wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Do you really like the way gen z treat themselves nowadays?

I myself am from the generation z, and I'm honestly kinda disappointed on it. I do have hope in them, because we make the future a bit much easier to live than before.

What are your thoughts on them?

Edit: Question
Is this a survey-based question? just wanna ask, so I can improve on my thread ideas in GD ^^
GenZ are really doomed
At least there are some smart GenZ in this world
agree
Arctos Sagittario
210 posts
Joined August 2011
Arctos Sagittario
kids

they'll properly grow up like every other gens in their own time
Polyspora
447 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

koda14z wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Do you really like the way gen z treat themselves nowadays?

I myself am from the generation z, and I'm honestly kinda disappointed on it. I do have hope in them, because we make the future a bit much easier to live than before.

What are your thoughts on them?

Edit: Question
Is this a survey-based question? just wanna ask, so I can improve on my thread ideas in GD ^^
GenZ are really doomed
At least there are some smart GenZ in this world
statistically gen z (1997-2010) should be smarter than the last gen, there is a difference between experience/knowledge and intelligence, besides, the feeling of a "dumber generation" (no scientific proof) is given due the current environment we live in, and saying its our fault for that is the same as saying the state of the economy we have now was the millennials fault.
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I AM VERY SMART
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I AM VERY SMART

Polyspora wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

koda14z wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Do you really like the way gen z treat themselves nowadays?

I myself am from the generation z, and I'm honestly kinda disappointed on it. I do have hope in them, because we make the future a bit much easier to live than before.

What are your thoughts on them?

Edit: Question
Is this a survey-based question? just wanna ask, so I can improve on my thread ideas in GD ^^
GenZ are really doomed
At least there are some smart GenZ in this world
statistically gen z (1997-2010) should be smarter than the last gen, there is a difference between experience/knowledge and intelligence, besides, the feeling of a "dumber generation" (no scientific proof) is given due the current environment we live in, and saying its our fault for that is the same as saying the state of the economy we have now was the millennials fault.
The older generations are always blaming the next ones for being dumb or something, and it's something I HATE
Polyspora
447 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Polyspora wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

koda14z wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Do you really like the way gen z treat themselves nowadays?

I myself am from the generation z, and I'm honestly kinda disappointed on it. I do have hope in them, because we make the future a bit much easier to live than before.

What are your thoughts on them?

Edit: Question
Is this a survey-based question? just wanna ask, so I can improve on my thread ideas in GD ^^
GenZ are really doomed
At least there are some smart GenZ in this world
statistically gen z (1997-2010) should be smarter than the last gen, there is a difference between experience/knowledge and intelligence, besides, the feeling of a "dumber generation" (no scientific proof) is given due the current environment we live in, and saying its our fault for that is the same as saying the state of the economy we have now was the millennials fault.
The older generations are always blaming the next ones for being dumb or something, and it's something I HATE
nah its normal and expected, you do that too, one proof is gen z shitting on gen alpha for the content they consume and "tiktok" I guess (we used to do the same shit with different apps like vine)
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Achromalia
342 posts
Joined November 2016
Achromalia

Polyspora wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

The older generations are always blaming the next ones for being dumb or something, and it's something I HATE
nah its normal and expected, you do that too, one proof is gen z shitting on gen alpha for the content they consume and "tiktok" I guess (we used to do the same shit with different apps like vine)
another notable observation would include the children raised primarily by tablets, as well as a variety of videos circulating around youtube that center on challenging classroom conditions for teachers where they receive consistent abuse from some students, with teachers quitting for their own health and sharing their testimony

and that tends to lead to a lot of commentary along the lines of worn-out age-old quotes like "kids dont have respect for authority these days", although this time probably being more frequently and legitimately substantiated in different ways within some contexts
Kaaruumii
843 posts
Joined November 2021
Kaaruumii
imo we should be a bit more friendly to newer generations but still point stuff out that genuinely is wrong/annoying to people and to tell cloutchasers that clout is not always a good thing. also i think shitting on kids for using tiktok is gonna make us the millenials/boomers they hate and blame then the cycle continues

i know its a levelheaded take but i really dont think bullying the next generations is the right answer (admittedly i have done that in the past for the fun of it but ill try my best to not resort to the easier yet more cruel answer anymore)
Wimpy Cursed
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Wimpy Cursed
A trainwreck.
I AM VERY SMART
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Funny how Kaaruumii is saying we need to stop bullying the next generations, then Wimpy Cursed follows with "A trainwreck."
Achromalia
342 posts
Joined November 2016
Achromalia

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Funny how Kaaruumii is saying we need to stop bullying the next generations, then Wimpy Cursed follows with "A trainwreck."
assuming you mean that wimpy's response is ironically an example of bullying younger generations, it could be interpretable as less of a form of mockery or bullying, and could just as easily be more like a weary but non-malicious grievance

and in complete fairness we Are a bit of a trainwreck, this generation is a mosaic of various conditions and we can be pretty awful and complicated just as well as we might be really treasurable and sweet

i imagine (or maybe fear) that this would be an example of some of that trainwreck, in that there's a maladaptive urge to clarify everything toward perfect representative accuracy as a result of having learned to respond this way to other circumstances and never knowing how to flexibly replace it with a viable alternative

socialization is hard :') and that's very gen z indeed
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Naiad
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Joined May 2019
Naiad
Different generations have never been and never will be as different as they perceive each other. This isn't to say that there aren't differences.
I AM VERY SMART
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Achromalia wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Funny how Kaaruumii is saying we need to stop bullying the next generations, then Wimpy Cursed follows with "A trainwreck."
assuming you mean that wimpy's response is ironically an example of bullying younger generations, it could be interpretable as less of a form of mockery or bullying, and could just as easily be more like a weary but non-malicious grievance

and in complete fairness we Are a bit of a trainwreck, this generation is a mosaic of various conditions and we can be pretty awful and complicated just as well as we might be really treasurable and sweet

i imagine (or maybe fear) that this would be an example of some of that trainwreck, in that there's a maladaptive urge to clarify everything toward perfect representative accuracy as a result of having learned to respond this way to other circumstances and never knowing how to flexibly replace it with a viable alternative

socialization is hard :') and that's very gen z indeed
Which is why I said it was funny of course. There are people here who just bully generations without any malicious intent. Even I do that with my friends sometimes. We are aware that no generation is perfect and gen z is just one of many examples.
kyky123
5 posts
Joined May 2023
kyky123
better than gen alpha
yoma888
1 post
Joined August 2019
yoma888
ban me
Polyspora
447 posts
Joined September 2019
Polyspora

diggynigguh wrote:

ban me
wtf
crusader_old_3
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crusader_old_3
Note to self, only take the opinions of actual Gen-Z'ers on Gen Z.
I AM VERY SMART
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crusader_old_3 wrote:

Note to self, only take the opinions of actual Gen-Z'ers on Gen Z.
This is we.
Eyeonized
151 posts
Joined September 2017
Eyeonized
idk. i think that alot of the stuff that we used to watch as kids is the same stuff as what they do now. im sure alot of them will grow up to be great. honestly i look at the state of most adults right now and i think most of them are nuts lol
NikoN1nja
61 posts
Joined April 2022
NikoN1nja
Same as any other generation before us ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
pixaisa1
52 posts
Joined June 2018
pixaisa1
Every gen got this part of "brain rot" shit. In my times, the brain rot was Youtube Poop and MLG cringe videos. It was funny for this time, and I'm sure, that people older 18+ years, just hated this content.

Anyway, I think that these kids, who are watching skibidi toilets and shits, are passing their funniest time in this life, and I'm saying this because I was these kids, who watched MLG and Youtube Poop. I just respect it.

Thing that I hate of this gen, are mothers, that don't want to educate their children. Instead of giving attention to kids, they are giving them phone with stupid shit asf. This, what I really hate of this gen, this is evil of this gen.
StarsCastle
2 posts
Joined August 2024
StarsCastle
As a gen z myself I think we're not doing too bad. Media and older generations make it seem like society is doomed cause of gen z and they do this especially with gen alpha but that's exactly what older generations said about millennials and its always the same "concerns" cause older generations will always complain about the next (＠_＠;) I think gen z is doing fine imo heehee :3
- kuroneko
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Joined December 2020
- kuroneko
I feel like gen z has the potential to change the world as we see it today, however with the stuff that is currently happening right now, it's pretty bleak.
meepzy
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Joined March 2023
meepzy
maybye a little cooked >_<
I AM VERY SMART
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StarsCastle wrote:

As a gen z myself I think we're not doing too bad. Media and older generations make it seem like society is doomed cause of gen z and they do this especially with gen alpha but that's exactly what older generations said about millennials and its always the same "concerns" cause older generations will always complain about the next (＠_＠;) I think gen z is doing fine imo heehee :3
As you said, the older generations hating on the newer ones is a never-ending cycle that has been going on for decades. There are always people to hate on Gen Z because it's not like before and not natural
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