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Poll 10: Do you delete map elements?

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Do you delete map elements?

I delete everything on _every_ map (SB/Background/Skin).
31
11.44%
I delete elements on a regular basis.
29
10.70%
I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.
130
47.97%
I play the maps as they were made.
81
29.89%
Total votes: 271
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Shiro
Only when they really prevent me from playing.
This is the case mostly with storyboards (although I just rename the elements and don't delete them). I can't really handle pulses and flashes (examples: David Guetta ft Akon - Sexy Bitch or Baracuda - Where Is The Love) or when they really make me lag (example: HTT - No, Thank You!).

As for skins, I have the same behaviour (with higher standards - that is I delete them more often than storyboards). And I automatically delete spinners that are drawn or that don't show the center, which makes spinning impossible for me.

And I very rarely delete backgrounds - only when the combo colours seriously blend with it (I don't have examples that I remember of...).
GladiOol
I delete 95% of the custom made skins and about 25% of the storyboards.

I mean, most skins are just retarded to say the least, they are unreadable, 300/100/50 which look the same and diffrent colors for geki etc. beats. All just silly imo, has to be deleted.
0_o
Even back when I played seriously I always considered adjusting to different storyboards/skins as a skill to be mastered, just like any other playing techniques. I enjoyed the challenge of the heart approach circles in ztrot's Love Shine and I eventually got used to it. Though in cases where the skins/SB/color selections made it too annoying to play, I simply deleted the map and moved on (can't think of any specific examples since I don't remember the maps that I delete :P)

I've always thought deleting those elements was a cheap way of getting a high score, and I'm actually pretty surprised that I'm the minority here.

As a disclaimer though I WILL say that I don't play 95% of the japanese/anime stuff out there, so I may be oblivious to exactly how bad some of these skins/storyboards actually are.
Natteke
I like to play maps with my skin only. Also most storyboards cause lags so I delete them as well. So yeah, mp3, background and .osu files are all I leave in the map.
Kitsunemimi
I tend to delete skins most of the time because they're often ridiculous to play with. Certain skin elements (such as the lifebar or hitcircles+overlay) I leave intact because they work well, but stuff like the spinners and sliderballs I don't like so much.

I often move storyboards/.osbs to a different folder due to the fact that they make maps unplayable (or unpassable I should say) for me, and I often end up failing. I occasionally delete them if they're just random flashes and excessively laggy.

I used to only rarely move backgrounds to a different folder; but as I begin to get better and play harder maps, the input lag becomes more significant so I've been removing backgrounds more often lately.

As soon as a I get a better machine (if I do), I doubt I will even remove backgrounds, and I'll only move sbs when trying to do hardcore maps.
Cuddlebun
I delete anything that gives me seizures or headaches, so usually any sb that makes flashes and such.

Everything else I leave intact, even if it's ugly or annoying.
IzayoiJun
Have yet to delete anything, even when it's interfere with playing.
I just play as it was made and consider it some type of added difficulty.
Azure_Kite
No I do not. No I never have.
deadbeat
only if i find it hard to play with it. so i normally delete pulsing sb's and annoying hitcircles
SapphireGhost
Mianki
I delete SBs if they cause lag. I rarely delete custom skins or backgrounds.
Examples which SBs I've deleted:
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17912
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/12191
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/17670
Attertwo
Skins pretty much always have to go, same goes for parts of the storyboard that puts me out of rhytm. However, while a lot of people seem to frown upon storyboards with flashes/pulses i find that they do, if timed correctly, both makes the map more enjoyable and makes me play better.

What I find interesting however is that you ask not only about backgrounds, skins and storyboard elements, but also storyboards themselves. I always assumed there'd be some kind of serversidedcheck to assure you were using the correct one, but since you have to ask, does that mean that you do actually not make sure that the correct storyboard is used, and that the only thing stopping anyone from completely combating the hidden, and partially combating the flashlight mod with a custom SB, is the amount of time they would have to invest?
Vanmonky
I never want to change anything of mappers' masterpieces.
FireballFlame
As far as I can remember I haven't removed anything on any map, ever.
And I remember only one map I've ever played on novideo.

By the way, it says "Poll runs till -319448 seconds ago" at the top :lol:
Zerostarry
I replace/delete skins, backgrounds, and all that stuff if i'm unable to FC it on the 5th try or so.

Then i'll place them back after I FC it.
Mashley
Never delete stuff, I just rage about them on irc and play a different map
Piotrekol

Zerostarry wrote:

I replace/delete skins, backgrounds, and all that stuff if i'm unable to FC it on the 5th try or so.

Then i'll place them back after I FC it.
same
haha5957
Only when it confuses me.

but many of those that have custom circle and hit effect usually confuses me

I never delete BGs or hitsounds but circles and effects are usually deleted.
ziin
pink on pink, white/gray on white/gray, heart shaped approach circles, and similarly colored hitbursts are all things I delete. They are also the only things I delete.

Storyboards are seldom annoying or lag me. I seldom delete anything.
Fabi
I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.
Example: I can't see the cursor nor the circles properly.
Card N'FoRcE

ziin wrote:

pink on pink
But, but.... but i made black overlays/sliderborders to increase the visibility of the beats ;_;

Slightly quoting white/gray on white/gray things (this map aaaaaaaaah), but sometimes enabling/disabling video (depends on the beatmap itself) helps me play.
Cyclohexane
I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.

Which are heavy SB's (S_i_R_i_R_u's, for example)
Horribad skins
Heavy BG's (Mind you some of them make me drop to 30 fps, a good example is The Killers - Somedy Told Me on [Hard])
And sometimes I get rid of SB's to get into precision mode and try to FC/Clear, even though I do it very rarely
pjiang621111
"I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing." ...is what I chose, since it best fits my situation.

Generally, I don't delete anything - I just move them all into a new folder that I will create in the song folder.

I prefer the ouendan2 skin more than any other skin, so I usually remove the skins in the folders, as it actually bothers me if I don't see the skin. But there are exceptions, and sometimes I would leave the preset skin alone because it fits, looks good, and/or it doesn't bother me much.

I do have a strict policy though. Backgrounds showing anime girls in a somewhat seductive manner or any bg with a girl in it that I don't feel would be best for my family and others to see will be removed on sight. I maintain a PG-13 environment back home, and I don't want other people making assumptions or saying anything about me if they see a background like that while I am playing.
Avedas
Anything with a halfway terrible skin gets deleted. I'll usually leave the SB and I always leave the BG.
KRZY
I delete everything cuz it's easier to play that way >_> lame, I know, but that's how I play
wmfchris
I'll delete the elements that cause flashy scene, as well as 50/100/300 elements.
Sleep Powder
I chose the option "I play the maps as they were made" but I actually tend to avoid playing maps with high amounts of SB unless the map is actually enjoyable. (or in special cases where the SB is better than the map) *

Reasons include:
  1. Lag
  1. Distraction
  1. Custom skin elements like cursor or hitsounds.
Zhanger_old
I typically delete elements when they interfere with playing or when I need a scapegoat for doing badly on a map ~_~.
But I usually just dislike the 300,100,50 images cause typically the colors are different and I rely on the color rather than number to know what i got ;s

animask wrote:

I chose the option "I play the maps as they were made" but I actually tend to avoid playing maps with high amounts of SB unless the map is actually enjoyable. (or in special cases where the SB is better than the map) *

Reasons include:
  1. Lag
  1. Distraction
  1. Custom skin elements like cursor or hitsounds.
you can choose to have your default skin's cursor overwrite any custom one - just fyi :P

too bad its only the cursor T^T
ferailo9
The only sb ive ever removed was in Nightcore - Jump Jump

But I put it into a new folder and then put it back because it's JUST TOO FUN TO NOT WATCH.
KoumeSh
The SPINNER blends well to the mouse cursor (even if you change the cursor)... can't see it very well...
I can't get a higher bonuses...

BTW, I still not deleting those spinner skins even if I want to... because I still get a 300...
Kaoru Evans
I only move the SB (when i have lag) to other folder and later i restore it :3
Kodoshi
I delete everything in every map because it helps me a lot on increasing the fps so i can move faster, and by faster i mean more normal than a laggy retarded movement.

I'm doing this only because it helps me playing better if the computer has a better performance, i couldn't have cared less about the visual stuff if they didn't do anything to my weak computer :|

When i'll get a better computer ( i don't think it will happen soon though..) i'll stop deleting stuff.
Gens
I play the maps as they were made. Maybe because I find it too bothersome to go find the beatmap's folder and delete everything there.
When something lags me, I just wait for my computer to get "better" (restarting often helps), or just play something else. Storyboards generally don't affect me though; whenever I get lag spikes, I get them globally, and I can get through any skin pretty much fine (except of course if it's an horribly horrible skin, but I don't recall any, probably because I don't play as much anime as everyone else).
lyh20050329
If I delete the elements.
I think the map will be tedious~~~

maybe it will let me make more "miss" when I'am playing.

but I think It is the important parts of th OSU!

I like them~~~
Teras
Maps should be played as they were meant to be. The only exception I would make is if it's as flashy as that map James made a while ago.
blazen_old
You can delete custom skins? I did not even know you could do that. Some custom skins really kill me. I guess I play them as they are meant to be.
ab721112

statementreply wrote:

  1. sb that causes lag
  2. sb that makes me feel sick (eg. with the whole image flashing/rotating/moving)
  3. hit 300 100 50 if the colors look alike
  4. spinner without center
  5. approachcircle and hitcircleoverlay sometimes
  6. ...
Ekoro
I've forget if i have already post here...


Hum , it depends. If it's only "switch-BG", it's okay , but if it's like Strange Program , huh , no no no D:
lkjl23
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KRZY

NeverDie wrote:

on my horrible computer (which I'm sure most players in countries like china have)
...the typical ignorant American/banana



Also yeah I know peppy keeps saying SB lags aren't supposed to happen but, truth is, they do.
ziin
China makes most of our electronics and thus can get them for cheaper...
LaceWingfield
well i didn't delete anything
because i already get used with some annoying elements.
Maxer00
I only delete those super-special-HD quality-awesome videos,when I get tired of 'no-video' them,because my PC is a monster...in a old way,ya know.
loli66
well i not delet elements becuase sometimes this elements are need for help in the experience of play that map, but sometimes i only download with the option "download without video" because the video sometimes give lag very bad
Equivalent_old
When it come to disturb my gameplay, no doubt I will delete it immediately. As a player, I prefer more score than art
Gon
Delete elements on a regular basis. I've been playing on black backgrounds on other rhythm games and I still prefer to keep it that way.
SYSEN
no because i was too lazy to search the song folder
01180278

peppy wrote:

Deleting storybaords, backgrounds and skins is possible due to the currently open nature of beatmaps. Without getting into a debate over what is right or wrong, I would like to know the general ratio of people who do this -- mainly to reinforce my beliefs that the number isn't as high as some people think.

If you make a post starting any kind of debate it will be removed.

If you choose the last option, providing examples of maps is highly encouraged!
Nadina120
I play no vid
Vulf
No video is perma on.

Only thing that really bothers me are some of the custom skins. I prefer my own skin most of the time ;)
mokona99
I delete backgrounds when they are suggestive or borderline-NSFW as I play osu! in my living room.
Rena-chan
Hell no !
If anything, I add a custom skin, video, or SB to maps that deserve it. No deleting things here, unless they make maps REALLY unplayable.
OzzyOzrock
I've only ever deleted HORRIBLY distracting SBs, such as ones that move around, which can REALLY be bad on taiko, and a skin that just made playing painful, because it was half transparent.

Hell no !
If anything, I add a custom skin, video, or SB to maps that deserve it. No deleting things here, unless they make maps REALLY unplayable.
The hell? How ;_;?
Decipher

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I've only ever deleted HORRIBLY distracting SBs, such as ones that move around, which can REALLY be bad on taiko, and a skin that just made playing painful, because it was half transparent.
Heh, agreed. I do same too. A_A
07 Ghost
I delete pretty much all of that. Screw owner's skins. I'm going to play how I want to play.
KRZY

07 Ghost wrote:

I delete pretty much all of that. Screw owner's skins. I'm going to play how I want to play.

'ㅅ')b
Crakila
Say for example - Infected Mushroom - Becoming Insane has a annoying strobing effect which annoys me. I had to delete the flashing.

Same applied to Alice Deejay - Better Off Alone

Maybe there should be a rule to not use these types of strobing..for anyone!!
Cheer-no
I only deleted the BG on StrangeProgram. Too headache-inducing...
Rena-chan

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Hell no !
If anything, I add a custom skin, video, or SB to maps that deserve it. No deleting things here, unless they make maps REALLY unplayable.
The hell? How ;_;?
.osb editing. As long as I don't touch the .osu, I can insert however many SB elements I want in an already ranked map without breaking it for me. :>
Wishy
I should change my vote to always.
Randy96
that's hard core
excellions
delete everything
Kei

mokona99 wrote:

I delete backgrounds when they are suggestive or borderline-NSFW as I play osu! in my living room.
Omega
I am not one for deleting map elements. But I often replace them with a properly colored/better/easier to see ones. Or sometimes replace a normal video with another of a higher quality. Some backgrounds are really difficult to tolerate, being in a household with three children under ten years of age, those I delete/replace with similarly colored,"Safer" ones. Though, to be honest, I could also live with not being able to delete or change anything -- it will not make life much harder, I would simply have to disregard such maps/give them a low rating for their inability to provide a level of entertainment that reaches all ages and is unrestricting to play. (I sometimes try to suggest better options to the "offending" mapper when feasible)
pieguyn
Update: I rename map elements only when trying to play something with HR or DT. It makes everything easier because I can then read the followpoints, so I can read the map a lot better. I'll put it back when I'm done though. :?

(Now I completely understand why a lot of pro players delete stuff, HR and DT are practically impossible if you add a BG~ o.o)
Raging Bull
I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.

I play with white cursor so white BG + kiai and I'll be wtfblind.
bwross
I also don't delete... I put troublesome elements in a bak directory, which makes it easy to restore as well as find the maps I've changed.

The reasons:

1) Flashes. Most maps with the warning I have no problem with (I'm not epileptic)... but a handful hit me pretty hard with nausea and disorientation, which can still be effecting me an hour later. After it happened the first time I've become more proactive with removing flash images from maps at the first sign that they might effect me.

2) Can't easily see some or all of the approach circles (because if I didn't want to see them, I'd turn on Hidden). On some maps, it's because of the circles themselves... thin or partially transparent. A lot of the time it's because of one or two combo groups which blend too well with the background... sometimes its pastels on pastels, but a lot of the time it's a dark colour (typically near black grey, purple, or blue) on a dark background. A lot of the time I put up with it, but I really hate it. If there were controls to alter combo colours in the game, probably be using them a lot.

3) Things I think are just pointless... like replacing the combo break sound with a silent one.

Most other annoying stuff I put up with.


I will also admit that I have been tempted to do what others have suggested like replacing videos... either with higher quality ones, or with different videos (like replacing some of the Bad Apple videos for other versions just for variety). Similarly, there are a number of maps that use the same background (or no background)... I've been tempted to change some of those.
lolcubes
In most cases if the bg is very detailed (i.e. lots of colors, or other details) I will delete it in a heartbeat.
If it's a more simple one, then it all depends on the combo colors if I delete it or not.
All SB (unless it's really subtle) get's deleted instantly as well.
And I want to use my own skin only, so in 99% cases a skin which uses too detailed hitcircles and/or a custom hitburst skin, it just has to go. ;x;
Ussuru
I hate bright bgs, they are a huge pain in the butt. I like my custom skin which I made myself, I am happy with it, thank you, don't force me to play a TOUHOU or default skin EVER again, please... I beg you. But if you really, really tried your skin on all diffs not just easy, and you found that awesome, you skinned it and made an awesome SB which is helpful and not being an offense to my eyes then yes, I won't delete it. Until I put HR+DT there.
Nazeko
• I delete elements only when they severely interfere with playing.
• Also, I delete them if they are not safe for work, ecchi stuff, etc
• I delete inverted background as SB :o
[Au]-[Revoir]

excellions wrote:

delete everything
shaNk_old
Pretty sure most top tier players delete everything as it has a big impact on ur gameplay, and so do I , I'd rather have better gameplay instead of cool looking (he says hoping not to see forced bgs on osz2 : P)
-Shi_old
Deleting everything, especially crappy skins that gives a weird feel to the gameplay. (one map had an 8-bit pokemon skin, that was when I started to delete everyting)
Saya Takagi_old
i delete BG to use Flashlights in longs songs..
Yarissa
I delete everything all day erry day. Having anything other from default skin seriously makes me angry.
Nactra
wether i'm playing competitively (solo) or casually(multi), i awlays have my song folder open so i can delete_every_single_visuals.
any form of visuals that aren't essiential part of the gameplay should not be there in the first place.
i don't delete custom histounds tough.but mostly beacause they never bother me,not beacause i like them.
RhaiizoN
Im playing with a blank background(black). I just rename it the title name for ex: 'BG' changed to 'BG(space)asdassadasd' instead of delete the BG, SB or other elements
Haruhi_sama
;)
palion
i love deleting bgs, sbs, and skins

does that make me a bad person :\
Esupanitix
Skin elements, only if they're obnoxious and annoying to play with.

Other than that, no.
FrozenOG
I NEVER delete elements. I changed quite a few options in osu! and everything runs fine. Even on my 2-year-old laptop running osu! from a 1TB External HDD.
Louis Cyphre
I'm doing following everytime:
Renaming Background name from BG to BGa, renaming osb file from xxxxx.osb to xxxxxa.osb. And when i want to take it back, i just rename files to original names.
Dedylllka_GROM
Deleting by rename only if it distracts me from getting easy hit after 5-10 tries. After getting good result, I'm returning it back. Otherwise, no.
Haseo_old

Esupanitix wrote:

Skin elements, only if they're obnoxious and annoying to play with.

Other than that, no.
Neruell
Personally I think that "most" players in osu! don't delete all the elements. Some just like they way it looks and don't go straight into #1 on super insane's, others simply "respect" the mapper's work and keep it even if it may be so bad "created", some people maybe don't even know how to do it, or don't even think about it.

I played without deleting anything for a year and was "happy" untill I realised that deleting/replacing some stuff can help me improve on some maps. Although in the end if you play the map 100000 times you can for sure play even blind and nothing will disturb you since you just memorized everything, but using "this" just makes it less frustrating. I am sure that this issue with deleting anything about the map itself mostly concerns only people who try to get higher rank / top 40 at least.

So actually there are for sure not SO many people doing that, but I guess for people like me and I guess it's the minority, it is very "important" to have such a "freedom" to delete anything, or replace with our own, of course except for music/video.
AuraBlaze
I did not even know it was possible to delete elements from a beatmap. Although the poll ended before I even knew osu! existed, I still have something to say to reply here. If I do choose to delete elements, it would be these:

Video Backgrounds: Nothing personal about it. I would delete videos from the background to save space on my hard drive.

Background Images: Up until now I had completely deleted several beatmaps from my library because of an image in the background. Now that I know I can delete the background image itself, it shouldn't happen anyone. No examples of what I have deleted will be given --because everyone has different opinions on what is offensive material, this is irrelevant anyway.
Qliphoth_old
Just Look my signature.

I delete every ".jpg, .png, .osb, .avi, .flv, .wmv, .mpg" file... It's so annoying play with BG or SB (I don't delete BG when exist a black circle, damn with it)
Neruell
Btw I don't mind even redownloading everything again after deleting but mostly after I have achieved everything I wanted since it does look way more beautiful with all the elements.
Qliphoth_old
When osz2 comes, a lot of people just leave the game... I think.
MMzz

xMatryoshka wrote:

When osz2 comes, a lot of people just leave the game... I think.
10$ says someone will just crack it and tell everyone how to =p
Sander-Don

MMzz wrote:

xMatryoshka wrote:

When osz2 comes, a lot of people just leave the game... I think.
10$ says someone will just crack it and tell everyone how to =p
I know 2 people that already know how to do it. js
Neruell
well it would be bannable then and even though most people wont risk it then but anyway "when osz2 will come" I hear that since 2 years and since then nothing happened. Till it really comes out people will for sure leave osu.
Farmer_old
delete everything. if i dont delete it, how can i play HR and DT?
Mercurial

Farmer wrote:

delete everything. if i dont delete it, how can i play HR and DT?

Well, just play THIS in CTB with Hidden and that annoying SB, it's impossible.
Xanaehla
I play the maps as they were made ~
VoidnOwO
I delete everything every time when the map's BG isn't related to the song in any way. ztrot
Disturbing SB isn't really an issue since I'd have to play the map at least once before trying a real score anyway, and then I could just disable it.

MMzz wrote:

someone will just crack it and tell everyone how to =p
TheVileOne
Never.

Not much point to now anyways. I have a 40 GB Harddrive. If you're complaining your maps take up too much space, then you need to consider removing other content from your HDD.
Stefan
This necro. lol
Anyway, there is no sense to delete Map Elements anymore because you-know-why.
loldcraft
I sometimes change the health drain.(to make it easier) I like seeing how i can "level up" my health drain and eventually pass on the song's default health drain.
Mercurial
This thread became useless and needs to be closed.

Meh.-
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