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Beuchi
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Beuchi
Hello~

Storyboard mod :3

Thoughts and Suggestions
- Add a new bg strobe at 01:24:395?
- I suggest you to start animating wave 01 from a place where the borders can't be seen. If you look to the bottom right corner when the image starts moving, you can see its border :c

Issues and Adjustments
- Remove the unnecesary transparency on black-cover.
- SAKURA BIG exceeds the max size for storyboard elements. Please resize it to, at least, 800x600px.
- Hmm is it just me or Lyrics 30 appears 1/2 later than it should?

Little normal mod :3

~Normal~
- I think this diff, even being nice for a Normal, needs some improvement to be nice as the easiest diff. There are lots of 1/2 streams and the spacing changes don't help at all, it makes it even more confusing.

Leorda
01:06:877 (1,2,3,4) - This will be probably better if you change it for a slider.
01:20:891 (5,6,7) - Same as above.

ZLOdeuka
01:50:235 (1,2) - Please... NO jumps on easier diffs!! ;_;
01:52:862 (2,3) - ^
01:55:052 (1,2) - ^
02:11:913 (1,2) - ^
02:21:110 (3,4) - ^

~Hard~

Leorda
03:17:826 (6) - This pause feels awkward >:
03:19:578 (6) - ^

ZLOdeuka
Not a real problem, but there are a lot of /random/ 1/4 notes stacked on sliders that don't really follow anything on the song...

02:12:461 (2) - Move 1/4 later?

Good luck with this :3
TTTTTTTTTTTT
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TTTTTTTTTTTT
starr~
Leorda
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Leorda

Beuchi-chan wrote:

- SAKURA BIG exceeds the max size for storyboard elements. Please resize it to, at least, 800x600px.
Seriously, Mom. As Jarby said, the SB elements are ALLOWED to use the size that over 800x600, see here viewtopic.php?p=645666#p645666. So yeah, no change for this and Fuck Off
peppy
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peppy
Firstly, telling someone to f* off when they are trying to help you is the wrong way to go about it. Rethink your attitude, please.

There's no reason to have an 1000x800 image. osu! runs internally at a sprite resolution of 1024x768. If you WERE to have one image larger than 640x480, having it more than 768 pixels high would be pointless (unless vertically scrolling). 1000x768 would make sense if you were horizontally scrolling (and only then). 960x768 would make sense if you are displaying it as a background which fills the horizontal length of the screen (at a scale of 1.06666667).

Edit: If the image was 1024x768 (as in, 4:3 aspect ratio) AND you weren't using the background image in the storyboard, then this would be marginally acceptable under the same premise I allowed Jarby to do so.

If I was a mod attending to this map I would make a note never to visit this thread again. If any of the people that have helped you decide to continue doing so, you may want to thank them for dealing with your personality.
Leorda
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Leorda

peppy wrote:

Firstly, telling someone to f* off when they are trying to help you is the wrong way to go about it. Rethink your attitude, please.

There's no reason to have an 1000x800 image. osu! runs internally at a sprite resolution of 1024x768. If you WERE to have one image larger than 640x480, having it more than 768 pixels high would be pointless (unless vertically scrolling). 1000x768 would make sense if you were horizontally scrolling (and only then). 960x768 would make sense if you are displaying it as a background which fills the horizontal length of the screen (at a scale of 1.06666667).

Edit: If the image was 1024x768 (as in, 4:3 aspect ratio) AND you weren't using the background image in the storyboard, then this would be marginally acceptable under the same premise I allowed Jarby to do so.

If I was a mod attending to this map I would make a note never to visit this thread again. If any of the people that have helped you decide to continue doing so, you may want to thank them for dealing with your personality.
ok then, sorry peppy and Beuchi-chan :(

EDIT : Should I resize all to below 1024x768 or keep it?
Kurai
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Nothing wrong for me, except that the normal is a bit too hard as the easiest difficulty :/
Star~
Leorda
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KuraiPettan wrote:

Nothing wrong for me, except that the normal is a bit too hard as the easiest difficulty :/
Star~
what? Should I make another diff?
Sallad4ever
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Leorda wrote:

what? Should I make another diff?
No you don't have to. I'm guessing that the different spacing that you 2 used is making modder think this isn't acceptable as easiest diff. I personally think it's fine though

[General]
- read this to make a perfect slider

[Normal]
00:57:023 (1,2,3) - the whole rhythm in this notes is kinda weird, I suggest to follow the lyric closely here
01:45:855 (3,1) - no jump in the easiest diff, please.
02:11:913 (1,2) - ^
02:21:110 (3,4) - ^
02:23:957 (4,5) - ^
02:25:928 (1,2) - ^
if you insist in keeping these jumps, you have to make an easy diff (better remove the jumps than making another diff)

[Hard]
NICE!! :D
00:52:205 (2) - the normal spacing is very anti-climax after the previous increased jump. I suggest making this into jump to
01:03:154 (6) - fix the spacing please
01:53:191 (3,4,5) - I agree with Beuchi-chan the 1/4 beat like this is strange. There are many others like this and I can't agree with most of them ;_;

Yeah nice map, just those jumps are my biggest concern
Good Luck Leo
~Star

Kamu harus hati2 dengan apa yg kamu tulis, g nyangka sampai peppy yang turun tangan marahin kamu :o
IceBeam
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IceBeam
Hey man.

I was modding ZLOdeuka's part for a while ago via IRC,so I'll focus mostly on your parts.

By the way,add her to Tags :|

No epilepsy warning? It seems neccessary to add it.

[Normal]
00:28:337 (1,2,3,4,5) - Not really neccessary,but if you move it 3 grids right it will be absolutely symmetrical.Why not to use it if you can?
00:35:344 (1) - Finish?
00:49:359 - ^
00:57:023 (1,2,3,1,2) - All this stuff sounds wrong to me.Try this:
SPOILER
ATTACH[]
Also,add 00:56:804 note if you think it's needed,but consider it will be hard to hit after spinner.
01:06:877 (1) - Fix spacing.
01:12:789 (2) - ^
01:13:884 (10) - ^
02:55:490 (1) - Finish?
Again,what about ZLOdeuka's parts - personally I'm mostly against jumps in Normal.In any way,spacing or etc.Moreover,if it's the easiest difficulty.
Spacing is not a such a big deal,although difference feels slightly.

[Hard]
00:35:344 (1) - Finish?
00:49:359 (1) - ^
00:51:986 (1,2,3,4,1) - That's kinda hard to read,because 00:52:862 (1) is so close to previous object.Well,it's within the rules,but it was hard to me to read.
02:08:848 (3,4,5,6,7) - Oh damn,add a note to 02:09:505.
03:37:534 (2) - Finish.
03:46:731 (4) - Remove finish.

Awesome SB,btw.
Good job,star.

OzzyOzrock
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[Normal]
This is good :3

[Hard]
Shouldn't this be a Lunatic diff? orz


star~

sb is awesome
Leorda
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Leorda
@Sallad4ever and IceBeam : some lots of fixed, thx
@OzzyOzrock : no changes, sorry
TTTTTTTTTTTT
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TTTTTTTTTTTT
frankly speaking

didn't see something wrong

although Normal diff has a different spacing,it not make me confusing

Normal

00:42:789(3) - might remove finish
03:46:731(4) - look not pretty enough since overlap with 03:48:045 (1)

Hard

01:13:884(1) - look not pretty due to this slider touch the HP bar
01:46:731(1) - as the pic shown
to avoid overlap,so..


Storyboard...

Storyboard/Black - 01:38:191
maybe finish fade at 01:38:410,and make Black disapear at 01:38:629

and move this Black to the bottom
Leorda
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TTTTTTTTTTTT wrote:

frankly speaking

didn't see something wrong

although Normal diff has a different spacing,it not make me confusing

Normal

00:42:789(3) - might remove finish NO WAY
03:46:731(4) - look not pretty enough since overlap with 03:48:045 (1) Moved

Hard

01:13:884(1) - look not pretty due to this slider touch the HP bar Moved
01:46:731(1) - as the pic shown Moved
to avoid overlap,so..
[attachment=0:d7189]1.png[/attachment:d7189]

Storyboard...

Storyboard/Black - 01:38:191
maybe finish fade at 01:38:410,and make Black disapear at 01:38:629

and move this Black to the bottom NONONONO
Edit : NVM
Kecco
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Kecco

_llkey_18 wrote:

ZLOdeuka wrote:

You should add me to tag? D:

yes, she should

Leorda wrote:

ZLOdeuka wrote:

You should add me to tag? D:
opss, i'll fix that

@_llkey_18 : I am not girl, I am boy, also, don't double post. Use edit next time~
Epic.

•Hard•
-) Nazi : 00:59:870 (1) - Last build-point of this slider : 1 grid up?
-) Nazi : 01:13:884 (1) - ^
-) 01:47:388 - I'd add a note here, but I don't like noteset 01:46:731 (1,2) -. What about make another noteset at the place of that like this -> http://puu.sh/18nf ?
-)[/b ]02:06:986 - I'd add a not here, remove 02:07:643 (5,6) and add a note here 02:07:753. Many noteset with blue ticks are going to be repetitive.
[b]-) 02:53:738 (7) - New combo?
-) 02:59:213 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - Replace those notes like this http://puu.sh/18nj ?
-) Nazi : 03:20:016 (1) - Last build-point of this slider : 1 grid up?
-) 03:58:556 (1) - New combo? Just to give more emphasis (? XD)

•Normal•
-) 00:40:162 (1) - This slide... is a bit crooked? Could you fix it?
-) 01:51:986 (3,4,1) - Uhhh, this noteset... is a bit trippy for a normal player! What about moving elsewhere those 2 notes 01:52:424 (4,1) ?
-) Nazi : 01:53:738 (3) - Second build-point 1 grid down and Last build-point 1 grid down and 1 right?
-) 02:07:534 (2) - Uhhh, this note... is a bit trippy for a normal player! What about moving it elsewhere?
-) 02:50:235 (5) - New combo?
-) 02:53:738 (3) - New combo?
-) 03:23:081 (4) - Remove whistle.
-) 03:23:300 (5) - Add whistle.
-) 03:44:541 (1) - Uhhh, this note... is a bit trippy for a normal player! What about moving it elsewhere?
-) Nazi : 03:53:738 (4) - Second build-point 2 grids down?

Very nice Map and Storyboard.
Great Job Leo and ZLO.
+Star~
Leorda
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Kecco wrote:

•Hard•
-) Nazi : 00:59:870 (1) - Last build-point of this slider : 1 grid up? OK
-) Nazi : 01:13:884 (1) - ^ OK
-) 01:47:388 - I'd add a note here, but I don't like noteset 01:46:731 (1,2) -. What about make another noteset at the place of that like this -> http://puu.sh/18nf ? No, thanks
-)[/b ]02:06:986 - I'd add a not here, remove 02:07:643 (5,6) and add a note here 02:07:753. Many noteset with blue ticks are going to be repetitive. No, thanks
[b]-) 02:53:738 (7) - New combo? Added
-) 02:59:213 (3,4,5,1,2,3) - Replace those notes like this http://puu.sh/18nj ? No
-) Nazi : 03:20:016 (1) - Last build-point of this slider : 1 grid up? Moved
-) 03:58:556 (1) - New combo? Just to give more emphasis (? XD) Deuka was new combo here to notice that this slider are slow

•Normal•
-) 00:40:162 (1) - This slide... is a bit crooked? Could you fix it? OK
-) 01:51:986 (3,4,1) - Uhhh, this noteset... is a bit trippy for a normal player! What about moving elsewhere those 2 notes 01:52:424 (4,1) ? Fixed, by delete the note....
-) Nazi : 01:53:738 (3) - Second build-point 1 grid down and Last build-point 1 grid down and 1 right? No
-) 02:07:534 (2) - Uhhh, this note... is a bit trippy for a normal player! What about moving it elsewhere? OK
-) 02:50:235 (5) - New combo? OK
-) 02:53:738 (3) - New combo? OK
-) 03:23:081 (4) - Remove whistle. OK
-) 03:23:300 (5) - Add whistle. OK
-) 03:44:541 (1) - Uhhh, this note... is a bit trippy for a normal player! What about moving it elsewhere? OK
-) Nazi : 03:53:738 (4) - Second build-point 2 grids down? NO

Very nice Map and Storyboard.
Great Job Leo and ZLO.
+Star~
Colin Hou
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[General]:
  1. I have complain about the combo color, it's fine but when at the KIAI parts, my eyes ache and I feel uncomfortable.
[Hard]:
  1. 03:39:724 (3) - painful slow down. if you want to keep the shape, remove the sections for slowdown and add a reverse to it
star~ the spacing issue is fine for me
Leorda
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Colin Hou wrote:

[General]:
  1. I have complain about the combo color, it's fine but when at the KIAI parts, my eyes ache and I feel uncomfortable.
[Hard]:
  1. 03:39:724 (3) - painful slow down. if you want to keep the shape, remove the sections for slowdown and add a reverse to it
star~ the spacing issue is fine for me
all fixed! recheck please
_Angel
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:3
loudpose
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~star
arien666
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arien666
I think Colin would give bubble for this XD
Good luck :3
Leorda
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arien666 wrote:

I think Colin would give bubble for this XD
Good luck :3
I think she can't :(
arien666
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arien666
Okay...
4 days passed but no answer from Colin so...



;_;
Have a fresh pizza :3
Leorda
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arien666 wrote:

Okay...
4 days passed but no answer from Colin so...



;_;
Have a fresh pizza :3
Thanks for your pizza, it's delicious
Andrea
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Andrea
[Normal]

01:38:410 (1) ~ 02:34:468 (3) - Spacing on this part is bigger compared to the rest.
01:52:424 (4,1) - Absolutely wrong spacing here.
03:30:526 (1) ~ 03:56:366 (4) - Same as 01:38:410 ~ 02:34:468.

Yeah sorry but you need to respace the whole parts, as a Normal the spacing must be consistent.
Leorda
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osuplayer111 wrote:

[Normal]

01:38:410 (1) ~ 02:34:468 (3) - Spacing on this part is bigger compared to the rest.
01:52:424 (4,1) - Absolutely wrong spacing here.
03:30:526 (1) ~ 03:56:366 (4) - Same as 01:38:410 ~ 02:34:468.

Yeah sorry but you need to respace the whole parts, as a Normal the spacing must be consistent.
All fixed

BTW, spacing on Normal must be consistent because different spacing on Normal makes average player confusing, right? Also, Hard diff should be re-space the whole parts? If you do, I don't think so :?
Andrea
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Only easier difficulties must have consistent spacing for the reason you said, yeah :P

[Normal]

01:42:351 (2,3,4) - I think this stack would be confusing for new players.

Spacing is much better now :)
Leorda
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osuplayer111 wrote:

Only easier difficulties must have consistent spacing for the reason you said, yeah :P

[Normal]

01:42:351 (2,3,4) - I think this stack would be confusing for new players.

Spacing is much better now :)
done

you happy? :D
Andrea
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Much better :3

Re-Bubbled~
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Gens
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I feel the offset better at around 313~314, +5~6. Deleted storyboard temporarily to check and double checked my UO so I'm sure of that.

Oh yes, also, I should mention that the storyboard actually made me lag a bit, during the choruses. I noticed some of the images' dimensions exceed 640x480 (either vertically or horizontally), so any chance you could resize them at least a bit? peppy has always stated that no storyboard should cause lag on any computer capable to run osu!, so yeah. I'm also taking in account my computer so I'm probably just the minority, if it isn't just me.

And another little thing, I guess ticking the 'Display storyboard in front of combo fire' can't hurt.

Ugh, song got into my nerves somewhat. I prefer the original song.
Anyway, quick pop, call me back when you do stuff and stuff.
Fapfrit
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Star this map :3
Zekira
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Much contrary to what Gens thinks, I actually find the offset to be fine at around 299-301. That's around -9 to -7.

Actually it's a bit weird; on play, 299-301 works but when in the Editor 308 sounds just fine. Of course, play gets priority so I'll suggest you at least -7 it.
Leorda
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Well, thx Gens and Zekira..... Timing changes!
Gens
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Alace says it's actually +12ms from what it is right now... and I could understand timing changes based on play, but not when even in play sounds early.

Yep, sounds even earlier in both editor and play for me. Alace's offset matches more or less what I had, so yeah~
Leorda
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Gens wrote:

Alace says it's actually +12ms from what it is right now... and I could understand timing changes based on play, but not when even in play sounds early.

Yep, sounds even earlier in both editor and play for me. Alace's offset matches more or less what I had, so yeah~
well, I change the offset to 313. I hope it's right. Otherwise, I think we need Lybydose or Derekku to check this timing ._.
Gens
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Eh, small thing I just noticed... tags vary between both difficulties by one letter. Call me nazi but I think it's better if you fixed it now~ I'll be more than happy to repair the bubble after you fix it.

I'm guessing you won't resize anything, which I assume it's fine.
Leorda
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Gens wrote:

Eh, small thing I just noticed... tags vary between both difficulties by one letter. Call me nazi but I think it's better if you fixed it now~ I'll be more than happy to repair the bubble after you fix it.

I'm guessing you won't resize anything, which I assume it's fine.
it's done!
Gens
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Rebubs.
Ayeen_old
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1 month old bubble ~
Leorda
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Ayeen wrote:

1 month old bubble ~
yeah, perhaps my mom (Beuchi) can save this XD
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Star :D
Beuchi
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Hi~

This has been waiting for so long :o

Since you have only 2 diffs and I think the spread is a bit unbalanced, I suggest to decrease the HP Drain by 1 tick on both diffs, Normal would be 3 and Hard would be 7. I think that'll make things better :P

Call me back and I'll rank~ :)
(no kd plz)
Leorda
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Beuchi-chan wrote:

Hi~

This has been waiting for so long :o

Since you have only 2 diffs and I think the spread is a bit unbalanced, I suggest to decrease the HP Drain by 1 tick on both diffs, Normal would be 3 and Hard would be 7. I think that'll make things better :P

Call me back and I'll rank~ :)
(no kd plz)
FIXED! GET THIS MAP RANKED ALREADY!
Beuchi
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Aaaaaand here we go!!

RANKED!!
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congratz! XD
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Congra ~ Leorda :3
OzzyOzrock
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Nobody ever asked to make a taiko for this!? People eat these songs up! lol
Backfire
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OzzyOzrock wrote:

Nobody ever asked to make a taiko for this!? People eat these songs up! lol
I was going to ask, but it was bubbled at the time when I wanted to ;-;
Elly-chan
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Finally ~ Grats
Shiirn
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>2 difficulty collab
>hard that is practically an insane
>streamy and jumpy
>nonsense streams
>2 difficulty
>collab

all of my rage


grats i guess.
OzzyOzrock
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Backfire wrote:

OzzyOzrock wrote:

Nobody ever asked to make a taiko for this!? People eat these songs up! lol
I was going to ask, but it was bubbled at the time when I wanted to ;-;
Oh, then good lol.
Niva
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Grats Leo~
Leorda
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OzzyOzrock wrote:

Nobody ever asked to make a taiko for this!? People eat these songs up! lol
then, why you didn't ask me last month?

Shiirn wrote:

>2 difficulty collab
>hard that is practically an insane
>streamy and jumpy
>nonsense streams
>2 difficulty
>collab

all of my rage


grats i guess.
I'm so sorry, Shiirn :( also, thx

And thx, Elly-chan, Takos, Komeiji Yuki, Backfire, and Nivalis~
Sallad4ever
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Late congratulation~
Leorda
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Sallad4ever wrote:

Late congratulation~
thx
Bass
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Yeah I have to agree with Shiirn that [Hard] diff isn't hard, that's insane.... map shouldn't be like that or diff at least could be called "Lunatic" or "Insane"
Leorda
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Bass-chan wrote:

Yeah I have to agree with Shiirn that [Hard] diff isn't hard, that's insane.... map shouldn't be like that or diff at least could be called "Lunatic" or "Insane"
then what should I do? it's late D:
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people mod after rank xDD
dNextGen
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Shael wrote:

people mod after rank xDD
lol yes
Leorda
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Shael wrote:

people mod after rank xDD
it's already ranked XDDDDD

@dNextGen : wow, Myst's ava! lol
Bass
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Leorda wrote:

Bass-chan wrote:

Yeah I have to agree with Shiirn that [Hard] diff isn't hard, that's insane.... map shouldn't be like that or diff at least could be called "Lunatic" or "Insane"
then what should I do? it's late D:

Just be careful next time and take advice.
Leorda
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Bass-chan wrote:

Just be careful next time and take advice.
ok, thx~
loudpose
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Yeeeah. I was waiting for this map get ranked for a long time and now you've done this! Gratz. :)
Leorda
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Mitiai wrote:

Yeeeah. I was waiting for this map get ranked for a long time and now you've done this! Gratz. :)
thx~
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