The only reason I can come up as for why they would disable hitsounds (other than them being annoying), is because players could use IRL feedback (keyboard sounds, the feeling of tapping) to check their offset to the song. IIRC, this is why osu!mania doesn't have hitsounding requirements (although this could be considered "relatively recent"?)fayew wrote:
while in theory this would make some sense in ctb (like a Little bit) for example, sadly enough allowing silent hitsound maps will destroy the rhythm aspect of the game entirely, you're basically saying that we should allow mappers to get rid of the only feedback that players have. i don't see how this would benefit, after all as you've said - it's customizable and you are offered a choice to disable hitsounds and even change their volume to 0%
edit: also yeah ^ beginners will literally die thinking that they're not hitting anything at all
edit 2: may that one bn who said that 5% hs maps should be rankable come forward and explain why? also perchance it's a hitsounder's problem that they don't know how to hitsound your maps, or as it is being said nowadays - skill issue
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ i was going to say something like this but you put it perfectly lolfayew wrote:
sadly enough allowing silent hitsound maps will destroy the rhythm aspect of the game entirely, you're basically saying that we should allow mappers to get rid of the only feedback that players have.
As someone who's been playing a bunch of rhythm games for years, including games w/ prominent keysound feedback (e.g. Groove Coaster, NOSTALGIA) and games that don't have keysound support at all (e.g. jubeat or basically everything on my Android device because it's Android lol) alike...quila wrote:
there are also vaguer reasons, which are subjective and harder to word but probably more powerful. when i try to play my own maps with hitsounds it feels wrong, like there's a 2nd music track being played over the artist's intended one.
this seems to be ~the consensus view here, which is fine and about what i expected. (tho i didnt expect this to get so many responses in a day :p)Niva wrote:
As someone who's been playing a bunch of rhythm game for years, including games w/ prominent keysound feedback (e.g. Groove Coaster, NOSTALGIA) and games that don't have keysound support at all (e.g. jubeat or basically every game I have on my Android tablet because it's Android lol) alike...
I can confidently say that if you play a non-hitsounded map w/ hitsounds or vice versa and it feels "wrong", it means that there's an issue with the map design itself, not the hitsound mechanics.
In osu! specifically, mappers such as tieff and LKs as well as maps such as BASARA (most prominent on the [Luca] diff) have demonstrated that you can have your map to not follow the song 1:1 — be it through additive rhythms or whatever — and still makes up for a good sense when played either w/ the map's hitsounds, w/ the typical "pro player skin" ping-pong hitsounds, or even w/o hitsounds at all. And then there's also the recently qualified soiree as well, if you want a more "extreme" example of this.
Given the circumstances, unfortunately I don't see this suggestion as realistic to be implemented.
