So....
Vote: Wojjan
Vote: Wojjan
You ok with a possible jester win?LadySuburu wrote:
Vote: Wojjan
As terms to what I think, 90% chance mafia and 10% chance jester.adam2046 wrote:
I'm guessing we're probably not going to get a lot of information from Wojjan...You ok with a possible jester win?LadySuburu wrote:
Vote: Wojjan
Concluding that it has to be one of the two. Wanna back up this conclusion?LadySuburu wrote:
Conclusion: Wojjan is either Mafia or Jester.
I can't think of any other roles that would say "Screw it." and vote themselves, based on what's happened so far. (Remember, this is Wojjan. If it were some random player, I might believe him being town giving up for some strange reason.)adam2046 wrote:
Well, I'm normally all for voting someone who votes themselves, but I'd like to wait until we're at least half way into the day before we start piling votes onto people.
I'm not too keen on winning with a jester either.Concluding that it has to be one of the two. Wanna back up this conclusion?LadySuburu wrote:
Conclusion: Wojjan is either Mafia or Jester.
Mind explaining more on the first two?adam2046 wrote:
The people I'm currently most suspicious of are Suburu, Wojjan and animask (due to his "helpful" posts and his rolefishing and his insistance on being town and for implying I'm mafia for voting him(also I don't like his posts in general (and he stinks))).
Now I'm even more sure you're mafia, as opposed to a jester. Nice scumpainting attempt.Wojjan wrote:
Subu knows I'm a jester because he's mafia. You already stated to know that I'm anti-town. The only reason you ask adam for clarification is testing the waters to see how he thinks of you.
I think this quote is pretty dang fitting. He kinda sat around Day one, not really saying much (Except when he could get animask to post again, since most of animask's statements in every single game are suspicious.) He basically tried to turn everything animask said into saying that he's scum.adam2046 wrote:
Well it would be nice if animask could post somethingmore incriminatingin reply.
1. So, why did Wojjan vote himself?adam2046 wrote:
I find it unlikely that Wojjan would vote hermself as some crazy ploy on only the second day. All it would take is a cop to find out what Wojjan actually has.
Nothing's really stopping the host from creating new roles.
Gee, thanks for suddenly saying that everything I say from now on is useless. I thought we wereLadySuburu wrote:
So, might as well say what I've been thinking since I doubt I'll get any more useful comments out of adam.
You say that I'm scum painting you, but you're not even including the possibility of me being town in your posts now.LadySuburu wrote:
Wojjan is mafia, who knows he's screwed from what happened D1, as well as already losing a teammate.
adam is also mafia, who is trying to distance himself from Wojjan. He's attempting to paint me as scum without really saying anything
1. I don't know. I simply do not know, you do not know. Why don't we just ask?LadySuburu wrote:
1. So, why did Wojjan vote himself?
2. Role speculation here, but judging by the results of the lynch and the deaths at night, plus the fact that it's NoHItter running the game (Who was constantly complaining to me about the no-unvote mechanic from HNM1), I'm going to go ahead and say it's safe to assume that we're just using generic roles here.
Useless comments: You aren't explaining much of anything when you post, and you haven't answered all my questions yet either.adam2046 wrote:
I focus on animask because his playing style pisses me off.
Gee, thanks for suddenly saying that everything I say from now on is useless. I thought we weremafiabuddies, man.
You're making some pretty definite statements here Sububu.
You say that I'm scum painting you, but you're not even including the possibility of me being town in your posts now.
I would like you to point out what I've said that makes me so definitely mafia, so far the only the only thing you've got is my blatant dislike for animask's behavior.
1. I don't know. I simply do not know, you do not know. Why don't we just ask?
2. I think we're probably using standard roles too, but I'm not ruling out the possibility of there being a new role or a slight variation on a standard role.
I'm not fine with that.LadySuburu wrote:
I believe you're mafia because of what I said about animask, and that you've really not posting much content or explaining anything. I don't buy that you're focusing on him ONLY because you dislike his playing style. That might be part of the reason, but I doubt it's really all. If it is, then are you fine with just lynching people based on playstyles that each of us dislike? I don't see that as a good strategy.
Which ones did I miss?LadySuburu wrote:
Useless comments: You aren't explaining much of anything when you post, and you haven't answered all my questions yet either.
LadySuburu wrote:
Mind explaining more on the first two?adam2046 wrote:
The people I'm currently most suspicious of are Suburu, Wojjan and animask (due to his "helpful" posts and his rolefishing and his insistance on being town and for implying I'm mafia for voting him(also I don't like his posts in general (and he stinks))).
There is too much ambiguity that goes with that, for all we know we have an insane cop.adam2046 wrote:
I find it unlikely that Wojjan would vote hermself as some crazy ploy on only the second day. All it would take is a cop to find out what Wojjan actually has.
That was such a simple tactic that I doubt anyone would have believed (especially with how much she is screwing with us) so jumping to that conclusion seems a bit hasty in my eyes. As to giving up, so Wojjan is the type to give up because 1 mafia member is down?LadySuburu wrote:
Now I'm even more sure you're mafia, as opposed to a jester. Nice scumpainting attempt.
All of the above.Rantai wrote:
Outside that though I'm only really suspicious of adam. You're not really explaining (as LS pointed out too) yourself very well. Your suspicions of Wojjan are warranted (to me). animask though, are you suspicious of him being scum or do you simply think he's being more disruptive than helpful?
It's not like it's a strong suspicion. I included LS in my list of people I find most suspicious for lack of other people acting in a manner I find suspicious and because I find his behavior unusual. As soon as I stated that I was suspicious of LS he started acting as if I was trying to make him out to be mafia and suddenly I'm extremely likely to be mafia.Rantai wrote:
Your suspicion of LS seems very weak to me though. You are simply basing it off being slightly more aggressive, which I really don't think is a solid reason at all. I might as well say you're suspicious because you're being fairly aggressive too if I was going along the same thinking.
This whole statement just makes me feel uneasy. I've already pointed out the fact that I don't like that Suburu used such a definite style of speech in order to voice his opinions. He also mentioned two easy targets and himself as a third, even though he only mentioned himself and animask (and so possibly miscounted or included Wojjan, subconciously or not).LadySuburu wrote:
adam is also mafia, who is trying to distance himself from Wojjan. He's attempting to paint me as scum without really saying anything, and also riding on what was one of the easy lynch targets from D1, animask. Therefore, he has two easy targets and a third to back up on if he can get enough "Evidence" to show that I'm scum.
I have no idea what this means.Rantai wrote:
The fact you're looking for just about anyone to pin suspicion through your 'hinting' doesn't help either.
It felt like you were looking for people to point fingers at.adam2046 wrote:
Wojjan self voted, I find this suspicious enough by itself.
You because you're slightly more aggressive than I would expect.
No one else because they're not even participating.
HINT HINT GUYS
You're the first to mention an SK.rust45 wrote:
Alright, I'm surprised no one proposed that there is SK among us due to the night killing of two people(and one suicide). It could be a vig but I don't think the vig would act on night 1 especially since I don't think there was much to go on to constitute killing Two in the name of the town. I'm almost thinking Wojjan might be the SK trying to distract from the NKs by voting for himself, as that seems to be what all the discussion is about right now.
viewtopic.php?p=913505#p913505Wojjan wrote:
You're the first to mention an SK.
It was just a theory I had, I wasn't outright accusing.Wojjan wrote:
You're also the first to start pointing fingers at who the SK might be
I could ask the same.Wojjan wrote:
Compensating for something now are we?
Not a clue, everything went quietrust45 wrote:
Ok, where the hell is everyone?
whyyyadam2046 wrote:
Vote: DxS
I want him to say something.Lybydose wrote:
whyyyadam2046 wrote:
Vote: DxS
Fixed. Sorry about that.adam2046 wrote:
I'm voting me...
...Or is me voting I?
huhDeathxShinigami wrote:
Vote: Wojjan
Mafia can kill me at night. Didn't do anything on purpose...
DeathxShinigami wrote:
Mafia can kill me at night. Didn't do anything on purpose...
They are two different ways imo.Rantai wrote:
So first you want to be/don't care about being killed and now you don't want to be killed.
Make up your mind.
What the hell do you even mean by this? You're giving up but you're not giving up? Make up your damn mind and quit being so cryptic, it's confusing and confusion hurts town.animask wrote:
Roleclaim: Serial Killer
Yes, I give up on this game already...
(Not quitting just yet...)
If animask was a townie what reason would he have to claim SK? o_o Either he is SK or mafia or someone else we're after.LadySuburu wrote:
So... Yeah, just ignoring claims by animask.
DxS's claim and statement worry me, and other than that there's a whole lot of inactive here. Including me, since I've been not only busy but hosting and participating in a lot of other games. That, and everyone I normally talk to is daed.
You'd have to read through animask's posts on other games to get a general feel for what I'm talking about.pieguy1372 wrote:
If animask was a townie what reason would he have to claim SK? o_o Either he is SK or mafia or someone else we're after.LadySuburu wrote:
So... Yeah, just ignoring claims by animask.
DxS's claim and statement worry me, and other than that there's a whole lot of inactive here. Including me, since I've been not only busy but hosting and participating in a lot of other games. That, and everyone I normally talk to is daed.
I'm here still, somehow.Rantai wrote:
Well that's one more mafia to not worry about.
Who's still alive and kicking?
Yes, yes page 1 shows who's alive. But it might be good to see everyone post.
If there were 3 mafia in this game, that would mean we currently have 3 town vs 1 mafia vs 1 SK. Unless the mafia are getting two nightkills and using them on themselves.rust45 wrote:
I'm alive, and I'm also going to say that if this is like the last game Hitter hosted, where there were 3 mafia, we have 4 town vs. 1 mafia.
Oh whoops, my mistake, so that means we either have 3 town vs. two scum, or 4 town vs. 1 SK.LadySuburu wrote:
If there were 3 mafia in this game, that would mean we currently have 3 town vs 1 mafia vs 1 SK. Unless the mafia are getting two nightkills and using them on themselves.rust45 wrote:
I'm alive, and I'm also going to say that if this is like the last game Hitter hosted, where there were 3 mafia, we have 4 town vs. 1 mafia.
Situations: (As far as I can tell)
2 Mafia 1 SK - Just the SK would be left. We have two days to find the SK.
3 Mafia 1 SK - 1 Mafia and the SK would be left. We have one or two days, depending on lynch result and the nightkills.
After 1 person voted him, this is how he reacted. Very knee-jerk reaction.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Roleclaim: Vanilla Townie
Go find another target jerks.
I was thinking it came off as a 'get away from me' reaction.LadySuburu wrote:
After 1 person voted him, this is how he reacted. Very knee-jerk reaction.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Roleclaim: Vanilla Townie
Go find another target jerks.
Say you get killed tonight, how will that help us?DeathxShinigami wrote:
Actually you guys got it quite right.
If there is a SK or mafia member left I'm willing to be night bait in order for you guys to buy some time to find out who SK or Mafia is.
If I get daykilled that's pretty stupid imo.
I think his logic is, "I'm useless, if I die, it will buy time for the smarter guys to figure it out" which is pretty weak IMO.Rantai wrote:
Say you get killed tonight, how will that help us?
We'll be down a townie and no closer to figuring out who is who.