I'm not getting how miscounting or voting hermself would be a scumtell. I'll reread the thread after I get my sleep (I've already read another mafia thread with massive posts)
There is too much ambiguity that goes with that, for all we know we have an insane cop.adam2046 wrote:
I find it unlikely that Wojjan would vote hermself as some crazy ploy on only the second day. All it would take is a cop to find out what Wojjan actually has.
That was such a simple tactic that I doubt anyone would have believed (especially with how much she is screwing with us) so jumping to that conclusion seems a bit hasty in my eyes. As to giving up, so Wojjan is the type to give up because 1 mafia member is down?LadySuburu wrote:
Now I'm even more sure you're mafia, as opposed to a jester. Nice scumpainting attempt.
All of the above.Rantai wrote:
Outside that though I'm only really suspicious of adam. You're not really explaining (as LS pointed out too) yourself very well. Your suspicions of Wojjan are warranted (to me). animask though, are you suspicious of him being scum or do you simply think he's being more disruptive than helpful?
It's not like it's a strong suspicion. I included LS in my list of people I find most suspicious for lack of other people acting in a manner I find suspicious and because I find his behavior unusual. As soon as I stated that I was suspicious of LS he started acting as if I was trying to make him out to be mafia and suddenly I'm extremely likely to be mafia.Rantai wrote:
Your suspicion of LS seems very weak to me though. You are simply basing it off being slightly more aggressive, which I really don't think is a solid reason at all. I might as well say you're suspicious because you're being fairly aggressive too if I was going along the same thinking.
This whole statement just makes me feel uneasy. I've already pointed out the fact that I don't like that Suburu used such a definite style of speech in order to voice his opinions. He also mentioned two easy targets and himself as a third, even though he only mentioned himself and animask (and so possibly miscounted or included Wojjan, subconciously or not).LadySuburu wrote:
adam is also mafia, who is trying to distance himself from Wojjan. He's attempting to paint me as scum without really saying anything, and also riding on what was one of the easy lynch targets from D1, animask. Therefore, he has two easy targets and a third to back up on if he can get enough "Evidence" to show that I'm scum.
I have no idea what this means.Rantai wrote:
The fact you're looking for just about anyone to pin suspicion through your 'hinting' doesn't help either.
It felt like you were looking for people to point fingers at.adam2046 wrote:
Wojjan self voted, I find this suspicious enough by itself.
You because you're slightly more aggressive than I would expect.
No one else because they're not even participating.
HINT HINT GUYS
You're the first to mention an SK.rust45 wrote:
Alright, I'm surprised no one proposed that there is SK among us due to the night killing of two people(and one suicide). It could be a vig but I don't think the vig would act on night 1 especially since I don't think there was much to go on to constitute killing Two in the name of the town. I'm almost thinking Wojjan might be the SK trying to distract from the NKs by voting for himself, as that seems to be what all the discussion is about right now.
viewtopic.php?p=913505#p913505Wojjan wrote:
You're the first to mention an SK.
It was just a theory I had, I wasn't outright accusing.Wojjan wrote:
You're also the first to start pointing fingers at who the SK might be
I could ask the same.Wojjan wrote:
Compensating for something now are we?
Not a clue, everything went quietrust45 wrote:
Ok, where the hell is everyone?
whyyyadam2046 wrote:
Vote: DxS
I want him to say something.Lybydose wrote:
whyyyadam2046 wrote:
Vote: DxS
Fixed. Sorry about that.adam2046 wrote:
I'm voting me...
...Or is me voting I?
huhDeathxShinigami wrote:
Vote: Wojjan
Mafia can kill me at night. Didn't do anything on purpose...
DeathxShinigami wrote:
Mafia can kill me at night. Didn't do anything on purpose...
They are two different ways imo.Rantai wrote:
So first you want to be/don't care about being killed and now you don't want to be killed.
Make up your mind.
What the hell do you even mean by this? You're giving up but you're not giving up? Make up your damn mind and quit being so cryptic, it's confusing and confusion hurts town.animask wrote:
Roleclaim: Serial Killer
Yes, I give up on this game already...
(Not quitting just yet...)
If animask was a townie what reason would he have to claim SK? o_o Either he is SK or mafia or someone else we're after.LadySuburu wrote:
So... Yeah, just ignoring claims by animask.
DxS's claim and statement worry me, and other than that there's a whole lot of inactive here. Including me, since I've been not only busy but hosting and participating in a lot of other games. That, and everyone I normally talk to is daed.
You'd have to read through animask's posts on other games to get a general feel for what I'm talking about.pieguy1372 wrote:
If animask was a townie what reason would he have to claim SK? o_o Either he is SK or mafia or someone else we're after.LadySuburu wrote:
So... Yeah, just ignoring claims by animask.
DxS's claim and statement worry me, and other than that there's a whole lot of inactive here. Including me, since I've been not only busy but hosting and participating in a lot of other games. That, and everyone I normally talk to is daed.
I'm here still, somehow.Rantai wrote:
Well that's one more mafia to not worry about.
Who's still alive and kicking?
Yes, yes page 1 shows who's alive. But it might be good to see everyone post.
If there were 3 mafia in this game, that would mean we currently have 3 town vs 1 mafia vs 1 SK. Unless the mafia are getting two nightkills and using them on themselves.rust45 wrote:
I'm alive, and I'm also going to say that if this is like the last game Hitter hosted, where there were 3 mafia, we have 4 town vs. 1 mafia.
Oh whoops, my mistake, so that means we either have 3 town vs. two scum, or 4 town vs. 1 SK.LadySuburu wrote:
If there were 3 mafia in this game, that would mean we currently have 3 town vs 1 mafia vs 1 SK. Unless the mafia are getting two nightkills and using them on themselves.rust45 wrote:
I'm alive, and I'm also going to say that if this is like the last game Hitter hosted, where there were 3 mafia, we have 4 town vs. 1 mafia.
Situations: (As far as I can tell)
2 Mafia 1 SK - Just the SK would be left. We have two days to find the SK.
3 Mafia 1 SK - 1 Mafia and the SK would be left. We have one or two days, depending on lynch result and the nightkills.
After 1 person voted him, this is how he reacted. Very knee-jerk reaction.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Roleclaim: Vanilla Townie
Go find another target jerks.
I was thinking it came off as a 'get away from me' reaction.LadySuburu wrote:
After 1 person voted him, this is how he reacted. Very knee-jerk reaction.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Roleclaim: Vanilla Townie
Go find another target jerks.
Say you get killed tonight, how will that help us?DeathxShinigami wrote:
Actually you guys got it quite right.
If there is a SK or mafia member left I'm willing to be night bait in order for you guys to buy some time to find out who SK or Mafia is.
If I get daykilled that's pretty stupid imo.
I think his logic is, "I'm useless, if I die, it will buy time for the smarter guys to figure it out" which is pretty weak IMO.Rantai wrote:
Say you get killed tonight, how will that help us?
We'll be down a townie and no closer to figuring out who is who.
says the guy who self hammered as townDeathxShinigami wrote:
Just gonna say to you Rust
You suck at playing Mafia...
:X
That quote basically told me he was mafia, so I killed him off N3.pieguy wrote:
If animask was a townie what reason would he have to claim SK? o_o Either he is SK or mafia or someone else we're after.
This quote had a feeling of "There's another mafia still out there for sure." made me 90% sure Rantai was another mafia.rantai wrote:
Which brings me to the next point, say you don't get killed we're going to lose 2 more people and be at the same situation the next day (unless that SK kills off another mafia member and/or vice versa).
becauseTwo wrote:
and it's pretty funny that no one noticed you're the serial killer in that other game
LadySuburu wrote:
Based on animask's personality and track record of actions in previous games, I'm not going to believe any claims he makes.
That being said, I'm also not going to believe that any claims are false either.
So... Yeah, just ignoring claims by animask.
DxS's claim and statement worry me, and other than that there's a whole lot of inactive here. Including me, since I've been not only busy but hosting and participating in a lot of other games. That, and everyone I normally talk to is daed.
After Wojjan was lynched, looking at this post pretty much confirmed pieguy as 99% mafia. I tried to switch a likely NK target with pieguy so that the mafia would kill themselves. It was either Suburu + pieguy or adam + pieguy. I chose wrong I guess. NoHItter said I could no longer self-swap after D1 (probably because it's ridiculously broken), otherwise I would have done that.pieguy1372 wrote:
I don't necessarily think Wojjan is mafia. It seems like he's acting suspicious on purpose, like he wants to be lynched, so I bet he's a jester.
That said, animask seemed to be doing the same thing yesterday, and I highly doubt there's two jesters. Perhaps one is a jester and one is mafia. At this point it becomes WIFOM (I'm mafia and I'll make people think I'm a jester so they vote the other person). However, it could just be that animask didn't know what he was doing yesterday. Either way I'm going to go the other way and vote animask.
Although I would've said that regardless of my role, I do have to agree that it's odd nobody even tried to suspect me after I killed off everyone I talked to.Two wrote:
becauseLadySuburu wrote:
Based on animask's personality and track record of actions in previous games, I'm not going to believe any claims he makes.
That being said, I'm also not going to believe that any claims are false either.
So... Yeah, just ignoring claims by animask.
DxS's claim and statement worry me, and other than that there's a whole lot of inactive here. Including me, since I've been not only busy but hosting and participating in a lot of other games. That, and everyone I normally talk to is daed.
No one ever pays attention to to deaths because WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM and also WIFOM.LadySuburu wrote:
Although I would've said that regardless of my role, I do have to agree that it's odd nobody even tried to suspect me after I killed off everyone I talked to.
It's true, since that was going to be most of my defense if anyone tried to do so.Lybydose wrote:
No one ever pays attention to to deaths because WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM and also WIFOM.
Why would you Roleblock and kill the same person? Wouldn't it make more sense to Roleblock someone that wasn't gonna get killed?NoHItter wrote:
Night 4:
Rantai (Mafia RB) roleblocks rust45 (Townie)
Mafia kill - Rantai kills rust45 (Townie)
LadySuburu (SK) kills Rantai (Mafia RB)