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Well truthfully, I discovered that my role does have a special ability that I wasn't fully aware of until the middle of Day 2. Up until then, I was under the impression that I was just a mere vanilla.
LAL, etc. I'm asking you to trust that I fully wasn't aware up until recently. Give me until Day 3 and I'll be able to prove it.
That said, it is likely that there is no Vanilla Town amongst us, possibly giving some support to the 3 mafia theory (which I still feel is broken)
LAL, etc. I'm asking you to trust that I fully wasn't aware up until recently. Give me until Day 3 and I'll be able to prove it.
That said, it is likely that there is no Vanilla Town amongst us, possibly giving some support to the 3 mafia theory (which I still feel is broken)
Rolled wrote:
as I've been an absolute terrible town player
yes you have beenRolled wrote:
as I've been an absolute terrible town player
ok cool you realize that confirms my role list right? the only other possibility is: rust45, foulcoon, ph0x as mafiaRolled wrote:
Well truthfully, I discovered that my role does have a special ability
because of that, the safest lynch from my perspective is rust45, followed by ph0x
I'm still willing to vote for Lilac though since it is the most likely combination
Did you mean Lilac, not foul?Two wrote:
the only other possibility is: rust45, foulcoon, ph0x as mafia
lol... Ph0X u readin' brah?Two wrote:
because we both know that I already answered the question in the post you are asking the question about
since I realize that there has been communication problems in this game, though, I'll bite:
for the 3rd or 4th time, ph0x, Lilac, and rust45 are the mafia in this game
I don't know whether or not to believe Two and Rolled but its getting slightly more convincing as we go. Coupled with the fact that no matter how much I defended you Ph0X you still decide to throw suspicion my way, I have a lot of thinking to do. I am not mafia, I think everybody knows this by now.
If this:
and the way ph0x and rust have been acting aren't enough to convince you, then really there is nothing that will
SPOILER
Two wrote:
We already know for a fact that our role setup doesn't resemble anything from that topic. Yet another weak post. Here is my full theory:
Two:cop 1
foulcoon:sensor 2
quaraezha:mason 3
animask:mason \\ ph0x:mason (yeah right rofl) 4
chris: bus driver 5
rust45: mafia 6
Lilac: mafia 7
ph0x: mafia \\ animask:mafia (yeah right rofl) 8
but then we get to rolled, the 9th player, which we can then conclude two things (if the rest is right):
1. rolled isn't mason
2. rolled is either the sole vanilla town, or he is aux as well
since I find it unlikely that rolled is the sole vanilla town, and since this game is called "experimental mafia", I think the experiment was this: there is no vanilla town
so are you aux rolled? that would confirm my theory, but even if he isn't we can still assume that he is the sole vanilla and that 3 aux + 2 masons are overpowered enough for there to be 3 mafia
I'd like to thank rust45 for allowing me to flesh all of this out. Without him I wouldn't have realized there were 3 mafia, and without him I wouldn't have confirmed animask's innocence. Thanks bud.
Nope, rust confirmed that Rolled is town. Thanks for that too.
[and the related rust posts that I'm too lazy to include]Rolled wrote:
my role does have a special ability
and the way ph0x and rust have been acting aren't enough to convince you, then really there is nothing that will
THE DAY ENDS IN 14 HOURS
I hate you all for being so apathetic
I hate you all for being so apathetic
Vote: Two
Forgot about the reset.
Forgot about the reset.
and there is your irrefutable proof that ph0x is mafia: any logical person wouldn't have voted for rust or me (he says he thinks there are 2 mafia, remember)
For some of us its a game of chance at this point. I would much rather put my vote on you or rust just because one of you is mafia. 50-50 chance here.
no you wouldn't foulcoon because that's wrong
there are 4 town 3 mafia
if you vote for rust, it will be a tie breaker at best since I already voted (I assumed lilac was the only person we could collectively agree on)
explain to me why you are against lynching lilac for information when you already know that rust or I is town? you said yourself 2 mafia voted for quaraezha so you should have no problem with lilac
there are 4 town 3 mafia
if you vote for rust, it will be a tie breaker at best since I already voted (I assumed lilac was the only person we could collectively agree on)
explain to me why you are against lynching lilac for information when you already know that rust or I is town? you said yourself 2 mafia voted for quaraezha so you should have no problem with lilac
Lilac?
Mind posting?
Mind posting?
Oh sure.
It's kinda getting hectic when I just got back my internet. Reading back on it, Two is kinda getting desperate but I'm leaning to believe that Two's emotions are getting the better of him.
...Not sure... I'm leaning towards voting Two because of my earlier statements about him. Reading on it more, though.
It's kinda getting hectic when I just got back my internet. Reading back on it, Two is kinda getting desperate but I'm leaning to believe that Two's emotions are getting the better of him.
...Not sure... I'm leaning towards voting Two because of my earlier statements about him. Reading on it more, though.
How many mafia do you think there are?
^ Question to all players (except Two, because he doesn't like clearly stating answers).Ph0X wrote:
How many mafia do you think there are?
I think there are two mafia myself.
Question time, alright.
The possibility of 3 mafia is possible, but I'm thinking that it really isn't the case... I'm saying 90% that it's two...
The possibility of 3 mafia is possible, but I'm thinking that it really isn't the case... I'm saying 90% that it's two...
I still think there are only two mafia, as I said in my other post regarding this. Sure the role setup is different then the ones in the topic (a confirmed mason and possible sensor) but most of what Two said was role speculation and I don't think LS would change the ratio of town to scum for the game.
Obviously, most people will assume there are two mafia members. However, having three mafia members doesn't seem to out-there of a possibility.
And since there is a possibility of three members, lynching one of the two cop-claims can lose us the game. So unless you're 100% certain that there's only two mafia members, lynching rust/two isn't the smartest choice you can make.
And since there is a possibility of three members, lynching one of the two cop-claims can lose us the game. So unless you're 100% certain that there's only two mafia members, lynching rust/two isn't the smartest choice you can make.
Vote: Lilac
Wait a second, the day isn't ending that soon. Two said the deadline is gonna be 11 hours. Using my time, that would be the 10th of July at 11:16 AM, but the day started on the 6th of July at 11:16 AM. Wouldn't this make the deadline the 11th of July at 11:16 AM? Not the 10th? Or am I messing up my math?
Two messed up the deadline. Scumpaint opportunity!
yes the day is ending that soon
yes you can't do math
and yes you are bad at this game
yes you can't do math
and yes you are bad at this game
FalseTwo wrote:
yes the day is ending that soon
yes you can't do math
and yes you are bad at this game
False and...
Maybe
Anyway, I need to sleep, don't worry I'll vote as I plan on getting up before 11:16 AM on Monday(Not Sunday).
Vote: Two
Earlier stuff I talked about, HoS, Emotional wreck and I probably won't have the internet tomorrow.
Earlier stuff I talked about, HoS, Emotional wreck and I probably won't have the internet tomorrow.
You've lost the plot, haven't you?
Plot? It simply makes no sense for town to vote for me unless they think that there not only is 3 mafia, but that I am a member of the 3 mafia team. And who would my team mates be? That is where your fake argument would fall apart. So thanks for claiming, and be sure to thank rust45 for selling ph0x and you out.
You've done nothing but spit conjecture.
IF foulcoon was sensor.
IF you are the cop.
In fact, you're whole argument is only structured on those two statements, if either of those are false, your argument becomes moot.
IF foulcoon was sensor.
IF you are the cop.
In fact, you're whole argument is only structured on those two statements, if either of those are false, your argument becomes moot.
Oh look, someone who pays attention.
Also, to help resolve the day end confusion:
Day 2 start post
Here, it shows: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:16 pm
My last post shows: Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:04 am
With a bit of magic, we easily discern that 3 days, 14 hours, and 48 minutes have elapsed between the two posts.
That means we have just above 9 hours until the day ends.
I am going to sleep now, so unless I awaken late (probably), I'll be able to reconsider my vote. But until then, my vote sticks.
Vote: Two
Day 2 start post
Here, it shows: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:16 pm
My last post shows: Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:04 am
With a bit of magic, we easily discern that 3 days, 14 hours, and 48 minutes have elapsed between the two posts.
That means we have just above 9 hours until the day ends.
I am going to sleep now, so unless I awaken late (probably), I'll be able to reconsider my vote. But until then, my vote sticks.
Vote: Two
you already voted for me dawg
or are you hoping for some kind of psychological effect?
pretty sure foulcoon isn't dumb, and I think animask trusts rolled, foulcoon and I collectively more than you, so tough luck
or are you hoping for some kind of psychological effect?
pretty sure foulcoon isn't dumb, and I think animask trusts rolled, foulcoon and I collectively more than you, so tough luck
Still voting for Two tho...
Vote: Two
24 hour reset thing?
@Two, if you turn out cop then we'll believe you. (and possibly go through with your plan)
If mafia, then I'll have successfully predicted mafia for the first time ever.
Think of this as a sacrifice for now...
If something else happens, I'd vote for Ph0X next day. (That's just me though.)
Vote: Two
24 hour reset thing?
@Two, if you turn out cop then we'll believe you. (and possibly go through with your plan)
If mafia, then I'll have successfully predicted mafia for the first time ever.
Think of this as a sacrifice for now...
If something else happens, I'd vote for Ph0X next day. (That's just me though.)
I guess it doesn't really matter if I vote now considering that's 3 for two and rust will follow. Its 4 to lynch, I hope for your sake animask that Two is mafia. As for the night, I would like to hear who rust plans to investigate. If Two turns out to be mafia, you may just be the night kill. If two is town, gg well played mafia.
yep, we lose
good job animask, good job foulcoon
and no it wasn't well played by mafia, you'd know that if you read the thread at all
cutting myself
good job animask, good job foulcoon
and no it wasn't well played by mafia, you'd know that if you read the thread at all
cutting myself
I'm still sure of myself that the day isn't ending that soon. But I'm getting tired of this day and as someone else said. His arguments are based off of two things that are not confirmed to be true(him being cop, and foul being sensor). With that said, I'm gonna Vote: Two
don't good job me bro, my vote doesn't matter this time around.Two wrote:
yep, we lose
good job animask, good job foulcoon
and no it wasn't well played by mafia, you'd know that if you read the thread at all
cutting myself
Also, Two could be the mafia rolecop... (setups in the OP link)
To Ph0X's old question that I just saw after re-reading.
I think there are 2 mafia members. This makes sense if you
compare the previous HNM and the possible setups mentioned
earlier.
To Ph0X's old question that I just saw after re-reading.
I think there are 2 mafia members. This makes sense if you
compare the previous HNM and the possible setups mentioned
earlier.
Uh, day should have ended?
LS posted in another thread...
Mod: Should not the day have ended already?
LS posted in another thread...
Mod: Should not the day have ended already?
Ballot Box Manager: Once per game, can use his ablility to reset the votes in the box. This ability is able to be used up to 12 hours past the official deadline. (Yes, this means even if not present in the game, I am allowing 12 hours of discussion PAST the lynch deadline, or when someone is lynched via votes.)Well, what now?
What should we talk about now?
Is the mod even here? Where is Suburu?
Is the mod even here? Where is Suburu?
Suburu is always here.
Suburu is always watching.
Suburu is always watching.
Suburu is ceiling cat.Lilac wrote:
Suburu is always here.
Suburu is always watching.
I would think LS would inform us if the Manager used there ability.Lilac wrote:
Ballot Box Manager: Once per game, can use his ablility to reset the votes in the box. This ability is able to be used up to 12 hours past the official deadline. (Yes, this means even if not present in the game, I am allowing 12 hours of discussion PAST the lynch deadline, or when someone is lynched via votes.)Well, what now?
it didn't matter once rust voted (nice confidence in your math there)(and which hadn't happened when I posted that), unless your vote would have swayed animask which no one knowsfoulcoon wrote:
don't good job me bro, my vote doesn't matter this time around.
Uh...?
MOD: Why hasn't the day ended yet?
Vote: Two
Maybe I was right with my math and LS didn't notice there were four posts on Two before the reset.
Maybe I was right with my math and LS didn't notice there were four posts on Two before the reset.
Vote: rust
Vote: LadySuburu
Topic Starter
Sorry, stuff came up.
Anyway...
It seems the box where you put your votes went missing. All votes have been reset.
24 Hour extention from this point.
Anyway...
It seems the box where you put your votes went missing. All votes have been reset.
24 Hour extention from this point.
lol, Ballot Box Manager.
ballot box manager throws a wrench in my role list, so all we can be sure of at this point is that rust45 is mafia
vote rust45
vote rust45
something less than FoS on rust45
I'm still going to...
vote Two...?
I'm starting to think Two is the ballot box manager...
or the manager thinks that Two is innocent...
or ballot box manager is mafia...
I'm still going to...
vote Two...?
I'm starting to think Two is the ballot box manager...
or the manager thinks that Two is innocent...
or ballot box manager is mafia...
animask if we were in highschool I would vote you most likely to get strangled by me
just vote for rust45 ffs, you don't even understand this thread at all
just vote for rust45 ffs, you don't even understand this thread at all
Nah...
Vote: Two
HoS on Ph0X and Two
Vote: Two
HoS on Ph0X and Two
explain your terrifying thought processanimask wrote:
Nah...
Vote: Two
HoS on Ph0X and Two
Is it possible to confirm that there actually is a ballot box manager? Was that a role-claim Lilac?
it's already been confirmed that there is a ballot box manager, but yeah it makes no sense for them not to roleclaim now since it's once per game
@Two, Ph0X is still acting strange and has voted for rust45. I can obviously see the errors in his ways, but I get the feeling
that Ph0X is trying to ignore me. He just seems strange... I know that doesn't sound like a good argument, but I just have a feeling. You on the other hand are still avoiding to give me your facts as to why rust45 is mafia. You may think this is some tunnel-vision, but I want your lynch in order to confirm if you are cop or mafia. Even if rust is mafia, I am really curious as to what yourrole/alignment actually is. At first you said that you were lying about being cop (possibly to scoop out a mafia counter-claim who happened to be rust), but I get the feeling that rust is mafia because of his last few scum-tells.
tl;dr I feel like you're trying to distract me somehow...
that Ph0X is trying to ignore me. He just seems strange... I know that doesn't sound like a good argument, but I just have a feeling. You on the other hand are still avoiding to give me your facts as to why rust45 is mafia. You may think this is some tunnel-vision, but I want your lynch in order to confirm if you are cop or mafia. Even if rust is mafia, I am really curious as to what yourrole/alignment actually is. At first you said that you were lying about being cop (possibly to scoop out a mafia counter-claim who happened to be rust), but I get the feeling that rust is mafia because of his last few scum-tells.
tl;dr I feel like you're trying to distract me somehow...
animask you have got to be trolling me
you really just don't care about this game and have been trying to get under my skin the whole time, right?
cause pretty much nothing you said matches up with what has actually been said/happened in the thread (for example, I never said I lied about being cop)
you really just don't care about this game and have been trying to get under my skin the whole time, right?
cause pretty much nothing you said matches up with what has actually been said/happened in the thread (for example, I never said I lied about being cop)
was about to post the same thing...
Truth be told, no-one knows that your cop. Or that the role of cop even exists.
Obviously you being "roleblocked" sounds like a very "convenient" excuse of not turning up results.
Obviously you being "roleblocked" sounds like a very "convenient" excuse of not turning up results.
It's also convenient to say rolled is town. And you really think it's likely that I lied about being sane when I explained why I know for sure I am sane? And I take it you aren't the ballot box manager, then?
and by the way, I thought for sure we had already lost the game yesterday (when I had 4 votes on me)
anyone who had any doubts about me really being a cop & town could just read my posts from then to know that I am
anyone who had any doubts about me really being a cop & town could just read my posts from then to know that I am
vote: Lilac
because if you're not ballot box manager, you're probably mafia.
because if you're not ballot box manager, you're probably mafia.
I really voted on Two to see who would hop on the bandwagon.
That's why I am voting for rust.
Vote: rust
I'm sure the smarter readers can figure me out.
That's why I am voting for rust.
Vote: rust
I'm sure the smarter readers can figure me out.
I'm pretty sure if you've read previously, someone else has already claimed ballot box manager.
So I can't really do anything can I? Also Two, your argument REALLY sucks. You should REALLY try harder next time and don't let your emotions take over. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SENSOR, and you are NOT the cop.
Unvote, Vote: Lilac Now I can sleep better tonight.
So I can't really do anything can I? Also Two, your argument REALLY sucks. You should REALLY try harder next time and don't let your emotions take over. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SENSOR, and you are NOT the cop.
Unvote, Vote: Lilac Now I can sleep better tonight.
Nobody has role-claimed ballot box manager. Also read the mafia wiki if you think there is no such thing.
Not really sure why you would vote for yourself brah but I'll leave mine for good measure for now.
Not really sure why you would vote for yourself brah but I'll leave mine for good measure for now.
No-one has outright claimed it...
...But if you were to read the topic, someone fits the description very well.
...But if you were to read the topic, someone fits the description very well.
Topic Starter
Searching for a replacement for Two.
jokes?LadySuburu wrote:
Searching for a replacement for Two.
Topic Starter
I recieved a PM requesting replacement.foulcoon wrote:
jokes?LadySuburu wrote:
Searching for a replacement for Two.
No. He's serious.
I would be too. I really can't sleep right now.
I would be too. I really can't sleep right now.
so I made two quit mafia?
I don't blame him, you could tell he was so freaking pissed off in his posts.
Topic Starter
0_o replaces Two.
Maaaan I wish I hadn't have skipped over the walls of text while following this.
OK I honestly don't have the energy to go through this entire thread again tonight, so I won't be able to go into too much analysis. I actually did think rust was the real cop, mainly because of Two's claim that LS told him he was sane, which is something I didn't think LS would confirm (again, I've only been skimming).
So then I receive my PM, and oh look, I'm a cop.
The only scenario in my mind that LS would include 2 cops is if one was insane, and if this was the case LS never would have divulged that info. So I'm pretty sure I'm voting for rust, but I'll leave it til tomorrow when maybe I can get a readthrough in.
So then I receive my PM, and oh look, I'm a cop.
The only scenario in my mind that LS would include 2 cops is if one was insane, and if this was the case LS never would have divulged that info. So I'm pretty sure I'm voting for rust, but I'll leave it til tomorrow when maybe I can get a readthrough in.
Vote: Rust
Reasoning is obvious.
Reasoning is obvious.
Remember, you have just 19 hours.0_o wrote:
OK I honestly don't have the energy to go through this entire thread again tonight, so I won't be able to go into too much analysis. I actually did think rust was the real cop, mainly because of Two's claim that LS told him he was sane, which is something I didn't think LS would confirm (again, I've only been skimming).
So then I receive my PM, and oh look, I'm a cop.
The only scenario in my mind that LS would include 2 cops is if one was insane, and if this was the case LS never would have divulged that info. So I'm pretty sure I'm voting for rust, but I'll leave it til tomorrow when maybe I can get a readthrough in.
Yep. I'll have til ~7pm tomorrow so that should be enough time.Ph0X wrote:
Remember, you have just 19 hours.
Alright I was busier than I thought today and couldn't get all the way through, but I just realized that Two voted for rust after the votes were reset so I'm already stuck in that vote anyway.
Sooo yeah, I'll get back to you guys Day 3 (hopefully).
Sooo yeah, I'll get back to you guys Day 3 (hopefully).
LadySuburu wrote:
24 Hour extention from this point.
(29 hours ago)
Topic Starter
Hey, you're right.0_o wrote:
LadySuburu wrote:
24 Hour extention from this point.(29 hours ago)
One second.
Topic Starter
Rust dies.
He was Mafia Rolecop.
Lilac turns himself in to the police.
He was Mafia Roleblocker.
Host slaps self for using overpowered roles.
Host was stupid.
END GAME TOWN WIN
He was Mafia Rolecop.
Lilac turns himself in to the police.
He was Mafia Roleblocker.
Host slaps self for using overpowered roles.
Host was stupid.
END GAME TOWN WIN
Topic Starter
Host notes:
Bus Driver shouldn't target self, as awesome as it is.
I hate roleblockers.
Sensor is overpowered.
Masons are fine when not confirmed.
Box Manager can turn the tide of games.
Bus Driver shouldn't target self, as awesome as it is.
I hate roleblockers.
Sensor is overpowered.
Masons are fine when not confirmed.
Box Manager can turn the tide of games.
Wow. Kinda glad I didn't read it all now.
rolelist please
rolelist please
Topic Starter
0_o - Cop
animask - Townie Mason
foulcoon - Sensor
Ph0x - Box Manager
rust45 - Mafia Role Cop
Rolled - Friendly Neighbor
Lilac - Mafia Roleblocker
Quaraezha - Townie Mason
Chris - Bus Driver (Town)
Cop was sane.
Masons didn't know alignment.
Sensor is STILL op.
Box was PM only.
Friendly Neighbor is fine, though wasn't used.
Bus Driver still shouldn't target self.
animask - Townie Mason
foulcoon - Sensor
Ph0x - Box Manager
rust45 - Mafia Role Cop
Rolled - Friendly Neighbor
Lilac - Mafia Roleblocker
Quaraezha - Townie Mason
Chris - Bus Driver (Town)
Cop was sane.
Masons didn't know alignment.
Sensor is STILL op.
Box was PM only.
Friendly Neighbor is fine, though wasn't used.
Bus Driver still shouldn't target self.
Topic Starter
More notes:
I knew mafia had lost during the first use of sensor's ability. Expecially considering who they blocked and killed. I gave them a little more chance by allowing the bus driver to swap even though roleblocked, since chris sent the command early. I am keeping that rule for future situations, but not allowing drivers to swap selves.
Priority > Order in which I recieve.
If Priority = Priority, then order.
I knew mafia had lost during the first use of sensor's ability. Expecially considering who they blocked and killed. I gave them a little more chance by allowing the bus driver to swap even though roleblocked, since chris sent the command early. I am keeping that rule for future situations, but not allowing drivers to swap selves.
Priority > Order in which I recieve.
If Priority = Priority, then order.
so basically if you people just listened to me 10 pages ago we'd have won by then
I have to say, this was a horrible experience as mafia, especially since there were overpowered Town roles.
Just because you were right doesn't mean your reasoning was sound.Two wrote:
so basically if you people just listened to me 10 pages ago we'd have won by then
Rust's cop claim was pretty good imo. It was pretty much required, but still a good play.
Oh yeah, question, why did MB turn himself in? Did he just give up or something? Or did you decide another day would be pointless?
yeah like he planned for it to make people think there were 3 mafia
lol, I didn't say anything about that. Yeah, I gave up. Didn't think I'd win. Another day WOULD have been pointless.Two wrote:
yeah like he planned for it to make people think there were 3 mafia