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Shaun_CCGeek
if there are two people that ping me the worst so far, they are I AM VERY SMART and samx500. Also, if both scum, these 2 are probably not aligned.
Shaun_CCGeek

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

samX500 wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

YyottaCat wrote:

Please clear yourself, I AM VERY SMART.
I just said that GamlA is safe because too many people vote for them.

But of course I am defending my scum partner, of course.
I am not trying to eliminate you, I just want to make people talk so that this game goes anywhere. If you don't talk, you are not helping town find who the scums are.
"I am not trying to eliminate you" and you're doing the exact opposite by voting me. The moment a player vote someone, everyone will follow them for no reason because it's the only thing to do. I just said that GamlA was safe because too many votes in a short period of time and everyone is already on me.

Just f*ck this and kill me already 🖕
bro defeatism gets u nowhere. Your reaction is inherently bad in the sense that assuming you're town, you want the number of townies to decrease. It's losing for your faction if you're town, and if you're not town, you're clearly doing this for the show of it and to get people off you (by the logic scum shouldn't want to die). I'm looking for suspects right now, and not an elimination.

Also, no. Pressure forces reactions out of people, as it did with you. There is nothing scummy in STARTING A WAGON this early into D1. Not saying that people won't hop onto a wagon initiated by scum, but yes, hopping onto a wagon is scummier this early than later into the game. However, I will say that the two wagons so far have literally been easy pushes, and have some scum equity.

The assumption that GamIA is probably town would have been valid if they did not vote for themselves and if it went to E-1 or even actual E-2. BUT, I'm willing to give them the townpass right now because of the died wagon, but I'd also like to look at samx500 right now, who initiated a counterwagon.

I AM VERY INTERESTED in the I AM VERY SMART wagon that happened, it feels more opportunistic from my gut. I will probably try to look into that afterwards.


Also unrelated but why is this forum slightly clunky
Shaun_CCGeek
why is there a shocking lack of content in this game apart from literal LOLwagons. or is this how the sitemeta is?
Shaun_CCGeek

Joon Yorigami wrote:

should we make claims or
uhhhhhhhhhh why are you talking about claiming this early, this is quite a vanilla setup.
Shaun_CCGeek
I just realized both of the wagons so far have self-voters. WTF. Guys play the damn game.
Shaun_CCGeek
okay so roughly 3 days till deadline and we are just past RVS... uh... people should probably exist here.
ClevelandsMyBro

Shaun_CCGeek wrote:

why is there a shocking lack of content in this game apart from literal LOLwagons. or is this how the sitemeta is?

Shaun_CCGeek wrote:

I just realized both of the wagons so far have self-voters. WTF. Guys play the damn game.

Shaun_CCGeek wrote:

okay so roughly 3 days till deadline and we are just past RVS... uh... people should probably exist here.
my apologies
Kobold84
People mostly post whenever, it's not the main activity of this forum.
Shaun_CCGeek
yes but this game is not one where absolutely anyone can come in at anytime and do something and leave, the player pool is limited to some 13 players and no one outside that can contribute, plus it's not really a game as long as people are not talking.
Shaun_CCGeek

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Shaun_CCGeek wrote:

why is there a shocking lack of content in this game apart from literal LOLwagons. or is this how the sitemeta is?

Shaun_CCGeek wrote:

I just realized both of the wagons so far have self-voters. WTF. Guys play the damn game.

Shaun_CCGeek wrote:

okay so roughly 3 days till deadline and we are just past RVS... uh... people should probably exist here.
my apologies
I am unsure how a sarcastic apology applies to all three of the quoted posts, when the first question is not something that demands one, the second qn is not even directed at you, and the third one I can probably understand, but surely you can interact with some kind of content than filler to disprove me?
OVERDUSTFIVA
"How to be better at ADOFAI?"
"Play more~"

VOTE COUNT 1.4

  1. I AM VERY SMART: SamX500, YyottaCat, nominomu, I AM VERY SMART
  2. GamlA: Rezq, WELUVMYUKA
  3. ClevelandsMyBro: Kobold84
  4. Not voting: (6 players)
With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to execute.

Due to the replacement, the day deadline has been extended for 24 hours.
The soft day deadline is in 11 July, 4:00 UTC.

Julian_Kaiser is being replaced. PM me if you wish to replace in.
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Prodding WELUVMYUKA
samX500

WELUVMYUKA wrote:

I'll follow the votes
VOTE: GamlA
idk how worthwhile this is, but one thing I found odd while looking back at activity is that WELUVMYUKA said they were "following the vote", but only after 3 players had already begun to defend Gam1A
ClevelandsMyBro

Shaun_CCGeek wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Shaun_CCGeek wrote:

why is there a shocking lack of content in this game apart from literal LOLwagons. or is this how the sitemeta is?

Shaun_CCGeek wrote:

I just realized both of the wagons so far have self-voters. WTF. Guys play the damn game.

Shaun_CCGeek wrote:

okay so roughly 3 days till deadline and we are just past RVS... uh... people should probably exist here.
my apologies
I am unsure how a sarcastic apology applies to all three of the quoted posts, when the first question is not something that demands one, the second qn is not even directed at you, and the third one I can probably understand, but surely you can interact with some kind of content than filler to disprove me?
nah
ClevelandsMyBro

samX500 wrote:

WELUVMYUKA wrote:

I'll follow the votes
VOTE: GamlA
idk how worthwhile this is, but one thing I found odd while looking back at activity is that WELUVMYUKA said they were "following the vote", but only after 3 players had already begun to defend Gam1A
first day clusterfuck + first ever game of mafia for half of the players here.

honestly doubt these lots knows wtf is going on. the fact that these people jumping votes wagoning from GamlA to I AM VERY SMART should prove that.
Shaun_CCGeek
true
Shaun_CCGeek
what should we even do here kek
Shaun_CCGeek
like i think the only way this game progress is by having I AM VERY SMART interact with us, because that's our only promising lead rn
Aireunaeus

Shaun_CCGeek wrote:

like i think the only way this game progress is by having I AM VERY SMART interact with us, because that's our only promising lead rn
lmao, well we'll just have to wait and see who gets killed or smth
nominomu
for now im gonna UNVOTE
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Joon Yorigami has been prodded
Hoshimegu Mio

samX500 wrote:

WELUVMYUKA wrote:

I'll follow the votes
VOTE: GamlA
idk how worthwhile this is, but one thing I found odd while looking back at activity is that WELUVMYUKA said they were "following the vote", but only after 3 players had already begun to defend Gam1A
That’s what I said
Hoshimegu Mio
Thing is they’ve probably never played mafia nor werewolf so I don’t think we can necessarily draw conclusions.

That goes true for a lot of people though.
Hoshimegu Mio
Judging by I AM VERY SMART’s aggressive reaction I don’t think they’re scum, but maybe it can go to a policy elimination if they refuse to help.

Reviewing the posts, I am looking at nominomu. They’re 4th on the wagon both times and on the second wagon, they said “i think i agree” which is a very vague statement and unclear whether they agree or not. That would not be a valid reason for a vote. That’s just a speculation though.

UNVOTE
Joon Yorigami

YyottaCat wrote:

Judging by I AM VERY SMART’s aggressive reaction I don’t think they’re scum, but maybe it can go to a policy elimination if they refuse to help.

Reviewing the posts, I am looking at nominomu. They’re 4th on the wagon both times and on the second wagon, they said “i think i agree” which is a very vague statement and unclear whether they agree or not. That would not be a valid reason for a vote. That’s just a speculation though.

UNVOTE
maybe the aggressive reaction can just be their teammate throwing them under the bus without putting suspicion on anyone else; but I don't really know if there's any merit in my theory
Joon Yorigami
and I don't really like having the idea of keeping someone that doesn't want to play the game
Joon Yorigami
VOTE: I AM VERY SMART
Kobold84
Most of the assumptions can just be ignored for now, but it's something to remember for day 2.
samX500

samX500 wrote:

WELUVMYUKA wrote:

I'll follow the votes
VOTE: GamlA
idk how worthwhile this is, but one thing I found odd while looking back at activity is that WELUVMYUKA said they were "following the vote", but only after 3 players had already begun to defend Gam1A
WELVMYUKA can you answer that post? Why did you "follow the vote" after people began unvoting Gam1A?

VOTE: WELUVMYUKA
WELUVMYUKA
was busy. I'm sorry. I just want to play with a ticket. It's my first time. I'm not very good at it
WELUVMYUKA
I was just fooling around
WELUVMYUKA
VOTE: IDK
Topic Starter
heipizhu

WELUVMYUKA wrote:

VOTE: IDK
The vote is found to be invalid. I'll take this as an UNVOTE.
Topic Starter
heipizhu
I'll call this a day if no posts are posted in the following 9 hours
Topic Starter
heipizhu

VOTE COUNT 1.FINAL

  1. I AM VERY SMART: SamX500, nominomu, I AM VERY SMART, Join Yorigami
  2. GamlA: Rezq, WELUVMYUKA
  3. ClevelandsMyBro: Kobold84
  4. WELUVMYUKA: SamX500
  5. Not voting: (6 players)
With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to execute.
No one is executed on day 1.

Julian_Kaiser is being replaced. PM me if you wish to replace in.

Night 2 has started. The night deadline is in 12 July 14:00 UTC. Please submit the night action to me via PM if you have one.
Topic Starter
heipizhu
I AM VERY SMART, a Fire Planet decided to threw themselves outdide the chart (foreit). ... hmm, very interesting.
let's see where did they die...
oh, this, a sea of fake-double-taps, it seems they just want to die a little more easily


SamX500, a
Vanilla Tile, was hit by Ice Planets

let's see where did they die...
ah... a long-fast-straight road before a couple of zips, hoping the planets will be knocked out on the zips the next day...

Day2 has started. The soft day deadline is in 17 July, 3:00 UTC.

Julian_Kaiser is being replaced.
Topic Starter
heipizhu

VOTE COUNT 2.0

  1. Not voting: (11 players)
With 10 players alive plus one missing, it takes 6 to execute.

Day2 has started. The soft day deadline is in 17 July, 3:00 UTC.

Julian_Kaiser is being replaced.
Hoshimegu Mio
Lol
Hoshimegu Mio
I do not understand the Sam kill at all tbh.

Now that we know I AM VERY SMART is indeed scum, we need to work out who is their partner.
Hoshimegu Mio
Let’s take a closer look here.

Sam’s last action was to make an inquiry on WELUVMYUKA. This leaves some possibility for them to convince their teammate to help with taking a vengeful action.

I think the chance of GamlA being the other fire planet would basically be eliminated, as we can tell from SMART’s actions and the eventual forfeit.

Since Joon brought up the topic of bussing, there might be a possibility that the late ones on the wagon may be the other fire planet. Actually I think that would be quite a possibility since it may just be the final straw to cause the ragequit of SMART.

However, this is very much a game consisting of many new players so more advanced tactics may not be that much of a concern, though it would raise some suspicion on more experienced players (myself included).
Julian_Kaiser

heipizhu wrote:

Julian_Kaiser, Joon Yorigami and ClevelandMyBro still haven't confirmed their role yet, and [RUE]Bambinex is V/LA from 7 July to 21 July.
I'll start looking for a replacement for [RUE]Bambinex now, and I'll also look for replacement for Julian, Joon and Cleveland if the 3 1 players aren't able to confirm in 24 hours.

CleverlandMyBro and Joon Yorigami have confirmed
Don't replace me.
Julian_Kaiser
Apologies for not responding to the game since its initialisation, I missed out as I had forgotten about the existence of this game. Moreover, I was inactive on the forums throughout the past months and I just realised that I had signed up for participation when I checked my messages.

It seems I have missed out on the previous day.
GamlA

YyottaCat wrote:

Let’s take a closer look here.

Sam’s last action was to make an inquiry on WELUVMYUKA. This leaves some possibility for them to convince their teammate to help with taking a vengeful action.
I'm not completely invalidating this, but an alternative explanation for the Sam kill is to put pressure on WELUVMYUKA based on their inexperience in Mafia.

If this is true, this may raise suspicion towards the experienced players, but this is just another possible explanation and I may be overanalysing this
Kobold84
Hm, interesting, a lot happened during the night it seems. Considering the ice kill went through and fire kill did not, they clearly did not target the same person. Still not sure about all the rules, so can be wrong about some scenarios, but the following must've happened:
1) fire planet could not figure out who to target, which is quite possible due to IAVS dying;
2) the second fire planet member was/is inactive during the night and did nothing while IAVS is dead, which is also possible, especially because the night only ended AFTER the deadline;
3) fire planet actually did target someone and the town doctor saved them, seems quite possible, now we only need to consider WHO exactly was saved and WHY, but the doctor should probably not reveal themselves yet.
Rezq Gokou
Is it likely the doctor to save the same person? If yes, then the fire planet will change their target after that attempt
Hoshimegu Mio

Kobold84 wrote:

Hm, interesting, a lot happened during the night it seems. Considering the ice kill went through and fire kill did not, they clearly did not target the same person. Still not sure about all the rules, so can be wrong about some scenarios, but the following must've happened:
1) fire planet could not figure out who to target, which is quite possible due to IAVS dying;
2) the second fire planet member was/is inactive during the night and did nothing while IAVS is dead, which is also possible, especially because the night only ended AFTER the deadline;
3) fire planet actually did target someone and the town doctor saved them, seems quite possible, now we only need to consider WHO exactly was saved and WHY, but the doctor should probably not reveal themselves yet.
Scenario 2 would be the most likely one TBH.
Joon Yorigami

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

Apologies for not responding to the game since its initialisation, I missed out as I had forgotten about the existence of this game. Moreover, I was inactive on the forums throughout the past months and I just realised that I had signed up for participation when I checked my messages.

It seems I have missed out on the previous day.
make sure to bookmark with notifications ww
WELUVMYUKA
Idk say what VOTE: AIR(
Topic Starter
heipizhu
nominomu, Aireunaeus and Shaurn_CCGeek are prodded.
Aireunaeus

WELUVMYUKA wrote:

Idk say what VOTE: AIR(
Why Me?? i did nothing wrong 😭😭
WELUVMYUKA

Aireunaeus wrote:

WELUVMYUKA wrote:

Idk say what VOTE: AIR(
Why Me?? i did nothing wrong 😭😭
I didn't vote for you, I voted for air, I'm Sorry I didn't know your name was air
WELUVMYUKA

Aireunaeus wrote:

WELUVMYUKA wrote:

Idk say what VOTE: AIR(
Why Me?? i did nothing wrong 😭😭
I'm so sorry :(
Aireunaeus

WELUVMYUKA wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

WELUVMYUKA wrote:

Idk say what VOTE: AIR(
Why Me?? i did nothing wrong 😭😭
I'm so sorry :(
Nahh all good, i get it 😄
nominomu
hi im alive dont replace me
GamlA
hi I'm alive too
Joon Yorigami
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
Kobold84
To keep things fresh, let's discuss the ice planet actions, the kill of samX was far from random, as a player his remarks were concise and on-point, not to mention his experience with mafia in general, so to take him out was not just logical, but correct. Because of that I assume at least one of the ice players is somewhat experienced, definitely not their first rodeo. But that doesn't tell much, does it?

Does anyone have clues related to that night kill?
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Prodding Yyottacat and Julian_Kaiser
Hoshimegu Mio
I forgot this game lol.

There hasn't been much going on so I don't really know what to say.
Topic Starter
heipizhu
I'll call this a day if no posts are posted in the following 7 hours
Joon Yorigami
we need activity
Joon Yorigami

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
I still think this can be true so
Vote: Julian_Kaiser
ClevelandsMyBro

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
I still think this can be true so
Vote: Julian_Kaiser
why do you think inactivity = scum? in fact i think his lack of activity may suggest he's just a townie. if he WAS a scum then he wouldn't act so nonchalantly to being absolutely inactive throughout day 1. plus his last post was from 4 days ago.

but sure. lets say he IS scum. now what i want to know is why do you think he is fire planet.
ClevelandsMyBro
also fucking hell lads i was silenced for 7 days and there was only 33 posts in between. on god yall cant do anything smh my head
Joon Yorigami

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
I still think this can be true so
Vote: Julian_Kaiser
why do you think inactivity = scum? in fact i think his lack of activity may suggest he's just a townie. if he WAS a scum then he wouldn't act so nonchalantly to being absolutely inactive throughout day 1. plus his last post was from 4 days ago.

but sure. lets say he IS scum. now what i want to know is why do you think he is fire planet.
no action for fire planet last night (or at least I think that's the case)
Joon Yorigami
and I think the inactivity was not a choice but probably just being absent-minded
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Prodded Sharun_CCGeek again.
GamlA

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
Are you absolutely sure that it couldn't be anyone else?
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Prodding WELUVMYUKA, Aireunaeus, nominomu.
I should probably stop from mass prodding I guess lol
nominomu
hi
ClevelandsMyBro

GamlA wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
Are you absolutely sure that it couldn't be anyone else?
its honestly the best lead we have right now. unless someone else is silenced for the entire duration of the night then its very possible julian is fire planet.

@Julian_Kaiser clear yourself
Aireunaeus
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activity
Topic Starter
heipizhu

VOTE COUNT 2.FINAL

  1. Julian_Kaiser: Joon Yorigami
  2. Not voting: (10 players)
With 10 players alive plus one missing, it takes 6 to execute.
No one is executed.

Night 2 begins. The night deadline is on 19 July 3:00 UTC. Please pm me your night actions if you have one.

Sharun_CCGeek is being replaced.
Player returned.

Joon Yorigami

Aireunaeus wrote:

Noone to suspect right now, lack of activity
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you think

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
especially this
OVERDUSTFIVA

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Noone to suspect right now, lack of activity
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you think

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
especially this
hey, it's already night, you can't speak in public
Joon Yorigami
I cannot read sry
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Sharun_CCGeek is hit out by Fire Planet, and they're Golden Planet. Ah...no one can protect tiles anymore.
let's see where did they die...
A snowflake...that's the beauty of death.


YyottaCat is killed by
Ice Planets, and they're a Vanilla Tile. This is what I said.
let's see where did they die...
Holy shit, a big circle, no wonder why they die so accidently.

Day3 has started. The soft day deadline is in 24 July, 12:00 UTC.
Topic Starter
heipizhu

VOTE COUNT 3.0

  1. Not voting: (9 players)
With 9 players alive plus one missing, it takes 5 to execute.

The soft day deadline is in 23 July, 12:00 UTC.
Aireunaeus

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Noone to suspect right now, lack of activity
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you think

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
especially this
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds him

so my suspects are pretty much noone
ClevelandsMyBro

Aireunaeus wrote:

so my suspects are pretty much noone
so that leaves just you then.
Julian_Kaiser

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

GamlA wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
Are you absolutely sure that it couldn't be anyone else?
its honestly the best lead we have right now. unless someone else is silenced for the entire duration of the night then its very possible julian is fire planet.

@Julian_Kaiser clear yourself
I haven't been online much because of too much busy things going around, and school and other activities.

Seeing the fire planet's failure to execute a kill on the first night, either:
•Golden planet protected the victim.
or
•Fire planet targetted someone from ice planet and bullet protection was effective.
else or,
•Fire planet did not target anyone.
I'm considering that one of the first two is more likely to happen.

Also,

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

YyottaCat wrote:

Please clear yourself, I AM VERY SMART.
I just said that GamlA is safe because too many people vote for them.

But of course I am defending my scum partner, of course.
There's a chance this isn't satire.
Rezq Gokou
Damn, all the vanilla tiles all killed by the ice planets
Kobold84
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
Kobold84

Aireunaeus wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Noone to suspect right now, lack of activity
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you think

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
especially this
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds him

so my suspects are pretty much noone
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.
Rezq Gokou
Yeah, maybe even the silent ones are the fire or ice
Aireunaeus

Kobold84 wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Noone to suspect right now, lack of activity
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you think

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
especially this
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds him

so my suspects are pretty much noone
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.
I said "definitely not a scum" because gamla felt pessimistic at the end and decided to vote himself cuz he thought he would be voted out. That's why I doubt that he's not a scum at all. (But ngl his PFP really fits as a fire planet lol)
GamlA

Kobold84 wrote:

Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
So this implies that the Ice Planets are able to recognise potential threats. Sam and Yyotta were very vocal in the previous days, so I understand.

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
Aireunaeus

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
What do you mean with "we"? That’s kinda suspicious what you’re using. At least for me
Rezq Gokou

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
So this implies that the Ice Planets are able to recognise potential threats. Sam and Yyotta were very vocal in the previous days, so I understand.
I see, I never really played mafia type games online before. So I have no idea
Kobold84

Aireunaeus wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Noone to suspect right now, lack of activity
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you think

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
especially this
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds him

so my suspects are pretty much noone
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.
I said "definitely not a scum" because gamla felt pessimistic at the end and decided to vote himself cuz he thought he would be voted out. That's why I doubt that he's not a scum at all. (But ngl his PFP really fits as a fire planet lol)
Seeing as IAVS was even more pessimistic, this really doesn't explain much. Personally, I don't suspect him that much, but not for this reason.
Kobold84

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".

VOTE: nominomu
nominomu

Kobold84 wrote:

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".

VOTE: nominomu
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)
Kobold84

nominomu wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".

VOTE: nominomu
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.

VOTE: Aireunaeus
Rezq Gokou
I have no idea who to vote, so I will just follow other

VOTE: Aireunaeus
Joon Yorigami
wagon time

VOTE: Aireunaeus
Topic Starter
heipizhu
"Hey, since there are double-taps, are there any triple-taps?"
"Of course. But their true names is fake-double-tap (except in RJ-X) and fake-triple-tap."
"Wait, what? Oh, noooooooooooo"


VOTE COUNT 3.1

  1. Aireunaeus(E-2): Kobold84, REZQ, Joon Yorigami
  2. Not voting: (6 players)
With 9 players alive plus one missing, it takes 5 to execute.

The soft day deadline is in 23 July, 12:00 UTC.
Aireunaeus

Kobold84 wrote:

nominomu wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".

VOTE: nominomu
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.

VOTE: Aireunaeus
Well the reason why i didn’t want to vote anyone out (even the people whom are inactive), is because there is a lack of evidence that they are a scum. I can’t just vote a random guy and they’ll end up as a vanilla type. If someone makes a suspicious move then i actually would vote them of course. I do confirm that just voting out noone is kinda a dumb move but I’ll be more active into finding suspicious and vote anyone. It’s my 3rd time playing an online mafia game.
nominomu
i'll stay out of voting for now until there's a stronger consensus, but any good mafia wouldnt just go "hey i'm the mafia!" in the chat or say anything that basically confirms they're mafia, its more about who's more suspicious than others, if no one gets voted out then the mafias won't get voted out, and the only way to stop the mafias is to vote them out
Kobold84

Aireunaeus wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

nominomu wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".

VOTE: nominomu
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.

VOTE: Aireunaeus
Well the reason why i didn’t want to vote anyone out (even the people whom are inactive), is because there is a lack of evidence that they are a scum. I can’t just vote a random guy and they’ll end up as a vanilla type. If someone makes a suspicious move then i actually would vote them of course. I do confirm that just voting out noone is kinda a dumb move but I’ll be more active into finding suspicious and vote anyone. It’s my 3rd time playing an online mafia game.
Just like nominomu pointed out, suspicious moves don't come out of nowhere, you have to use your words and your vote if you want to force people into unfavorable positions. Yes, certainly we don't want to vote out vanillas, but your vote alone doesn't get the target executed on the spot. See how much we got just from this short exchange? And no one died (yet). It's okay to be wrong, just find whoever's looking the most dubious to you.

But well, whatever, passive playstyle is fine too, but if the majority of players is indecisive like that, then the game is pretty much decided.
WELUVMYUKA
I have no idea who to vote, so I will just follow other

VOTE: Aireunaeus
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