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ClevelandsMyBro

NotRaffi wrote:

but why cleveland anyways? like what did he do, Also Yall know I'm bad at scum hunting smh
at D-2 we all decided to vote igor out and let another PR perform their action on me. now we are here and that same PR has not responded yet and everyone else had grown suspicous of me.

+ all the other "scummy" things i did during the entirety of this game.
KeikiEnjoyer

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

NotRaffi wrote:

but why cleveland anyways? like what did he do, Also Yall know I'm bad at scum hunting smh
at D-2 we all decided to vote igor out and let another PR perform their action on me. now we are here and that same PR has not responded yet and everyone else had grown suspicous of me.

+ all the other "scummy" things i did during the entirety of this game.
well then it's the pr's fault tf
ClevelandsMyBro

NotRaffi wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

NotRaffi wrote:

but why cleveland anyways? like what did he do, Also Yall know I'm bad at scum hunting smh
at D-2 we all decided to vote igor out and let another PR perform their action on me. now we are here and that same PR has not responded yet and everyone else had grown suspicous of me.

+ all the other "scummy" things i did during the entirety of this game.
well then it's the pr's fault tf
no not really. i suggest you read this first

community/forums/topics/1480949?n=267

2 out of the 4 possibilites has nothing to do with the PR themselves (3/4 if you count not revealing themselves).
abraker
We need to get voting since time is running out
ClevelandsMyBro
gonna vote rn incase i dont wake up tomorrow morning

Vote: NotRaffi
Julian_Kaiser
Vote: ClevelandsMyBro

I got the feeling NotRaffi isn't really scum because he would have given some more insight to whatever pertains to the game.
And maybe he would have taken things more serious.

If NotRaffi isn't scum, then my suspicion holds on Cleve.
Julian_Kaiser

NotRaffi wrote:

but why cleveland anyways? like what did he do, Also Yall know I'm bad at scum hunting smh
Why not?

Anyway jokes aside,

1. Cleve was of the members who considered to vote off ShinRun (along with igor).

2. Cleve's idea of "Ha, Vote me! you'll see I'm innocent, then vote Igor" seemed like a last minute decision to convince town that he's 'innocent'.

3. Igor didn't defend himself.
KeikiEnjoyer

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

gonna vote rn incase i dont wake up tomorrow morning

Vote: NotRaffi
damn ight then

Vote: ClevelandsMyBro
samX500

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

Vote: ClevelandsMyBro

I got the feeling NotRaffi isn't really scum because he would have given some more insight to whatever pertains to the game.
And maybe he would have taken things more serious.

If NotRaffi isn't scum, then my suspicion holds on Cleve.
Can you elaborate on why you think NotRaffi isn't scum?
abraker

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

Vote: ClevelandsMyBro

I got the feeling NotRaffi isn't really scum because he would have given some more insight to whatever pertains to the game.
And maybe he would have taken things more serious.

If NotRaffi isn't scum, then my suspicion holds on Cleve.
Can you also elaborate what you think happened with the investigating?

We are running under the assumption that Cleveland was investigated and found to be town, hence why pr is not saying anything.
Julian_Kaiser

samX500 wrote:

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

Vote: ClevelandsMyBro

I got the feeling NotRaffi isn't really scum because he would have given some more insight to whatever pertains to the game.
And maybe he would have taken things more serious.

If NotRaffi isn't scum, then my suspicion holds on Cleve.
Can you elaborate on why you think NotRaffi isn't scum?
He seems unsure of his opinions, isn't really determined in voting either and my hunch is telling me that he's more likely town, and Cleve has done more suspicious activity.
well I could be wrong otherwise.

abraker wrote:

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

Vote: ClevelandsMyBro

I got the feeling NotRaffi isn't really scum because he would have given some more insight to whatever pertains to the game.
And maybe he would have taken things more serious.

If NotRaffi isn't scum, then my suspicion holds on Cleve.
Can you also elaborate what you think happened with the investigating?

We are running under the assumption that Cleveland was investigated and found to be town, hence why pr is not saying anything.
I'm guessing either PR got blocked or PR is Manish and can't say anything about his investigation.

That, or PR didn't perform the investigation on Cleve/wasn't aware of the instructions.
Topic Starter
McEndu

Final result

NotRaffi: (3) abraker, samX500, ClevelandsMyBro
ClevelandsMyBro: (2) Julian_Kaiser, NotRaffi
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (1 player)

NotRaffi, a Vanilla Townie, has been eliminated. Night 3 begins.
Topic Starter
McEndu
Reason for NotRaffi's elimination:

2.8) If deadline is reached without anyone ever hitting the lynch threshold, then a lynch will only occur if someone is at one vote below the lynch threshold. If multiple, then the first one to hit it will be lynched. Anything else below that will lead to No Lynch.
Topic Starter
McEndu
Day 4 starts. samX500, a Town Cop, has been killed.

Deadline for day is 2022-01-16 08:00 UTC.
abraker
Vote: Julian_Kaiser

Sam being cop clears Cleveland
Manish is innactive

You dun goofed
Manishh

abraker wrote:

Vote: Julian_Kaiser

Sam being cop clears Cleveland
Manish is innactive

You dun goofed
wdym i am inactive
sorry
Topic Starter
McEndu

The Indian Guy wrote:

abraker wrote:

Vote: Julian_Kaiser

Sam being cop clears Cleveland
Manish is innactive

You dun goofed
wdym i am inactive
sorry
You are no longer in this game. You may not speak.
Topic Starter
McEndu
Threshold for elimination is 2 votes for this day.
abraker
*twiddles thumbs*

Cleveland, you are literally deciding who wins and loses here
ClevelandsMyBro
hmmm early voting probably means you're really sure about it. ive been eyeing this guy as well but i wanna hear his response first.

@Julian_Kaiser tell me why you are not scum
Julian_Kaiser
I hope all of you are well aware of the fact that today is the last day in which the winners of this game would finally be decided.

I can get why abraker has his reasons against me by considering voting me off foremost, I can't really say anything much about this except that I see why.
Since I and NotRaffi were suspected to be scum when we did not vote off Igor.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

hmmm early voting probably means you're really sure about it. ive been eyeing this guy as well but i wanna hear his response first.

@Julian_Kaiser tell me why you are not scum
This is a question which I'm not really sure how to answer apart from the fact that Manish could potentially be scum,
He is permitted to perform night actions.
The only restrictions that has been imposed on him are to vote and posting replies. Other than the above, he may be permitted to perform the actions which is granted by his role.
abraker
@DCT You said Manish is out, does that also make him not allowed to send night action?
Topic Starter
McEndu

abraker wrote:

@DCT You said Manish is out, does that also make him not allowed to send night action?
Yes
Topic Starter
McEndu
If Manish's faction wins the game, Manish will be modkilled unless a replacement is found.
Julian_Kaiser
Well, this means I'm out as there's no other suspects you guys have.
abraker

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

Well, this means I'm out as there's no other suspects you guys have.
pretty much

tell me, what are your thoughts on this



igorsprite wrote:

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

Unvote

I'm not sure about casting the hammer yet, let him have his last words or something.
just cast the hammer, i'm not paying much attention to the game, so i think that i'm a better option to vote than clevelands
Julian_Kaiser

abraker wrote:

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

Well, this means I'm out as there's no other suspects you guys have.
pretty much

tell me, what are your thoughts on this



igorsprite wrote:

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

Unvote

I'm not sure about casting the hammer yet, let him have his last words or something.
just cast the hammer, i'm not paying much attention to the game, so i think that i'm a better option to vote than clevelands
I conceived it as an attempt to convince us to vote him off(Igor) as a way to draw attention away from cleve.

Well, now that cleve has been cleared by Sam, that seems kind of unlikely.
We know the remaining mafia is a roleblock, that could be something.
ClevelandsMyBro

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

We know the remaining mafia is a roleblock, that could be something.
roleblock samx? very unlikely since none of us roleclaim the entire game.
Julian_Kaiser

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

We know the remaining mafia is a roleblock, that could be something.
roleblock samx? very unlikely since none of us roleclaim the entire game.
How many actions can the mafia perform?
-Roleblock and kill.

1 process they could have went with was:
1. Kill x whom they suspect PR,
2. Roleblock y whom they also suspect PR.

Next night:
1. Kill y whom they didn't remove yet.
2. Roleblock z whom they also think is PR.
In this case, y is sam
abraker

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

We know the remaining mafia is a roleblock, that could be something.
roleblock samx? very unlikely since none of us roleclaim the entire game.
How many actions can the mafia perform?
-Roleblock and kill.

1 process they could have went with was:
1. Kill x whom they suspect PR,
2. Roleblock y whom they also suspect PR.

Next night:
1. Kill y whom they didn't remove yet.
2. Roleblock z whom they also think is PR.
In this case, y is sam
You realize that sam would have known they have been roleblocked if that's the case, right? Roleblocked results in no result. If sam would have gotten that, he would be so sure Cleveland is town.
abraker
I don't know how to grammar. Let's try that again.

Roleblocked results in no result. If sam would have gotten that, how would he be so sure Cleveland is town?
ClevelandsMyBro
seems like not much progress going on. so i suggest;
1. @abraker i can hammer julian if you want me to.
2. @Julian_Kaiser since im cleared, i suggest you to vote now to keep the ball rolling.
abraker
@Cleveland unless you have doubts I suggest you go ahead with that hammer
Julian_Kaiser
I've lost interest towards this game.
I don't care about the outcome anymore, might as well end it.
Julian_Kaiser
Vote: Julian_Kaiser
Topic Starter
McEndu

Final result

Julian_Kaiser: (E) abraker, Julian_Kaiser
No elimination: (0)

Not voting: (2 players)
Topic Starter
McEndu
Julian_Kaiser, a Mafia Roleblocker, has been eliminated.
The Indian Guy, a Vanilla Townie, has been modkilled for not being replaced.

Town won the game!
Topic Starter
McEndu
To be honest, I've also lost interest, hence the lack of imagery towards the end
ClevelandsMyBro
man i missed my hammer :(((((

makes the win so bitter
samX500
well GG town. One of the first town win.

On insight, I should have revealed myself as the role cop on day 3. I was hoping to catch the second scum during night 3 but it was way too unlikely that it was actually gonna work. I would have had to dodge two bullet (scum kill and scum roleblock). So I tried to give subtle hints that cleveland was town.

Also, really good job on Julian, I never expected you to be scum. I was actually sure you were town and that the game would end upon NotRaffi's elimination. Scum would have had a really good chance to win if I didn't catch Igor on night 1 and we eliminated Cleveland instead.
ShinRun
Town won finally

The curse is broken
abraker
man why end the game like that. i was kinda debating on whether I will need to make an effort convincing Cleveland that im town. This was too easy otherwise.

samX500 wrote:

So I tried to give subtle hints that cleveland was town.
Your hints were not subtle nor obvious, but with 1 scum remaining they were in the "gut feeling" range.



abraker wrote:

samX500 wrote:

I am betting on the fact that our cop/tracker investigated them last night, if that is true, the fact that they haven't come out against Cleveland despite there being only one scum left shows that Cleveland is town.
Would you say it's a calculated kind of bet or gambling kind of bet?
This is the question I asked to confirm my suspicion whether you are cop. I was betting on a "calculated bet" answer, but had to go on gut feeling when I did not get it. Igor surrending himself to let Cleveland live is prob the biggest thing the contributed towards that gut feeling.
ClevelandsMyBro
i am still in shock that i got passed D-2 let alone winning the whole fucking thing
ShinRun
My day one play was totally predicted and it led the town to win
Sakura
Wait, town won? wow
abraker

Sakura wrote:

Wait, town won? wow
people were surprisingly more competent this game, but also one of the scum practically committed die in a way that really, really helped town.

igorsprite wrote:

just cast the hammer, i'm not paying much attention to the game, so i think that i'm a better option to vote than clevelands
ghoulybits
GG town knew we could do it
Manishh
I knew Julian_Kaiser was the imposter
Manishh
can we do this again
samX500
to play mafia we need someone to organize an event.

Right now YyottaCat has a game looking for player, but they havenot updated it in a month.
Manishh
Host another one
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