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[Proposal] About Classical Music Metadata

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Nymphe
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Joined July 2017
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Nymphe
Currently, it is really confusing how it's used. Let's compare these two beatmaps got ranked or loved recently. First map got loved one day ago used performer (Sumina Studer) in the title, which is wrong and should be in the artist box. Second map got ranked 1 year ago, and it is very close how it should be used, but there is one wrong thing is composer's last name (Ravel) should be in the title's beginning. You can see the official sources I linked below the proposal.

Proposal:

On classical music, there is composer and the person who actually play the song (performer). From official distributor, the performer should be in the artist box and the composer's "last name" should be in the song title. (Composer's "first name" should be in the tags). If they perform their own pieces, there is no reason to add it on title.)

See: (Deutsche Grammophon) Youtube Link and Official Link and (Sonyclassical) Youtube Link and Official Site
(About Deutsche Grammophon and Sonyclassical they are the most trustable classic music distributors. You can check about me on Youtube link.)

Examples: (You can click the photos to go official website.)



***** We know there was a discussion 3 months ago by kadoen but apparently he didn't use official sources on his thread. You can see his thread right here. *****

Thanks Orkay for helping me for these official sites.
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Quenlla
Beatmap Nominator
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Joined July 2014
Quenlla

Nymphe wrote:

First map got loved one day ago used performer (Sumina Studer) in the title, which is wrong and should be in the artist box.
Please take into account this is not true, the usage is totally correct per the current Ranking Criteria:

Current RC wrote:

For remixes, covers, or performances, the original artist may be used in the artist field, as long as the title field is modified to clearly show that the song is not the original version. This marker should be in parentheses and contain the remix/cover artist or the performer as well as a descriptor.
The proposed method here is pretty convoluted (the proposed format being used by two distributors doesn't make it a standard de facto or something that a user without technical knowledge can understand). It also doesn't really fit with how pretty much all markers work in Ranking Criteria, as it would stand out too much for the few usecases it has without providing any extra info compared to the current allowance i quoted above.

Making the performance marker work as an allowance like other cover/remix/performance markers (which also have similar formats) provides the better trade-off of readability vs. information.

For reference and a better background on how we ended up with the current marker format for classical music, please read the recent thread that led to the change: community/forums/topics/1512552?n=1
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pishifat
osu! Paragon
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Joined August 2013
pishifat
going to archive as quenlla's response is pretty exhaustive as to why this should remain as is
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