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ShinRun
How is this man not banned
igorsprite
just to clarify, i didn't ask for a replacement just to gain an advantage, i wasn't enjoying the environment and some players said that they didn't want to play with me
Topic Starter
Sakura

ShinRun wrote:

Yo Sakura you gonna host another game?
I wouldnt mind, but other than an Open I dont have anything designed atm.
Although the activity in this game left much to be desired and as a mod, it's kind of annoying to put care into a setup only for people to singup and barely play.
z0z
well uh

that was an experience
pentaqola
i am so sorry for the people that trusted me on this one, especially penguin. but yeah, igor sent me to do this while i was on break
Topic Starter
Sakura

This threw me for a loop i guess.
z0z
i was thinking that it's possible that i can suspect notraffi for his voting "mistake" or it's him just not knowing the game
Topic Starter
Sakura
It's probably him not reading votes
pentaqola
honestly, im surprised no one noticed that julian revealed me and him to be mafia in an earlier post

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

pentaqola can't be an only remaining mafia member theoretically since there are two left
z0z
oh
z0z

pentaqola wrote:

honestly, im surprised no one noticed that julian revealed me and him to be mafia in an earlier post

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

pentaqola can't be an only remaining mafia member theoretically since there are two left
we kinda suspected you to be more town than mafia
pentaqola
deadass this could have killed the team
Topic Starter
Sakura
penta even in one post implied there was a chance she couldnt be town.
igorsprite

pentaqola wrote:

i am so sorry for the people that trusted me on this one, especially penguin. but yeah, igor sent me to do this while i was on break
thank you so much for accepting this mission <3
pentaqola
also, yeah i agree that replacing someone out of strategy should be bannable. i did have fun playing as mafia, but being interrupted by my break wasn't great
z0z
silly idea, what if mafia also had hostages to keep alive?

like the hostages don't know they're hostage but the mafia has to keep them alive
pentaqola

igorsprite wrote:

pentaqola wrote:

i am so sorry for the people that trusted me on this one, especially penguin. but yeah, igor sent me to do this while i was on break
thank you so much for accepting this mission <3
i mean you are the one that asked me late at night at my place so i was just being a sleepy ass
Topic Starter
Sakura

z0z wrote:

silly idea, what if mafia also had hostages to keep alive?

like the hostages don't know they're hostage but the mafia has to keep them alive
That's probably an interesting concept for a theme. But probably not for a normal game.
igorsprite

Sakura wrote:

This threw me for a loop i guess.
i wasn't in the mood to play anymore, but when you said replacement, the idea of ask pentaqola to replace me appeared
Topic Starter
Sakura
I mean I had the idea of a Bastard game with moderator lies on Role PM, but i'm not sure how fun would that be.
Julian_Kaiser

pentaqola wrote:

honestly, im surprised no one noticed that julian revealed me and him to be mafia in an earlier post

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

pentaqola can't be an only remaining mafia member theoretically since there are two left
quote the entire post, silly.

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

I have already stated my two reasons why.

I initially suspected him from the beginning, however if it turns out to not be him, then I have a hunch that some of the "whitelisted" folks(i.e. NotRaffi, bambinex, Penguin) may include some mafia members since pentaqola can't be an only remaining mafia member theoretically since there are two left, if I'm not wrong.
Forgive me for my lack of cooperation, there barely seems anything I could make out to discuss rn.

Vote: z0z

Julian_Kaiser wrote:

By *whitelisted, I meant individuals outside the suspicion range of sam
fpp
so yeah, I'm deadass.
"Yeah, this Julian guy is so much of a bastard, he does not literally give a thought into what he posts, and does not contemplate much on the value of information or integrity of what a minor section in his post could have lead to, he won entirely based on luck, what a scum"

o
Outside of Sam, you and I were the only one who were blacklisted to be scum material, so if there was anyone to question about that section, I would have stated that

Since Sam was the previous poster to list the suspects.
Julian_Kaiser

Sakura wrote:

Penguin Vanilla Townie has been killed Night 5

bambinex 7-Shot Jailkeeper has been endgamed

samX500 Vanilla Townie has been endgamed

The mafia of Asian Warlord, pentaqola and Julian_Kaiser win the game!
pogchamp moment
samX500
there is a lot for me to learn here. I played pretty bad this game and made myself a big suspicion.

Even if notRaffi had been scum, I was still scared of being voted out next day and loosing town the game.
Julian_Kaiser
Also,
I'll repeat this again.

NotRaffi and Penguin、
A deep "Thank you" from my sincerest.

had not it been for you, I would have died that day
samX500
probably the 3 worst players were bambinex, notRaffi and myself.

Bambinex for almost getting modkilled and for ruining notRaffi's chance to prove themselves town and also kill a scum.

NotRaffi for being inconsistent about their ability.

Me for voting for all the wrong people.
Julian_Kaiser

samX500 wrote:

Bambinex for almost getting modkilled and for ruining notRaffi's chance to prove themselves town and also kill a scum.
oh yeah, I forgot to thank Bambinex.

He was the one who actually helped me survive.
Topic Starter
Sakura
I still think there was no harm in NoLiming Day 5 just to confirm NotRaffi.

It was bad enough that bambinex jailed NotRaffi Night 3, but the actions did come to the conclusion that NotRaffi was roleblocked by bambinex, he was the first to claim that his action was interfered with before bambinex claimed the roleblock.

Even if you believe that this was an elaborate plan for NotRaffi to continue coasting on a vig claim, a NoLim Day 5 gets, at worst, a single kill on bambi on which you can just eliminate NotRaffi and proceed, and at best, a NotRaffi succesful kill on scum with a bambi save on town, which would have turned the game to 4v1 which means you get an extra Mis-Elimination and a confirmed town NotRaffi.
Or the middle scenario in which both a townie and a scum die, but you still trade not actually but actually confirmed town bambi, for a confirmed town NotRaffi.

This was a play where people wanted to be right, instead of optimal play for a win.
rematyar
Julian, thanks for replacing me.
If I didn't ask for replacement, the mafia would lose easily lool
Julian_Kaiser

Rematyar wrote:

Julian, thanks for replacing me.
If I didn't ask for replacement, the mafia would lose easily lool
np, it was the townies who also contributed to the help
Joon Yorigami
bm alert!!!
KeikiEnjoyer
The whole "town losing" thing started when bambi rbd me and yall not voting for Julian, I'm not gonna change my mind
Joon Yorigami
someone's salty :3c
ShinRun
No the whole town losing thing started when you didn’t choose to prove you’re vig when you had three nights to do so
pentaqola

NotRaffi wrote:

The whole "town losing" thing started when bambi rbd me and yall not voting for Julian, I'm not gonna change my mind
you are absolutely correct. in fact there is so much things that has gone wrong in this game for town, from the moment i invited penguin to my neighborhood and him not realizing something is already wrong until the end where raffi just gets voted out with no mercy

mafia did mistakes too, but its mostly my fault since i wanna do well for the team by kinda leading it? i am not good at it tho
ShinRun
Fuck if only I didn’t switch off Penta night one
pentaqola
in fact, penguin and amianki could have easily proven i am scum because of day chat already being available in the neighborhood

if you remove amianki, penguin literally himself could have proven me scum at d2

i have given a lot of red flags from the start, literally said i have the day chat role straightforward in the neighborhood to proven towns, and somehow convinced them its a good thing instead of something to be skeptical about.

check the neighborhood, its actually terrifying how they didn't notice from start to end
pentaqola
day chat is not normal for a neighborhood basically
abraker
man scum sure threw me in for a loop. All your nk's were what I'd expect a really competent team do. Like eliminate everyone who can scum hunt and you are left with braindead town. gg
Amianki
I don't look for things like that and I'm not all that familiar with normal rules anymore regardless

Truth is, town wound up losing because not enough people were willing to put in effort to people the game. This is a big reason I was pushing people to at least create opinions on something, because I simply don't understand the point of playing a social deduction game if you aren't at least going to try to deduce anything.

Despite what a lot of people in mafiascum like to think, being wrong isn't all that bad. I can work with people that are at least putting the effort in, because then at least I can help push them in the right direction. I can't work with people that won't even try, because at a fundamental level, they are the people that wind up having to be removed for town to have a reasonable chance of winning in the late game.
Topic Starter
Sakura

pentaqola wrote:

day chat is not normal for a neighborhood basically
It can be default as long as it's announced, since it wasnt announced then only via Encryptor daychat exists.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Btw, you know a fun fact?
Newbie scum tend to replace more often than Newbie town.

You could have effectively killed 2/3 of the mafia by killing the replacements, Yhuan actually got prodded out instead.
pentaqola

Sakura wrote:

pentaqola wrote:

day chat is not normal for a neighborhood basically
It can be default as long as it's announced, since it wasnt announced then only via Encryptor daychat exists.
thats kind of the thing. i dont know why they didn't notice that at all
Topic Starter
Sakura
Encryptor isnt a guaranteed scum role, town neighbor encryptors exist.
It's more of an issue if an Encryptor gets Neighborized than if an Encryptor is a Neighborizer.
pentaqola

Sakura wrote:

Encryptor isnt a guaranteed scum role, town neighbor encryptors exist.
It's more of an issue if an Encryptor gets Neighborized than if an Encryptor is a Neighborizer.
finally, i have gained knowleg

seriously tho, i am glad to know why thats the case. better off learning something outta this than nothing
rematyar

Sakura wrote:

Btw, you know a fun fact?
Newbie scum tend to replace more often than Newbie town.

You could have effectively killed 2/3 of the mafia by killing the replacements, Yhuan actually got prodded out instead.
but i asked for replacement because i have an exam ):
igorsprite

Rematyar wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Btw, you know a fun fact?
Newbie scum tend to replace more often than Newbie town.

You could have effectively killed 2/3 of the mafia by killing the replacements, Yhuan actually got prodded out instead.
but i asked for replacement because i have an exam ):
lol
Topic Starter
Sakura
V/LA exists
Julian_Kaiser

Rematyar wrote:

Sakura wrote:

Btw, you know a fun fact?
Newbie scum tend to replace more often than Newbie town.

You could have effectively killed 2/3 of the mafia by killing the replacements, Yhuan actually got prodded out instead.
but i asked for replacement because i have an exam ):
After replacing you,
I was new to this entire mafia thing and almost asked for another replacement since I had a fever.

I barely made any posts and almost gave up during the day of the replacement, since I couldn't deal with being pressurized in a new game, or being forced to cooperate in one.
Julian_Kaiser

abraker wrote:

man scum sure threw me in for a loop. All your nk's were what I'd expect a really competent team do. Like eliminate everyone who can scum hunt and you are left with braindead town. gg
Since I'm braindead myself, I'd rather deal with braindead people. Was cool to see the tables suddenly turn.
rematyar

Sakura wrote:

V/LA exists
what's that
Topic Starter
Sakura
It's short for Vacation / Limited Access.
It means you wont be available for some days due to IRL stuff, and you wont receive prods during that duration, if me (the mod) accepts it. I generally accept them unless they are too long.
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