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Zektbach - Turii ~Panta Rhei~

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fartownik
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 5 kwietnia 2011 at 14:02:20

Artist: Zektbach
Title: Turii ~Panta Rhei~
Source: beatmania IIDX
Tags: iidx16 empress
BPM: 148
Filesize: 14173kb
Play Time: 02:03
Difficulties Available:
  1. Another (5 stars, 333 notes)
  2. Beginner (3,04 stars, 138 notes)
  3. Hyper (4,74 stars, 227 notes)
Download: Zektbach - Turii ~Panta Rhei~
Download: Zektbach - Turii ~Panta Rhei~ (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Thanks soulfear for the video.
tsuka
I'm the first! :D
soulfear
Overall
OFFSET+8
Disable countdown,it's no need
delete .osb file then full submission
Hyper:
01:07:156 (5) - delete?
then add notes at 01:07:156 and 01:07:358 01:07:460 01:07:561 make these triple
like
01:08:980 (5) - short this to 01:09:284
01:09:588 (1) - make this begin at 01:09:385 also 01:09:994 (2) - - make this begin at 01:09:791
01:10:196 add note
01:11:615 (4,1) - space
Another:
some green lines didn't right snap,please recheck
00:06:943 (1,2,3,4) - space
00:07:652 (5,6,7,8,9) - space
00:10:186 (1,2,3,4) - space
00:10:896 (5,6,7,8,9) - space

here's VIDEO,VIDEO offset -1346
http://u.115.com/file/f3ec5946be
click this then download

If you can't download,tell me

Kurowolfe
Hi!
I've done modding your Beginner map. Here goes:
kurohacker's mod (^^)
[General]
The BG looks nice, but it's a bit risque. Consider changing it with a more 'safer' one?
Also, the BG size is not standard, causing it to be cropped on the top and bottom in gameplay (or maybe that's just my resolution settings).

[Beginner]
The spacing between notes are not standard. Is this intentional?
It might be better if you rename this one Normal, coz it doesn't feel like a Beginner. If you choose to do so, AP, OD and HP+2.

0:20:129 [spinner]
You might want to add a finish hitsound at the end. It'll fit the song nicely.

0:26:615 [spinner]
Same as above.

1:00:466 [4]
Maybe new combo here?

1:01:277 [1]
Delete new combo and let it be [6].

1:02:088 [2]
New combo here.

1:04:521 [1]
Maybe you can delete new combo and let it be [5].

1:04:926 [2]
Maybe new singular combo here?

1:08:169 [4]
This one kinda tough for beginners, maybe let it be a circle instead?

1:14:656 [5]
Same as above.

1:16:277 [2]
Same as above.

1:24:791 [1]
Maybe you can stack this with the rest, so that it'll be uniform. And delete new combo and let it be [5] instead.

1:41:007 [4]
New combo here.

1:53:980 [1]
Better if you flip this horizontally.

1:59:656 [3]
Move to the right by one grid (Grid settings 3).

I really like this song's level of epicness and your map lays quite nice, so here's a star for you~
All the best with your maps! :)
ZLOdeuka-
hello~

[General]

BG: should be the size of 800x600 or 1024x768?

2 osb. files ~ delete

Beginner 3.2 star ~ There must be no more than 3 stars,right ?

[Beginner]

Slider Tick rate = 2?

00:07:764 (2,3) - it is not too far away?

00:17:494 (2,3) - I think they are farther apart than 2 1

00:19:521 (4) - maybe ?

00:26:412 (1) - delete ~ 00:26:615 (1) - move here 00:26:412

00:35:737 (4) - better to place to place second note

01:03:710 (4) - new combo

01:04:521 (1) - delete new combo

01:04:521 (2,3) - spacing

01:21:548 (5) - new combo

01:21:953 (2) - delete new combo

02:00:061 (1) - ^

02:00:466 (2) - new combo

02:03:710 (1) - delete 02:03:912 (1) - move here 02:03:710

[Hyper]

00:19:926 (1) - delete and 00:20:129 (1) - move here 00:19:926

00:26:412 (1) - delete and 00:26:615 (1) - move here 00:26:412

01:45:872 (5) - new combo

[Another]

00:19:926 (1) - delete and 00:20:129 (1) - move here 00:19:926

00:26:412 (1) - delete and 00:26:615 (1) - move here 00:26:412

Nice :]

Star~
Sallad4ever
Hi fartownik

[General]
- hmmm I think the offset should be 450
- the countdown doesn't sound fit with the music so I suggest to disable it
- also disable the letterbox during break as it'll cover half of the girl's face in the BG

[Beginner]
00:26:412 (1) - decrease the hitsound for this circle to around 30% then add finish at it
01:08:169 (4) - hmm it's better if you shorten by 1/4 beat, ending this slider in 1/4 is rather surprising
01:14:656 (5) - ^
01:50:534 (T) - imo 0.5 is kinda extreme, as the SV is slow enough. Well I'll suggest 0.65 or 0.7 but this probably more like my personal taste :P

[Hyper]
rise AR by 2 ticks please :cry:
00:26:412 (1) - same as the beginner
00:43:237 (2) - please put this and 00:44:048 (5) in the y-axis so it'll perfectly stack
01:16:885 (1) - it's not that unexpected, but the repeat is kinda hidden by the scoreburst
01:56:699 (4) - imo this jump is kinda far well prolly because it's on 1/4 beat

[Another]
00:26:412 (1) - Same as above
01:23:575 (2,3) - I don't really like these kick slider, it making me kinda rush after I have to hold the previous slider repeat. Maybe use circle stream instead?
01:56:699 (4) - same as Hyper

Nice map, epic song and lovely streams, I bet this would get to osu! stream compilation if it's already ranked before
STAR
Topic Starter
fartownik

soulfear wrote:

Overall
OFFSET+8 - Sounds off, no.
Disable countdown,it's no need Done.
delete .osb file then full submission Stop doing this. It's a 0,2kb file that doesn't do anything bad.
Hyper:
01:07:156 (5) - delete?
then add notes at 01:07:156 and 01:07:358 01:07:460 01:07:561 make these triple
like[attachment=1:b5e19]1.jpg[/attachment:b5e19]
01:08:980 (5) - short this to 01:09:284
01:09:588 (1) - make this begin at 01:09:385 also 01:09:994 (2) - - make this begin at 01:09:791
01:10:196 add note
01:11:615 (4,1) - space Made some changes in the whole part.
Another:
some green lines didn't right snap,please recheck
00:06:943 (1,2,3,4) - space
00:07:652 (5,6,7,8,9) - space
00:10:186 (1,2,3,4) - space
00:10:896 (5,6,7,8,9) - space
Didn't use anything of this, mostly because it's pretty useless advice.

here's VIDEO,VIDEO offset -1346
http://u.115.com/file/f3ec5946be
click this then download
[attachment=0:b5e19]2.jpg[/attachment:b5e19]
Thanks! Really nice BGA.
If you can't download,tell me
Thanks for your mod, soulfear.

kurohacker wrote:

Hi!
I've done modding your Beginner map. Here goes...
Thanks for your mod, kurohacker, used some of your advices.

ZLOdeuka wrote:

hello~

[General]

BG: should be the size of 800x600 or 1024x768? Will do.

2 osb. files ~ delete

Beginner 3.2 star ~ There must be no more than 3 stars,right ? First of all - it's not 3,2, but 3,02, second thing - the star rating gone so high because of the amount of sliders in the diff, which is not very hard.

[Beginner]

Slider Tick rate = 2? No needed.

00:07:764 (2,3) - it is not too far away?

00:17:494 (2,3) - I think they are farther apart than 2 1

00:19:521 (4) - maybe ?

00:26:412 (1) - delete ~ 00:26:615 (1) - move here 00:26:412

00:35:737 (4) - better to place to place second note

01:03:710 (4) - new combo

01:04:521 (1) - delete new combo

01:04:521 (2,3) - spacing

01:21:548 (5) - new combo

01:21:953 (2) - delete new combo

02:00:061 (1) - ^

02:00:466 (2) - new combo

02:03:710 (1) - delete 02:03:912 (1) - move here 02:03:710

Done some of this.

[Hyper]

00:19:926 (1) - delete and 00:20:129 (1) - move here 00:19:926 - Nope.

00:26:412 (1) - delete and 00:26:615 (1) - move here 00:26:412 - Nope.

01:45:872 (5) - new combo - Fixed.

[Another]

00:19:926 (1) - delete and 00:20:129 (1) - move here 00:19:926 - Nope.

00:26:412 (1) - delete and 00:26:615 (1) - move here 00:26:412 - Nope.

Nice :]

Star~
Thanks for your mod, ZLOdeuka.

Sallad4ever wrote:

Hi fartownik

[General]
- hmmm I think the offset should be 450 - No, sounds off.
- the countdown doesn't sound fit with the music so I suggest to disable it - Done.
- also disable the letterbox during break as it'll cover half of the girl's face in the BG - Done.

[Beginner]
00:26:412 (1) - decrease the hitsound for this circle to around 30% then add finish at it - Done.
01:08:169 (4) - hmm it's better if you shorten by 1/4 beat, ending this slider in 1/4 is rather surprising - Done in another way.
01:14:656 (5) - ^ - ^
01:50:534 (T) - imo 0.5 is kinda extreme, as the SV is slow enough. Well I'll suggest 0.65 or 0.7 but this probably more like my personal taste :P - Will leave it as it is now.

[Hyper]
rise AR by 2 ticks please :cry: - 1 ticked :)
00:26:412 (1) - same as the beginner - Done.
00:43:237 (2) - please put this and 00:44:04 8 (5) in the y-axis so it'll perfectly stack - Done.
01:16:885 (1) - it's not that unexpected, but the repeat is kinda hidden by the scoreburst - It's playable.
01:56:699 (4) - imo this jump is kinda far well prolly because it's on 1/4 beat - Will leave it as it is now.

[Another]
00:26:412 (1) - Same as above - Done.
01:23:575 (2,3) - I don't really like these kick slider, it making me kinda rush after I have to hold the previous slider repeat. Maybe use circle stream instead? - Will leave it as it is now.
01:56:699 (4) - same as Hyper - Will leave it as it is now.

Nice map, epic song and lovely streams, I bet this would get to osu! stream compilation if it's already ranked before - Thanks :)
STAR
Thanks for your mod, Sallad4ever.
Magicphoenix
lalala ~~
rEdo
[Beginner]
0:11:817 (3,4) - those notes are kinda hidden by previous sliders. how about placing them like this?
2:03:911 (1) - silence it's end?

[Hyper]
(the whole beginning part) - those 1/3's are a little bit offsync.
1:56:715 (4) - is this slider really following the music? it's ending feels kinda offsync
2:02:695 (1) - delete new combo
2:03:911 (1) - silence it's end?

[Another]
1:56:715 (4) - is this slider really following the music? it's ending feels kinda offsync
2:02:695 (1) - delete new combo

[General]
i don't really like how you place new combos, i'd like you to take a look at my suggestions about them and try them, should look a lot better.
resize the bg to 4:3 ratio.

maybe i'll try to flashlight this soon ;d
Topic Starter
fartownik

rEdo wrote:

[Beginner]
0:11:817 (3,4) - those notes are kinda hidden by previous sliders. how about placing them like this? - I think it's okay. Will leave it as it is now.
2:03:911 (1) - silence it's end? - I think it's okay. Will leave it as it is now.

[Hyper]
(the whole beginning part) - those 1/3's are a little bit offsync. - Yes, done.
1:56:715 (4) - is this slider really following the music? it's ending feels kinda offsync - Yes, it does o.o Why am I only one who hears this part in the song.
2:02:695 (1) - delete new combo - Yes, done.
2:03:911 (1) - silence it's end? - I think it's okay. Will leave it as it is now.

[Another]
1:56:715 (4) - is this slider really following the music? it's ending feels kinda offsync - ^
2:02:695 (1) - delete new combo - Yes, done.

[General]
i don't really like how you place new combos, i'd like you to take a look at my suggestions about them and try them, should look a lot better. - Done in my own way.
resize the bg to 4:3 ratio.

maybe i'll try to flashlight this soon ;d
Thanks for your mod, rEdo.
Yomeiro
Hello :3

Beginner

00:11:817 (3) - Maybe move this one grid to the right? o.o
00:17:493 (2) - Uhm maybe 3 grids down but I think it's ok as it is....

Dunno.... didn't really find anything else here o.o
Hyper and Another seem fine to me too....

Aww well just take this star xx
Topic Starter
fartownik

Yomeiro wrote:

Hello :3

Beginner

00:11:817 (3) - Maybe move this one grid to the right? o.o - Sorry, it looks okay for me.
00:17:493 (2) - Uhm maybe 3 grids down but I think it's ok as it is.... - This too.

Dunno.... didn't really find anything else here o.o
Hyper and Another seem fine to me too....

Aww well just take this star xx
Thanks for trying, maybe next time ;d
ZLOdeuka-
You have not changed the size of BG :p
Shiro
Please reply to this mod saying what you didn't fix (and what you did) and why.
Also, if you have any question, feel free to ask me in-game :)

General
I got offset-10...

Beginner
00:11:006 (2,3,4) - Re-space them perfectly ? It shouldn't be too hard by moving (3).
00:16:682 (1,2,3,4) - I understand why (1) and (2) are spaced this way but is there a way to space them correctly ? ;_;
01:43:033 (3) - Fix its placement so that the spacing is more regular ?
00:47:087 (3,4) - This kind of placement might be a bit confusing, because it might lead to think (3) has 2 repeats and might make the timing hard to follow.
01:08:574 (1) - This slider's repeat is hidden by the hitburst.

Hyper
The difficulty gap is way too hard. So is the beginning; it would be better to start this diff at least a bit easier, seeing it's supposed to be a Hard.
01:16:884 (1) - The slider's repeat is hidden by a previous slider and its hitburst.

Another
Hm... Nothing to say. Streams too hard :(
Topic Starter
fartownik

Odaril wrote:

Please reply to this mod saying what you didn't fix (and what you did) and why.
Also, if you have any question, feel free to ask me in-game :)

General
I got offset-10... - Sounds fine. Fixed.

Beginner
00:11:006 (2,3,4) - Re-space them perfectly ? It shouldn't be too hard by moving (3). - Done.
00:16:682 (1,2,3,4) - I understand why (1) and (2) are spaced this way but is there a way to space them correctly ? ;_; - I guess newbies will catch a 2 grids spacing change, so it's not needed.
01:43:033 (3) - Fix its placement so that the spacing is more regular ? - Done.
00:47:087 (3,4) - This kind of placement might be a bit confusing, because it might lead to think (3) has 2 repeats and might make the timing hard to follow. - Done.
01:08:574 (1) - This slider's repeat is hidden by the hitburst. - Hm, nope, it's not. For first - this is not a hitburst, but a vanishing slider. For second - it has vanished almost in 100%, so it can be normally noticed.

Hyper
The difficulty gap is way too hard. So is the beginning; it would be better to start this diff at least a bit easier, seeing it's supposed to be a Hard. - Okay, it should be easy enough now.
01:16:884 (1) - The slider's repeat is hidden by a previous slider and its hitburst. - Done.

Another
Hm... Nothing to say. Streams too hard :(
Thanks a lot Odaril!
Verdisphena
Can make a taiko diff?
i love this song :D
Topic Starter
fartownik

Verdisphena wrote:

Can make a taiko diff?
i love this song :D
sure
Verdisphena
kanpakyin
Taiko diff overmap :o

also the stream is not fit the music too much.

wmfchris wrote:

Taiko diffs aren't made to be hard with many random and insane stuffs. They are made to fit the music. Please respect this
so..what are you doing? :|
KanaRin

kanpakyin wrote:

Taiko diff overmap :o

also the stream is not fit the music too much.

wmfchris wrote:

Taiko diffs aren't made to be hard with many random and insane stuffs. They are made to fit the music. Please respect this
so..what are you doing? :|
Sorry but i agree with Kanpakyin

Anyway. Star >w<
Fight~
Verdisphena
Delete the diff and ok
yeahyeahyeahhh
General:
- Source: beatmania IIDX
- Tags: iidx16 empress
- Offset: -10MS

These are just suggestions

Beginner:
- 01:21:131 (5,1) - IMO kinda hard to read with low AR, i keep rushing it.. maybe don't stack?
- 01:24:374 (5,1) - ^

Another:
- 00:32:888 (1) - Start the stream here? I think sounds better x.X
- 00:35:726 (5) - ^
- 01:18:293 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is kinda hard to read, everything looks really mushed together, maybe make it a bit nicer? >.<


OK call me back later, maybe try to see if some others can find stuff, but this all I see.
Topic Starter
fartownik

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

General:
- Source: beatmania IIDX - done
- Tags: iidx16 empress - done
- Offset: -10MS - sounds a bit too fast, mine sounds better to me

These are just suggestions

Beginner:
- 01:21:131 (5,1) - IMO kinda hard to read with low AR, i keep rushing it.. maybe don't stack? - done
- 01:24:374 (5,1) - ^ - done

Another:
- 00:32:888 (1) - Start the stream here? I think sounds better x.X - done
- 00:35:726 (5) - ^ - done
- 01:18:293 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is kinda hard to read, everything looks really mushed together, maybe make it a bit nicer? >.< - Looks and plays fine to me.


OK call me back later, maybe try to see if some others can find stuff, but this all I see.
Thanks for your mod yyy 8-)

edit: resized bg to 800x600
yeahyeahyeahhh
Just beatmania IIDX in source please don't need series number in the same fashion as Touhou maps jsut need Touhou and not Touhou 10 ETC, I'll bubble after this.
Topic Starter
fartownik

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Just beatmania IIDX in source please don't need series number in the same fashion as Touhou maps jsut need Touhou and not Touhou 10 ETC, I'll bubble after this.
Gah, my bad. I accidentally mixed the source with tags.
Fixed.
yeahyeahyeahhh
then bubble
Mogsy
Beginner:
Wow, this is a fun lower-level difficulty. Very nice work.

Hyper:
No real problems with this one, IMO. Some patterns seemed confusing in the editor, but they're very natural and readable once you actually play the map.

Another:
Same deal as Hyper; patterns don't seem readable if you only look at them from an editor perspective, but they flow very naturally in the map itself when playing. This is quite tough for my skill level/lack of skill, but I could still easily read it.

Another thing I should commend you on is the hitsounds. Very, very well done.

I see no reason to not rank this map! Great job!
Topic Starter
fartownik

Mogsworth wrote:

Beginner:
Wow, this is a fun lower-level difficulty. Very nice work.

Hyper:
No real problems with this one, IMO. Some patterns seemed confusing in the editor, but they're very natural and readable once you actually play the map.

Another:
Same deal as Hyper; patterns don't seem readable if you only look at them from an editor perspective, but they flow very naturally in the map itself when playing. This is quite tough for my skill level/lack of skill, but I could still easily read it.

Another thing I should commend you on is the hitsounds. Very, very well done.

I see no reason to not rank this map! Great job!
Thanks a lot! :)
Colin Hou
haha glad to see someone remapped this song :D
Kurowolfe
Yay, it's ranked! Gratz~
*plays song while ignoring study for test for a while
Xgor
Ahh why does mappers still do stuff like that even with the custom slider speed addition :(

You could at least have set the tick rate to 2 here :|
NatsumeRin
Great Map!
Sallad4ever
oh it's finally ranked Love the streams here :D

congratz~

Xgor wrote:

Ahh why does mappers still do stuff like that even with the custom slider speed addition :(
ouch I missed that :cry:
it maybe not fair but a couple of play will make it easier to anticipate
Avedas
Love Zektbach. Very nice map.
rEdo

rEdo wrote:

maybe i'll try to flashlight this soon ;d


hi
Topic Starter
fartownik

Xgor wrote:

Ahh why does mappers still do stuff like that even with the custom slider speed addition :(

You could at least have set the tick rate to 2 here :|
there's a new combo (:

rEdo wrote:

rEdo wrote:

maybe i'll try to flashlight this soon ;d


hi
nice

Thanks for comments :D
Magicphoenix

rEdo wrote:

rEdo wrote:

maybe i'll try to flashlight this soon ;d


hi
FFFFFFFFFFFF-
Mogsy

Xgor wrote:

Ahh why does mappers still do stuff like that even with the custom slider speed addition :(

You could at least have set the tick rate to 2 here :|
Personally, I thought the new combo change was enough to anticipate it, and it still flowed well. ' 3 '
Garven
[Hyper/Another]
01:56:705 (4) - Gaaaah, no wonder this note kept messing me up: snap to 1/6 at 01:56:672 (not that it matters anymore, heh)
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