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James
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James
No beforu maps = no maps with (intentional) jumps for the whole history of osu.
no jumps = no mouse control
no mouse control = craptastic player

just FYI, did not really care about this thread. but i gotten better after mapping/testing/playing these maps.



and why people are taking this seriously? its already obvious on page 1
Kennjin
16 posts
Joined July 2009
Kennjin
I always thought new players should start with easy songs first and than going for the hard ones.......
But i´ll give it a try because u learn more from failing than from winning, am i right ;) :?:
Ivalset
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Lucidity wrote:

Put a disclaimer in or something

Ivalset wrote:

Are you terribad at osu? Mousing skill not fast enough? Trouble with triplets? Etna Sliders? Annoying spacing? Well, we've got the solution for you. Known to the masses as the "BeForU pack 1", we present to you...James Training.

Surgeon General's Warning: Not recommended to newcomers/people below rank #2000 and Lucidity, honestly.
I...

I don't know what else to do. Flashing lights maybe? I don't know if I can do that. I'll come up with something though.
RemmyX25
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Ivalset wrote:

I...

I don't know what else to do. Flashing lights maybe? I don't know if I can do that. I'll come up with something though.
I'm pretty sure you can with a bit of hax.
Lucidity
132 posts
Joined December 2008
Lucidity

Ivalset wrote:

Lucidity wrote:

Put a disclaimer in or something

Ivalset wrote:

Are you terribad at osu? Mousing skill not fast enough? Trouble with triplets? Etna Sliders? Annoying spacing? Well, we've got the solution for you. Known to the masses as the "BeForU pack 1", we present to you...James Training.

Surgeon General's Warning: Not recommended to newcomers/people below rank #2000 and Lucidity, honestly.
I...

I don't know what else to do. Flashing lights maybe? I don't know if I can do that. I'll come up with something though.
I didn't mean a difficulty warning...People don't seem to realise that the OP was made in jest.

People who take this thread seriously should just know that the maps don't contain magical properties :P It sounds like some people feel obligated to play these maps in order to improve instead of playing other maps they might enjoy more :P Thing is, the community has grown a lot, and 90% of the people who read this thread now don't read it in context ;p

btw, I love (most of) your maps James :P But what was revolutionary a year ago isn't anymore :P
Ivalset
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Lucidity
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Lucidity
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Jinxy
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Joined February 2009
Jinxy
I demand prefer if the second warning was removed.

Lucidity wrote:

People don't seem to realise that the OP was made in jest.
This thread looks like its made in jest, but it isn't. Just like how you looked like a jester in BM1 and turned out townie.

James Training may not be the only training programme anymore, but it has worked, and has a higher rate of effectiveness than any other training. (Provided you are not a noob.)

People should read the huge red "Below #2000" on the 1st post. If not, they deserve getting owned.

Maybe the thread could ask you to play other maps in red text, and come back when you are #2300>.

I refuse to see the path to glory ruined.
Zekira
9,233 posts
Joined September 2008
Zekira
I didn't even finish JT but I can pretty much say I've gotten good. Actually, the only thing I took seriously was Love Shine and there I go off to raise my rank until 800 (now dropping back to 900s...)
Azure_Kite
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Azure_Kite
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Ephemeral
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Ephemeral
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
Nachy
807 posts
Joined April 2009
Nachy
The pain is just a sign saying it's working.
Ivalset
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Ivalset

Ephemeral wrote:

Before James training, I was rank #2300 and was unable to complete triplet streams without furious rage.

Now, look at the difference!

I'm still rank #2300~ except my wrist is really goddamn sore and I don't feel like playing osu for a week because of it. ;_;
Obviously you failed at James Training.
Nachy
807 posts
Joined April 2009
Nachy

Ivalset wrote:

Ephemeral wrote:

Before James training, I was rank #2300 and was unable to complete triplet streams without furious rage.

Now, look at the difference!

I'm still rank #2300~ except my wrist is really goddamn sore and I don't feel like playing osu for a week because of it. ;_;
Obviously you failed at James Training.

JamesTraining wrote:

each failure is a stitch of progress. Soon you'll be passing that map
?
Zekira
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Zekira
Nacho WINS!
Wojjan
806 posts
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Wojjan
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
LavendarChocolate
3 posts
Joined November 2009
LavendarChocolate
:? I am so bored. I just play every song with no fail my eyes&memory is getting better though ;) accuracy is another story :cry: :?
Exidus
4 posts
Joined October 2009
Exidus
Ouch, these maps are made for pain...Best I could get for the moment is a B on Red Rocket....Try some more later! :D
Jeffro
680 posts
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Jeffro
Now we need a continueing James training. Those maps are too easy when you're used to it. I want to do approved songs good and stuff :)
Gabi
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Gabi
here is a tip, keep playing the approved maps, you're bound to fc one of them after a thousand tries, the same way you tried with this training pack

then again it wouldn't hurt with some new james maps
James
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James
i should close this crap. haha


dam u ivalset XD
Ivalset
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Ivalset
I'm actually surprised it's still around and that people still use this.

You should make another set of ridiculous beatmaps James. Next time I won't tag your name onto it, hahaha.
Ephemeral
Inland Empire
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Ephemeral
It is kind of stickied.

People sort of don't have the choice whether they'd like to forget about it or not.

8-)
Ivalset
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Ivalset
People don't read stickied threads just because they're stickied.

They read this because it has James on it.
James
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James

Ivalset wrote:

I'm actually surprised it's still around and that people still use this.

You should make another set of ridiculous beatmaps James. Next time I won't tag your name onto it, hahaha.
i cant even map properly anymore... :(
varq
104 posts
Joined February 2008
varq
James Training Part 2 = Gojou Kai?
aston_old
aston_old
yay, 23 misses to 11 misses within 12 minutes :>
storm704
78 posts
Joined October 2009
storm704
James Training: My Road to Success

I have been playing OSU for 4 months now. During my second month of playing OSU! I have realized how much i sucked and decided to hit the forums in search of answers of how to become a Pro OSU! player. During that time i had found this forum and learned that James Training will help me achieve my dream of becoming a Pro OSU! player.

Over the past 2 months I've strived for greatness but my time with James Training wasn't pleasant. I cannot say how many times i have failed the songs and how many times i had a raged over those ninja spinners that always killed me!!! At one time I even thought of jumping out the window to end all of the pain and suffering. But i endured and thought of the future when i would actual be Pro OSU! player who could beat these songs.

2 weeks ago i had a breakthrough and learned the secret of OSU!! and had beaten the first song on the list.

The road had been difficult and treacherous, but breathtakingly beautiful and enlightening as well. Now i must say that i have reached the point where i can B rank the songs on the list, and only after 2 months of arduous training program that i can say i have reached the rank of 1287.

Now I must say THANK YOU!! James Training for helping me become a great OSU! player.



Also I must Thank my new mouse Razer Death Adder (that I've gotten 2 weeks ago) for helping me achieve my greatness.
To become a great OSU! player you must buy yourself a great gaming mouse or tablet.
Shinde
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Shinde
These stories of success bring a tear to my eye. ;_;
Jinxy
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Jinxy
I remember when I started osu and I showed James Training to my friend saying "This is completely crazy"
Now I show him my A on the map and he goes "You are completely crazy"
bmin11
5,438 posts
Joined October 2008
bmin11
Now I hear "shame on you" when I can't FC the map in single shot ._.;;
bah, my friends are just too good
second_wave
194 posts
Joined May 2009
second_wave
Thank you James Training for make me pro :)
blacksymbian
585 posts
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blacksymbian
All hail the james training!

This halped me alot~ :o

and ofcourse.. proudly from the philippines :)
akira07_old
3 posts
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akira07_old
Actually we need another training pack, especially to increase our streaming and jump skill
Ivalset
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Ivalset
You should make one then!!!
Natteke
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Natteke
Play kanbu over 1000 times and you will be pro. I give 100% guarantee
akira07_old
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akira07_old

Ivalset wrote:

You should make one then!!!
I would if i can :)
Especially for streaming skill
AOHenry
6 posts
Joined December 2009
AOHenry
I hope you make this into a pop-up. o.o'
Miisael_old
1 post
Joined August 2010
Miisael_old
I hope this works, i want to pwn my schoolmates who spent 3 full days playing osu! when i couldn't.
Now when i multiplay with them im always losing :'(
James Training help plox!
Zatoichi
553 posts
Joined September 2008
Zatoichi
Thank you James Training, for increasing my overall skill after having not playing this game for so long.

Renewed confidence is what I have!
nanda2009
925 posts
Joined October 2009
nanda2009
Another Great Training 4 me :!:
Thanks, James :D
now i can get 1000000 + score ;)
James
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James
i wish i can fix those maps...
Ivalset
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Ivalset
You can! Release James Training v1.1!
KRZY
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KRZY

James wrote:

i wish i can fix those maps...

gogogo
James
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James
no way man! im just going to fix those spinners and such...
Ivalset
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Ivalset
Get them unranked and fix them.

I wonder if people would be upset?
James
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James
peppy will kill me hahahahahaha

scores are not big so i guess people wont get upset xD
blacksymbian
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blacksymbian
^
orz
Rost94
61 posts
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Rost94
ah, so cool songs x3
Scryde_old
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Scryde_old
I just started to play osu! a few days ago when I passed by this thread and saw this course. I tried it and started to feel hopeless after playing just a few minutes of this course but I still ignored the warning persevered to beat a map of James Training. After a day of rigorous training all my hard work payed off when I started to beat a James Training map. (Particularly Red Rocket Rising!) From now on I'll continue with this course and hope to reach ranks like 500 - 2000 in the future!

Thank you so much James for making an awesome course that helped me and other people grow in osu!
Yugure_old
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Yugure_old
Not sure if I should be posting in a thread that's been dead for a few months, but I wanted to mention that this bootcamp amazing training regimen actually works! I started yesterday and died after a few seconds, but after a day of nothing but this, my jumps, timing, and overall ability have increased significantly.

Sure, it's hard, but nothing comes for free. As for myself, I'll be moving onto another map in the training package. Someone save me.
TheVileOne
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TheVileOne
Oh wow James Training xd

The spacing in some of these maps urks me, but I guess that's what you get for 08 maps.
Maxer00
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Maxer00
Finally managed to beat this Deadly,evil,killing,bastardish-much, AWESOME training, I feel the power surging through my finger-veins. I SHALL not recommend this to everyone!!! May the WORLD know THE most twisted,BEST training that there ever was‼ :lol:
-Soba-
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-Soba-
I thought I was going to instantly get cookie level ;_;
Hooves_old
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Hooves_old
At first I thought this was just some trolling attempt. But the songs are actually quite nice, and it does help to practice on them.
-Soba-
374 posts
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-Soba-
When is James training part 2 coming out to make you SS maps like chipscape and banned forever?
aston_old
aston_old

rank 20s on the A rank, all FC'd.
B> new training.
Hika
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Hika
aston, you should SS James Training & FC chipscape already.
OzzyOzrock
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OzzyOzrock
I heard Sally used this...
Backfire
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Backfire

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I heard Sally used this...
Sally didn't need this. Sally had the heart.
-Athena-
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-Athena-

Backfire wrote:

OzzyOzrock wrote:

I heard Sally used this...
Sally didn't need this. Sally had the heart.
LOL after reading the other posts on the forum i finally know what you guys mean
Im gonna try this now, wonder if ill get crushed?
Low
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Low
i'm currently trying this. it appears that with every retry, i begin to play the maps better. :D

hopefully i will show some improvement. :roll:
-Athena-
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-Athena-
i did get crushed... first time i played i died one minute in
decided to go back to my usual songs and take the gradual approach lol
PH30NIX_old
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PH30NIX_old
Okay, downloading... Hope I don't rage-quit all the time xD Wish me luck!
*Edit* 7 minutes later, I quit... D:
HannaComplex
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HannaComplex
haha wow its so intense yet it does work i'm very sure from what i see my scores go up non stop so this is the best thing ever XD im no expert but i am very good at masochistic training habits in gaming so this is really meant for me to do lol love it love it so much, James training FTW! ^^
oh loving you
41 posts
Joined November 2011
oh loving you
I failed all this map with easy and half time..
Cheers to James training
Frizz
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Frizz
You really should try to pass it harder without any mods. Also this really helped me improving my skills back when I was starting to play Hard maps.
rixzeiya
12 posts
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rixzeiya
this really improves me alot.. when I finish the Breakdown bitmap, the other BeforU maps is easy to finish.. then I was able to finish some hard songs thanks to this.
sCam
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sCam
ima try this
thelewa
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thelewa
I don't think playing over 3 year old maps really gets anyone prepared for playing recent maps since the style is completely different
just my opinion though and never tried this thing
oh loving you
41 posts
Joined November 2011
oh loving you
Hah! now i menage to pass one of the songs ( red sky rocket or something )... after 10 days..
techz59
18 posts
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techz59
Wow actually this does helps.. alot :)
sCam
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sCam
Yeah, not very effective, James. Though, all I played was breakdown, and still can't pass it with a S/A. lol, but i can pass some insane maps. bu that's only because every time i go in multi player that's all people play -.-
mm201
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mm201
Break Down is one of the hardest maps iirc. The maps in the pack are of varied difficulty, with some being quite tame. Try changing them up until you can FC all of them.
L e M oN
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L e M oN
judging from the feedback this got, i'd might aswell try it :')
GreenTeaPlox
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GreenTeaPlox
thanks for this! Even though I still can't even do half of break down and chikara without failing, i have improved greatly with other songs and can finally do the hard maps!
California_old_1
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California_old_1
i'll try this when I get better;;; :(
ampzz
ampzz
You see, this whole thing is meant for you to get better, not for when you are good at it.
ztrot
osu! Alumni
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ztrot
not that something this old would help you grow in skill anymore well it might not sure really good test to take
-Athena-
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-Athena-
After some more experience playing I have to say the gradual approach is still the best, other than that try 0108 :D
Low
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Low

ztrot wrote:

not that something this old would help you grow in skill anymore well it might not sure really good test to take
Even though maps today are different than maps when this thread was posted, this "training program" can still help with mouse/tablet precision.
I can say this from personal experience.
amanojakugman
amanojakugman
-.-'
Chozo007
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Chozo007
I'm curious as to if this is even really a good training anymore. I'm in the high 12k ranks, downloaded this song pack today, and within an hour FC/S'd every song in the pack. Maybe the general song style nowadays is far harder? I dunno, because I can pass things like Cirnos Perfect Math Class Insane, U.N. Owen was her insane, and strangeprogram insane and feel like those are substantially harder than these
TheVileOne
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TheVileOne
^ Why do you need training then?

There's a limit to what someone can teach you. There aren't rules to being super pro, because the super pros are gifted. You'll need more than just osu to move to the next level.
Kanye West
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Kanye West
Just FC'd all the maps. They're not too bad. Only thing is that in each map, at least one slider has a COMPLETELY retarded shape that just throws off my rhythm, and it's annoying.
NixXSkate
785 posts
Joined February 2011
NixXSkate
Love Shine is the only one i failed to SS :( that spinner stream is too intense...
Ekaru
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Ekaru

Chozo007 wrote:

I'm curious as to if this is even really a good training anymore. I'm in the high 12k ranks, downloaded this song pack today, and within an hour FC/S'd every song in the pack. Maybe the general song style nowadays is far harder? I dunno, because I can pass things like Cirnos Perfect Math Class Insane, U.N. Owen was her insane, and strangeprogram insane and feel like those are substantially harder than these
Back when this was made, the top 50 scores on the highest difficulty on each map did not comprise solely of FCs. In fact, it wasn't anywhere close to that. It actually took quite a while until people started FCing these maps like crazy. Keep in mind that good-quality Insanes didn't start to become a real trend until sometime near the end of 2008, and then continued to grow until the peak of overmapping hell sometime in 2009. Now it's pretty standard for mapsets to have an Insane, compared to back then where two-difficulty mapsets was very common. Maps as a whole haven't gotten significantly harder since 2009, though.

Hooray for being an old fag! Oh, and this thread wasn't completely serious to begin with. It was actually partially a joke. The training worked, of course, but that's more because they were the best "hard" maps back then to practice with than anything to do with these maps being magical.
Ralrak
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Ralrak
The James Training link doesn't work anymore T_T
Wojjan
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Wojjan
2noob2kno
laport
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laport
james training ftw
Bass
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Bass
http://osu.ppy.sh/s/56287 ftw
Tsukasa
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Tsukasa

Chozo007 wrote:

I'm curious as to if this is even really a good training anymore. I'm in the high 12k ranks, downloaded this song pack today, and within an hour FC/S'd every song in the pack. Maybe the general song style nowadays is far harder? I dunno, because I can pass things like Cirnos Perfect Math Class Insane, U.N. Owen was her insane, and strangeprogram insane and feel like those are substantially harder than these
And this is why training is easier than the actual.

How can you even train when you play strangeprogram, U.N., Cirno's, etc.

Better to start off small than get crushed by the weight of these difficulties
Ivalset
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Ivalset
Ah, a final farewell to my dear beloved. I miss you, James.
Kanye West
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Kanye West
james training has fallen from valhalla
TheVileOne
osu! Alumni
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TheVileOne
James Training must be revived!
she_old
she_old
are you serious
Jordan
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Jordan
James Training changed my life <3
Lance
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Lance
RIP in piece ;_;7
enik
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enik
Don't worry guys, we still have Aqo's Training.
Juphie
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Juphie
when I started it was already a bit outdated but it helped me anyway.
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