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Matchbox 20 - Unwell

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Echo
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Friday, 13 February 2009 at 12:38:32 p.m.

Artist: Matchbox 20
Title: Unwell
BPM: 162
Filesize: 5610kb
Play Time: 03:07
Difficulties Available:
  1. Echo's Hard (4.63 stars, 376 notes)
  2. Luigi's Normal (3.08 stars, 199 notes)
Download: Matchbox 20 - Unwell
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Thanks Luigi for the song. My first uploaded English song :P

Turns out I could map the whole thing :)
Last edited by Echo , edited 3 times in total.
LuigiHann
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Here's a normal map. I named the difficulty "Unstable." I suggest you name your hard something like "OCD."

Download: Matchbox 20 - Unwell (Echo) [Unstable].osu
Echo
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Finished hard!
LuigiHann
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Finished normal. Please add this kthxbye

Download: Matchbox 20 - Unwell (Echo) [Normal].osu
Echo
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Uploaded with luigi's.
James
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ok i played both difficulties and timing feels late at the beginning and early 1/2~end of the song. it might be on my end though but i doubt it~

edit: must be me~


NAZI TIME!!
normal:
01:07:61 (3) - intentional hitsound? only at the body of slider? just checking
last chorus is boring already. 2x copy paste :(

hard:
wassup! first slider isnt snapped!
02:28:72 (1,2,3,4,1,1,2,3,4) - ew haha
echo likes star shaped jumps~
Echo
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Fixed mine. I think the body only slider is intentional, but I can't answer for Luigi.
LuigiHann
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This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
LuigiHann
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The beatmap listing page doesn't show the current difficulties. What's up with that?
m980
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Well well well..

Luigi's Normal
02:07:61 (4) - Althought it isn't very major, this slider has a whistle hitsound, while the other two from the other chorus, don't have a whistle hitsound. It isn't much.. But i just had to point this out. (HitSounds) (Not Major)

Echo's Hard
00:40:22 (3) - Spacing? I don't know how your going to do this though, since your aiming for symetritricity. (Spacing) (Not Major)
02:38:53 (2,3,4,5) - Uneven Star. Fix it up. It'll look better. (Spacing) (Not Major)

Yeah. Just a few things that would make this beatmap look better, IMO.

Also, you'll need to reupload. So i'll star this for now.
LuigiHann
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This was resubmitted, so it should download properly now. What's it doing in the graveyard? :evil:
Saturos
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Timing is iffy, but it's probably the best it's going to get without a shit ton of sections, and it's near perfect as is, anyway.

One thing I would like done is to have the countdown removed. Sounds terrible, imo. Otherwise, you can haz bubble afterwards.
foulcoon
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^
Also a couple things seem like they should be snapped to blue ticks, but i'll trust your best judgment on that. Otherwise seems like a great map.

Damn i know this song too well...
Echo
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Disabled offset.

I know that timing is iffy in the verses, and like Saturos said I really don't want to make a million timing sections to fix it :/

However if you feel it really needs fixing then I guess I'll have to do it
Saturos
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I don't really feel it's necessary~

Guess I'll wait to see what others think.
machol30
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I think the mapping and timing are just fine. Though I felt that Normal could have been worked on some, specifically with the sounds. It's mainly in the chorus, I think. Some places I expected to see whistles and claps.
LuigiHann
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Added some more hitsounds. I tend to use whistles very sparingly, but I added some more claps.

Download: Matchbox 20 - Unwell (Echo) [Luigi's Normal].osu
Echo
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Reuploaded.
m980
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Echo
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Too symmetrical/too many triangles i bet.
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19:23 <Larto> : Someone should rank UNwell, I don't want to post a useless post in there
19:23 <foulcoonpawnch> : theres a small group of "women" who don't like rolled
19:23 <SFG> : well im not a guy
19:23 <Ivalsetto> : you might be the best person ever lh
19:23 <LuigiHann> : Larto if you post "I Think This Is Rankable" that won't be useless


I Think This Is Rankable

Okay theoretically I could rank this NOW...


...But I'm frightened of getting deBATted, ahaha.

Not that it's likely that this map has a flaw, I just wanna be careful </3
Cyclone
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ugh... timing.

I can't be 100% certain, but i would have to say -8ish to all offsets, AND adding sections in the area of 00:36:00 to 00:47:00. Since I'm lazy, here you go. I had to move a couple notes as well :(

Download: Matchbox 20 - Unwell (Echo) [Cyclone's Timing].osu

Honestly it still feels off a bit :(

If everybody completely disagrees with me, go ahead and rank it or something.
Rolled
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zzzzz BPM is never .01 or .99.

The offset I got was 579, using a round BPM. The best way to go about doing that is probably to just add an offset at 579, and set all other sections to inherit. Make sure the Move already placed notes in unchecked, the resnap afterwards on a 1/4th scale using the drop down menu.

Hopefully everything will be all good to go then.

Other than iffy timing, nothing is wrong with this and its rankable.
Echo
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Done. Thanks for helping with timing everyone.
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Seibei4211
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Luigi's Normal
01:06:87 (2,3) - So the 2 has whistles on the slider ends and slider track since it's unified, but 3 only has a whistle sound on the slider track which could happen if you un-unified it, then tried selecting the slider track or something. Was this intentional? After seeing that repeat, I guess it was. Congratulations. I have yet to see this.

Echo's (possessive, not contraction) Hard
00:30:75 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This would be symmetrical if you moved the 3 to the top right...and it plays cooler, too.
00:53:91 (1,2,3,1,2,3) - Not symmetrical? What? WHAT?! I wasn't expecting that.
01:20:76 (1) - This is totally not symmetrical. I can't believe you.
01:41:31 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - This unsymmetry unsettles me understandly, uncle.

You would make a mirror cry.

Also, I kinda like -14 more. That 5ms actually made a difference for me. (Dawn now agrees.)

Yes, disappointed I am in you, Echo. Echo, you in? Am I disappointed? Yes.
Echo
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Seibei4211 wrote:

00:30:75 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) - This would be symmetrical if you moved the 3 to the top right...and it plays cooler, too.
Didn't want to change that.

I don't want to change timing until I get one that everyone agrees on.

Fixed a few missing claps in chorus 2 and 3
machol30
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Timing is good now, I believe, but I think there's still something off about the offset. I don't know, it may just be me.

Luigi's Normal:
Good, but I expected at least some claps in the first chorus. Some of the claps in the second and third chorus, however, I felt should have been kicked back a beat, or two. For example, 02:02:06 (7) - Claps sound better on the second and forth repeat of 6 and on 1, whistle on 3 (slider) and clap on 5 (slider). Would like to see more sound combos more like the ones in Hard.

Echo's Hard:
Awesome! I especially liked the sounds. There needs to be more of them in Normal.

/twocents

EDIT: Nevermind. Normal sounds are pretty good, actually. I don't if my ears weren't functioning properly or whatever. And I'm sorry, Luigi. I never meant to offend you; I hope we can put this whole thing behind us?

/me bubbles.
Echo
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offset -14'd
Seibei4211
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I think you're a little tired of this song/map by now, Echo. If the symmetry didn't bother you in my first post, then I guess that's that. One more to go, Luigi.
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